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I hope a job posting to this mailing list isn't a faux pas, but we're
looking for a linux-savy programmer to develop cable modem software.
We're
a start-up company that is producing broadband access equipment
including
cable modem infrastructure and consumer end cable modems.

Requires: 3-5 years programming Linux systems, TCP/IP, SNMP V2,
real-time OS
experience(ie. pSOS, VxWorks or the rtlinux kernel), kernel porting and
device
driver experience essential.  C, C++ programming environment.  pSOS
and/or
MIPs R3000 architecture experience desirable.

Cadant (www.cadant.com) is located in Lisle, IL.  More information about
the
company can be found on our web site, or contact me at this e-mail.

Regards,
Rudy Moore



From karimi@MERCURY.CS.UREGINA.CA  Thu Sep  2 00:11:22 1999
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Hi,

 DIPC 2.0-pre10 (http://wallybox.cei.net/dipc) is now available for
downloading from orion.cs.uregina.ca/pub/dipc. There are no known bugs
in it, and unless some new problems are detected, this will be the base for
the final DIPC 2.0 release.

 As of 2.0-pre5, DIPC is GPL. Please test 2.0-pre10 and inform me of the
results.

-Kamran

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Hi,

Rabeeh Khoury wrote:
> I'm having a trouble mounting a root file system on my embedded linux
> (one of our (Galileo's) boards).
> the problem is that i built a driver for Flash memory ( meanwhile it
> reads and writes from SDRAM for
> verification purposes ) i got an initrd image (from HardHat dir in
> ftp.linux.sgi.com) and wrote it to the memory  (using monitior);
> but each time i try to mount the filesystem the data i get is switched ;
> for example ; when the linux tries to read the filesystems' magic number
> ; it gets
> 53FE instead of FE53 (ext2 magic number).
> i tried to do some manipulation in the driver by switching the hi and
> low bytes in a 16 bit data in the buffer
> that the linux allocated ; it fixes the 16 bit reads but gets wrong data
> in other transactions (32 bit ) ; for example
> the data A B C D (A..D are bytes) are read B A D C.
> 
> p.s. i'm running linux on big mips

Did you try to make your own initrd image ? Are you sure your initrd
works with oridnary ram driver, not your flash emulation on SDRAM ?

BTW, the flash driver project are at
http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/. We are using the drivers for our
Baget/MIPS port. There are a driver that emulates flash on the box RAM,
cfi driver and lots of other stuff.

Regards,
Gleb.

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Hi All

I'm having a trouble mounting a root file system on my embedded linux
(one of our (Galileo's) boards).
the problem is that i built a driver for Flash memory ( meanwhile it
reads and writes from SDRAM for
verification purposes ) i got an initrd image (from HardHat dir in
ftp.linux.sgi.com) and wrote it to the memory  (using monitior);
but each time i try to mount the filesystem the data i get is switched ;
for example ; when the linux tries to read the filesystems' magic number
; it gets
53FE instead of FE53 (ext2 magic number).
i tried to do some manipulation in the driver by switching the hi and
low bytes in a 16 bit data in the buffer
that the linux allocated ; it fixes the 16 bit reads but gets wrong data
in other transactions (32 bit ) ; for example
the data A B C D (A..D are bytes) are read B A D C.

p.s. i'm running linux on big mips

if you have any suggestions please mail me.

thanx for the effort.


i would like also to report a bug in the mips-linux-gcc crosscompiler
under i386.
when i get to the end of READ request  (right after end_request(1)) ;
the cpu jumps to address 8 instead of the beginning of while(1)
i wroked around it by adding "continue " !

void flash_request (void)  {

  while (1) { /* loop for all the requests */
    INIT_REQUEST; /* if no further requests available ; return () is
performed */
    if (CURRENT->cmd == READ) {
    /*
    READ request manipulations
    */

      end_request(1); /* Success */


      continue;

    }
}
}

bye
Rabea


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Hi All

if u have a link for a small (max 2MG's) good initrd.img for big mips
please send it to me

thanx


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Hi

I have sent a mail already to Ralf B=E4chle at Uni Koblenz with the req=
uest if
there is any known Linux version for Pyramid Nile Technologie machines =
and hwo
to get them running linux.
Any help or information would be appreciated.

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From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net  Mon Sep  6 18:10:18 1999
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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Michael Wabner wrote:

> We=B4ve read your homepage (The Linux/MIPS Faq), and you saidthat wecould
> let you know if we have Mips based Systems, and the answer is: Yes. Our
> companie sells PC=B4sfrom SGI (Mips and Intel Architecture) and our
> customers wants to know if there is any possibility to migrate Linux on
> their Maschines. Now we want to help everybody on this Project to solve
> the Problem to port Linux on Mips. Please let us know how the project is
> going on and if there is a running port of Linux on Mips is available.=20

http://lena.fnet.fr is not up-to-date, more up-to-date is
http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/mips-howto.html on the Linux SGI web site.

Regards,
Richard

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Well, I've been subscribed to this list for a few months now and I've been
waiting (hoping) to see if it was possible to run Linux on some indigo 2s.
However, that doesn't seem to be possible (from what I understand).  So,
I'm looking for someplace to download source code for extreem linux.  The
university I'm attending (and working for) had 24 SGI indigo 2s donated to
them.  They have no use for them so I would like to setup a cluster.  I've
read quite a lot about beowulf, but I still am not very knowledgeable (I
have no idea if the C source will run on IRIX... I'm not entirely sure
linux won't run on these.  Anyway if you have any advise or help (where I
could find the source code and so on... perhpas some good beowulf sites) I
would appreciate it.

David Mitchell


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Greetings

I have managed to get a 5000/33 running linux, however I am now trying a
3100. A couple of questions;-

how do I run a 3100 without the keyboard/ mouse.

Is the 3100 faster than the 5000, as it net boots in about 40 seconds as
opposed to the minutes the 5000 takes.

What is the current status of the SCSI driver for the 3100?


Lastly, my net access is via a protable PC running W95 and soon to be
NT4. (I know its horrible but most of the work I do is in windoze!!)
Anyway does anyone have any advide how to setup the CVS system via a
PC/W95 and my host at home a PC/linux?????


Any ideas????


Wayne


P.S. if there is anyone in the UK interested I might be getting a couple
of 3100's that will be looking for a good home...


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Rabeeh Khoury wrote:
> if u have a link for a small (max 2MG's) good initrd.img for big mips
> please send it to me

Unfortunately, I haven't enogh space on an Internet server to provide
on-line images. If you want I might send the tar.gz file with image you
need. Now, we use the following:

flash.base 2.2 MB image that contains boot procedure, networking, and
ash. 

flash.x ~10 MB contains flash.base + X fb server and lesstif mwm. It's X
terminal software.

flash.i contains flash.base + rshd. It's used to write flash.

All images might be used as  flash, initrd or NFS root. There are also
three scripts that creates images from live RH distro.

Regards,
Gleb.

From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de  Tue Sep  7 20:34:07 1999
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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@uni-koblenz.de>
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On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:42:50AM +0100, dstein@phoenixcontact.com wrote:

> I have sent a mail already to Ralf Bächle at Uni Koblenz with the request if
> there is any known Linux version for Pyramid Nile Technologie machines and hwo
> to get them running linux.

Not to my knowledge.

  Ralf

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From: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@baby-dragons.com>
To: "Gleb O. Raiko" <raiko@niisi.msk.ru>
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	Hello Gleb,  Are the scripts you mentioned below available
	gpl ?  ,  Reason I am asking is of you can share them with
	us ?  And then if you are willing to ?  Tia,  JimL

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> Rabeeh Khoury wrote:
> > if u have a link for a small (max 2MG's) good initrd.img for big mips
> > please send it to me
 ...snip...
> 
> All images might be used as  flash, initrd or NFS root. There are also
> three scripts that creates images from live RH distro.
> 
> Regards,
> Gleb.
> 

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Wayne Allen wrote:

> I have managed to get a 5000/33 running linux, however I am now trying a
> 3100. A couple of questions;-
[SNIP] 
> Is the 3100 faster than the 5000, as it net boots in about 40 seconds as
> opposed to the minutes the 5000 takes.

By no means - the 3100 has a 16MHz R2000A and your 5000/33 has a 33MHz
R3000A. Hmm....on the other hand...if you do not want your
5000/33-processor module because of your "faster" 3100, why not give it to
me... }:->> Ok, just kidding, although I am sure my 20MHz Maxine would
really like the speed boost :-).
 
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Hello:
 Does anyone know of a Linux port to the RC32364 processor and even more
ideally with the RC32134 System Controller.  
Regards,
Dave

David Duxstad                           
Duxstad Consulting
612-828-9938
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From triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com  Wed Sep  8 04:52:48 1999
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The sii.c driver doesn't work.  I have a skeleton that never really
did anything that can work off of - the sii.c was implemented under
freebsd.

-Tom Riemer


On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Wayne Allen wrote:

> Greetings
> 
> I have managed to get a 5000/33 running linux, however I am now trying a
> 3100. A couple of questions;-
> 
> how do I run a 3100 without the keyboard/ mouse.
> 
> Is the 3100 faster than the 5000, as it net boots in about 40 seconds as
> opposed to the minutes the 5000 takes.
> 
> What is the current status of the SCSI driver for the 3100?
> 
> 
> Lastly, my net access is via a protable PC running W95 and soon to be
> NT4. (I know its horrible but most of the work I do is in windoze!!)
> Anyway does anyone have any advide how to setup the CVS system via a
> PC/W95 and my host at home a PC/linux?????
> 
> 
> Any ideas????
> 
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> P.S. if there is anyone in the UK interested I might be getting a couple
> of 3100's that will be looking for a good home...
> 
> 

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I am trying install Linux to SGI IRIS XS24 with R3000 processor and get =
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From raiko@niisi.msk.ru  Wed Sep  8 11:27:20 1999
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Hello,
"Mr. James W. Laferriere" wrote:
> 
>         Hello Gleb,  Are the scripts you mentioned below available
>         gpl ?  ,  Reason I am asking is of you can share them with
>         us ?  And then if you are willing to ?  Tia,  JimL
> 

Sure, they are GPLed. Well, they're not so huge and I attach them.

Brief description:

mkflash.functions contains general-purpose functions to make things
easier.

mkflash.base creates ~2.5 MB root fs that contains tailored RH boot
procedure, network utilities to startup network (ifconfig and route) and
ash. All binaries are from standard Roughcuts CD. We just sripped all of
them including shared libraries. Also, ifcfg-eth0 might puzzle you, it
sets ip address from Ethernet one. Really, we use the driver  that
emulates Ethernet over shared VME bus, so last digit in Ethernet address
identifies location of the box in VME bus and our customers need to set
ip according to 'geographic' location of the box on VME.

The root fs is assumed to be mounted read-only. In order to provide rw
storage, 4 MB ramdisk is mounted during boot up on /tmp and all files
that are created/modified during RH boot procedure are links to
somewhere on /tmp (e.g. /var is link to /tmp/var). Note, if you don't
use flash you might just mount root fs rw. Also, 4 MB is default ramdisk
size, software needs much less. Well, if you mount the root fs rw over
NFS and don't use ramdisk, add rm (now rm is dummy script). Otherwise,
you'll have problems on boot.


mkflsh.x creates ~10 MB root fs that contains X temrminal software.
Note, we use a small subset of Russian fonts only. These fonts contain
standard ASCII in 0-127 and Russian letters in 128-255. We use
framebuffer X server (we really need up to 4 X servers, because there
might be up to 4 video adapters) and mwm. I love DEC's VXT2000 (the best
X terminal to my taste), so we plan to write an X client that will
performs adinistration tasks and looks as VXT's one. The last thing is
Xnoinput shared library, it's used to switch keyboard and mouse between
X servers.

mkflash.i adds the rsh daemon to the base image. The pam module is
pam_permit, so you might just do everething remotely. We use this image
to store our software in flash.

Regards,
Gleb.
Regards,
Gleb.
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From raiko@niisi.msk.ru  Wed Sep  8 11:43:11 1999
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> Averyanov Alexander wrote:
> I am trying install Linux to SGI IRIS XS24 with R3000 processor and
> get many problems. This system recognize only ECOFF format for booting
> kernel ( i think).
> 
> And i don't compile kernel for R3000 in this format (and other formats
> too) - many mistakes.
> 
> How i can compile kernel ?

The Linux kernel may be compiled in ELF only. Also, linker for
Linux/MIPS doesn't support ECOFF at all. This feature was dropped
recently because nobody really needs them. The Linux/MIPS kernel sources
contain elf2ecoff, so you may convert ELF images to ECOFF ones. (Don't
forget link your image with -N, current ld/eld2ecoff are buggy.)

> Do you compile kernel for R000 in ECOFF format for me ?

You may cross compile the kernel sources on PCs.

> What computers with R3000 support LINUX?
> This informations very important for me.
> 

Now to my knowlege, DECstations and Bagets. There is also a guy who
ports Linux on his R3081 based box, but I don't know the details.

Regards,
Gleb.

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Hi there,

I am system adminstrator of the University of Antwerp (Belgium) 
and i just received (I've powered it of myself) an old Decstation 
5000. 

Now I want install a linux on it (to scan the network ... and run 
some nifty tools ...) but I cannot seem to get it running. Netbsd is 
no problem. 

I've tried a lot (except for the milo) and nothing seems to work.

Is my only sollution crossdevelopment?

Yours.
____________________________________________________________
Dominique Kindt
System administrator - Webmaster
Group Hardware en Infrastructure
Computer Support Services - UFSIA - University of Antwerp
Prinsstraat 10
2000 Antwerpen

email: Dominique.Kindt@ufsia.ac.be
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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, David Mitchell wrote:
> Well, I've been subscribed to this list for a few months now and I've been
> waiting (hoping) to see if it was possible to run Linux on some indigo 2s.
> However, that doesn't seem to be possible (from what I understand).  So,
> I'm looking for someplace to download source code for extreem linux.  The
> university I'm attending (and working for) had 24 SGI indigo 2s donated to
> them.  They have no use for them so I would like to setup a cluster.  I've
> read quite a lot about beowulf, but I still am not very knowledgeable (I
> have no idea if the C source will run on IRIX... I'm not entirely sure
> linux won't run on these.  Anyway if you have any advise or help (where I
> could find the source code and so on... perhpas some good beowulf sites) I
> would appreciate it.


I would say that it is possible as I have a Beowulf cluster here built out
of Indigo2s.  It's been up for almost three months now.  I have recently
added (E)ISA support for the Indigo2 to the CVS archive (although it is
only in the linux_2_2 branch until I get my devel machine fixed) and I
have gotten a 3com Etherlink III card working in it as well.  E-mail me if
you need any help setting it up.  

-Andrew



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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Kindt Dominique wrote:

> I am system adminstrator of the University of Antwerp (Belgium) 
> and i just received (I've powered it of myself) an old Decstation 
> 5000. 

Which DECstation 5000; a 5000/20, a 5000/260 or one in between? They do
differ a bit.

> Now I want install a linux on it (to scan the network ... and run 
> some nifty tools ...) but I cannot seem to get it running. Netbsd is 
> no problem. 

Both my /25 and /133 run Linux.

> I've tried a lot (except for the milo) and nothing seems to work.

Following tips and instructions on http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/
can result in a DECstation running Linux.

> Is my only sollution crossdevelopment?

Well, earlier today the /133 compiled a kernel from fresh cvs
source running Linux, but a kernel can also be cross-compiled
if you follow the steps in the Linux/MIPS HOWTO at
http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/mips-howto.html.

Compiling programs I would prefer to do natively, but that is not always
necessary as ftp.linux.sgi.com has a lot pre-built packages.

Regards,
Richard

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	Hello Gleb,  Thank you very much .  This will help me to 
	do a port of linux I have been dreaming about ... JimL

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> Hello,
> "Mr. James W. Laferriere" wrote:
> >         Hello Gleb,  Are the scripts you mentioned below available
> >         gpl ?  ,  Reason I am asking is of you can share them with
> >         us ?  And then if you are willing to ?  Tia,  JimL

> Sure, they are GPLed. Well, they're not so huge and I attach them.
 ... fine descriptions snipped ...
       +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
       | James   W.   Laferriere | System   Techniques | Give me VMS     |
       | Network        Engineer | 25416       22nd So |   Give me Linux |
       | babydr@baby-dragons.com | DesMoines  WA 98198 |     only on AXP |
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I have a SGI Indigo Elan with a R3000 (33MHz) processor.  I was wondering 
if I could get it to run linux.  Any info you may have would be great.
Thanks,
Ryan Grimm

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Just got two Netpower R4400 200 MHz Boxes and I think there is a lot of
potential in making them a hell of a server.    But, first things first.   I
need to install Linux and am not sure whether the Netpower box is supported.
These are >> NT 3.51 PCs <<< with a small FAT partition and the rest is
NTFS.
My Questions:
1. Is there a way to repartition the NTFS partition ?   There is a 1.0 GB HD
but I'm going to install another one 4.5 GB strictly for Linux.
2. What is the procedure for making the second drive Linux bootable + boot
as Linux (same as in Win NT4.0's boot.ini file)

Please send me a response or a lead to these questions.

Thanks

Paris A.


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On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 10:53:15PM -0500, Paris Altidis wrote:

> Just got two Netpower R4400 200 MHz Boxes and I think there is a lot of
> potential in making them a hell of a server.    But, first things first.   I
> need to install Linux and am not sure whether the Netpower box is supported.
> These are >> NT 3.51 PCs <<< with a small FAT partition and the rest is
> NTFS.
> My Questions:
> 1. Is there a way to repartition the NTFS partition ?

I assume you want to do so without data loss - you'll have to use whatever
NT offers you for that purpose.  Linux doesn't have any tools for that,
especially the Linux NTFS support is flakey.

>   There is a 1.0 GB HD
> but I'm going to install another one 4.5 GB strictly for Linux.
> 2. What is the procedure for making the second drive Linux bootable + boot
> as Linux (same as in Win NT4.0's boot.ini file)

That's quite simple.  You only need to place the kernel to boot on the
FAT partition on the first drive, start it and that's it.  The machine uses
the same partition scheme as PCs with the exception that the boot blocks and
bootable flags in the partition table are unused.

There are several models of NeTpower machines, their uniprocessor machine
seems to be identical with the Acer PICA.  You'd probably have to do some
kernel hacking to do in order to get it running, would you be interested
and capable of doin this?  I can help you with that.

  Ralf

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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@csn.ul.ie>
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Hi,
	I've started looking at keyboard support for the DS5000/200, and
I'm getting nowhere fast but what the hell :-), the enclosed patch fixes a
few bugs in the dz.c driver I've spotted that don't become apparant until
two or more ports are in use,

* dz_stop may be called with a NULL tty, it shouldn't be but I've seen it
happen, so I now check for a null tty in dz_stop
* the init function was not working the for loop was constructed wrong,
 I re-wrote it a bit cleaner
* long flags instead of unsigned long
* spinning wheels checking wrong register on serial port
* remove prom printing of everything on serial port 
* remove duplicate section in serial console init

Please read my next post about some problems I'm currently having,

Please apply to tree, is against 2.2.10, 

Dave.

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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@csn.ul.ie>
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Hi,
	With the dz.c, when I switch on interrupts to allow the keyboard
and mouse interrupts to be received I lose my serial console until init
comes up, it seems to be a problem with having interrupts for an un-opened
port i.e. the console port, also the console_put_char routine stops
working, and it is contained inside a save_flags,cli,restore_flags block,

Has anyone any ideas on what to do? I think I might have to disable
transmitter interrupts inside the put_char routine but I doing this
looking easy at the moment,

Regards,
	Dave.

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Should I be enabling interrupts during the boot-up stage for the serial
port keyboard? or should I be doing this later on ?

Dave.

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From raiko@niisi.msk.ru  Mon Sep 13 17:41:00 1999
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Dave Airlie wrote:
> 
> Should I be enabling interrupts during the boot-up stage for the serial
> port keyboard? or should I be doing this later on ?

To save interrupt overhead, serial drivers enable interrupts during the
open call, i.e. at the moment the interrupts are really needed. The
console driver opens a low-level serial driver anyway. So, you don't
need to enable interrupts at the boot stage even for console.

The zs driver is reliable enough (if Harald applied all patches) to be a
source for references. Or just look at standard serial.c. Note, the zs
driver allocates irq (in request_irq) in zs_init, but _enables_
interrupts in startup() (called from zs_open, in particular). The
standard serial driver allocates and enables irq in one place, during
open.

Also, what might puzzles you is the fact the zs driver has additional
code for the debugger/keyboard support. The code programs interrupts for
lines that are used for debuuging/keyboard IO. But in this case, those
lines are excluded from the open procedure, so high-level drivers can't
use them and it's very special case.

Hope this helps,
Gleb.

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Subject: trying to get PMAG-BA working on DS5000/200
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Well I've got hopefully the PMAG-BA support compiled in properly to a
2.2.10 on my DS5000/200,
I see 

TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 25.0 MHz (no parity)
slot 0: DEC      PMAG-BA  V5.3a   

so it sees the card I get 

pmagbafb.c: found in slot 0 at address be000000.
pmagbafb.c: Trying to initialise PMAG-BA fb ...
Console: switching to frame buffer device                                      

so it finds it, and says stuff but I don't see anything happening on the
monitor Linux boots up the rest of the way ... what am I missing?

Dave.

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> 
> pmagbafb.c: found in slot 0 at address be000000.
> pmagbafb.c: Trying to initialise PMAG-BA fb ...
> Console: switching to frame buffer device                                      
> 
> so it finds it, and says stuff but I don't see anything happening on the
> monitor Linux boots up the rest of the way ... what am I missing?


bad following up to my own post and all that ... I have changed the base
addresses I think I needed to change in pmag-ba-fb.c and I just dl'ed the
fb X server which fails with 

xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Operation not supported by device)

Dave.

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Dave Airlie wrote:
> 
> so it finds it, and says stuff but I don't see anything happening on the
> monitor Linux boots up the rest of the way ... what am I missing?
> 

Did you include dummy console ? 

The console driver is started before a frame buffer device is ready. The
console driver determines it is able to work if the underlying device is
available (look at con_init() in drivers/char/console.c). The procedure
is quite simple: the console driver looks on return value from
con_startup. Usually, to tell the console driver there will be a frame
buffer device later, conswitchp is set to dummy_con (look at
arch/mips/<box>/setup.c, for example). The startup routine of the dummy
console just returns non-NULL value. Later, register_framebuffer will
call take_over_console to switch from the dummy console to the real
frame buffer.

If the console driver gets NULL value from con_startup it just doesn't
initialize itself. So you just haven't console at all at this case or
more probably the serial console is still used.

Regards,
Gleb.

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Dave Airlie wrote:
> 
> >
> > pmagbafb.c: found in slot 0 at address be000000.
> > pmagbafb.c: Trying to initialise PMAG-BA fb ...
> > Console: switching to frame buffer device
> >
> > so it finds it, and says stuff but I don't see anything happening on the
> > monitor Linux boots up the rest of the way ... what am I missing?
> 
> bad following up to my own post and all that ... I have changed the base
> addresses I think I needed to change in pmag-ba-fb.c and I just dl'ed the
> fb X server which fails with
> 
> xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Operation not supported by device)
> 

Or you just don't have the tty driver. Usually, tty_open doesn't depend
on base address of the frame buffer. You should get an exception (bus or
illegal address) soon, but tty_open should be opened cleanly.

Regards,
Gleb.

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PMAG-BA is going on my DS5000/200, I had removed a line in setup.c that
the patch inserted, that is now back and it just booted with a Tux in the
corner, 

I've changed the base address in the necessary spots also ...
now to get a keyboard to go with it :-)

Dave.

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Michael Engel wrote:

> 
> Dave,
> 
> > Well I've got hopefully the PMAG-BA support compiled in properly to a
> > 2.2.10 on my DS5000/200,
> > I see 
> > 
> > TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 25.0 MHz (no parity)
> > slot 0: DEC      PMAG-BA  V5.3a   
> > 
> > so it sees the card I get 
> > 
> > pmagbafb.c: found in slot 0 at address be000000.
> > pmagbafb.c: Trying to initialise PMAG-BA fb ...
> > Console: switching to frame buffer device                                      
> > so it finds it, and says stuff but I don't see anything happening on the
> > monitor Linux boots up the rest of the way ... what am I missing?
> 
> There a bug still in the fb device code - the frame buffer base address
> is hardcoded as the initialisation comes before the TC init and I didn't
> implement probing in the fb device driver. Just replace the address with
> be000000 for now. Sorry about that ...
> 
> regards,
> 	Michael
> 

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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, GUILLEVIC Jean-Yves wrote:

> I have a SGI 4D25 and a DEC VAX Station 3100 M38
> I d'like them to run on linux-mips...

You can forget that with the VAXstation, it has a VAX processor, not a
MIPS. The 4D25 isn't mentioned in the HOWTO at
http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/mips-howto.html.

Good luck,
Richard

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Greetings,


On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Richard van den Berg wrote:
> > I have a SGI 4D25 and a DEC VAX Station 3100 M38
> > I d'like them to run on linux-mips...
 
> You can forget that with the VAXstation, it has a VAX processor, not a
> MIPS. ...
There is a (new) linux-on-vax project. Check out
http://www.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/~atp/linux-vax/

(or try netbsd/vax).


BTW. A very interesting web-page on all kind of ports of linux can be
found on 'http://www.ctv.es/USERS/xose/linux/linux_ports.html'


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In the DECstation irq.c code 

mask_irq does
    if (dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask) {         /* This is an ASIC
interrupt    */
        *imr &= ~dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask;
        dummy = *imr;
        dummy = *imr;
    } else                      /* This is a cpu interrupt        */
        set_cp0_status(ST0_IM, read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS) &
~dec_interrupt[irq_nr].cpu_mask);

and unmask does
if (dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask) {         /* This is an ASIC interrupt
*/
        *imr |= dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask;
        dummy = *imr;
        dummy = *imr;
    } 
    set_cp0_status(ST0_IM, read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS) |
dec_interrupt[irq_nr].cpu_mask);

Note the else in the mask_irq code but not in the unmask, does this matter
at all ? or should the else on the other one be there ?

Dave.

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Hehe, I asked the same question a while back, at which time Harald
prounounced this blessing upon it:

---------

It's nonexistant by purpose.

I tried to write an irq handler which is abstract enough to work on five
completely different machines wrt IRQs (thus the somewhat nontransparent
setup
routines in arch/mips/dec/setup.c). Some DECstations have an IOASIC which is
wired to one of the six CPU hardware interrupts. The IOASIC handles up to 32
interrupts itself.

arch/mips/kernel/head.S disables the CPU interrupts, so when the first
IOASIC
interrupt is unmasked, the appropriate CPU interrupt is unconditionally
enabled
as well and will never be disabled again because another IOASIC interrupt
may
be enabled.

I am simply relying on the assumption that the IOASIC will not generate an
interrupt if all interrupts are disabled in the IOASIC itself and it seems
to
work.

----------

:-)

Regards,
Brad


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Airlie <airlied@csn.ul.ie>
To: <linux-mips@fnet.fr>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:31 PM
Subject: query about arch/mips/dec/irq.c (mask & unmask irq)


>
> In the DECstation irq.c code
>
> mask_irq does
>     if (dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask) {         /* This is an ASIC
> interrupt    */
>         *imr &= ~dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask;
>         dummy = *imr;
>         dummy = *imr;
>     } else                      /* This is a cpu interrupt        */
>         set_cp0_status(ST0_IM, read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS) &
> ~dec_interrupt[irq_nr].cpu_mask);
>
> and unmask does
> if (dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask) {         /* This is an ASIC interrupt
> */
>         *imr |= dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask;
>         dummy = *imr;
>         dummy = *imr;
>     }
>     set_cp0_status(ST0_IM, read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS) |
> dec_interrupt[irq_nr].cpu_mask);
>
> Note the else in the mask_irq code but not in the unmask, does this matter
> at all ? or should the else on the other one be there ?
>
> Dave.
>
> ------------ David Airlie, David.Airlie@ul.ie,airlied@skynet --------
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From paul@milleng.com.au  Fri Sep 17 00:30:44 1999
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Folks, could I make a bold suggestion?

Bradley below refered David Arlie to an email from Harald outlining how he's
managed (sneakily :-) to make the interupt code work.

Perhaps these hints as to how it works could go into the code itself to help
other hapless hackers?????

I know it's a lot to ask for documentation in the code, but hey, I'm just
software quality assurance mad really!!! :-)

Paul


"Bradley D. LaRonde" wrote:
> 
> Hehe, I asked the same question a while back, at which time Harald
> prounounced this blessing upon it:
> 
> ---------
> 
> It's nonexistant by purpose.
> 
> I tried to write an irq handler which is abstract enough to work on five
> completely different machines wrt IRQs (thus the somewhat nontransparent
> setup routines in arch/mips/dec/setup.c). Some DECstations have an IOASIC
> which is wired to one of the six CPU hardware interrupts. The IOASIC handles
> up to 32 interrupts itself.
> 
> arch/mips/kernel/head.S disables the CPU interrupts, so when the first
> IOASIC interrupt is unmasked, the appropriate CPU interrupt is
> unconditionally enabled as well and will never be disabled again because
> another IOASIC interrupt may be enabled.
> 
> I am simply relying on the assumption that the IOASIC will not generate an
> interrupt if all interrupts are disabled in the IOASIC itself and it seems
> to work.
> 
> ----------
> 
> :-)
> 
> Regards,
> Brad
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Airlie <airlied@csn.ul.ie>
> To: <linux-mips@fnet.fr>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:31 PM
> Subject: query about arch/mips/dec/irq.c (mask & unmask irq)
> 
> >
> > In the DECstation irq.c code
> >
> > mask_irq does
> >     if (dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask) {         /* This is an ASIC
> > interrupt    */
> >         *imr &= ~dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask;
> >         dummy = *imr;
> >         dummy = *imr;
> >     } else                      /* This is a cpu interrupt        */
> >         set_cp0_status(ST0_IM, read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS) &
> > ~dec_interrupt[irq_nr].cpu_mask);
> >
> > and unmask does
> > if (dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask) {         /* This is an ASIC interrupt
> > */
> >         *imr |= dec_interrupt[irq_nr].iemask;
> >         dummy = *imr;
> >         dummy = *imr;
> >     }
> >     set_cp0_status(ST0_IM, read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS) |
> > dec_interrupt[irq_nr].cpu_mask);
> >
> > Note the else in the mask_irq code but not in the unmask, does this matter
> > at all ? or should the else on the other one be there ?
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> > ------------ David Airlie, David.Airlie@ul.ie,airlied@skynet --------
> > Telecommunications Research Centre, ECE Dept, University of Limerick \
> > http://www.csn.ul.ie/~airlied -- Telecommunications Researcher      \
> > --- TEL: +353-61-202695 -----------------------------------------------
> >

-- 
Paul
______________________________________________________________________________
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Hi,

I was looking at the latest linux/MIPS How-To document on 
ftp.linux.sgi.com/cvs/faq written by Ralf which had the instructions on how to 
setup a cross compiler. I have a couple of questions regarding these 
instructions that I hope that someone may have an answer to.

Q1:
===
The instructions asks to download the following source packages:

binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz
binutils-2.8.1-2.diff.gz
egcs-1.0.3a.tar.gz
egcs-1.0.3a-1.diff.gz

glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz


Some patches are also required which are:

binutils-2.8.1-mips.patch
egcs-1.0.3a-mips.patch
glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch


I searched ftp.linux.sgi.com for the above file but I could ONLY find :

binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz

So where can I get the rest of the files from ? A full path into an ftp site 
would be really appreciated.


Q2:
===
I am actually trying to crosscompile the linux/MIPS kernel. To get the sources I 
used the anonymous cvs server from ftp.linux.sgi.com/cvs to checkout the linux 
sources with a linux_2_2 tag which I assumed is a stable version  for 2.2 
kernel. Is that correct ? If not which is the latest linux/MIPS kernel that I 
can get.




Thank you for your help.


Khaled Labib

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> Q1:
> ===
> The instructions asks to download the following source packages:
> 
> binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz
> binutils-2.8.1-2.diff.gz
> egcs-1.0.3a.tar.gz
> egcs-1.0.3a-1.diff.gz
> 
> glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz
> glibc-crypt-2.0.6.tar.gz
> glibc-localedata-2.0.6.tar.gz
> glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.6.tar.gz
> 
> 
> Some patches are also required which are:
> 
> binutils-2.8.1-mips.patch
> egcs-1.0.3a-mips.patch
> glibc-2.0.6-mips.patch
> 
> 
> I searched ftp.linux.sgi.com for the above file but I could ONLY find :
> 
> binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz
> 
> So where can I get the rest of the files from ? A full path into an ftp site 
> would be really appreciated.

The glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz is not to find there.  What you may do is to extract
the binary files from the compiled MIPS RPM package, and install them manually
in your /usr/mips-linux or /usr/local/mips-linux.

Egcs and Binutils are here:

ftp.linux.sgi.com /pub/linux/mips/src/egcs/cross-egcs-1.0.3a-1.src.rpm
ftp.linux.sgi.com /pub/linux/mips/src/binutils/cross-binutils-2.8.1.src.rpm

You may compile the source RPM packages manually if you extract them first
with RPM, or you may compile them automatically with RPM.

> Q2:
> ===
> I am actually trying to crosscompile the linux/MIPS kernel. To get the sources I 
> used the anonymous cvs server from ftp.linux.sgi.com/cvs to checkout the linux 
> sources with a linux_2_2 tag which I assumed is a stable version  for 2.2 
> kernel. Is that correct ? If not which is the latest linux/MIPS kernel that I 
> can get.

It should be the latest if you don't prefer a 2.3 kernel.

Ulf

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On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:58:41PM -0700, Khaled Labib wrote:

> I searched ftp.linux.sgi.com for the above file but I could ONLY find :
> 
> binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz
> 
> So where can I get the rest of the files from ? A full path into an ftp site 
> would be really appreciated.

prep.ai.mit.edu has the other GNU files.  Or, just get the srpm files and
extract the files from them.

  Ralf

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Hi,
	There is some wierd race or something somewhere in the DECStation
interrupt handling, that is becoming apparant on my DS5000/200, no IOASIC,
Turbochannel box...

I have enabled interrupts for the serial driver during the serial
initialisation code, I need to do this for the keyboard later anyways so
I'm doing it as a test now, If I boot the machine I get as far as the scsi
detection bit and it hangs, 

Setting up DZ Keyboard
Copying keyboard tables ...
Entering startup
Finished DZ Keyboard Setup
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 4096K size
SCSI ID 7  Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected
ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use.
scsi0 : ESP236
scsi : 1 host.                                                                 

Hitting the reset button gives me a PC usually in do_IRQ,

If I insert a prom_printf into the dz.c interrupt handler to print a .
every time an interrupt occurs it boots up the machine fine, the SCSI
disks get detected straight away ...

The dots only start printing after the scsi : 1 host piece also, I thought
they would start straight away so I'm missing something here with the
interrupt code ..

Any ideas anyone?

Regards,
	Dave.

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Hi,
	What is the current CVS status? I'm trying to compile it up for a
DS5000/200 R3000 box, At link time I'm getting undefined symbols to do
with emergency_sync ...

Regards,
	Dave.

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eyes down humble apologies .. forgot to get rid of Magic SYSrq. .. doh ...
will wake up and think before question next time :-)

sorry again...

Dave.

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Dave Airlie wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 	What is the current CVS status? I'm trying to compile it up for a
> DS5000/200 R3000 box, At link time I'm getting undefined symbols to do
> with emergency_sync ...
> 
> Regards,
> 	Dave.
> 
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Hi,
	Please find attached a diff for dz.c and dz.h to update them for
2.3 in the CVS tree, these patches are against the CVS tree and also
include my update patch that I sent out earlier this week for 2.2,

Dave.

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Hi,
	I've some more info on my previous hanging problem and my own
workaround for the interrupts, what was happening was the serial console
was interrupting ( I got a prom_printf to the monitor ), over and over
again, and nothing else seemed to be happening, the SCSI interrupts seemed
to get lost somewhere..

So I've turned off the dz transmitter enable for the dz serial console
except when the character is written or the console has been opened ..

seems to work, I get interrupts only for when I should ... still something
wrong somewhere but I'm happy enough with my workaround for now :-)

Dave.

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On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 05:44:00PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:

> 	What is the current CVS status? I'm trying to compile it up for a
> DS5000/200 R3000 box, At link time I'm getting undefined symbols to do
> with emergency_sync ...

Since Harald's recent changes things don't compile anymore, not even for
an Indy.  I'm going to undo them until things are sorted out in a working
manor.

  Ralf

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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Ralf Baechle wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 05:44:00PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:

> > 	What is the current CVS status? I'm trying to compile it up for a
> > DS5000/200 R3000 box, At link time I'm getting undefined symbols to do
> > with emergency_sync ...

> Since Harald's recent changes things don't compile anymore, not even for
> an Indy.  I'm going to undo them until things are sorted out in a working
> manor.

FWIW a checkout at september 8, 1999 compiled with few modifications and a
checkout of an hour ago didn't give any changes. Following are the
modifications to make a kernel compile for a R3000 based DECstation.

Regards,
Richard 

diff -rubN 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/Makefile linux/arch/mips/Makefile
--- 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/Makefile	Wed Sep  8 11:47:24 1999
+++ linux/arch/mips/Makefile	Wed Sep  8 10:49:10 1999
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
 # crossformat linking we rely on the elf2ecoff tool for format conversion.
 #
 CFLAGS		+= -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic
-LINKFLAGS	+= -static -G 0 #-N
+LINKFLAGS	+= -static -G 0 -N
 MODFLAGS	+= -mlong-calls
 
 ifdef CONFIG_REMOTE_DEBUG
diff -rubN 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c linux/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c
--- 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c	Wed Sep  8 13:49:32 1999
+++ linux/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c	Wed Sep  8 10:49:17 1999
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@
  * information is being use to continue the screen output just below
  * the BIOS printed text and with the same text resolution.
  */
-struct screen_info screen_info /*= DEFAULT_SCREEN_INFO*/;
+struct screen_info screen_info = DEFAULT_SCREEN_INFO;
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD
 extern struct fd_ops no_fd_ops;


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Thanks for all your help.

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From: Kamran Karimi <karimi@cs.uregina.ca>
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Hi,

 This is to announce that version 2.0 of DIPC (http://wallybox.cei.net/dipc) 
for Linux is available now. DIPC can be used to build and program clusters 
(multi-computers) very easily, and provides distributed program developers 
with semaphores, messages and Transparent Distributed Shared Memory (DSM).
 
 The following are some of the features in DIPC 2.0:

 *) In addition to i386 and m68k, it now supports PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha and 
    SPARC processors.
 *) There is a considerable speed increase in DIPC's Distributed 
    Shared Memory operations.
 *) The code is SMP-friendly.
 *) Compiles under glibc 2.1 and libc.
 *) Is easily usable on clusters with diskless machines.
 *) DIPC Is GPL, so you can do any modifications you may like, for example
    to adapt it to any custom distributed programming hardware you may have.

 The file dipc-2.0.tgz, containing the complete source code and documents, 
can be obtained by anomymous FTP from wallybox.cei.net, in directory 
/pub/dipc. Alternatively, it can be downloaded from sunsite.unc.edu, in 
/pub/Linux/system/network/distrib.

 Here is DIPC's LSM file:

Begin3
Title:		DIPC (Distributed Inter-Process Communication)
Version:	2.0
Entered-date:	20SEP99
Description:	DIPC enables you to build and program distributed 
                (multi-computer) systems very easily. It works by 
                making System V IPC mechanisms (shared memories, 
                semaphores and messages) network transparent.
Keywords:	distributed parallel programming multi computer cluster 
		kernel shared memory message semaphore RPC IPC DSM WAN 
		network TCP/IP UDP/IP heterogeneous environment
Author:		kamran@wallybox.cei.net (Kamran Karimi)
Maintained-by:	kamran@wallybox.cei.net (Kamran Karimi)
Primary-site:	wallybox.cei.net /pub/dipc
		266kB dipc-2.0.tgz
Alternate-site:	sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/network/distrib
		266kB dipc-2.0.tgz
Platforms:	Linux/i386, Linux/PowerPC, Linux/MIPS, Linux/Alpha, 
		Linux/m68k, Linux/SPARC
Copying-policy:	GPL. Copyright (C) Kamran Karimi
End


 Regards,
          Kamran Karimi

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I'm working on the Linux CE project ( www.linuxce.org and
www.ltc.com/pub/linux-mips/ ) and I really want support for crosscompiling
from Linux x86 to Linux/MIPS using gcc 2.95.  In addition to performance and
code size improvements (20% improvement in dhrystone 2.1), gcc 2.95 supports
targeting the MIPS16 instruction set.

I've placed an interim set of patches for gcc-2.95.1 at
ftp://ftp.place.org/pub/nop/linuxce/gcc-2.95.1-interim-990916.patch.gz .
I'm uncertain about their correctness; however, using binutils
2.8.1+mips-patches, they do successfully build glibc-2.0.7+mips-patches and
the Linux CE dev tree kernel.  I have not extensively tested the binaries
produced.

I don't use a compiler hosted on Linux/MIPS yet, so that's totally untested.
Also, I haven't tried any languages besides C.  I wouldn't be posting this
at all except that I'm about to go semi-offline for a couple of days and I
figured it would be good to share any kind of progress. So what do you get
out of this?  I dunno, maybe a starting place, maybe a waste of time.

Jay

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FYI: I made the same changes here independently to get it compiling ...

Dave.

> 
> Regards,
> Richard 
> 
> diff -rubN 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/Makefile linux/arch/mips/Makefile
> --- 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/Makefile	Wed Sep  8 11:47:24 1999
> +++ linux/arch/mips/Makefile	Wed Sep  8 10:49:10 1999
> @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
>  # crossformat linking we rely on the elf2ecoff tool for format conversion.
>  #
>  CFLAGS		+= -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic
> -LINKFLAGS	+= -static -G 0 #-N
> +LINKFLAGS	+= -static -G 0 -N
>  MODFLAGS	+= -mlong-calls
>  
>  ifdef CONFIG_REMOTE_DEBUG
> diff -rubN 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c linux/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c
> --- 2.3.9-old/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c	Wed Sep  8 13:49:32 1999
> +++ linux/arch/mips/kernel/setup.c	Wed Sep  8 10:49:17 1999
> @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@
>   * information is being use to continue the screen output just below
>   * the BIOS printed text and with the same text resolution.
>   */
> -struct screen_info screen_info /*= DEFAULT_SCREEN_INFO*/;
> +struct screen_info screen_info = DEFAULT_SCREEN_INFO;
>  
>  #ifdef CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD
>  extern struct fd_ops no_fd_ops;
> 
> 

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I've gotten my DS5000/200 DZ-based keyboard kinda working, I can type on
it and the basic characters in capital letters appear on the my console
with the PMAG-BA video driver, 

I was looking at mouse support, but I've just realised that my mouse is
broken, and I've got a red-wire bypass on the block, so mouse support may
take some time ...

Can someone get me an XF86Config file for XF68_FBDev? that works for them?
I just want to see X start :-)

Dave.

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Dave Airlie wrote:

> Can someone get me an XF86Config file for XF68_FBDev? that works for them?
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Sent by personal email because of the size - if someone else is
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Hello,

Does somebody knows if it would be possible to connect a Personal
DECstation's ISDN to a public ISDN network, looking at the hardware side?

Regards,
Richard

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From: Mitchell Blank Jr <mitch@sfgoth.com>
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Richard van den Berg wrote:
> Does somebody knows if it would be possible to connect a Personal
> DECstation's ISDN to a public ISDN network, looking at the hardware side?

First, keep in mind that the built-in ISDN on a PD5000 is 1 B-channel
only and does not have a built-in NT1 (I think).  Second, the PD5000
shipped with a sticker covering the jack so you wouldn't know it was
there - it was never supported under Ultrix.  The rumor I heard was
that DEC fubared the hardware design and found out too late that it
wouldn't work - that could be BS though.  I also heard it's the same
interface chip as the Sparcstation LX used, if you want to research more.

It's been awhile since I ran BSD on my DECstations, but I remember that
OpenBSD detected the device as existing - not sure if it ever could do
anyting with it.

I personally suspect that the answer is "no".  I used to admin a bunch
of those in the heyday of Ultrix, and I never saw nor heard of anyone
making a productive use of that jack.  Even if you could make it work
just for hack-value, a 64K ISDN interface isn't really that exciting.

-Mitch

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 21, 1999 11:17:19 am"
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Hi Mitchell,

> > Does somebody knows if it would be possible to connect a Personal
> > DECstation's ISDN to a public ISDN network, looking at the hardware side?
> 
> First, keep in mind that the built-in ISDN on a PD5000 is 1 B-channel
> only and does not have a built-in NT1 (I think).

That's no problem, just the opposite. In Europe the phone company always 
delivers the NT1, you never get to see the phone wires and the UK0 interface or
whatever they use. Therefore all ISDN devices sold in Europe have an S0 
interface (if they don't have PRI, of course ;-)), not UK0 or something 
like that.

> Even if you could make it work
> just for hack-value, a 64K ISDN interface isn't really that exciting.
 
One again, it's not so bad in Europe. Here in Germany, my ISDN line (BRI) 
costs less than two analog phone lines, so everybody who does serious computer 
stuff uses ISDN. A DECstation with Linux would make a nice Internet Dial-up 
server and firewall, so it's definitely worth a try.     

Ciao, Matthias
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Mitchell Blank Jr wrote:

> It's been awhile since I ran BSD on my DECstations, but I remember that
> OpenBSD detected the device as existing - not sure if it ever could do
> anyting with it.

Just like NetBSD:
isdn at asic0 offset 0x240000 priority 7 not configured

> I personally suspect that the answer is "no".  I used to admin a bunch
> of those in the heyday of Ultrix, and I never saw nor heard of anyone
> making a productive use of that jack.  Even if you could make it work
> just for hack-value, a 64K ISDN interface isn't really that exciting.

It is if you can connect to your ISP for the same on-line rate as a
ordinairy analog modem, what I do every time I'm on-line with an ISDN
card in a 80486.

Regards,
Richard

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Hello Michael,

On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Michael Engel wrote:

> Should be possible - all you need is a NTBA (K0<->S0 bus converter, installed
> by your telco carrier) or an internal S0 bus on your PBX.

Meaning I could plug it in next to my Teles card?

> At least this works with our Sparc LX here which has the same chipset. 

Does that driver runs stable? From 2.3.9 cvs source
drivers/isdn/hisax/amd7930.c: 

 *    - periodic packet loss, apparently due to lost interrupts
 *    - ISDN sometimes freezes, requiring reboot before it will work again
 *
 * The code is unreliable enough to be consider alpha

Time study also something else then math or physics.

Regards,
Richard

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> > First, keep in mind that the built-in ISDN on a PD5000 is 1 B-channel
> > only and does not have a built-in NT1 (I think).
> 
> That's no problem, just the opposite. In Europe the phone company always 
> delivers the NT1, you never get to see the phone wires and the UK0 interface or
> whatever they use. Therefore all ISDN devices sold in Europe have an S0 
> interface (if they don't have PRI, of course ;-)), not UK0 or something 
> like that.

Ah, ok.  Here in the states pretty much anything even remotely modern
has the NT1.  At a previous employer we had some _really_ old ISDN
gear that had external NT1's, but that's the only place I've ever
seen one.

> A DECstation with Linux would make a nice Internet Dial-up 
> server and firewall, so it's definitely worth a try.

Well, best of luck then - maybe you folks will have more luck with
the thing than DEC had :-)  Still, I'm inclined to believe there was
some reason they came with those little stickers over the port...

-Mitch

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>> Even if you could make it work
>> just for hack-value, a 64K ISDN interface isn't really that exciting.
> 
On Sep 21, 20:11, Matthias Heidbrink wrote:
>One again, it's not so bad in Europe. Here in Germany, my ISDN line (BRI) 
[...]

True, European bandwidth is a different world.  Where I work we only 
recently moved from a 64kbit to a 256kbit internet connection, and it's 
costing us blood -- a really small company couldn't have afforded it.
(another point is that until a year or two ago the bloody *backbone* 
wouldn't let you utilise even 64kbit..)

Universities may be a bit spoiled though, but for anybody else 64kbit starts
to feel good :-)

-Tor

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Could somebody of the DECstation people please check if the fix for
sgiserial.c which I checked into CVS last night also is required for it?

  Ralf

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Ralf Baechle wrote:
> 
> Could somebody of the DECstation people please check if the fix for
> sgiserial.c which I checked into CVS last night also is required for it?
>

While I'm not a DECstation guy, I've checked the changes it order to
ensure DECstation zs driver suffers from the problem. Why I'm care of
any changes in the serial drivers is the fact I observe the situation
where my Baget with the Zilog chip running 2.3.9 hangs somewhere in
getty and other Baget with the VAC chip not. 2.2.1 works fine.

Well, the zs driver seems to handle this case. Perhaps, we might remove
that unnecessary check in the zs driver too (hint!), but thinking the zs
driver full of other unnecessary things it's not so urgent. 

Regarding the patch why to not call transmit_chars() instead of manually
feed the chip. transmit_chars makes that in the right way (and wakes up
others levels, if needed, btw).
Also, do you really need setup new value in the junk local variable just
before exit from rs_put_char :-).

Regards,
Gleb.

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Hi,

I've just checked the dz.c driver, and it seems not to suffer from this
problem, 

Regards,
	Dave.

On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Ralf Baechle wrote:

> Could somebody of the DECstation people please check if the fix for
> sgiserial.c which I checked into CVS last night also is required for it?
> 
>   Ralf
> 

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For those who don't read the CVS mailing list - the CVS now has a fix
for the bug recently reported by Kevin Kissel.  Sympthon was that
sending data with O_POST disabled was broken.  This broke various
programs like cu or minicom.

Thanks Kevin!

  Ralf

PS: That's the first contribution by MIPS :-)

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Hi,

Does anybody know when is expected to be finished the X Server for the
Indy?

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> This list gets more and more spam e-mails...
> 
> Can't we do anything ?

yes, set the mailer (e.g., sendmail) to not forward anything
to the list that comes from a unknown source or one that 
doesn't resolve in DNS.  the more recent versions of sendmail
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On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 01:59:48PM +0400, Gleb O. Raiko wrote:

> > Could somebody of the DECstation people please check if the fix for
> > sgiserial.c which I checked into CVS last night also is required for it?
> 
> While I'm not a DECstation guy, I've checked the changes it order to
> ensure DECstation zs driver suffers from the problem. Why I'm care of
> any changes in the serial drivers is the fact I observe the situation
> where my Baget with the Zilog chip running 2.3.9 hangs somewhere in
> getty and other Baget with the VAC chip not. 2.2.1 works fine.
> 
> Well, the zs driver seems to handle this case. Perhaps, we might remove
> that unnecessary check in the zs driver too (hint!), but thinking the zs
> driver full of other unnecessary things it's not so urgent. 
> 
> Regarding the patch why to not call transmit_chars() instead of manually
> feed the chip. transmit_chars makes that in the right way (and wakes up
> others levels, if needed, btw).
> Also, do you really need setup new value in the junk local variable just
> before exit from rs_put_char :-).

The original Sun driver zs.c has received lots of fixes and cleanups.
Somebody may finally want to turn it into a generic driver in order to
keep the plentora of 8530 drivers from further growing ...

  Ralf

From luca@acm.poly.edu  Mon Sep 27 22:50:35 1999
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Hello,

I have a Riscstation 2200 by NEC, running 2 MIPS processors(4400) at 200
MHZ each.  I am having trouble installing Linux MIPS, I have NT loaded.
There is no more support for NT, so I have to instal a supported operating
system.  I also can't find any software for NT on MIPS.

I need some help installing linux mips on this system.  I would like to
have a briefly outlined description for the installation procedure. If
there is some site or web page with detailed instructions on how to
install Linux Mips, I would greatly appreciate having the location.  If
not, I would appreciate any help regarding this issue.

Thank You,
-Lucas

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What is the current wisdom on SA_INTERRUPT?

A comment in signal.h about it says "dummy -- ignored".  Elsewhere it says
that "SA_INTERRUPT is a no-op left for historical reasons".

That certainly doesn't seem to be the case in irq.c.  It appears to be used
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So what is this flag for?  How, when, and why should it be used?

Thanks.

Regards,
Brad

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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard B. Johnson <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Bradley D. LaRonde <brad@ltc.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu>; <linux-mips@fnet.fr>
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> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Bradley D. LaRonde wrote:
>
> > What is the current wisdom on SA_INTERRUPT?
>
> It is unfortunate that the same #define is used for signals and
> for kernel interrupts. They are not related. As you noticed,i
> SA_INTERRUPT with respect to signals is a no-op since it doesn't change
> the nature of signals. However, with respect to IRQ handling within the
> kernel, it does enable interrupts before your possible bottom-half ISR
> is checked to see if it exists and executed.
> See line 726 (about) in ../arch/i386/kernel/irq.c

It looks like it enables interrupts even before the top-half handler is run.

Still, though, I would like to know when/why one should/shouldn't use this
flag.

Regards,
Brad

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Hi Sergey,

slapin@ftp.gis.karelia.ru wrote:
> hi,
> Any ideas about porting NetBSD/pmax bootblocks to linux?
> ideas to install bootblocks without installing NETbsd itself?

I've looked into that a while ago, but the bootblocks are very depending
on several NetBSD kernel libraries (for stand-alone operation), and
they have only ffs filesystem code, not ext2fs.

We seem to have some options:

- Porting NetBSD bootblocks:
   + porting standalone libs to linux/mips
   + changing ufs code to ext2fs

- Porting silo (Sparc two-stage loader)
   + changing sparc assembler code to mips
   + changing sun prom calls to decstation prom calls.

What would be easier?

Regards,
Karel.


-- 
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I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
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K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com wrote:
> We seem to have some options:
> 
> - Porting NetBSD bootblocks:
>    + porting standalone libs to linux/mips
>    + changing ufs code to ext2fs
> 
> - Porting silo (Sparc two-stage loader)
>    + changing sparc assembler code to mips
>    + changing sun prom calls to decstation prom calls.
> 
> What would be easier?

My guess is porting silo, since that would mean working with already
existant linux boot mechanisms.  I guess some of the work done on the
other MIPS cpu ports (like the SGIs) might also be copied for this?

I tried looking at the "TURBOchannel firmware specification" and the
"TURBOchannel SCSI module functional specification" from the web site,
but neither says anything very specific about the SCSI hardware firmware
capabilities.  Pointers?  We have lots of old MIPS hardware and manuals,
I just need to know what to look for.

A completely unrelated question: where would be a good place to upload
some RH6 packages I've compiled for mipsels?

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:

> 
> Hi Sergey,
> 
> slapin@ftp.gis.karelia.ru wrote:
> > hi,
> > Any ideas about porting NetBSD/pmax bootblocks to linux?
> > ideas to install bootblocks without installing NETbsd itself?
> 
> We seem to have some options:
> 
> - Porting NetBSD bootblocks:
>    + porting standalone libs to linux/mips
>    + changing ufs code to ext2fs
> 
> - Porting silo (Sparc two-stage loader)
>    + changing sparc assembler code to mips
>    + changing sun prom calls to decstation prom calls.
> 

Porting LILO
     + changing i386 specific code to mips
     + changing BIOS calls to prom
     + etc?
:)


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I'm having trouble with interrupts that occur during interrupts.  I'm
working on the Vr41xx port.

First, there was this problem that we would lose the timer irq click.  It
just stopped clicking.  /proc/interrupts showed no increase for timer.  It
happend when we pushed lots of data through the serial port.  Mike had an
idea that it might be because of interrupts occurring during other
interrupts.

But why did the timer irq stop clicking?  I could still use the console
w/keyboard on my Clio.  cat /proc/interrupts showed the other irqs clicking,
but not timer.  It was like the timer irq was getting masked.

Hmmmm... I poked around and saw irq.c masking and unmasking in do_IRQ.  I
looked at i386 and couldn't find a similar operation.  So I commented them
out to see if that would fix the mysterious lost timer problem.  It did!
Cool.  I figured the Vr is just finicky and doesn't like to be messed around
with masking/unmasking so much.

But... now a new problem. If all my interrupts are set for SA_INTERRUPT, no
problem.  If I have one that isn't SA_INTERRUPT, problem, since that lets
do_IRQ do __sti.

I wonder - if an interrupt occurs inside do_IRQ, what happens?  Does it come
back to do_IRQ when it's finished?  It should, right?  But if it didn't, it
could have left the timer masked.

I'm also thinking "maybe there is some mips thing going on here".

Any advice?

Regards,
Brad

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On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:12:29AM +0200, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:

> - Porting NetBSD bootblocks:
>    + porting standalone libs to linux/mips
>    + changing ufs code to ext2fs
> 
> - Porting silo (Sparc two-stage loader)
>    + changing sparc assembler code to mips
>    + changing sun prom calls to decstation prom calls.
> 
> What would be easier?

Checkout libext2fs which has everything you're going to need.  Somewhere
on {www,ftp}.linux.sgi.com there is also a bootloader for the Visual
Workstation which demonstrates how to use that library in the absence
of a UNIX environment.

  Ralf

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On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:08:32AM -0400, Bradley D. LaRonde wrote:

> I'm having trouble with interrupts that occur during interrupts.  I'm
> working on the Vr41xx port.
> 
> First, there was this problem that we would lose the timer irq click.  It
> just stopped clicking.  /proc/interrupts showed no increase for timer.  It
> happend when we pushed lots of data through the serial port.  Mike had an
> idea that it might be because of interrupts occurring during other
> interrupts.
> 
> But why did the timer irq stop clicking?  I could still use the console
> w/keyboard on my Clio.  cat /proc/interrupts showed the other irqs clicking,
> but not timer.  It was like the timer irq was getting masked.
> 
> Hmmmm... I poked around and saw irq.c masking and unmasking in do_IRQ.  I
> looked at i386 and couldn't find a similar operation.  So I commented them
> out to see if that would fix the mysterious lost timer problem.  It did!
> Cool.  I figured the Vr is just finicky and doesn't like to be messed around
> with masking/unmasking so much.
> 
> But... now a new problem. If all my interrupts are set for SA_INTERRUPT, no
> problem.  If I have one that isn't SA_INTERRUPT, problem, since that lets
> do_IRQ do __sti.
> 
> I wonder - if an interrupt occurs inside do_IRQ, what happens?  Does it come
> back to do_IRQ when it's finished?  It should, right?  But if it didn't, it
> could have left the timer masked.
> 
> I'm also thinking "maybe there is some mips thing going on here".

When the second interrupt is entered, make sure that it's stack pointer
is loaded correctly.  It should the same as for the first one minus a few
bytes for stackframe and other crappola.

What is the source of your timer interrupt?  Is it the internal cycle
counter?

  Ralf

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> On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:08:32AM -0400, Bradley D. LaRonde wrote:
>
> > I'm having trouble with interrupts that occur during interrupts.  I'm
> > working on the Vr41xx port.
> >
> > First, there was this problem that we would lose the timer irq click.
It
> > just stopped clicking.  /proc/interrupts showed no increase for timer.
It
> > happend when we pushed lots of data through the serial port.  Mike had
an
> > idea that it might be because of interrupts occurring during other
> > interrupts.
> >
> > But why did the timer irq stop clicking?  I could still use the console
> > w/keyboard on my Clio.  cat /proc/interrupts showed the other irqs
clicking,
> > but not timer.  It was like the timer irq was getting masked.
> >
> > Hmmmm... I poked around and saw irq.c masking and unmasking in do_IRQ.
I
> > looked at i386 and couldn't find a similar operation.  So I commented
them
> > out to see if that would fix the mysterious lost timer problem.  It did!
> > Cool.  I figured the Vr is just finicky and doesn't like to be messed
around
> > with masking/unmasking so much.
> >
> > But... now a new problem. If all my interrupts are set for SA_INTERRUPT,
no
> > problem.  If I have one that isn't SA_INTERRUPT, problem, since that
lets
> > do_IRQ do __sti.
> >
> > I wonder - if an interrupt occurs inside do_IRQ, what happens?  Does it
come
> > back to do_IRQ when it's finished?  It should, right?  But if it didn't,
it
> > could have left the timer masked.
> >
> > I'm also thinking "maybe there is some mips thing going on here".
>
> When the second interrupt is entered, make sure that it's stack pointer
> is loaded correctly.  It should the same as for the first one minus a few
> bytes for stackframe and other crappola.

OK, but I thought it would be more than a few bytes since doesn't the first
one push the cpu context onto the stack?

How can I determine the stack pointer for the first and second
(contemporary) interrupts?  100 printks per second sounds a little
overwhelming.


> What is the source of your timer interrupt?  Is it the internal cycle
> counter?

On the Vr41xx it's called RTCLong1.  It feeds though the ICU and out to a
dedicated cpu interrupt (int1 I think).


Regards,
Brad

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Ralf Baechle wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:12:29AM +0200, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:
> 
> > - Porting NetBSD bootblocks:
> >    + porting standalone libs to linux/mips
> >    + changing ufs code to ext2fs
> > 
> > - Porting silo (Sparc two-stage loader)
> >    + changing sparc assembler code to mips
> >    + changing sun prom calls to decstation prom calls.
> > 
> > What would be easier?
> 
> Checkout libext2fs which has everything you're going to need.  Somewhere
> on {www,ftp}.linux.sgi.com there is also a bootloader for the Visual
> Workstation which demonstrates how to use that library in the absence
> of a UNIX environment.

Thanks, but then I have a question: how a bootloading on DECstations
works? so, where do prom finds a bootblock? does it have a direct
knowledge of partitions?


Sergey

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On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:58:46PM -0400, Bradley D. LaRonde wrote:

> OK, but I thought it would be more than a few bytes since doesn't the first
> one push the cpu context onto the stack?
> 
> How can I determine the stack pointer for the first and second
> (contemporary) interrupts?  100 printks per second sounds a little
> overwhelming.

No, but you can add debug code to your interrupt handler which checks that
if the interrupted code was in kernel mode and the current stackpointer is
kernelsp - PT_SIZE, then something is smelly.  Ok rather improbable case
if you're using the standard macros from <asm/stackframe.h> like the
other systems, they should take care of things.

  Ralf

