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Re: PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3)

To: Ralf Baechle <>
Subject: Re: PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3)
From: Jay Carlson <>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:10:29 -0500
Cc: Jay Carlson <>, Dominic Sweetman <>, Hiroyuki Machida <>,,
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On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 03:28 AM, Ralf Baechle wrote:

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:16:46AM -0500, Jay Carlson wrote:

Given that I tossed out the SVR4 ABI in search of code density in snow,
I'm probably a little abnormal in these concerns.  But other people on
small platforms may care.

SNOW certainly was a nice invention and the definition of small is
changing.  Are you planning to keep up the support for SNOW?

Yeah, although it's slow going. As usual, "which toolchain" plays a major part in the delay :-)

(Quick background for the list: Because there's such a large code size penalty to PIC/abicalls, I resurrected the bad old Linux/SVR3 statically linked, dynamically loaded libraries, which are linked at absolute locations. Shane Nay took this from a cute demo to a working distribution for the Agenda VR3; Brian Webb helped. Typical code reduction is ~25-40%, eg 391k->272k.)

I think I finally have a working jumptable implementation, which should allow (careful!) upgrades of libraries without triggering app rebuilds. The pain was not actually jumptables themselves; it was getting all exported data in a library shuffled around so it could live at fixed addresses. -fdata-sections let me do most of this with linker scripts. Unfortunately, g++ was still emitting "int foo;" in ".bss", so I had to fix it to generate the proper "".

I created a toolchain builder based on the RH71 SRPMs. About halfway through this, I remembered why I hadn't upgraded from glibc 2.0 to 2.2 before---the library size doubled. So after getting a few huge statically linked executables tested to make sure the toolchain was sound, I backtracked to uclibc and the old Agenda glibc "2.0.7". I have plausible-looking builds of both, but I haven't actually run them on real hardware.....

(Is there any hope of patching glibc 2.2.4 with the sglibc patches? If so, how?)

I started writing a /lib/ to get the library loading code out of the main body of executables.

I'm hoping to have a beta of a full toolchain/library build tool shipped this weekend or next, and from there hook into the community efforts to automate rebuilding the Agenda VR3 from source. I figure X and a pile of C++ fltk apps will expose any lingering bugs in the toolchain and new bugs in the shared library mechanism.

I'd like to be less Agenda-centric. I think this work would benefit the Helio as well as other small platforms. But as you say, the definition of "small" is changing; hopefully in few years, machines will be big enough to support the SVR4 ABI without second thoughts. I don't know; it's possible that the really low end machines will just get cheaper instead of bigger.

Speaking of small, anybody have a Linux box with a CPU with working MIPS16 support? (Other than Vr41xx; I have plenty of those to test on.) I have a small test case I'd like someone to run.


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