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* linux-mips@linux-mips.org
 
* linux-mips@linux-mips.org
This mailing list currently has the most traffic.  It is especially of interest as a good number of active developers are subscribed to this list.
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: This mailing list currently has the most traffic.  It is especially of interest as a good number of active developers are subscribed to this list.
  
* linux-cvs@linux-mips.org
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* linux-git@linux-mips.org
This is an announcement only mailing list to which a message for every CVS commit into linux-mips.org's, CVS archive of the Linux/MIPS community, is being sent. This allows following the development as it happens.
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: This is an announcement only mailing list to which the log message and the diffstat output for every GIT commit into linux-mips.org's, GIT repository, is being sent. This allows following the development as it happens.
  
* linux-cvs-patches@linux-mips.org
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* linux-git-patches@linux-mips.org
This is an announcement only mailing list.  The content is the same as on linux-cvs except that emails contain the full patch commited into CVS.  If you subscribe to this list be prepared to receive ''huge'' emails of upto 30MB and beyond.  Most people are better of by reading patches in the HTML archive.
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: This is an announcement only mailing list.  The content is the same as on linux-git except that emails contain the full patch commited into GIT also.  If you subscribe to this list be prepared to receive ''huge'' emails.  Most people will probably prefer reading the web archive instead.
  
Subscription to this lists is handled via Ecartis (ecartis@linux-mips.org), just send an email with the words subscribe <list-name>.  In order to unsubscribe, send unsubscribe linux-mips. Sending the word help will reveal further secrets about the advanced use of Ecartis.  There's also a [http://www.linux-mips.org/ecartis web-based interface to Ecartis].
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* nubi@linux-mips.org
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: A mailing list for discussing [[NUBI]], the new MIPS ABI proposed by MIPS Technologies. Despite the domain name of the address, use of NUBI is not intended to be restricted to building Linux kernels and applications.
  
Note linux-mips.org is using the [http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3168.html Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN)] TCP extension as described in RFC 3168.  The bug is known for years yet still defective firewalls that are dropping TCP SYN packets with ECN bits set are in useIf you can reach linux-mips.org yet don't receive any email from any of the linux-mips.org mailing lists you may have this problem.
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== Posting to lists ==
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* HTML postings will automatically be dropped.
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* Keep in mind that you actually want people to ''read'' your postings, so invest a few extra minutes to make proper sentenceRemember what your teacher told you at school?
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* Read and absorb RFC 1855.
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* Don't top quote:
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<pre>
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From:  Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>
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Date:  Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:40:09 +0200
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To:    "Abu M. Muttalib" <abum@aftek.com>
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Cc:    linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, k.oliver@t-online.de, jes@sgi.com
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Subject: Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (Jes Sorensen)
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  
The majority of subscribers doesn't seem to like HTML email, so please disable HTML for postings.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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A: Top-posting.
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Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
  
There are archives for these two lists in [ftp://ftp.linux-mips.org//pub/linux/mips/archives UNIX mbox format] and a searchable [http://www.linux-mips.org/archives/ web archive]The web archive is re-indexed every few hours, so usually it's a good idea to try it first when searching for anything that might be archived on one of the lists.  Archives are also maintained for a few historic mailing lists.
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A: No.
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Q: Should I leave quotations after my reply?
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</pre>
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* Disable any ridiculous corporate legalese email footersIt's not only annoying but also ridiculous on public mailing lists and of dubious legal value, if any.
  
Privacy: linux-mips.org will not use the subscriber list for any other purpose than operation of the mailing lists and in rare cases for other administrative purposes of linux-mips.org.  Postings to the public mailing lists will be archived and possibly mirrored on other sites.  If you don't like this don't post.
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If email was a school subject your teachers would have told this.
  
=== Verizon users ===
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=== Subscribing ===
Since a little while Verizon is blocking email from Britain, France, Germany and Russia.  According to the company this is due to spam - even though the USA are clear leader in global spam.  Anyway, if you're a Verizon user don't mail us about this problem.  It's Verizon's fault and we don't do anything to workaround this problem and frankly we couldn't care less than about an ISP patronizing it's customers this way.
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Related articles can be found at:
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Subscription to these lists is handled via Ecartis (ecartis@linux-mips.org), just send an email with the words subscribe <list-name>. In order to unsubscribe, send unsubscribe linux-mips. Sending the word "help" will reveal further secrets about the advanced use of Ecartis.  There's also a [http://www.linux-mips.org/ecartis web-based interface to Ecartis].
* http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/19/19225/1.html (German)
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* http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,66226,00.html (English)
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== IRC ==
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To subscribe to linux-mips mailing list send an email to 'ecartis@linux-mips.org' with a subject line that simply says "Subscribe linux-mips" - without the quotes.  After sometime check your inbox and you would have got a response that essentially states:
  
There is an IRC channel named #mipslinux for Linux/MIPS which may be
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          "Subscription confirmation ticket sent to user being subscribed."
found on irc.freenode.net.
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== Anonymous CVS ==
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Now the ticket would be a separate email and it would have a text like:
  
For those who always want to stay on the bleeding edge, and want to avoid having to download patch files or full tarballs, we also have an anonymous CVS server. Using CVS, you can checkout the Linux/MIPS source tree with the following commands where you insert linux, libc, gdb or faq for <repository>.
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        # my_email_id@my_isp.com has requested that you be subscribed linux-mips mailing list.
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        #
    cvs -d :pserver:cvs@ftp.linux-mips.org:/home/cvs login
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        # To subscribe, reply to this message, leaving the message body
    (Only needed the first time you use anonymous CVS, the password is "cvs")
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        # intact, or send the following lines in e-mail to
    cvs -d :pserver:cvs@ftp.linux-mips.org:/home/cvs co -r <tag> <repository>
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        # ecartis@linux-mips.org:
  
The "linux" repository contains a ''linux_2_2'', ''linux_2_4'' branch and Linux 2.6 on the trunk.
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        // job
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              appsub linux-mips my_email_id@my_isp.com \ 4457CD62:2989.1:yekhkzvcf
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        // eoj
  
There is a mailing list for information on what gets committed to this repository.
 
  
There is also the "malta/linux" repository which is a special tree especially tuned for stability on [[Mips_Malta|Malta]]. It's usually quite far behind the main linux repository and is being phased out in favor for full-blown Malta support in the main linux CVS tree. To checkout a stable 2.4 kernel use the tag ''MaltaRef_2_4'' and for 2.6 ''MaltaRef_2_6''.
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In response to this, if you are using email clients like MS Outlook you would need to send an email to ecartis@linux-mips.org with the following message body (a simple reply to the original ticket may not work with MS Outlook):
  
More on a historical note, there also is a linux-2.0 repository.  The CVS Linux 2.0 version is a backport of the massive MIPS improvments during the 2.1 series which was created for [[Cobalt]] when it became clear that 2.2 would not be released in
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        // job
time to ship with the Cobalt products.  Thus it only supports the Cobalt Qube and Raq.
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        appsub linux-mips my_email_id@my_isp.com \ 4457CD62:2989.1:yekhkzvcf
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        // eoj
  
== Web CVS ==
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Then you would get subscribed to the mailing list.
                                                                               
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Via [http://www.linux-mips.org/cvsweb cvsweb], you have direct access to the new Linux/MIPS kernel sources, and a few other projects hosted in the same CVS archive.  The intuitive interface allows you to follow the development at the click of your mouse.
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== XCVS ==
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Note linux-mips.org is using the [http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3168.html Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN)] TCP extension as described in RFC 3168.  The bug is known for years yet still defective firewalls that are dropping TCP SYN packets with ECN bits set are in use.  If you can reach linux-mips.org yet don't receive any email from any of the linux-mips.org mailing lists you may have this problem.
  
[http://xcvs.sf.net XCVS] runs nightly and generates patches for CVS commits made in the previous day.  You can search patches through a variety of searching criteria.  [http://www.linux-mips.org/xcvs/linux-mips/index.html Click here to explore].
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Since the majority of subscribers doesn't seem to like HTML email the list is configured to ''drop'' HTML email.
  
== CVS over Rsync ==
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There are archives for these lists in [ftp://ftp.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/archives UNIX mbox format] and a searchable [//www.linux-mips.org/archives/ web archive].  The web archive is re-indexed every few hours, so usually it's a good idea to try it first when searching for anything that might be archived on one of the lists.  Archives are also maintained for a few historic mailing lists.
  
The CVS repository can also be fetched using rsync:
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Privacy: linux-mips.org will not use the subscriber list for any other purpose than operation of the mailing lists and in rare cases for other administrative purposes of linux-mips.org.  Postings to the public mailing lists will be archived and possibly mirrored on other sites.  If you don't like this don't post.
    rsync -avz --progress --stats rsync://ftp.linux-mips.org/cvs/linux /local/directory
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    rsync -avz --progress --stats rsync://ftp.linux-mips.org/cvs/CVSROOT /local/directory
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You can then check it out using:
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=== Verizon users ===
    cvs -d/local/directory co linux  (optionally, throw in -r linux_X_Y_Z for a specific branch)
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Verizon has begun blocking email from Britain, France, Germany, and Russia. According to the company, this is due to spam &mdash; even though the USA is the clear leader in global spam. Anyway, if you're a Verizon user, don't mail us about this problem. Because it is Verizon's fault, we don't do anything to workaround this problem, and frankly, we couldn't care less than about an ISP patronizing its customers this way.
  
== Weekly Snapshots ==
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Related articles can be found at:
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* http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/19/19225/1.html (German)
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* http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,66226,00.html (English)
  
There are some snapshots of Linux/MIPS CVS ('linux' module only) available [http://www.longlandclan.hopto.org/~stuartl/mips-linux/sources here](Note, this is hosted on 512/128kBit ADSL -- so go easy :-)
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=== Yahoo users ===
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Spam is a reality on mailing lists.  Unfortunately Yahoo ''frequently'' blocks the IP addresses of list servers. Well, the admin of linux-mips.org doesn't care anymoreIf your server blocks linux-mips.org's email, your email address will automatically removed from the list like everybody else's.  Get an mail service provider with a fucking clue.
  
There are another snapshots of "linux" at [ftp://ftp.dfpost.ru ftp.dfpost.ru](user mips without password).
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== IRC ==
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There is an IRC channel named [irc://irc.freenode.net/mipslinux #mipslinux] for Linux/MIPS which may be found on [irc://irc.freenode.net/ irc.freenode.net].
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
* [[Git]] is the new [[SCM]] tool used in the Linux world
 
* [[Git]] is the new [[SCM]] tool used in the Linux world

Latest revision as of 09:07, 23 October 2012

Mailing lists

There are three Linux/MIPS-oriented mailing lists:

  • linux-mips@linux-mips.org
This mailing list currently has the most traffic. It is especially of interest as a good number of active developers are subscribed to this list.
  • linux-git@linux-mips.org
This is an announcement only mailing list to which the log message and the diffstat output for every GIT commit into linux-mips.org's, GIT repository, is being sent. This allows following the development as it happens.
  • linux-git-patches@linux-mips.org
This is an announcement only mailing list. The content is the same as on linux-git except that emails contain the full patch commited into GIT also. If you subscribe to this list be prepared to receive huge emails. Most people will probably prefer reading the web archive instead.
  • nubi@linux-mips.org
A mailing list for discussing NUBI, the new MIPS ABI proposed by MIPS Technologies. Despite the domain name of the address, use of NUBI is not intended to be restricted to building Linux kernels and applications.

Posting to lists

  • HTML postings will automatically be dropped.
  • Keep in mind that you actually want people to read your postings, so invest a few extra minutes to make proper sentence. Remember what your teacher told you at school?
  • Read and absorb RFC 1855.
  • Don't top quote:
From:   Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>
Date:   Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:40:09 +0200
To:     "Abu M. Muttalib" <abum@aftek.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, k.oliver@t-online.de, jes@sgi.com
Subject: Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (Jes Sorensen)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

A: No.
Q: Should I leave quotations after my reply?
  • Disable any ridiculous corporate legalese email footers. It's not only annoying but also ridiculous on public mailing lists and of dubious legal value, if any.

If email was a school subject your teachers would have told this.

Subscribing

Subscription to these lists is handled via Ecartis (ecartis@linux-mips.org), just send an email with the words subscribe <list-name>. In order to unsubscribe, send unsubscribe linux-mips. Sending the word "help" will reveal further secrets about the advanced use of Ecartis. There's also a web-based interface to Ecartis.

To subscribe to linux-mips mailing list send an email to 'ecartis@linux-mips.org' with a subject line that simply says "Subscribe linux-mips" - without the quotes. After sometime check your inbox and you would have got a response that essentially states:

          "Subscription confirmation ticket sent to user being subscribed."

Now the ticket would be a separate email and it would have a text like:

        # my_email_id@my_isp.com has requested that you be subscribed linux-mips mailing list.  
        #
        # To subscribe, reply to this message, leaving the message body
        # intact, or send the following lines in e-mail to
        # ecartis@linux-mips.org:
        // job
              appsub linux-mips my_email_id@my_isp.com \ 4457CD62:2989.1:yekhkzvcf
        // eoj


In response to this, if you are using email clients like MS Outlook you would need to send an email to ecartis@linux-mips.org with the following message body (a simple reply to the original ticket may not work with MS Outlook):

        // job
        appsub linux-mips my_email_id@my_isp.com \ 4457CD62:2989.1:yekhkzvcf
        // eoj

Then you would get subscribed to the mailing list.

Note linux-mips.org is using the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) TCP extension as described in RFC 3168. The bug is known for years yet still defective firewalls that are dropping TCP SYN packets with ECN bits set are in use. If you can reach linux-mips.org yet don't receive any email from any of the linux-mips.org mailing lists you may have this problem.

Since the majority of subscribers doesn't seem to like HTML email the list is configured to drop HTML email.

There are archives for these lists in UNIX mbox format and a searchable web archive. The web archive is re-indexed every few hours, so usually it's a good idea to try it first when searching for anything that might be archived on one of the lists. Archives are also maintained for a few historic mailing lists.

Privacy: linux-mips.org will not use the subscriber list for any other purpose than operation of the mailing lists and in rare cases for other administrative purposes of linux-mips.org. Postings to the public mailing lists will be archived and possibly mirrored on other sites. If you don't like this don't post.

Verizon users

Verizon has begun blocking email from Britain, France, Germany, and Russia. According to the company, this is due to spam — even though the USA is the clear leader in global spam. Anyway, if you're a Verizon user, don't mail us about this problem. Because it is Verizon's fault, we don't do anything to workaround this problem, and frankly, we couldn't care less than about an ISP patronizing its customers this way.

Related articles can be found at:

Yahoo users

Spam is a reality on mailing lists. Unfortunately Yahoo frequently blocks the IP addresses of list servers. Well, the admin of linux-mips.org doesn't care anymore. If your server blocks linux-mips.org's email, your email address will automatically removed from the list like everybody else's. Get an mail service provider with a fucking clue.

IRC

There is an IRC channel named #mipslinux for Linux/MIPS which may be found on irc.freenode.net.

See also

  • Git is the new SCM tool used in the Linux world