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Hi folks,

Michael Engel wrote:

> as some of you might know, Karsten Merker and I have been working on
> framebuffer console/keyboard/mouse support for the DECstations during the
> last weeks. Our work is still based on 2.1.131 and also needs lots of
> work but I wanted to give a short status report.

Thanks so much for your status report - perhaps you could also put it up on
the web site.  Reports like these are terrific for everyone, and inspire us
to do some more work on the port :-)

> What works for us now:
> - framebuffer console support for the MAXINE onboard framebuffer (1024x768
>   with 8 bit color depth)
> - Access.Bus keyboard and mouse (LK501 and VSXXX-BB/GB) - mostly. There seems
>   to be some packet loss on the Bus left ... sometimes the mouse jumps ...
> - PMAG-BA rudimentary support (color map still garbled, black text on pink
>   background ;-)) - since yesterday evening ;-)

...you could set a whole new ergonomic standard with black text on pink
background ;-)

> - framebuffer X11 3.3.2 (?) server works with both graphics adapters

Yay!

> What I'm currently working on:
> - integrating the code in 2.2.1
> - eliminating the packet loss on Access.Bus
> - keyboard/mouse driver for non-AccessBus (zs/dz-based) DECstations
> - support for the PMAGB-B graphics card
> - non US keyboard mappings
> 
> Sorry, no patch yet but I promise to publish one as soon as I get the
> code running with 2.2.1.

It's always a struggle to keep up with kernel releases when you're doing a
big piece of development.  I'm sure we're all willing to be patient :-)_

> Any ideas what else to support are welcome. No, I don't have any docs on
> the PMAG-E and -F ;-).

I don't think anyone does... though I remember someone posting something
about one of these way back in the past...
 
> Additionally, we had the idea to run decstation.unix-ag.org on a
> DECstation running Linux as this would be a nice real-world test (it's
> currently running on a Pentium-166 with FreeBSD). This should also
> happen this week and - of course - I'll also bring the web pages up
> to date (finally ... sorry, I had to get my mathematics diploma - this
> was unfortunately more important ;-)).

Congratulations!

Regards,
Paul
______________________________________________________________________________
Paul M. Antoine                                 Millennium Engineering Pty Ltd
email: paul@milleng.com.au                              Phone: +61 2 9560 7331
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From Matthew.Zywusko@compaq.com  Tue Jun  1 18:45:45 1999
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Hi there,
	A friend of mine and I used to work for NEC Computer Services
Division as QA Test Engineers and happen to have a few NEC RISCServers lying
around (some being used as kitchen tables). We were wondering if you might
need a couple of people who own some NEC R96B/R98 RISCServers to perform
some tasks to help with the port. They are multiprocessor machines from the
R4000 series of MIPS processors. 


							Thanks,
							Matt Zywusko

From engel@math.uni-siegen.de  Wed Jun  2 03:18:05 1999
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Hey, found more time to work on the DECstation kernel so ...
a short status update:

- the colors on the PMAG-BA look like I expect them now ;-)
- the fb device driver seems to work nicely with 2.2.1 on my 5000/150 here
- Maxine is not yet tested
- I'm working on support for keyboard and mouse on the zs
  (just got the first interrupt from the mouse ... but I wanted one from
   the keyboard ;-)

regards,
	Michael

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I have been successfully using the gcc 2.7.2 i386 hosted MIPS cross 
compiler from ftp.linux.sgi.com to port Linux to a proprietary MIPS-based 
device.

Looking ahead, I may need a C++ compiler to build applications for the 
device, for which I assume I can use g++ 2.7.2. However, I can't seem to 
find a libstdc++ on the ftp site. Is it simply a case of recompiling the library 
using the cross-compiler? Has anyone successfully done this?

Sorry for such a basic question, I'm quite new to this.

Matt Goss-Custard
Cognito Ltd.

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Michael Engel writes:
>
>Karels precompiled kernel almost works for me - except that I never
>get any output on the serial console, but the root fs gets mounted via
>NFS (I can see it in the logs ...). I'm using Karsten Merkers 
>egcs/bintuils RPMS from bolug.uni-bonn.de, may there be a problem with
>these and the R4000 ? R3000 kernels compile fine ...
>
>regards,
>	Michael
>

My declinuxroot (the -current) works OK for R4000 systems. For R[23]000
systems you should install Dave's util-linux package BEFORE going multi-user.

I've tried that on a 3100, a 5000/150, and a 5000/260. My 5000/240
still resists booting.

See my web-pages for details.

Regards,
Karel.

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Hello Matt.

On 02-Jun-99 MIPS wrote:
> I have been successfully using the gcc 2.7.2 i386 hosted MIPS cross 
> compiler from ftp.linux.sgi.com to port Linux to a proprietary
> MIPS-based device.

As you might know I've already been in contact with Bill Melotti and Steve
Alderson in that matter.

Would you mind to share your patches with us? I am quite confident that at
least the people on linuxce-devel@linuxce.org would be forever thankful :-)

Actually, I am already working on a code cleanup to commit my R3000
patches to the CVS and taking a few patches more into consideration
wouldn't cause much more work :-)

---
Regards,
Harald

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Hi all,

Hagen has problems with his 260. It seems to panic during bootp.
Has anyone seen this before? Or even has a hint for a solution?

Regards,
Karel.

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Hi,

following your instructions how to boot a DECstation 5000/260 with your
LINUX-Kernel"vmlinux-decR4k.ecoff" i got following error message:

*********************************************************************************
**********************
KN05 V2.1k    (PC: 0x80064684, SP: 0x87ffbcd8)
3/prcache                     3/prcache(14)  * * *
?RST

- -tftp boot(3), bootp .. 193.17.138.81:/tftpboot/vmlinux-decR4k.ecoff
- -tftp load  1239984 +0 +124128
This DECstation is a DS5000/2x0
Loading R4000 MMU routines.
CPU revision is: 00000440
Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Primary data cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 32
Linux version 2.2.1 (root@elrond) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2
release)) #2 Sun May 23 11:29:22 MEST 1999
Calibrating delay loop... 59.90 BogoMIPS
Memory: 128160k/131068k available (1080k kernel code, 1540k data)
Checking for 'wait' instruction...  unavailable.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 25.0 MHz (no parity)
    slot 0: DEC      PMAD-AA  V5.3a
    slot 1: DEC      PMAZ-AA  V5.3d
    slot 2: DEC      PMAZ-AA  V5.3d
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5
DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03
tty00 at 0xbf900001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
tty01 at 0xbf900009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
tty02 at 0xbf980001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
tty03 at 0xbf980009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
loop: registered device at major 7
SCSI ID 7  Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected
ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use.
scsi0 : ESP236
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: DEC       Model: RZ26     (C) DEC  Rev: 392A
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
  Vendor: DEC       Model: RZ26     (C) DEC  Rev: 392A
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: DEC       Model: RRD42   (C) DEC   Rev: 4.5d
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
  Vendor: DEC       Model: TLZ06     (C)DEC  Rev: 0491
  Type:   Sequential-Access                  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 2 SCSI disks total.
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/0x caddy
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.52
esp0: target 0 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2050860 [1001 MB] [1.0 GB]
esp0: target 1 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2050860 [1001 MB] [1.0 GB]
declance.c: v0.008 by Linux Mips DECstation task force
eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:39:bb:25, irq = 3
eth1: PMAD-AA, addr = 08:00:2b:3c:95:7f, irq = 5
Sending BOOTP requests...<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
address 00000000, epc == 8010837c, ra == 801090b8
Oops: 0001
$0 : 00000000 10010c00 0000ffff 00000017
$4 : 00000000 802d4e04 00000196 00000017
$8 : 0000ffff 8012c9e8 00000006 80173ca8
$12: 00000001 00000001 80160000 802d4e02
$16: be000000 802de000 8016d110 802d5040
$20: 00000000 10010c01 be100000 80140000
$24: 00000001 10010c01
$28: 87ffa000 87ffbe28 80140000 801090b8
epc   : 8010837c
Status: 10010c02
Cause : 1000000c
Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=87ffa000)
Stack: 10010c01 00000015 80130000 00000f00 802d5040 87fe84a0 8016d110 8016d178
       00000000 00000f00 80160000 800c9bf8 802d5040 00000015 000001b0 80170000
       87fe84a0 802d5040 80180000 800c5154 802d4e10 802d5040 8016d110 8016d178
       802d4e10 802d5040 8016d110 801545e4 00000000 8013b8d9 87ffbd48 00001003
       8016d178 00000188 87fea520 00000000 80160000 00000001 00000e31 80154650
       80140000 ...
Call Trace: [<80130000>] [<800c9bf8>] [<800c5154>] [<8013b8d9>] [<80140000>]
[<801041e8>] [<8013b8bc>] [<8013b8dc>] [<8013b8e4>] [<8013b8e4>] [<80140000>]
[<8004816c>] [<80140000>] [<80049eec>] [<8004816c>] [<8004816c>] [<80048180>]
[<80049efc>] [<80140000>] [<80049eec>]
Code: 24e3ffff  00603821  3063ffff <a4820000> 24840002  94a20000  24a50002
a4820000  24840002
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
*********************************************************************************
**********************

Could you help me ?

Regards

Hagen Schubert




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-- 
Karel van Houten

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The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better."
I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
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The fact that is has two network interfaces is probably the problem I
would think, the PMAD-AA is not supported in the standard kernel, and
requires my version of the dec_esp driver, however the first interface
would then probably crash :-), there is still some work to try merge the
two drivers ...

Dave.

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Hagen has problems with his 260. It seems to panic during bootp.
> Has anyone seen this before? Or even has a hint for a solution?
> 
> Regards,
> Karel.
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message
> 
> Hi,
> 
> following your instructions how to boot a DECstation 5000/260 with your
> LINUX-Kernel"vmlinux-decR4k.ecoff" i got following error message:
> 
> *********************************************************************************
> **********************
> KN05 V2.1k    (PC: 0x80064684, SP: 0x87ffbcd8)
> 3/prcache                     3/prcache(14)  * * *
> ?RST
> 
> - -tftp boot(3), bootp .. 193.17.138.81:/tftpboot/vmlinux-decR4k.ecoff
> - -tftp load  1239984 +0 +124128
> This DECstation is a DS5000/2x0
> Loading R4000 MMU routines.
> CPU revision is: 00000440
> Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
> Primary data cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
> Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 32
> Linux version 2.2.1 (root@elrond) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2
> release)) #2 Sun May 23 11:29:22 MEST 1999
> Calibrating delay loop... 59.90 BogoMIPS
> Memory: 128160k/131068k available (1080k kernel code, 1540k data)
> Checking for 'wait' instruction...  unavailable.
> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 25.0 MHz (no parity)
>     slot 0: DEC      PMAD-AA  V5.3a
>     slot 1: DEC      PMAZ-AA  V5.3d
>     slot 2: DEC      PMAZ-AA  V5.3d
> Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
> Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
> NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
> NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
> Starting kswapd v 1.5
> DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03
> tty00 at 0xbf900001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
> tty01 at 0xbf900009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
> tty02 at 0xbf980001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
> tty03 at 0xbf980009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
> loop: registered device at major 7
> SCSI ID 7  Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected
> ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use.
> scsi0 : ESP236
> scsi : 1 host.
>   Vendor: DEC       Model: RZ26     (C) DEC  Rev: 392A
>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
>   Vendor: DEC       Model: RZ26     (C) DEC  Rev: 392A
>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
>   Vendor: DEC       Model: RRD42   (C) DEC   Rev: 4.5d
>   Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
>   Vendor: DEC       Model: TLZ06     (C)DEC  Rev: 0491
>   Type:   Sequential-Access                  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 2 SCSI disks total.
> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/0x caddy
> Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.52
> esp0: target 0 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
> SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2050860 [1001 MB] [1.0 GB]
> esp0: target 1 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI]
> SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2050860 [1001 MB] [1.0 GB]
> declance.c: v0.008 by Linux Mips DECstation task force
> eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:39:bb:25, irq = 3
> eth1: PMAD-AA, addr = 08:00:2b:3c:95:7f, irq = 5
> Sending BOOTP requests...<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
> address 00000000, epc == 8010837c, ra == 801090b8
> Oops: 0001
> $0 : 00000000 10010c00 0000ffff 00000017
> $4 : 00000000 802d4e04 00000196 00000017
> $8 : 0000ffff 8012c9e8 00000006 80173ca8
> $12: 00000001 00000001 80160000 802d4e02
> $16: be000000 802de000 8016d110 802d5040
> $20: 00000000 10010c01 be100000 80140000
> $24: 00000001 10010c01
> $28: 87ffa000 87ffbe28 80140000 801090b8
> epc   : 8010837c
> Status: 10010c02
> Cause : 1000000c
> Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=87ffa000)
> Stack: 10010c01 00000015 80130000 00000f00 802d5040 87fe84a0 8016d110 8016d178
>        00000000 00000f00 80160000 800c9bf8 802d5040 00000015 000001b0 80170000
>        87fe84a0 802d5040 80180000 800c5154 802d4e10 802d5040 8016d110 8016d178
>        802d4e10 802d5040 8016d110 801545e4 00000000 8013b8d9 87ffbd48 00001003
>        8016d178 00000188 87fea520 00000000 80160000 00000001 00000e31 80154650
>        80140000 ...
> Call Trace: [<80130000>] [<800c9bf8>] [<800c5154>] [<8013b8d9>] [<80140000>]
> [<801041e8>] [<8013b8bc>] [<8013b8dc>] [<8013b8e4>] [<8013b8e4>] [<80140000>]
> [<8004816c>] [<80140000>] [<80049eec>] [<8004816c>] [<8004816c>] [<80048180>]
> [<80049efc>] [<80140000>] [<80049eec>]
> Code: 24e3ffff  00603821  3063ffff <a4820000> 24840002  94a20000  24a50002
> a4820000  24840002
> Aiee, killing interrupt handler
> *********************************************************************************
> **********************
> 
> Could you help me ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Hagen Schubert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------- End of Forwarded Message
> 
> 
> -- 
> Karel van Houten
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better."
> I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 

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Hello Karel,

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:

> Hagen has problems with his 260. It seems to panic during bootp.
> Has anyone seen this before? Or even has a hint for a solution?

[snipped most of boot messages]

> eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:39:bb:25, irq = 3
> eth1: PMAD-AA, addr = 08:00:2b:3c:95:7f, irq = 5
> Sending BOOTP requests...<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
> address 00000000, epc == 8010837c, ra == 801090b8

Karel do you have the System.map from that kernel and which functions
these addresses indicate? Unplugging the PMAD to see if that works would
be a first workaround I try.

Regards,
Richard

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From: Karel van Houten <K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Trouble in booting my DECstation 5000/260
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Richard wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:
> 
> > Hagen has problems with his 260. It seems to panic during bootp.
> > Has anyone seen this before? Or even has a hint for a solution?
> 
> [snipped most of boot messages]
> 
> > eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:39:bb:25, irq = 3
> > eth1: PMAD-AA, addr = 08:00:2b:3c:95:7f, irq = 5
> > Sending BOOTP requests...<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
> > address 00000000, epc == 8010837c, ra == 801090b8
> 
> Karel do you have the System.map from that kernel and which functions
> these addresses indicate? Unplugging the PMAD to see if that works would
> be a first workaround I try.

Mmm. I'm afraid a can't reproduce the System.map. That reminds me
that I should upload a System.map file together with kernel binaries.

When there is a reason to upgrade the binaries, I'll will upload the
maps too. I'm hoping Harald can integrate Dave SCSI support. I would like
to see my TC SCSI card working, as well as the 2100/3100 onboard SCSI.

Regards,
-- 
Karel van Houten

----------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better."
I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
----------------------------------------------------------

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Hi,

oops .. wrong driver I specified :-).... it requires my version of
declance.c to work for the Ethernet .. the oops is caused by some memory
allocation not done, to get around the oops you can just take the
lance_init from my declance.c (sent to list a while back) and it should
then boot without the oops ..

Dave.

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Karel van Houten wrote:

> Richard wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:
> > 
> > > Hagen has problems with his 260. It seems to panic during bootp.
> > > Has anyone seen this before? Or even has a hint for a solution?
> > 
> > [snipped most of boot messages]
> > 
> > > eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:39:bb:25, irq = 3
> > > eth1: PMAD-AA, addr = 08:00:2b:3c:95:7f, irq = 5
> > > Sending BOOTP requests...<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual
> > > address 00000000, epc == 8010837c, ra == 801090b8
> > 
> > Karel do you have the System.map from that kernel and which functions
> > these addresses indicate? Unplugging the PMAD to see if that works would
> > be a first workaround I try.
> 
> Mmm. I'm afraid a can't reproduce the System.map. That reminds me
> that I should upload a System.map file together with kernel binaries.
> 
> When there is a reason to upgrade the binaries, I'll will upload the
> maps too. I'm hoping Harald can integrate Dave SCSI support. I would like
> to see my TC SCSI card working, as well as the 2100/3100 onboard SCSI.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Karel van Houten
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better."
> I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 

------------ David Airlie, David.Airlie@ul.ie,airlied@skynet --------
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Hi all,

On 21-May-99 Richard van den Berg wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is it known that using a swap partition is a no go on DECstations,
> garanteed to halt the system? It looks like that a swapped out process
> doesn't get swapped back, for example a telnet session unused for a
> while becomes dead. Compiling kernel or egcs the machine halts within
> the hour silently, or that the compiler receives a fatal signal as the
> last message.

Does the attached patch help?

---
Regards,
Harald

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--- development/clean/linux/arch/mips/mm/r2300.c	Fri Apr 16 20:00:38 1999
+++ linux/arch/mips/mm/r2300.c	Thu Jun  3 22:07:42 1999
@@ -414,6 +407,30 @@
 		p += 64;
 	}
 
+	/* isolate cache space */
+	write_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_STATUS, (ST0_DE|ST0_CE|flags)&~ST0_IEC);
+
+	for (i = 0; i < size; i += 64) {
+		asm ( 	"sb\t$0,(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,4(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,8(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,12(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,16(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,20(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,24(%0)\n\t"
+			"sb\t$0,28(%0)\n\t"
+ 		        "sb\t$0,32(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,36(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,40(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,44(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,48(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,52(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,56(%0)\n\t"
+ 			"sb\t$0,60(%0)\n\t"
+			: : "r" (p) );
+		p += 64;
+	}
+
 	restore_flags(flags);
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To: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>
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		<199905280739.IAA00259@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> 
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In message <199905280739.IAA00259@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Dominic
Sweetman writes: 
: Some people at NECEL are keen to see Linux up and running on some of
: their products, which might include evaluation boards and PDAs, with
: CPUs from the tiny ones used in hand-helds (Vr41x1) to relatively big
: ones being touted for high-end embedded (Vr54xx).

You might want to forward this to the LinuxCE folks at
	linuxce-devel@linuxce.org

: At this stage NECEL's support is likely to be moral rather than
: financial; but they should be good for loan hardware and access to
: documentation - which is often a problem with companies as large and
: complex as NEC.  And if pilot work is successful, they might want to
: spend money later.

Too bad my MobilePro 400 and 450 died.  don't have any other NEC
machines, although I do have a Everex E-10 with a Vr4102 in it.

There is also an effort to get NetBSD ported to NEC's MobileGear II
machines.  You can read about it at:
	http://www.jp.netbsd.org/ja/JP/Project/hpcmips/
They have a bootloader that will boot an ELF kernel off a FAT CF
card.  Plus NetBSD is booting to a fairly advanced stage.

I have also tried to catalog all the PDAs that are mips based at
	http://www.freebsd.org/~imp/pdamips.html
as well as links to various web sources of information from datasheets
to WinCE.

Warner

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Hello

MFA of Estonia currently possesses an Siemens Nixdorf RM300 box, with a
R4600/R4400 processor. It currently runs SINIX V5.42, but I personally
dislike this old UNIX and would love to run modern Linux on it. 

By checking the http://lena.fnet.fr/, I fount to my dissappointment, that
linux/MIPS doesn't yet run on it. Could you please tell me, if there is a
big difference between RM200 and RM300 or is the difference in cards ? 

I think we cannot lend you the machine to port Linux to it, but I think I
could help you in some other ways (ftp mirror, testing the port, ...). Is
there anything I could do for helping the RM300 ? 

Aivo Kalu, network administrator, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Ravala pst. 9, Tallinn, 15049, Estonia
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On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 10:21:58PM +0200, Aivo Kalu wrote:

> MFA of Estonia currently possesses an Siemens Nixdorf RM300 box, with a
> R4600/R4400 processor. It currently runs SINIX V5.42, but I personally
> dislike this old UNIX and would love to run modern Linux on it. 
> 
> By checking the http://lena.fnet.fr/, I fount to my dissappointment, that
> linux/MIPS doesn't yet run on it. Could you please tell me, if there is a
> big difference between RM200 and RM300 or is the difference in cards ? 

These pages are _outdated_.

> I think we cannot lend you the machine to port Linux to it, but I think I
> could help you in some other ways (ftp mirror, testing the port, ...). Is
> there anything I could do for helping the RM300 ? 

I assume you have the RM300 version with EISA and PCI slots?  Other, older
versions are not supported.

The RM300 is basically identiac with the RM200, so basically Linux *should*
run on it but I never received any reports.

  Ralf

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Hi all,


Harald wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On 21-May-99 Richard van den Berg wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Is it known that using a swap partition is a no go on DECstations,
> > garanteed to halt the system? It looks like that a swapped out process
> > doesn't get swapped back, for example a telnet session unused for a
> > while becomes dead. Compiling kernel or egcs the machine halts within
> > the hour silently, or that the compiler receives a fatal signal as the
> > last message.
> 
> Does the attached patch help?
> 
> ---
> Regards,
> Harald

I've tried to reproduce the swap problem on my 260, but after allocating
and using 250Mb RAM, all processes paged in quite happily.
It looks like Haralds patch is R[23]k specific. That makes sense.

Has someone tested Haralds patch? If so, please let me know, I'll update
my kernel images.

Regards.
-- 
Karel van Houten

----------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better."
I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
----------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:54:16 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Richard van den Berg <R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net>
To: Harald Koerfgen <Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de>
Subject: RE: swapspace on DECstations?

Hello Harald,

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Harald Koerfgen wrote:

> > Is it known that using a swap partition is a no go on DECstations,
> > garanteed to halt the system? It looks like that a swapped out process
> > doesn't get swapped back, for example a telnet session unused for a
> > while becomes dead. Compiling kernel or egcs the machine halts within
> > the hour silently, or that the compiler receives a fatal signal as the
> > last message.

> Does the attached patch help?

Unfortunatly not, activating swap makes the system still halt after a
5 minutes when swap is being used with `make -j 5 boot`.

Regards,
Richard

--------------End of forwarded message-------------------------

I am trying to reproduce the problem on my /133 but it looks as if my RZ26
is dying :-(

I got tons of read error messages and am actually low level formatting it,
so this may take a while.

---
Regards,
Harald

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Hi Karel,

On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Karel van Houten wrote:

[...]

> I've tried to reproduce the swap problem on my 260, but after allocating
> and using 250Mb RAM, all processes paged in quite happily.
> It looks like Haralds patch is R[23]k specific. That makes sense.

If I only had a R4k module...

> Has someone tested Haralds patch? If so, please let me know, I'll update
> my kernel images.

I've tested the patch and it didn't improve the situation.

Regards,
Richard

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Hello,

Is there someone out there who has a stable kernel for a R3k DECstation?
With stable I mean that it can sustain this little script:

#!/bin/sh

cd <linux source dir>

for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10;
do date > ~/compile.$i;
make clean >> ~/compile.$i 2>&1;
nice -n 19 make -j 10 boot >> ~/compile.$i 2>&1;
date >> ~/compile.$i;
uptime >> ~/compile.$i; 
done

The kernels I tried are build with cross-gcc 2.7.2, cross-egcs 1.0.2 and
native egcs 1.0.2-9 (rpm from ftp.linux.sgi.com) and binutils 2.8.1. I
also tried Karels kernel. They all let the system silently die. This is
without using swap. Or am I asking something impossible?

Regards,
Richard

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Hi,

> Is there someone out there who has a stable kernel for a R3k DECstation?
> With stable I mean that it can sustain this little script:

[...]

I'll try your script in a minute on my 5000/33.

> The kernels I tried are build with cross-gcc 2.7.2, cross-egcs 1.0.2 and
> native egcs 1.0.2-9 (rpm from ftp.linux.sgi.com) and binutils 2.8.1.

I used Karstens utils from ftp.bolug.uni-bonn.de. I had the Maxine running
X11 for some hours now but that's surely not comparable to doing lots
of compiling stuff.

> I also tried Karels kernel. They all let the system silently die. This is
> without using swap. Or am I asking something impossible?

I have another problem (which is also confirmed by Karsten) - sometimes
the native ld dies with signal 11. Upon reboot or after waiting for a
small while all seems to be ok again. I don't suspect it's a hardware
problem as the rest of the systems behaves quite well ...

regards,
	Michael

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Hello,

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Michael Engel wrote:

[...]

> I have another problem (which is also confirmed by Karsten) - sometimes
> the native ld dies with signal 11. Upon reboot or after waiting for a
> small while all seems to be ok again. I don't suspect it's a hardware
> problem as the rest of the systems behaves quite well ...

Yes, I compiled and run tin succesfully, another system for the buildlist
of tin.

Regards,
Richard

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Hallo everyone,

just for your information: I have uploaded an additional set of
.mipsel.rpms to ftp://bolug.uni-bonn.de/pub/mips/. Most of them are built
from the RH60-sources, but against glibc 2.0.7. In addition, in the
"contrib"-directory you can find a few packages I just found useful. All
packages should work with the standard declinuxroot-fs.

Greetings,
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Hi Karel,

Sorry to have not communicated for awhile, but family life has been
busy...

I would like to report that the last release of the root system, along
with Dave Airlie's util-linux works almost perfectly on my DECstation
5000/25.  I even got ambitious enough to try to compile the kernel on
this machine and hook up a DAT drive.  

All problems that I listed before are solved now, to whit:

fdisk, cfdisk and vipw all work, and I have been able to hook 
up a daisy chain of SCSI drives and create and populate new file
systems on them.  I haven't tried the NetBSD bootblocks yet, but
as I'm a fan of this OS, I'll try it soon.

The system goes directly into multiuser mode without a hitch.  However,
it's still easier to log in remotely, rather than on the console.  
This is not a problem for me, but I should report that the direct
console login still requires a lot of break key hits, and even then
it sometimes misses the login, and you have to try again.  This could
be machine-specific however.  I've got several models of these /25's,
and they all act slightly differently.  One of them won't even let
me use the serial console, but spews out constant garbage.

However, I think I can help a bit with your missing row of the table
on the install.html page.  I'm doing "setenv console s", and to get
into single user mode "boot 3/tftp console=ttyS0 single rw".  There
is only one serial port on the back, and it's marked like the other
5000 series.  The boot seems to work whether or not I give the 
console=ttyS0 argument, maybe due to the fact that this is the 
only tty.

I have an HP35470a DAT drive that I'd like to try to hook up to this
machine, but the kernel I first compiled on my Intel didn't have 
SCSI tape support, and I wanted to try doing the kernel this time on 
the Maxine.  I've followed your latest instructions, and everything 
seems to be working.  She's 45 minutes into the compile, and still
chomping.  I'll let you know the results.  

Good work guys,

Doug




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> 5000/25.  I even got ambitious enough to try to compile the kernel on
> this machine and hook up a DAT drive.  
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AFAIK the SCSI-driver still has problems with tape drives (Harald?), so do
not wonder if you can only read garbage from the tape.

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Richard van den Berg wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is there someone out there who has a stable kernel for a R3k DECstation?
> With stable I mean that it can sustain this little script:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> cd <linux source dir>
> 
> for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10;
> do date > ~/compile.$i;
> make clean >> ~/compile.$i 2>&1;
> nice -n 19 make -j 10 boot >> ~/compile.$i 2>&1;
> date >> ~/compile.$i;
> uptime >> ~/compile.$i;
> done
> 
> The kernels I tried are build with cross-gcc 2.7.2, cross-egcs 1.0.2 and
> native egcs 1.0.2-9 (rpm from ftp.linux.sgi.com) and binutils 2.8.1. I
> also tried Karels kernel. They all let the system silently die. This is
> without using swap. Or am I asking something impossible?
> 
> Regards,
> Richard


Hi, Richard !

Please sorry if this reply is not what you are waiting for, but 
your script is so pretty that we have tested it during last night on 
our Baget (MIPS R3000 BE, 16MB RAM diskless computer). 
Saying 'virtual memory exhausted' (script invokes 10 compilers in parallel)
our system (RedHat 5.2 from 'roughcuts CD' which we just installed yesterday)
looks today quite alive and happy :-)
It indirectly shows that reason your are looking for is probably 
located outside of shared code for all R3Ks.

Best wishes,
Vladimir.

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Is it even remotely Possible?
If so how can I help?
Thanks
Ed Dixon


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I would suggest that you go have a look at http://www.linuxce.org/ and
also at my web pages at http://www.cotw.com/projects/nino/port as I
am working on a MIPS port of the kernel to MIPS based PDA/PPC devices.
I am currently in heavy development of the Linux bootloader.

-Steve

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I have a DECstation Personal 5000 as well as a DECsystem 5500 that I would
like to run Linux on. I am able to assist in any way possible, tho I am not
a high-end programmer. Also, if you need something tested, I am more than
willing to help.


			-tony

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From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net  Tue Jun  8 19:35:09 1999
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Anthony Joint wrote:

> I have a DECstation Personal 5000 as well as a DECsystem 5500 that I would
> like to run Linux on. I am able to assist in any way possible, tho I am not
> a high-end programmer. Also, if you need something tested, I am more than
> willing to help.

Up to date info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/
A lot of info: http://decstation.unix-ag.org/
Short info: http://web.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/mips/

Several people among others me have Linux running on a Personal
DECstation, which version do you have? A /50 means that you have a R4000
cpu.

No support for the 5500.

Regards,
Richard

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Hello Vladimir,

On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Vladimir A. Roganov wrote:

> Please sorry if this reply is not what you are waiting for, but 
> your script is so pretty that we have tested it during last night on 
> our Baget (MIPS R3000 BE, 16MB RAM diskless computer). 
> Saying 'virtual memory exhausted' (script invokes 10 compilers in parallel)
> our system (RedHat 5.2 from 'roughcuts CD' which we just installed yesterday)
> looks today quite alive and happy :-)

Congratulations.

> It indirectly shows that reason your are looking for is probably 
> located outside of shared code for all R3Ks.

Thank you for your reply, it gives some direction.

Regards,
Richard

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In message <199906081155.GAA22218@home.plutonium.net>
sjhill@home.plutonium.net writes: 
: I would suggest that you go have a look at http://www.linuxce.org/ and
: also at my web pages at http://www.cotw.com/projects/nino/port as I
: am working on a MIPS port of the kernel to MIPS based PDA/PPC devices.
: I am currently in heavy development of the Linux bootloader.

I'd also suggest looking at
	http://www.jp.netbsd.org/ja/JP/Project/hpcmips/
for a NetBSD port to the Vr41xx series of chips.  They have a
bootloader that I think Steve modifying to compile/work in a Linux
environment.

Warner

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Hi,

I've been compiling a lot today on the Decstation 5000/25, and I've
noticed some strange behavior.  For a few hours after I boot the 
machine, I can telnet in just fine.  However, at some point, it
starts to refuse logins, and no message is put in either /var/log/messages
or in /var/log/secure, as to why the login is refused.

I get as far as:

Escape character is '^]'
Connection closed by foreign host.  

After rebooting, of course, the problem goes away for several hours.  

Has anyone else noticed this behavior?

Doug



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Hello Doug,

On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Douglas S. Meade wrote:

> I've been compiling a lot today on the Decstation 5000/25, and I've
> noticed some strange behavior.  For a few hours after I boot the 
> machine, I can telnet in just fine.  However, at some point, it
> starts to refuse logins, and no message is put in either /var/log/messages
> or in /var/log/secure, as to why the login is refused.

Put on load and memory eating processes enable a swappartition and it
happens in 10 minutes. Get ready for bug hunting. 

> I get as far as:
> 
> Escape character is '^]'
> Connection closed by foreign host.  
> 
> After rebooting, of course, the problem goes away for several hours.  
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this behavior?

Think everybody on a R3k DECstation who has tried my little script I
posted earlier (Subject: Stable R3k DECstation kernel?). 

Regards,
Richard


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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Richard van den Berg wrote:

> Hello Doug,
> 
> On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Douglas S. Meade wrote:
> 
> Put on load and memory eating processes enable a swappartition and it
> happens in 10 minutes. Get ready for bug hunting. 
> 
> Think everybody on a R3k DECstation who has tried my little script I
> posted earlier (Subject: Stable R3k DECstation kernel?). 

OK, now I tried it too.  I see.

Here's a question about compile flags.  I'd like to port a little program
called cftp, which is a very convenient ftp client for Linux.  I tried
to get it working with ./configure && make && make install, and it 
compiles, but doesn't quite work right, asking me for passwords to 
anonymous sites, even though they are in the .cftprc file.  Should 
I add the "-mcpu=r3000 -mips1" flags to the makefile, or is something
else likely necessary to get it to work on the DECstations.  I guess
the general question I'm asking is: what has to be done to port a 
program from Intel Redhat Linux 5.1 to mipsel Redhat?

Doug


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The cool hack of the year award would go to someone that could make
Linux (or any OSS-OS) run on the ABIO.

http://www.sony.co.jp/Welcome/waibo_sdot.html

Warner

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Cc: Richard van den Berg <R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net>, linux-mips@fnet.fr
Subject: Re: DS5000/25
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On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 09:00:27PM -0400, Douglas S. Meade wrote:

> OK, now I tried it too.  I see.
> 
> Here's a question about compile flags.  I'd like to port a little program
> called cftp, which is a very convenient ftp client for Linux.  I tried
> to get it working with ./configure && make && make install, and it 
> compiles, but doesn't quite work right, asking me for passwords to 
> anonymous sites, even though they are in the .cftprc file.  Should 
> I add the "-mcpu=r3000 -mips1" flags to the makefile, or is something
> else likely necessary to get it to work on the DECstations.

That's actually all stuff documented in the gcc info pages ...

-mips1 is the compiler default.  -mcpu=<cpu> does instruction scheduling
optimal for <cpu>.  -mcpu however does not choose any instructions that
are not part of the current isa, that is MIPS1 in that case.  So for
example -mcpu=r8000 -mips1 will generate code optimized for the r8000
but still usable on MIPS 1 like R3000.

> I guess the general question I'm asking is: what has to be done to port a 
> program from Intel Redhat Linux 5.1 to mipsel Redhat?

Usually just recompiling.  A few broken packages need fixes but most of
the just compile.  Btw, a large number 5.2 packages plus binaries are
already available on ftp.linux.sgi.com.

  Ralf

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I successfully recompiled the kernel on my DS5000/25, and checked
off support for SCSI tape, SCSI generic and "probe all LUN's".
My HP 35470a shows up in the SCSI list of devices at boot, but, 
unlike when connected to an Intel machine, it does not get assigned
st0.  And sure enough, when I try to do:

mt -f /dev/st0 status  or   mt -f /dev/rmt0 status,

I see "device not configured".

I also have a TK50 I plugged in, but this is not detected by the 
kernel at all.  Interesting that the same machine when booting 
NetBSD recognizes and works with the TK50 just fine, but refuses
to see the 35470.

Doug


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Hi everyone,

I put a 2.2.1 kernel source tree for DECstations on our ftp server in
ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/pub/os/linux/mips/decstation/

This version contains a driver for the Maxine kayboard/mouse, the 
Maxine onboard frame buffer, the PMAG-BA and the PMAGB-B (this one is
not yet tested). Caution - for the TC video cards (hack, hack), there
is a fixed base address set in maxinefb.c resp. pmagbafb.c which eventually
has to be modified - I'm going to fix that RSN. Please try it on your
machines and let me know if it works for you ...

I forgot to take the patch against 2.2.1 with me, I'll try to upload it
tonight. 

You have to configure the mouse device as follows:
mknod /dev/mouse c 10 0
it currently thinks it's a Logitech Bus Mouse.

Boot the system with either
boot 3/tftp/dec video=maxinefb:on
or
boot 3/tftp/dec video=pmagbafb:on
     ^^^^^^^^^^
or whatever is appropriate ...
 
Known deficiencies:
- no key repeat so far on the LK501
- no LEDs on the LK501
- some fixed framebuffer base addresses (OK for Maxine onboard fb, not
  for the others)
- fixed addresses for the Access.Bus peripheral devices (NetBSD seems
  to do it the same way ???)
- no support for "standard" LK201/401 keyboards and VSXXX-AA/GA mice
  on DZ or ZS so far
- no DS2100/3100 fb support

regards,
	Michael

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One more posting ...

can anyone please tell me what exactly I have to do in zs.c in order to
- correctly enable interrupts from port A
- determine which zs chip the IRQ came from 
- correctly initialize a port to a different baud rate 

I tried to hack my way through zs.c but am somehow lost ... I get 
IRQ's from the keyboard or mouse, but it seems as if the status bit for
the wrong channel is being set. Funny ...

Btw., the identical information for dz.c would also be nice ;-).

regards,
	Michael

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Just that you're not thinking I'm dead - I've just upgraded the
kernel to 2.2.9.  I'm now working on the 2.3 patches  and will check
that into the CVS at the next opportunity.

  Ralf

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Dear Sir,

i would like to know if it is possible to get LINUX running on following MIPS hardware platform:

	CPU: RM5230 (Quantum Effect Design)
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	Monitor: PMON

Where can i get the sources for the port?

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On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Michael Engel wrote:

> 
> 
> Btw., the identical information for dz.c would also be nice ;-).

if you still need this in two weeks ... I can get it then .. I am on
holidays at the moment so am far far away from my DecStation :-)

Dave

> 
> regards,
> 	Michael
> 

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Hi Gleb,
> 
> Michael Engel wrote:
> > 
> > I put a 2.2.1 kernel source tree for DECstations on our ftp server in
> > ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/pub/os/linux/mips/decstation/
> 
> Could you upload the patch also ? I'd like to look at your keyboard
> implementation, I need a way to connect the PC compatible keyboard to a
> serial port (either VAC or Zilog and the latter I use is a slightly
> modified DECstation one).

I'll upload the patch later today, my router was acting up this morning
and I have to prepare lots of things for LinuxTag (it looks like we're 
presenting Linux on almost every PowerPC system that exists ;-) - but we
also take a DECstation with us ...).

There is a nice schematic for connecting a PC keyboard to a Sparc (which 
also uses a serial port for kbd and mouse), I'll have to dig out the URL.
This circuit uses a Motorola 68HC11 microcontroller.

OTOH, you could probably try to get a LK201 or LK401 keyboard from a 
dead DEC terminal. These use a serial port running at 4800 baud and you
could use some of our keyboard code.

regards,
	Michael

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Michael Engel wrote:
> There is a nice schematic for connecting a PC keyboard to a Sparc (which
> also uses a serial port for kbd and mouse), I'll have to dig out the URL.
> This circuit uses a Motorola 68HC11 microcontroller.

Unfortunately, S/Linux uses own serial console implementation. I'd like
to see a solution which works with standard serial console. What I was
thinking is an intermediate driver which connects to a serial driver (in
the way ppp or slip or IrDa or whatever does) and provides neccessary
interfaces to pc_keyb (via mips kbd-ops). Perhaps, I'll need own line
discipline, but overall looks like clean solution to me.

> 
> OTOH, you could probably try to get a LK201 or LK401 keyboard from a
> dead DEC terminal. These use a serial port running at 4800 baud and you
> could use some of our keyboard code.

I already have custom keyboard that implements standard PC scan codes
(along with ANSI codes) and might be connected via both keyboard or just
ordinary serial port. Baget/MIPS hasn't keyboard port at all, so the
only way to connect this beast is via a seria port.

Regards,
Gleb.

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Hi,

Anyone trying to port Linux/MIPS to hand-held PCs?  I have a Sharp HC-4100
MIPS hand-held I have a strange urge to run Linux on. ;)

Ron

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Check out http://www.linuxce.org. There are instructions there about how
to get on the development list.

Peace,
J*

> Hi,
> 
> Anyone trying to port Linux/MIPS to hand-held PCs?  I have a Sharp HC-4100
> MIPS hand-held I have a strange urge to run Linux on. ;)
> 
> Ron
> 

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On 10-Jun-99 Michael Engel wrote:
> can anyone please tell me what exactly I have to do in zs.c in order to
> - correctly enable interrupts from port A

These will be enabled in startup() when you open the corresponding ttySx.

> - determine which zs chip the IRQ came from 

Look at struct dec_serial *info = (struct dec_serial *) dev_id;

> - correctly initialize a port to a different baud rate 

Normally you'd do this with an ioctrl().
 
> I tried to hack my way through zs.c but am somehow lost ... I get 
> IRQ's from the keyboard or mouse, but it seems as if the status bit for
> the wrong channel is being set. Funny ...

Well, I'd call it funny hardware. The interrupt pending bits (RR3) are
only valid when read from Port A but show the interrupts pending for both
channels.

Yes, Michael, I know that zs.c isn't ready for Keyboard/Mouse handling and
is in badly need of an overhaul. Maybe you should have a look at
drivers/sbus/zs.c.

Hope this helps.
---
Regards,
Harald

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I am just curious,  this device is based on a 131mhz Vr4121 MIPS chip.
It runs windows CE, I am just curious if this could possibly run the
mips port of linux?

                                                                Chad

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Hi All,

I've uploaded a new declinuxroot-990611.tgz to ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com
Changes are:

- 34 of the 59 packages are now from the RH 6.0 packages from
  ftp://bolug.uni-bonn.de 

- util-linux is now R[23]k clean (thanks to Dave)

- Tuned some config files for cleaner startup / shutdown.

The symlink declinuxroot-current.tgz now points to the new
root package. The instructions on http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel
are also updated.

Regards,
-- 
Karel van Houten

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The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better."
I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
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On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Karel van Houten wrote:
> I've uploaded a new declinuxroot-990611.tgz to ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com
> Changes are:
> - 34 of the 59 packages are now from the RH 6.0 packages from
>   ftp://bolug.uni-bonn.de 
> - util-linux is now R[23]k clean (thanks to Dave)
> - Tuned some config files for cleaner startup / shutdown.

When someone gets glibc 2.1 done for mipsel and mipseb, I'm committed to
churning out *both* the RH6 mipsel and mipseb tree out of the same set of
source rpms.

- Alex

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Harald Koerfgen wrote:
> 
> On 10-Jun-99 Michael Engel wrote:
> > can anyone please tell me what exactly I have to do in zs.c in order to
> > - correctly enable interrupts from port A
> 
> These will be enabled in startup() when you open the corresponding ttySx.
> 
> > - determine which zs chip the IRQ came from
> 
> Look at struct dec_serial *info = (struct dec_serial *) dev_id;
> 
> > - correctly initialize a port to a different baud rate
> 
> Normally you'd do this with an ioctrl().
> 
> > I tried to hack my way through zs.c but am somehow lost ... I get
> > IRQ's from the keyboard or mouse, but it seems as if the status bit for
> > the wrong channel is being set. Funny ...
> 
> Well, I'd call it funny hardware. The interrupt pending bits (RR3) are
> only valid when read from Port A but show the interrupts pending for both
> channels.
> 
> Yes, Michael, I know that zs.c isn't ready for Keyboard/Mouse handling and
> is in badly need of an overhaul. Maybe you should have a look at
> drivers/sbus/zs.c.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> ---
> Regards,
> Harald


Hello All hacking drivers/tc/zs.c !

It looks it becames popular to hack this driver.  We spend last month 
periodically fixing code in this file to make it able to provide 
robust console on our MIPS BE Baget-202 computer (like some DECstations, 
it has two Zilog chips). The result we have now is very closed to original zs.c,
and at least we know some problems, looking linked with reported in this 
conference last time (for instance, Gleb Raiko has idea, that permanent 
problems with 'login' on DECstations can be linked with some 'zs.c' features:
hacking our computer we detected same effect at login stage).

First of all, why we are sure that channel with lowest address is channel A ?
Is it true that chip should select channel by address bit 0x8 ?
Our friend who deeply know about electronic side of our computer, said that 
Zilog decodes channel just by this bit.
So, if our Baget has another internal mapping of Zilog registers by modulo 8,
we have (we detected it in practice first :-) another order of channels.
But interrupts are handled by channel A only, so it leads to 'nothing works'.

Second, we detected that we have problems with interrupts until we add following
string to the end of interrupt handler:

        // FIXME: is it really needed (and why) ?
        write_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 0, RES_H_IUS);

This command explicitly marks end of interrupt. Without it Zilog think IRQ is not
handled by software. 
It is strange, because the driver should set mode which forces automatic IACK...

Third, we found the routines linked with blocked operation are waiting infinite
time in procedure:

/*
 * rs_wait_until_sent() --- wait until the transmitter is empty
 */
static void rs_wait_until_sent(struct tty_struct *tty, int timeout)
{
        struct dec_serial *info = (struct dec_serial *) tty->driver_data;
        unsigned long orig_jiffies, char_time;

        if (serial_paranoia_check(info, tty->device, "rs_wait_until_sent"))
                return;

        orig_jiffies = jiffies;
        /*
         * Set the check interval to be 1/5 of the estimated time to
         * send a single character, and make it at least 1.  The check
         * interval should also be less than the timeout.
         */
        char_time = (info->timeout - HZ/50) / info->xmit_fifo_size;
        char_time = char_time / 5;
        // FIXME: added line
        char_time = 1;
        if (char_time == 0)
                char_time = 1;
        if (timeout)
                char_time = MIN(char_time, timeout);
        while (0/*FIXME*/ && (read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 1) & ALL_SNT) == 0) {
          //     printk("scc: wait_until_send in loop, char_time=%d, timeout=%d,
 orig_jiffies=%d, jiffies = %d\n",
          //        char_time, timeout, orig_jiffies, jiffies);
                current->state = TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE;
                current->counter = 0;   /* make us low-priority */
                schedule_timeout(char_time);
                if (signal_pending(current))
                        break;
                if (timeout && ((orig_jiffies + timeout) < jiffies))
                        break;
        }
        current->state = TASK_RUNNING;
}

See how we were forced to place hacks nead FIXME words.
Really, this function need some attention: we found it can wait a HUGE time obtaining
negative 'char_time' !

More interesting: our chip may forget to said ALL_SNT in some cases (!)


It is not all, but most important things.

If somebody found our fixes useful, please inform us.



Yet another activity:

We need nearest time to add support for serial keyboard (that is, keyboard which looks
like a normal keyboard, but is connected via serial port).
It looks relatively easy to add support for it in zs.c, like in Sparc Zilog driver,
like Harald already suggested.
If anybody already doing it, please mail about results.


Happy Ziloging,

Best wishes,
Vladimir.

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In message <000701beb409$adf0d720$4b5da7cd@ron> "Ron Guerin" writes:
: Anyone trying to port Linux/MIPS to hand-held PCs?  I have a Sharp HC-4100
: MIPS hand-held I have a strange urge to run Linux on. ;)

No.  No one is porting to the CPU that is in the sharp.  I think that
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any real progress on is for the PR31700 so that Nino's and frends
work.  12MB may be a little small, however.

There is a linuxce site (www.linuxce.org), but so far it is just
vaporware.

Some Japanese programmers have ported NetBSD to the Vr41xx class of
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You can find links to datasheets, netbsd, linuxce, etc and a fairly
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	http://www.freebsd.org/~imp/pdamips.

Warner

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In message <37614350.EBD541BF@geocities.com> incite writes:
: I am just curious,  this device is based on a 131mhz Vr4121 MIPS chip.
: It runs windows CE, I am just curious if this could possibly run the
: mips port of linux?

I don't think that anybody is working on Linux on the Vr4121 at the
moment.

There is a linuxce site (www.linuxce.org), but so far it is just
vaporware.

Some Japanese programmers have ported NetBSD to the Vr41xx class of
machines.  It boots to multi-user mode now, assuming that you have a
big enough CF or use NFSROOT.

You can find links to datasheets, netbsd, linuxce, etc and a fairly
complete table of all WinCE machines based on MIPS at
	http://www.freebsd.org/~imp/pdamips.

Warner

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On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 10:29:45AM +0200, Ralf Rosch wrote:

> i would like to know if it is possible to get LINUX running on following MIPS hardware platform:
> 
> 	CPU: RM5230 (Quantum Effect Design)
> 	System Controller: GT64115 PCI System Controller (Galileo Technology)
> 	Monitor: PMON

That's a system that is pretty similar to the Cobalt Qube.  You may
try to base your work on their sources or port their stuffs into newer
kernels.

> Where can i get the sources for the port?

Get the Cobalt kernel rpm package from {ftp,www}.cobaltnet.com.

  Ralf

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1. how to boot in single user on a magnum 4000 with riscos on it ??
2. is it possible to install linux on it without video: only serial line
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I've just commited Linux 2.2.8 into the CVS archive.  Once this is
finished I'll create a branch named linux_2_2 for the 2.2 development
in the archive.  If you just do ``cvs update'' you'll stay on the
mainline of the development, that is 2.3.  If you want to work with
the 2.2 sources then you'll have to add the option ``-r linux_2_2''
to your next cvs update or cvs co command.

I'm already running 2.2.9 and 2.3.1 on my Indy but the checkin is that
slow that I won't commit these versions into the CVS archive now.

  Ralf

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On 11-Jun-99 Vladimir A. Roganov wrote:

[hacking zs.c]
> Third, we found the routines linked with blocked operation are waiting
> infinite time in procedure:

[code snipped]

> See how we were forced to place hacks nead FIXME words.
> Really, this function need some attention: we found it can wait a HUGE
> time obtaining negative 'char_time' !
> 
> More interesting: our chip may forget to said ALL_SNT in some cases (!)

Good spotted! I just tried if your hack does any harm on the DECstations,
and guess what, it does not only work, but switching runlevels doesn't
take unnaturally long any more! It looks like the init problems on the
DECstations are related to this.

I've done some research and found that neither drivers/sbus/char/zs.c nor
drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c are having rs_wait_until_sent().

After removing that from drivers/tc/zs.c everything seems to work well.

Fellow DECstation hackers, could you please check wether the attached
patch does any harm anywhere?
---
Regards,
Harald

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--- zs.c.orig	Sun Jun 13 18:04:55 1999
+++ zs.c	Sun Jun 13 18:05:52 1999
@@ -135,7 +135,6 @@
 
 static void probe_sccs(void);
 static void change_speed(struct dec_serial *info);
-static void rs_wait_until_sent(struct tty_struct *tty, int timeout);
 
 static struct tty_struct *serial_table[NUM_CHANNELS];
 static struct termios *serial_termios[NUM_CHANNELS];
@@ -1261,13 +1260,6 @@
 	info->zs_channel->curregs[1] = 0;	/* disable any rx ints */
 	write_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 1, info->zs_channel->curregs[1]);
 	ZS_CLEARFIFO(info->zs_channel);
-	if (info->flags & ZILOG_INITIALIZED) {
-		/*
-		 * Before we drop DTR, make sure the SCC transmitter
-		 * has completely drained.
-		 */
-		rs_wait_until_sent(tty, info->timeout);
-	}
 
 	shutdown(info);
 	if (tty->driver.flush_buffer)
@@ -1291,41 +1283,6 @@
 }
 
 /*
- * rs_wait_until_sent() --- wait until the transmitter is empty
- */
-static void rs_wait_until_sent(struct tty_struct *tty, int timeout)
-{
-	struct dec_serial *info = (struct dec_serial *) tty->driver_data;
-	unsigned long orig_jiffies, char_time;
-
-	if (serial_paranoia_check(info, tty->device, "rs_wait_until_sent"))
-		return;
-
-	orig_jiffies = jiffies;
-	/*
-	 * Set the check interval to be 1/5 of the estimated time to
-	 * send a single character, and make it at least 1.  The check
-	 * interval should also be less than the timeout.
-	 */
-	char_time = (info->timeout - HZ/50) / info->xmit_fifo_size;
-	char_time = char_time / 5;
-	if (char_time == 0)
-		char_time = 1;
-	if (timeout)
-		char_time = MIN(char_time, timeout);
-	while ((read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 1) & ALL_SNT) == 0) {
-		current->state = TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE;
-		current->counter = 0;	/* make us low-priority */
-		schedule_timeout(char_time);
-		if (signal_pending(current))
-			break;
-		if (timeout && ((orig_jiffies + timeout) < jiffies))
-			break;
-	}
-	current->state = TASK_RUNNING;
-}
-
-/*
  * rs_hangup() --- called by tty_hangup() when a hangup is signaled.
  */
 void rs_hangup(struct tty_struct *tty)
@@ -1710,7 +1667,6 @@
 	serial_driver.start = rs_start;
 	serial_driver.hangup = rs_hangup;
 	serial_driver.break_ctl = rs_break;
-	serial_driver.wait_until_sent = rs_wait_until_sent;
 
 	/*
 	 * The callout device is just like normal device except for

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On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 06:55:23PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> I've just commited Linux 2.2.8 into the CVS archive.  Once this is
> finished I'll create a branch named linux_2_2 for the 2.2 development
> in the archive.  If you just do ``cvs update'' you'll stay on the
> mainline of the development, that is 2.3.  If you want to work with
> the 2.2 sources then you'll have to add the option ``-r linux_2_2''
> to your next cvs update or cvs co command.
> 
> I'm already running 2.2.9 and 2.3.1 on my Indy but the checkin is that
> slow that I won't commit these versions into the CVS archive now.

I would appreciate if it was possible to continue using 32 bit code on the Indy,
even if you add 64 bit code. Maybe we can add it as an option in the kernel
configuration scripts?

- Ulf

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> On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 06:55:23PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> > I've just commited Linux 2.2.8 into the CVS archive.  Once this is
> > finished I'll create a branch named linux_2_2 for the 2.2 development
> > in the archive.  If you just do ``cvs update'' you'll stay on the
> > mainline of the development, that is 2.3.  If you want to work with
> > the 2.2 sources then you'll have to add the option ``-r linux_2_2''
> > to your next cvs update or cvs co command.
> > 
> > I'm already running 2.2.9 and 2.3.1 on my Indy but the checkin is that
> > slow that I won't commit these versions into the CVS archive now.
> 
> I would appreciate if it was possible to continue using 32 bit code on the Indy,
> even if you add 64 bit code. Maybe we can add it as an option in the kernel
> configuration scripts?

I'll implement MIPS64 as a new architecture just like sparc64 is different
from sparc.  The changes are too big and I finally want to use the
freedem to use all the tricks in the box.  It also means that we'll have
some more of a maintenance pain for the common code for mips and mips64.

  Ralf

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On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 09:37:23PM -0700, digital convergence wrote:

> btw, how well is native IRIX binary loading supported? I wish to run a
> copy of BMRT on my farm of indy's under linux, but it won't let me
> execute any of the binaries (they're R4000 optimised old style linkage
> bins)....

Only a limited number of syscalls and other interfaces is supported at
all and I haven't received any reports about the IRIX compatibility
stuff in ages.  Anybody interested in maintaining this facility?

  Ralf

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Harald Koerfgen writes:
>
>Good spotted! I just tried if your hack does any harm on the DECstations,
>and guess what, it does not only work, but switching runlevels doesn't
>take unnaturally long any more! It looks like the init problems on the
>DECstations are related to this.
>
>I've done some research and found that neither drivers/sbus/char/zs.c nor
>drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c are having rs_wait_until_sent().
>
>After removing that from drivers/tc/zs.c everything seems to work well.
>
>Fellow DECstation hackers, could you please check wether the attached
>patch does any harm anywhere?

Well, I've just tried the folowing:
Using a new kernel (fresh compile, CVS sources, r23k-patch, hz_patch,
zs-patch), I used Richards script (sequential kernel compiles, 10 jobs
parrallel), to get the system loaded from a telnet login, and then I
logged in at the console (serial), and did ls -lsR / (to give the serial
IO something to do). After a while, the system paniced.

Tomorrow I'll try to do the same test with an older kernel, but this
is a bug, maybe in the zs-patch, or in the previous kernel.

Here my listing.... (Harald, this system is named after you :-)

This DECstation is a DS5000/1xx
Loading R4000 MMU routines.
CPU revision is: 00000430
Primary instruction cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes)
Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 32
Linux version 2.2.1 (root@harald.research.kpn.com) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) #12 Mon Jun 14 09:05:42 MEST 1999
Calibrating delay loop... 49.81 BogoMIPS
Memory: 30788k/32764k available (1112k kernel code, 576k data)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
Checking for 'wait' instruction...  unavailable.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 12.5 MHz (no parity)
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5
DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03
tty00 at 0xbc100001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
tty01 at 0xbc100009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
tty02 at 0xbc180001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
tty03 at 0xbc180009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC
loop: registered device at major 7
SCSI ID 7  Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected
ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use.
... <rest of boot deleted> ...

Red Hat Linux release 5.1 (Manhattan)
Kernel 2.2.1 on a mips

login: root
Password:
Last login: Mon Jun 14 09:55:55 on console
[root@harald /root]# cd /
[root@harald /]# ls -lsR /
total 50
   1 -rw-r--r--   1 root     root          901 Jun  4 16:59 README
   1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Jun 10 08:51 bin

.... <lots of lines deleted> ....

   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 129 May  5  1998 vcsa1
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 138 May  5  1998 vcsa10
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 139 May  5  1998 vcsa11
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 140 May  5  1998 vcsa12
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 141 May  5  1998 vcsa13
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 142 May  5  1998 vcsa14
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 143 May  5  1998 vcsa15
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 144 May  5  1998 vcsa16
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 145 May  5  1998 vcsa17
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 146 May  5  1998 vcsa18
   0 crw--w----Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000020, epc == 00000020, ra == 80131a40
Oops: 0000
$0 : 00000000 10052000 00000e6f cbd00000
 $4 : 80092b80 80192098 80192448 017c0000
$8 : 00000020 8016d5c8 ffffffff 10000000
$12: 61736376 00000000 51eb851f 80b2be18
$16: 10052001 00000043 00000042 81ef8000
$20: 00000000 80161500 2abba000 80161500
$24: 00000000 2ab31600
$28: 80b2a000 80b2bd40 80108aa8 80131a40
epc   : 00000020
Status: 10052002
Cause : 00000008
Process ls (pid: 362, stackpage=80b2a000)
Stack: 81ef8000 00000043 00000039 81ef8000 80092bbc ffff00ff 00000000 10052000
       00000e6f 00000000 0000002d 80192098 80192448 017c0000 00002000 ffff00ff
       017c0000 20383939 61736376 00000000 51eb851f 80b2be18 10052001 00000043
       00000042 81ef8000 00000000 80161500 2abba000 80161500 00000000 2ab31600
       00000000 80161500 80b2a000 80b2bdf0 80108aa8 80131a40 cbd00000 00000031
       80131a68 ...
Call Trace: [<80092bbc>] [<80108aa8>] [<80131a40>] [<80131a68>] [<80106944>] [<80108c24>] [<80103ba8>] [<8005cf64>] [<80093000>] [<8012a818>] [<801039d0>] [<80077f6c>] [<8004c168>] [<8004b8a4>]
Code: (Bad address in epc)

  1 root     tty        7, 147 May  5  1998 vcsa19
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 130 May  5  1998 vcsa2
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 148 May  5  1998 vcsa20
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 149 May  5  1998 vcsa21
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 150 May  5  1998 vcsa22
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 151 May  5  1998 vcsa23

.... <some more lines deleted> ....

   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 178 May  5  1998 vcsa50
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 179 May  5  1998 vcsa51
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 180 May  5  1998 vcsa52
   0 crw--w----  Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == 8005bf7c, ra == 80130ba8
Oops: 0000
$0 : 00000000 10012000 00000000 00000001
$4 : 00000000 00000001 00000001 8019211c
$8 : 00002000 ffff00ff 017c0000 00000080
$12: 00000000 7ffff7d0 00000001 00000002
$16: 80b2be88 81ef8968 00000001 00000004
$20: 00000000 00000003 00000000 8140e2a8
$24: 00000000 2ac095c0
$28: 80046000 80047d88 80047d88 80130ba8
epc   : 8005bf7c
Status: 10012003
Cause : 00000008
Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=80046000)
Stack: 8012a818 00000031 00000001 00000001 81ef8000 80188470 8016af20 8140e660
       80130ba8 00000000 801eb220 08000000 00000004 80047e00 00000000 80130b20
       00000000 8140e2a8 80093000 80093000 00000000 80065fe0 00000000 80188460
       80160000 80046000 80160000 80046000 800485e8 8140e2a8 8140e660 80065fe0
       81ce2000 80170000 80160000 0001c0bb 00000000 10012001 00000000 00000000
       80170000 ...
Call Trace: [<8012a818>] [<80130ba8>] [<80047e00>] [<80130b20>] [<80093000>] [<80093000>] [<80065fe0>] [<80046000>] [<80046000>] [<800485e8>] [<80065fe0>] [<80046000>] [<80047fe0>] [<80046000>] [<80046000>] [<80047eb0>] [<8004e074>] [<8005bbfc>] [<80046000>] [<80047ed8>] [<8004e074>] [<8004e074>] [<80047ee8>] [<8004c168>] [<8004c168>] [<80047f98>] [<80046000>] [<80047f58>] [<8005fcfc>] [<8004816c>] [<80046000>] [<80046000>] [<80047fa8>] [<80049eec>] [<8004815c>] [<80135684>] [<800405cc>] [<80040640>] [<80040614>]
Code: 1211000b  00000000  8e040000 <8c820000> 8e100004  00521024  10400003  00000000  0c016dae
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing
 1 root     tty        7, 181 May  5  1998 vcsa53
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 182 May  5  1998 vcsa54
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 183 May  5  1998 vcsa55
   0 crw--w----   1 root     tty        7, 184 May  5  1998 vcsa56

<System frozen, have to press reset>

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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Marcelo Buil wrote:

> Hi!!!! I=B4ve read the page you have and I=B4m interested in participatin=
g in
> your proyect. I have a Compaq C810. I would love to help in the developme=
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> of the kernel or whatever but the problem is that I don=B4t know very muc=
h. If
> you could tell me where i can find some good manuals about this it would =
be
> great. Hope of hering from you....

Linux MIPS is covered on these pages (and you find more links on these
pages too):
http://www.linux.sgi.com/
http://decstation.unix-ag.org/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/
http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/mips/

Regards,
Richard

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I wrote: 
> Well, I've just tried the folowing:
> Using a new kernel (fresh compile, CVS sources, r23k-patch, hz_patch,
> zs-patch), I used Richards script (sequential kernel compiles, 10 jobs
> parrallel), to get the system loaded from a telnet login, and then I
> logged in at the console (serial), and did ls -lsR / (to give the serial
> IO something to do). After a while, the system paniced.
> 
> Tomorrow I'll try to do the same test with an older kernel, but this
> is a bug, maybe in the zs-patch, or in the previous kernel.

indeed, the system did also panic with the old kernel (without zs-patch).
So that is not the source of the problem. I've run the compile script
lots of times without using the serial console, and I had no problems.

There must be something related to the serial driver.

Regards,
Karel.

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From raiko@niisi.msk.ru  Tue Jun 15 12:37:57 1999
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Hello Harald,

Harald Koerfgen wrote:
> 
> Good spotted! I just tried if your hack does any harm on the DECstations,
> and guess what, it does not only work, but switching runlevels doesn't
> take unnaturally long any more! It looks like the init problems on the
> DECstations are related to this.
> 
> I've done some research and found that neither drivers/sbus/char/zs.c nor
> drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c are having rs_wait_until_sent().
> 
> After removing that from drivers/tc/zs.c everything seems to work well.
> 

While you fixed your problems on init, you made at least new one. :-)

The difference between sunserial and DECstation zs drivers is that
sunserial uses synchronous mode while zs uses asynchronous one. Thus, zs
really needs rs_wait_until_sent to ensure we switch any modes at the
time transmitter is empty aned we don't get any garabge on the terminal.

I'd like to note you switch from easy reproducable problem to hard
reproducable one. BTW, that's the only reason I didn't send new patch
for Baget yet, zs driver still needs a lot of hacking before it becomes
functional.

Regards,
Gleb.

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I know this must be covered in a FAQ somewhere, but I haven't
been able to uncover it.  I have several empty DEC Storage
Expansion Boxes, Model SZ12-CXA, also with the text BA42A
on the back.  I also have several full ones, with DEC RZ56
or RZ57 drives in them.  Those enclosures come with these nice
U-shaped brackets that attach to the drives, and make them very 
easy to install and remove.  I'd like to get some more of these
brackets, but I don't know where to find them.  Does anyone
know about getting ahold of some of these things?

Doug


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Hi,

I've uploaded new patches to build native and cross binutils and compilers
for mips-linux and mipsel-linux targets for Linux/MIPS on ftp.linux.sgi.com
into

  /pub/linux/src/binutils/binutils-2.8.1-2.diff.gz
  /pub/linux/src/egcs/egcs-1.0.3a-1.diff.gz

Please report problems with these patches to ralf@uni-koblenz.de.

The MD5 checksums are:

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  Ralf

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To: Michael Engel <engel@math.uni-siegen.de>
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Subject: Re: DECstation Linux 2.2.1 with fbcon patches ...
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Hi Michael, 

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this, but it's been
awhile since I used my LK501 and mouse, so had had to hunt them up.

I've been working my Maxine with a console, and booting off
SCSI drive sdb1, so I tried both:

boot 3/tftp/dec video=maxinefb:on root=/dev/sdb1
and
boot 3/tftp/dec video=pmagbafb:on root=/dev/sdb1

Both boots stop sending output to the monitor at "This Decstation is 
a Personal DS5000/xx"

I don't know how much of this is relevant, but I'm using the video
on the baseboard (not the Turbochannel), the machine is KN02-CA v2.0m

Some of the relevant console settings are:
 #=3
 console=1
 osconsole=3,3

cnfg yields:

KNO2-CA   DEC      v2.0m    TCF0     (40 MB)
                                     (DV -- d=8 )
                                     (Sb: devs=2 )
                                     (FDI:1)
                                     (enet: 08-00-2b-2f-ce-f0)
                                     (SCSI=7)

I'll fiddle around with console settings til I hear from you.

Doug


On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Michael Engel wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I put a 2.2.1 kernel source tree for DECstations on our ftp server in
> ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/pub/os/linux/mips/decstation/
> 
> This version contains a driver for the Maxine kayboard/mouse, the 
> Maxine onboard frame buffer, the PMAG-BA and the PMAGB-B (this one is
> not yet tested). Caution - for the TC video cards (hack, hack), there
> is a fixed base address set in maxinefb.c resp. pmagbafb.c which eventually
> has to be modified - I'm going to fix that RSN. Please try it on your
> machines and let me know if it works for you ...
> 

From <@Cologne.DE:karsten@excalibur.cologne.de>  Sat Jun 19 00:11:56 1999
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To: linux-mips@fnet.fr
Subject: Re: DECstation Linux 2.2.1 with fbcon patches ...
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Douglas S. Meade wrote:

[Maxine]
> boot 3/tftp/dec video=maxinefb:on root=/dev/sdb1
> and
> boot 3/tftp/dec video=pmagbafb:on root=/dev/sdb1
> 
> Both boots stop sending output to the monitor at "This Decstation is 
> a Personal DS5000/xx"
> 
> I don't know how much of this is relevant, but I'm using the video
> on the baseboard (not the Turbochannel), the machine is KN02-CA v2.0m

The first variant is for the onboard framebuffer. I know that this is a
dumb question, but are you sure that you have enabled the maxinefb in the
kernelconfig?

Did you compile the kernel yourself or did you take Michaels kernelimage
from decstation.unix-ag.org?

For further debugging you could try booting with an attached serial
terminal and "boot 3/tftp/dec video=maxinefb:on root=/dev/sdb1
console=ttyS0". This should give you the kernel messages on the serial
terminal. The maxinefb driver prints out several debugging messages
during initialization, so we could find out wheter it is actually called
or not.

HTH,
Karsten
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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@uni-koblenz.de>
To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu
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Could people crosscompiling the kernel under IRIX 6.5.1 on a Origin 200
or similar configurations please contact me?  I have to solve a
crossbuild problem.

  Ralf

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Hallo,

I have a strange problem on my Maxine and would like to ask if somebody
could try to reproduce this. When compiling the inn-2.2-package from RH60,
I always get the same error:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
cd innd ; make  DESTDIR= all ; cd ..
make[2]: Entering directory `/data/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/inn-2.2/innd'
gcc -o innd art.o cc.o chan.o his.o icd.o innd.o lc.o nc.o newsfeeds.o\
ng.o perl.o proc.o rc.o site.o status.o tcl.o timer.o wip.o\
../storage/libstorage.a ../lib/libinn.a ../lib/perl.o\
-L/usr/lib/perl5/mipsel-linux/5.00404/CORE -rdynamic -L/usr/local/lib\
/usr/lib/perl5/mipsel-linux/5.00404/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a\
-L/usr/lib/perl5/mipsel-linux/5.00404/CORE -lperl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm\
-lc -lposix -lbsd -lnsl -lcrypt -lresolv -lnsl
collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped
make[2]: *** [innd] Error 1
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A similar effect occurs when trying to compile vim-5.3-7.src.rpm:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
gcc -rdynamic -o vim buffer.o charset.o digraph.o edit.o eval.o ex_cmds.o\
ex_docmd.o ex_getln.o fileio.o getchar.o if_cscope.o main.o mark.o\
memfile.o memline.o message.o misc1.o misc2.o multbyte.o normal.o ops.o\
option.o os_unix.o pathdef.o quickfix.o regexp.o screen.o search.o\
syntax.o tag.o term.o ui.o undo.o window.o gui.o gui_athena.o gui_x11.o\
pty.o gui_at_sb.o gui_at_fs.o if_perl.o if_perlsfio.o if_python.o\
py_config.o version.o -L. -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXaw -lXmu -lXext -lXt -lSM\
-lICE -lXpm -lX11 -lncurses -rdynamic -L/usr/local/lib\
/usr/lib/perl5/mipsel-linux/5.00404/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a\
-L/usr/lib/perl5/mipsel-linux/5.00404/CORE -lperl -lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl\
-lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt /usr/lib/python1.5/config/libpython1.5.a -lieee\
-ldl -lm
collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Involved packages are:
make-3.77-6
egcs-1.0.2-9
perl-5.004-6
glibc-2.0.7-20
glibc-devel-2.0.7-20
gdbm-1.7.3-19
python-1.5.1-4

The system is based on the declinuxroot-990128.tgz; egcs-1.0.2-9,
glibc-devel-2.0.7-20 and perl-5.004-6 are from ftp.linux.sgi.com and
make-3.77-6, gdbm-1.7.3-19 and python-1.5.1-4 are RH60 packages which I
have compiled myself (they are on bolug.uni-bonn.de). The python-package
required some small changes before compiling on a glibc20 system, but that
should not cause the linker to segfault, in particular as python is not
used while building inn. I have tried replacing perl-5.004-6 by
perl-5.00503 from RH6 but that did not change the behaviour.

Any ideas?

Greetings,
Karsten
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Hello Karsten,

> I have a strange problem on my Maxine and would like to ask if somebody
> could try to reproduce this. When compiling the inn-2.2-package from RH60,
> I always get the same error:

That fast I haven't reproduced the errors you encounter, but I have one
to add on MAXine building glibc-2.0.7-20:

make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/glibc-2.0.7/wcsmbs'
make  -C time subdir_lib
make: *** [time/subdir_lib] Segmentation fault (core dumped)

and on 5000/133: 
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/glibc-2.0.7/ctype'
make  -C db others
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/glibc-2.0.7/db'
gcc -g  -shared -o libdb.so  -Wl,-dynamic-linker=/lib/ld.so.1 -B../csu/ -Wl,-soname=libdb.so.2   -L.. -L../elf -L../nss -L../nis -L. -L../resolv -Wl,-rpath-link=..:../elf:../nss:../nis:.:../resolv -Wl,--whole-archive libdb_pic.a ../interp.so ../libc.so -W
l,--no-whole-archive 
collect2: ld terminated with signal 6 [Aborted], core dumped
make[1]: *** [libdb.so] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/glibc-2.0.7/db'
make: *** [db/others] Error 2

> The system is based on the declinuxroot-990128.tgz; egcs-1.0.2-9,
> glibc-devel-2.0.7-20 and perl-5.004-6 are from ftp.linux.sgi.com and
> make-3.77-6, gdbm-1.7.3-19 and python-1.5.1-4 are RH60 packages which I
> have compiled myself (they are on bolug.uni-bonn.de). The python-package
> required some small changes before compiling on a glibc20 system, but that
> should not cause the linker to segfault, in particular as python is not
> used while building inn. I have tried replacing perl-5.004-6 by
> perl-5.00503 from RH6 but that did not change the behaviour.

Which binutils? I'm using 2.8.1 with R3k patch.

> Any ideas?

I would like to now how to start a kernel without compiled in serial
support, is it possible that a kernel boots without an initial console? I
build such a kernel, but it didn't completly started, I guess it paniced
not having a console. As Vladimir pointed out the instability on R3K
DEC's is outside common R3k code, with that in mind I'm curious what the
MAXine does with its native console supported. That's what I'm currently
trying to do: building a kernel with the framebuffer supported.

Regards,
Richard

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Try to use the new binutils patches I recently uploaded.  They fix
a few coredumps and other problems.  There is one R3000 fix which
I haven't yet integrated, thanks for reminding me of that one ...

  Ralf

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Warner Losh wrote:
> 
>
> Some Japanese programmers have ported NetBSD to the Vr41xx class of
> machines.  It boots to multi-user mode now, assuming that you have a
> big enough CF or use NFSROOT.
> 
> You can find links to datasheets, netbsd, linuxce, etc and a fairly
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> 
> Warner

Is only copy of netbsd port in japanese? As a side note how realistic
would it be to port linux to the Vr41xx? Is there a new port of gcc for
this device?


					Chad

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In message <376D73E9.1BDF2236@geocities.com> incite writes:
: Is only copy of netbsd port in japanese? 

No.  There is also a web page at
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(careful, it has some Japanese still embedded in it).  It is just the
blurb page, and not the whole thing.

: As a side note how realistic
: would it be to port linux to the Vr41xx? Is there a new port of gcc for
: this device?

There is no need to port GCC to this device.  It has had support for a
long time.  Should be realistic to move to the Vr41xx, but there might 
be lots of irritating issues.

Warner

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Hi all,

Does anyone knows what the status is of Linux 2.2.8 (MIPS CVS)
regarding DECStations? Are Harald's patches updated already?

Regards,
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Richard van den Berg wrote:

[Segfaults while linking particular programs]
> Which binutils? I'm using 2.8.1 with R3k patch.

binutils-2.8.1-2 from Thomas Bogendoerfer. They should be R3K-clean.
I will try to get Ralf's new binutils- and egcs-patches tomorrow and build
new binutils- and egcs-rpms with them.

> I would like to now how to start a kernel without compiled in serial
> support, is it possible that a kernel boots without an initial console? I

AFAIK not without _any_ initial console, but without serial console and
with framebuffer console instead should be no problem. IIRC I had running
a 2.1.131 with the maxinefb driver and without support for serial console.

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On 21-Jun-99 Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone knows what the status is of Linux 2.2.8 (MIPS CVS)
> regarding DECStations?

Non functional.

> Are Harald's patches updated already?

I'm afraid they aren't. I haven't had much time for kernel hacking.

---
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Harald

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Hello Michael,

> I put a 2.2.1 kernel source tree for DECstations on our ftp server in
> ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/pub/os/linux/mips/decstation/

> This version contains a driver for the Maxine kayboard/mouse, the 
> Maxine onboard frame buffer, the PMAG-BA and the PMAGB-B (this one is
> not yet tested). Caution - for the TC video cards (hack, hack), there
> is a fixed base address set in maxinefb.c resp. pmagbafb.c which eventually
> has to be modified - I'm going to fix that RSN. Please try it on your
> machines and let me know if it works for you ...

Really cool to see that little Penguin! It's exciting! (This is the
MAXine with on-board frame buffer)

A PMAGB-BA mounted in the MAXine with a kernel that only supports the
onboard frame buffer doesn't work. A kernel with only PMAGB-BA support
displays until `This is a ...' and the machines runs fine besides
that. Maybe changing the base address? I'll try that anyway.

> I forgot to take the patch against 2.2.1 with me, I'll try to upload it
> tonight. 

Meanwhile it's available at http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/mips/
alert: it is against linux-2.2.1-dec.tar.gz not the CVS source.

> Known deficiencies:
> - no key repeat so far on the LK501
> - no LEDs on the LK501

 - almost no control sequences, ^O gives ^C

> - some fixed framebuffer base addresses (OK for Maxine onboard fb, not
>   for the others)
> - fixed addresses for the Access.Bus peripheral devices (NetBSD seems
>   to do it the same way ???)
> - no support for "standard" LK201/401 keyboards and VSXXX-AA/GA mice
>   on DZ or ZS so far
> - no DS2100/3100 fb support

Another remark: normal init with these kernels.

Great work guys! I like the console font, it is beautiful on a 17".

Regards,
Richard

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Hallo everyone,

just for your information: I have uploaded several additional .mipsel.rpms
to bolug.uni-bonn.de today, including among others perl, tetex, sendmail,
wu-ftpd, groff, squid and uucp.

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On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, gene wrote:

> Hi I am Gene and I have a nec2000,  I believe the processor is a rm4400, 250
> MHZ MIPS CPU.  It currently is runniung NT40 and

This configuration is not supperted, for more info have a look at one
of these pages where Linux MIPS is covered (and you find more links on
these pages too):
http://www.linux.sgi.com/
http://decstation.unix-ag.org/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/
http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/mips/

Regards,
Richard

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hi,

i have just acquired a "SGI Power Server IRIS 4D/310VGX". all i knew
about sgi machines until last weekend as that they looked very cool!

i think that this machine has a r3000 processor (after searching faq's).
i
was going to spend more time coding on the linux-mca port, but
would love to help with the r2/3000 processor port.

many thanks,

pete.

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Hello,

Linux MIPS is covered on these pages (and you find more links on these
pages too):
http://www.linux.sgi.com/
http://decstation.unix-ag.org/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/
http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/mips/

Regards,
Richard

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Hi all,

I did some more investigations in the DECStation zs driver, and the
resulting slowdown of init.

This is the relevant code from drivers/tc/zs.[ch]:

/* Read Register 0 */
#define Tx_BUF_EMP      0x4     /* Tx Buffer empty */

/* Read Register 1 */
#define ALL_SNT         0x1     /* All sent */

/*
 * rs_wait_until_sent() --- wait until the transmitter is empty
 */
static void rs_wait_until_sent(struct tty_struct *tty, int timeout)
{
 ....

        while ((read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 1) & ALL_SNT) == 0) {
                current->state = TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE;
                current->counter = 0;   /* make us low-priority */
                schedule_timeout(char_time);
                if (signal_pending(current))
                        break;
                if (timeout && ((orig_jiffies + timeout) < jiffies))
                        break;
        }
        current->state = TASK_RUNNING;
}

Now, look how NetBSD handles this:

#define SCC_RR0         0       /* status register */
#define SCC_RR1         1       /* special receive conditions */

        /*
         * Wait for transmitter to be not busy.
         */
        do {
                SCC_READ_REG(regs, line, SCC_RR0, value);
                if (value & ZSRR0_TX_READY)
                        break;
                DELAY(100);
        } while (1);


So I changed the loop in rs_wait_until_sent to:

	while ((read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 0) & Tx_BUF_EMP) == 0) {
                udelay(100);
        }
or 

	while ((read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 1) & ALL_SNT) == 0) {
                udelay(100);
        }

Both versions result in a much faster init, and no problems with the
console for now.

Any comments from the kernel-specialists?

Regards,
-- 
Karel van Houten

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I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. 
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I am trying to install linux roughcuts(mips) on a dec 5000.  However I be=
lieve
THAT MIPS CANNOT READ THE CD ROM FORMAT.  Is there any solutions to this
problem as the commands we have used are correct and the hardware is dete=
cted.
 I would be greatful of any assistance.  From Damien Harris

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	I don't see any reason why a Mips system wouldn't be able to read an
iso9660 CD with rockridge extensions, even considering 2048 byte
sectors. 

	On the other hand, I don't see any reason why a RoughCuts CD would
install on a Decstation 5000. They do call it a pre-release for a
reason. 

 - Eric

damos.yum@usa.net wrote:
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> I am trying to install linux roughcuts(mips) on a dec 5000.  However I believe
> THAT MIPS CANNOT READ THE CD ROM FORMAT.  Is there any solutions to this
> problem as the commands we have used are correct and the hardware is detected.
>  I would be greatful of any assistance.  From Damien Harris
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On 27 Jun 1999 damos.yum@usa.net wrote:

> I am trying to install linux roughcuts(mips) on a dec 5000.  However I believe
> THAT MIPS CANNOT READ THE CD ROM FORMAT.  Is there any solutions to this
> problem as the commands we have used are correct and the hardware is detected.
>  I would be greatful of any assistance.  From Damien Harris

The RoughCuts CD is for big endian MIPS only.  Your DEC 5000 is
little endian.  The CD itself is iso 9660 though.

- Alex

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On 27 Jun 1999 damos.yum@usa.net wrote:

> I am trying to install linux roughcuts(mips) on a dec 5000.  However I believe
> THAT MIPS CANNOT READ THE CD ROM FORMAT.  Is there any solutions to this
> problem as the commands we have used are correct and the hardware is detected.
>  I would be greatful of any assistance.  From Damien Harris

Have a look at http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/ how to install Linux
on a DECstation.

Regards,
Richard

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zs driver has a lot of bugs, I wonder if it might be safely used now.
There are places where we divide by zero and current kernels can't
handle appropriate exception (which is the breakpoint exception, btw)
inside the kernel. That's why the driver couldn't be tested. I
implemented the appropriate handler and am heavily testing the zs
driver. After that, I'll post the patch.

Considering your changes, I thing the second way won't help. I don't
understand clearly what is happened, but it looks either ALL_SNT never
set or it has been cleared before we enter the loop. I'll try the first
way ASAP. Tx_BUF_EMP seems to work (at least we didn't encounter any
problems with it in other places).

Regards,
Gleb.

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On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 06:11:52PM +0100, Andrew Linfoot wrote:

> CPU: MIPS-R4400 FPU<MIPS-R4400FPC> ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE

This is what the firmware detected.

> Loading R4000 MMU routines.

This will always say R4000 if it's a R4000 class CPU.

> CPU revision is: 00000450
> Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
> Primary data cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes)
> Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 128

Which says that you have an R4400SC V5.0.

> an interesting point here is that /proc/cpuinfo tells me i only have an
> r4000!

Good spotting, the CPU detection code has a bug causes only V4 CPUs to be
detected as R4400.  The difference is just cosmetics; R4000 and R4400 are
almost the same.  Especially it's unrelated to the file corruption problem.

  Ralf

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Hi,

On 27-Jun-99 Karel van Houten wrote:
> So I changed the loop in rs_wait_until_sent to:
> 
>       while ((read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 0) & Tx_BUF_EMP) == 0) {
>                 udelay(100);
>         }
> or 
> 
>       while ((read_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 1) & ALL_SNT) == 0) {
>                 udelay(100);
>         }
> 
> Both versions result in a much faster init, and no problems with the
> console for now.
> 
> Any comments from the kernel-specialists?

As Gleb already pointed out, there seems to be a strange behaviour wrt
ALL-SNT.

Maybe I'm simple naive but do we really need rs_wait_until_sent? Neither
the sgi nor the sparc serial drivers have one and I'm wondering if 
tty_wait_until_sent(...) would do the trick.

Personally I'd prefer kicking zs.c in the bin and write a new one. zs.c
is and was never ment to be anything else but a bad hack.

IMHO we really should think about a more general approach. Maintaining
five or six different zs drivers simply is a pain in the *ss and a generic
zs driver and some hardware specific helper routines for different
machines _does_ make much more sense, doesn't it?

---
Regards,
Harald

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On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 09:48:25PM +0200, Harald Koerfgen wrote:

> IMHO we really should think about a more general approach. Maintaining
> five or six different zs drivers simply is a pain in the *ss and a generic
> zs driver and some hardware specific helper routines for different
> machines _does_ make much more sense, doesn't it?

Yep, because I've got one more zs.c variant in my sources ...

  Ralf

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Ralf Baechle writes:
 > On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 09:37:23PM -0700, digital convergence wrote:
 > 
 > > btw, how well is native IRIX binary loading supported? I wish to run a
 > > copy of BMRT on my farm of indy's under linux, but it won't let me
 > > execute any of the binaries (they're R4000 optimised old style linkage
 > > bins)....
 > 
 > Only a limited number of syscalls and other interfaces is supported at
 > all and I haven't received any reports about the IRIX compatibility
 > stuff in ages.  Anybody interested in maintaining this facility?

       IRIX 4.* binaries are COFF binaries, not ELF, and have a very
different ABI from IRIX 5.* binaries.  The present support is really
for IRIX 5 binaries, which are much closer in interface semantics to
Linux native binaries.

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Hello Harald,

Harald Koerfgen wrote:
> 
> Maybe I'm simple naive but do we really need rs_wait_until_sent? Neither
> the sgi nor the sparc serial drivers have one and I'm wondering if
> tty_wait_until_sent(...) would do the trick.

There is a possibility that zs state is changed while tx buffer isn't
empty. Either we should reimplement driver for synchronous mode when we
wait for empty tx buffer at every transmit (and it will slow down
ppp/slip links). Or implement wait_until_sent.

> 
> Personally I'd prefer kicking zs.c in the bin and write a new one. zs.c
> is and was never ment to be anything else but a bad hack.

I'd like to note that I debugged DECstation zs at the point where it's
stable enough to carry terminal, keyboard, and mouse. The only thing I
have in TODO list is wait_until_sent. I think I'll ready to send a patch
during next week.

> 
> IMHO we really should think about a more general approach. Maintaining
> five or six different zs drivers simply is a pain in the *ss and a generic
> zs driver and some hardware specific helper routines for different
> machines _does_ make much more sense, doesn't it?

Let's wait until new implementation of the driver layer will come to
life. I mean the idea when we'll have bus independent drivers, dropped
Space.c, and driver initilization routines in an ELF section. It might
appear even in 2.3 series.

BTW, we've got at least 5 lance drivers (PC, Sparc, Atari, DECstation,
and Baget).

Ok. You might want to look at the following.

-static inline void zs_rtsdtr(struct dec_serial *ss, int set)
+static inline void zs_rtsdtr(struct dec_serial *info, int set)
 {
-       if (ss->zs_channel != ss->zs_chan_a) {
-               if (set)
-                       ss->zs_chan_a->curregs[5] |= (RTS | DTR);
-               else
-                       ss->zs_chan_a->curregs[5] &= ~(RTS | DTR);
-               write_zsreg(ss->zs_chan_a, 5,
ss->zs_chan_a->curregs[5]);
-       }
-       return;
+        unsigned long flags;
+
+        save_flags(flags); cli();
+        if(set) {
+                info->zs_channel->curregs[5] |= (RTS | DTR);
+        } else {
+                info->zs_channel->curregs[5] &= ~(RTS | DTR);
+        }
+       write_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 5, info->zs_channel->curregs[5]);
+       restore_flags(flags);
}

@@ -362,7 +395,8 @@
                *tty->flip.flag_buf_ptr++ = flag;
                *tty->flip.char_buf_ptr++ = ch;
        }
-       tty_flip_buffer_push(tty);
+       if (tty)
+               tty_flip_buffer_push(tty);
}

@@ -473,7 +507,30 @@
                        status_handle(info);
                }
        }
+       
+       // FIXME: is it really needed (and why) ?
+       write_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 0, RES_H_IUS);
}

@@ -667,9 +725,9 @@
 
        info->zs_channel->curregs[5] &= ~TxENAB;
        write_zsreg(info->zs_channel, 5, info->zs_channel->curregs[5]);
+
        if (!info->tty || C_HUPCL(info->tty)) {
-               info->zs_chan_a->curregs[5] &= ~(DTR | RTS);
-               write_zsreg(info->zs_chan_a, 5,
info->zs_chan_a->curregs[5]);
+               zs_rtsdtr(info, 0);
        }
 
        if (info->tty)

...

static void change_speed(struct dec_serial *info)
{
        unsigned short port;
        unsigned cflag;
        int     i;
        int     brg;
        unsigned long flags;
 
        if (!info->tty || !info->tty->termios)
                return;
        cflag = info->tty->termios->c_cflag;
        if (!(port = info->port))
                return;
        i = cflag & CBAUD;
        save_flags(flags); cli();
        info->zs_baud = baud_table[i];
        info->clk_divisor = 16;
-
-       switch (info->zs_baud) {
-       default:
+        if (info->zs_baud) {
                info->zs_channel->curregs[4] = X16CLK;
                brg = BPS_TO_BRG(info->zs_baud,
ZS_CLOCK/info->clk_divisor);
                info->zs_channel->curregs[12] = (brg & 255);
                info->zs_channel->curregs[13] = ((brg >> 8) & 255);
-       }
+               zs_rtsdtr(info, 1); 
+       } else {
+                zs_rtsdtr(info, 0);
+                return;
+       }
 
        /* byte size and parity */
        info->zs_channel->curregs[3] &= ~RxNBITS_MASK;

@@ -899,17 +964,7 @@
        }
 
        if (C_CRTSCTS(tty)) {
-               /*
-                * Here we want to turn off the RTS line.  On
Macintoshes,
-                * we only get the DTR line, which goes to both DTR and
-                * RTS on the modem.  RTS doesn't go out to the serial
-                * port socket.  So you should make sure your modem is
-                * set to ignore DTR if you're using CRTSCTS.
-                */
-               save_flags(flags); cli();
-               info->zs_chan_a->curregs[5] &= ~(DTR | RTS);
-               write_zsreg(info->zs_chan_a, 5,
info->zs_chan_a->curregs[5]);
-               restore_flags(flags);
+               zs_rtsdtr(info, 0);
        }
 }

@@ -941,11 +996,7 @@
        }
 
        if (C_CRTSCTS(tty)) {
-               /* Assert RTS and DTR lines */
-               save_flags(flags); cli();
-               info->zs_chan_a->curregs[5] |= DTR | RTS;
-               write_zsreg(info->zs_chan_a, 5,
info->zs_chan_a->curregs[5]);
-               restore_flags(flags);
+               zs_rtsdtr(info, 1);
        }
}

It's not a patch, but you might feel ideas. I copied most interesting
parts from the real patch I am prepearing and removed all Baget stuff.
Also, the part of the patch I sent before (considering wait_until_send)
was removed.

There is two fatal bugs fixed. First, missed check for NULL tty before
doing flip_buffer_push. Second, oversimplified switch with one default
case in change_spped which leads to division by zero.

Regards,
Gleb.

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Hi,

On 30-Jun-99 Gleb O. Raiko wrote:
> I'd like to note that I debugged DECstation zs at the point where it's
> stable enough to carry terminal, keyboard, and mouse. The only thing I
> have in TODO list is wait_until_sent. I think I'll ready to send a patch
> during next week.

Excellent! Do you see a chance to unify your Baget driver and the
DECstation driver?

As a side note, the B ports on the DECstations can do DMA...
 
> BTW, we've got at least 5 lance drivers (PC, Sparc, Atari, DECstation,
> and Baget).

Not to forget the HP 300 Series.

Yes, i noticed that too. I was thinking about using 7990.c and writing a
DECstation backend similar to hplance.c. I didn't do this because the
layouts of the shared memory (yes, there are three different ones for three
lance implementations!) are so weird that it's hardly possible to write a
driver that covers all three DECstation interfaces. That's why the support
for PMAD-AA cards (TURBOchannel ethernet interfaces) is broken.

The NetBSD people are working with shadow copies of the init block and the
ring descriptors. They're manipulating the copies and copy them to the
shared memory afterwards with specialzed copy routines. Although this is
an elegant solution from a code point of view I was trying to avoid this
additional copy.

Nevertheless, I haven't given up yet and I still have some ideas for a
unified lance driver.
---
Regards,
Harald

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Gang,

I just uploaded new versions of hz_patch.gz and r2300_patch.gz to
linux.sgi.com. These are against 2.2.10 from the CVS.

To be able to compile 2.2.10 for little endian R4k machines you'll need
semaphore_patch.gz, but be warned, the r4k version of down_trylock is know
to be not fully correct although it _seems_ to work.

Have fun.
---
Regards,
Harald

P.S.: No, the swap problem on R3k machines is still not solved :-(

