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Re: Decstation /150 kernel (cvs) problems

To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <>
Subject: Re: Decstation /150 kernel (cvs) problems
From: Florian Lohoff <>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:36:02 +0100
Cc: "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" <>,,,
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 04:08:47PM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> > >  Huh?  You should be dealing with segments and not sections (as you are
> > > loading and not linking the image) and then only LOADable ones.  I believe
> > 
> > I waded through the sections list copieng all sections which are of
> > type PROGBITS which is basically the same. Also i cleared all NOBITS
>  It's not the same, sorry -- for sections you would need to handle ones
> marked ALLOC in flags.  Of these you need to load ones of type PROGBITS
> and zero-fill ones of type NOBITS.  Others may be discarded.  For Linux
> you may actually skip NOBITS as well, as the head code zero-fills common
> sections itself, but handling them is saner IMO. 

This is mostly what i do - As the ext2 code loads in the whole file
as a chunk i am loading it after the booloader - Then copy it to the
end of the first 8Megs (Which is the minimum memory on a decstation)
and then copy the chunks marked PROGBITS to their final location.

Not optimal but it worked for all the cases where the ELF is ok.

>  Still using segments is the proper way and it's simpler as well. 
> Additionally for platforms that use physical (or in any way different)
> addressing upon boot, you may (and should) use segments' physical
> addresses that are not available (assigned) to sections.
> > sections. The problem was a progbits section with length > 0 and addr
> > = 0 which is IMHO bogus.
>  Not bogus -- the only section which matches your criteria I'm seeing is
> ".pdr": 

Yep - And that the one where the current copyelf function crashes the

>   [17] .pdr              PROGBITS        00000000 2c4954 034440 00      0   0 
>  4

> But it's not marked as allocatable, so it does not belong to the run-time
> image.  See also the "System V Application Binary Interface, Edition 4.1",
> chapter 4 for sections and 5 for segments. 

;) I am no elf god by far - I was just in the need of a bootloader so
i looked in the elf headers and collected the bits i thought were

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