[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [SPAM] Cache aliasing issues using 4K pages.

Subject: Re: [SPAM] Cache aliasing issues using 4K pages.
From: "Luc Perneel" <>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:34:40 +0100
Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ikERvzErXK6hGPyT1z9f1IJ6bRdc/5/pZ5GFpEdpqho=; b=LYNjdhv0f3GvXTrLdlT7o5s72dQJnZ8Xi36hL6ugVNDEtkc12QVq9yOTyZ7MytDi/ZaaAV0U4yo1EhH4ADScvFvUz3yb0No1ZpLH/gkRJpxARAc5Gfa5CRiYpW1eAKAZHpYRuTb3I/dvODIRbbsCH6ekNLdxJtDoycqW4e3HAUA=
Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QWMIjatTGWWB6SBLGRV/m6jI5atoAIN110TZ0uJVv2WrB6qcxAw4KgkRbA9D0F+P2rm+pCKvE4eiaYPxk8fLIGep8t3tbXTAhLxl5DLcqt0zGHO6m1Ro/9oWGiHkCkKbGx5wd/7LdoSLl3iqEibwjgqeK/kXzU02RADyg2VhESY=
In-reply-to: <>
Original-recipient: rfc822;
References: <> <>
It is a real SMP system (you could run linux on it using both cores just like on a dual core x86 desktop).
Never the less, only one of the cores is running linux. the other runs the real-time part.
We use a kernel module and shared memory to communicate from the linux applications to the real-time part on the second core.
Thus the HW is SMP, the software is not...

On Jan 14, 2008 11:34 PM, Markus Gothe <> wrote:
Lemme guess, it's not a dual-core as in SMP but a sub-CPU.
This usually involves that the memory differs, for example does it have a TLB. Which vendor and which core is it? I suppose you use some sort of firmware from the vendor to access the sub-CPU, right?


On 14 Jan 2008, at 21:25, The Engineer wrote:

We are working with a 2.6.12 kernel on a dual-core mips architecture.
In this dual-core system, one core is running the linux kernel and the
other is used for some real-time handling (not directly controlled by
We had different stability issues, which could be pinpointed to be
related with cache aliasing problems.
Cache aliasing happens when the same physical memory can be cached
twice as it is accessed by two different virtual addresses.
Indeed, for the index to select the correct cache line the virtual
address is used. If some bits of the virtual page address are used in
the cache index, aliasing can occur.

As there is no hardware solution in the mips to recover from this
(which would provide some cache coherency, even for one core), the
only intrinsic safe solution is to enlarge the page size, so that
cache indexing is only done by the offset address in the page (thus
the physical part of the address).
Another solution is to flush the cache if a page is being remapped to
an aliased address (but in our case linux does not has control on the
second core, which can cause issues with shared data between both
Currently the second solution is used in the kernel, but we found
different issues with it (for instance: we had to merge more recent
mips kernels, to get a reliable copy-on-write behaviour after

Therefore some questions:
- Are there still some known issues with cache aliasing in the MIPS kernel?
- Are there known issues when using 16KB pages (8KB pages seems not be
possible due to tlb issues).

Thanks in advance,


Mr Markus Gothe
Software Engineer

Phone: +46 (0)13 21 81 20 (ext. 1046)
Fax: +46 (0)13 21 21 15
Mobile: +46 (0)70 348 44 35
Diskettgatan 11, SE-583 35 Linköping, Sweden

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>