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Re: MIPS Kernel size

To: Ralf Baechle <>
Subject: Re: MIPS Kernel size
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:38:18 +0100 (MET)
Cc: Karsten Merker <>, Linux/MIPS Development <>
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 07:43:25PM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote:
> > Depends on what you consider "that small". Kernel size is a large
> > issue for the Cobalt series due to the firmware limits (although
> > Peter Hortons attempts at a Cobalt bootloader will hopefully help in
> > this regard). Embedded stuff and PDAs is another field where 2.6
> > currently seems to pose a problem.
> I really hate that term "embedded" - it's very hard to define.  Anyway,
> there's an increasing amount of so-called embedded systems with several
> gigabytes of memory and even for much smaller system 2.6 is already
> making 2.4 look pale.

Indeed. Today's embedded can easily be larger than desktop/server from only
a few years ago...

Fortunately, system size is still important for some applications. Witness the
existence of a System Size Working Group in the CE Linux Forum. So yes, some
people still care.

> The Cobalt case is special; it's firmware could almost be the definition
> of the term crap ...

Can't you use the firmware to load a second stage booter, which can load larger



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