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Re: Updates on RedHat 7.1/mips

To: Ralf Baechle <>
Subject: Re: Updates on RedHat 7.1/mips
From: Daniel Jacobowitz <>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:48:42 -0700
Cc: Carsten Langgaard <>,
In-reply-to: <>; from on Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:26:31PM +0200
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On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:26:31PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:13:20AM +0200, Carsten Langgaard wrote:
> > It look like there is a cross dependence, the build of tcsh failed with the
> > following message:
> > 
> > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.7250: /usr/bin/perl: No such file or directory
> > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.7250 (pbuild)
> > 
> > So tcsh is needed to build perl and perl is needed to build tcsh :-(
> One of the reasons why I believe that the major Linux distributions are
> fundamentally flawed - their build process doesn't account for such
> dependencies.  Point for BSD.

Debian has been going to great lengths to fix this.  We're a great deal
of the way along, too - to the point where bringing up our complete
hppa and ia64 distributions (with the exception of a few
platform-specific tool bugs and some gcc-3.0 incompatibilities) was
really relatively painless for the vast majority of packages.  Only a
tiny subset of packages are assumed installed at build time if they
aren't explicitly listed.

> The escape from this circular dependency is to build those packages manually
> which may require cheating in the configure and build process a bit.  Or
> install them from a binary package (which may require --nodeps and --force
> to install).  General rule therefore should be to only do such distribution
> package builds on systems which have a maximum installation.

Although I'm pretty sure that Debian's Perl package builds without the
use of tcsh... I've no idea where this is coming from.

Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

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