On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Jun Sun wrote:
> > Before I proceed further I need to get an aswer to the following
> > question: why do we use rtc_set_time() for NTP RTC updates instead of
> > rtc_set_mmss() like most other architectures do? Traditionally Linux only
> > updated minutes and seconds in this context and I don't think we need to
> > do anything more. And setting minutes and seconds only is way, way
> > faster. Which might not matter that much every 11 minutes, except doing
> > things slowly here incurs a disruption in the latency of the timer
> > interrupt, which NTP might not like and the slow calculation of the RTC
> > time causes less precise time being stored in the RTC chip.
> rtc_set_time() is more generic interface as it is also used in other
> places. Boards which easily speed up (i.e., emulate rtc_set_mmss()) by
> doing something like the following:
> if (t-last_time_set < 660 + delta)
> /* do a full rtc set */
> last_time_set = t;
> A lot of boards don't do RTC update, and even when they do they
These should be fixed.
> usually don't have performance issues (such as in vr41xx cases).
> It is not fair to tax every board by requiring a new board interface
Well, rtc_set_time() is only used by the timekeeping code, so I see no
problem with renaming it. And the interface remains the same -- it's a
number of seconds. So if a full update is faster than changing minutes
and seconds only (e.g. the RTC is a monotonic counter -- I know a system
that just counts 10 ms intervals), an implementation is free to do so
(although that enforces UTC to be kept in the RTC; a good thing anyway),
but it shouldn't be required to. And I think the name should be changed
to reflect that.
I you find such a cross-system update tedious -- don't worry. I can do
that. As a favor to platform maintainers I did such stuff in the past and
I can do it again.
> BTW, at least one other arch (PPC) is not using rtc_set_mmss().
Their reasoning being?
> > It's already questionable whether the update should be done at all (this
> > was discussed zillion of times at the NTP group) and it disrupts
> > timekeeping of the DECstation severely, but given the current choice, I'd
> > prefer to make it as lightweight as possible.
> Whether to keep rtc in sync is an option which can be set by a board
It can't. But it should be configurable with a sysctl (but it isn't
> Simply do a
> time_status |= STA_UNSYNC
> in your <board>_setup routine will disable any RTC update.
Well, time_status = STA_UNSYNC initially, but ntpd will reset that.
Which is of course required to become a server.
+ Maciej W. Rozycki, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland +
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