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Re: userspace spinlocks

To: Ralf Baechle <>
Subject: Re: userspace spinlocks
From: Jun Sun <>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:01:49 -0800
Cc: Florian Lohoff <>,
References: <> <> <>
Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:51:06AM -0800, Jun Sun wrote:
> > > Could
> > > there be a runtime linking thing with a cpu detection wether we
> > > have ll/sc or not ?
> >
> > This is a wonderful idea.  It should incorporate into future MIPS CPU
> > support structure.
> But what is the better alternative?  Emulating ll/sc is a generic facility.
> Aside of making that more efficient the only idea I have is putting entire
> atomic operations into the kernel such that the standard case should result
> in at most one exception to be handled in the kernel.

When I was playing with NEC Vr4111 (a MIPS III cpu but without ll/sc), I
notice the following comment in
glibc/linuxthreads/sysdeps/mips/pt-machine.h file (Is that Ralf's
comment?) :

   TODO: This version makes use of MIPS ISA 2 features.  It won't
   work on ISA 1.  These machines will have to take the overhead of
   a sysmips(MIPS_ATOMIC_SET, ...) syscall which isn't implemented
   yet correctly.  There is however a better solution for R3000
   uniprocessor machines possible.  */

I remembered I found a patch which actually uses mips syscalls.  For
some reasons, it did not work in the end.

BTW, I didn't know the kernel already has ll/sc emulation.  That seems
to be necessary, even just for the binary compability sake.


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