From triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com Mon Feb 1 00:04:49 1999 Received: from apt4g.a3nyc.com (triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com [166.84.184.179]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA03441; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:04:48 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:04:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (triemer@localhost) by apt4g.a3nyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03248 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:05:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:05:00 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Riemer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Good news and bad... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 555 Lines: 17 So the good news is that 1. The kernel did compile on the decstation 2100 2. The kernel does boot The bad news is that the kernel boots up into single user mode, but does not make it multi user... The point at which INIT is supposed to switch over to INIT mode 3... it hangs - or appears to hang. Possibly this is the patch that Gleb has been talking about... Can someone post the final patch that came out of that? -Tom Riemer ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Given enough eyeballs all bugs seem shallow. From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Mon Feb 1 06:39:30 1999 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA06584; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:39:29 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:39:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-23.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.187] with ESMTP for id GAA02347 (8.8.8/3.36); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:39:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:31:30 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:31:26 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DEC linux root file system uploaded In-Reply-To: <19990131022811.B5773@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 930 Lines: 25 On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 06:57:15PM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: > > > That's because of lack of a.out support of binutils, and as far as I > > understand will never happen in the official binutils. The solution for > > this is described at > > http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/html/mips/netboot.html > > I removed the a.out support from the binutils because I though nobody > would have any use for it anymore. Some time ago I discussed this with > Harald, his answer did was that there would be no real reason to add it > back. Perhaps because the need for it lasts longer then Harald expected. > If there is a good reason to add a.out back, just say so. It's > really a trivial change. It's only needed to get a DECstation loading Linux ;-) I've build a rpm package and load that up to decstation.unix-ag.org for as short as it is needed. Regards, Richard From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Mon Feb 1 06:39:32 1999 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA06588; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:39:31 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:39:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-23.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.187] with ESMTP for id GAA02352 (8.8.8/3.36); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:39:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:38:01 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:38:00 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: HZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 640 Lines: 18 Hello Harald, On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > here's a proposal for a solution of the HZ problem on the DECstations. I > am not exactly shure if everything is correct or if I have missed > something, comments are welcome. > > At least this patch _seems_ to work, the clock has the right speed and make > doesn't complain about clock skew anymore. While building a DECstation binutils rpm package the 5k/133 runs like a swiss clock with your patch applied at 2.1.131, tonight I'll hope to tell how the 5k/25 behaves with this kernel after compiling a kernel with the freshly created binutils rpm package. Regards, Richard From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Mon Feb 1 08:30:23 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA07985; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:30:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:30:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J781DHITOE0000GU@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:30:27 +0200 Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA28757; Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:30:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:30:13 +0100 From: "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" Subject: Re: DEC linux root file system uploaded In-reply-to: "Your message of Mon, 01 Feb 1999 06:31:26 +0100." To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Reply-to: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Message-id: <199902010730.IAA28757@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Face: ";:TzQQC{mTp~$W,'m4@Lu1Lu$rtG_~5kvYO~F:C'KExk9o1X"iRz[0%{bq?6Aj#>VhSD?v 1W9`.Qsf+P&*iQEL8&y,RDj&U.]!(R-?c-h5h%Iw%r$|%6+Jc>GTJe!_1&A0o'lC[`I#={2BzOXT1P q366I$WL=;[+SDo1RoIT+a}_y68Y:jQ^xp4=*4-ryiymi>hy Content-Length: 1352 Lines: 39 Richard v.d. Berg wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 06:57:15PM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: > > > > > That's because of lack of a.out support of binutils, and as far as I > > > understand will never happen in the official binutils. The solution for > > > this is described at > > > http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/html/mips/netboot.html > > > > I removed the a.out support from the binutils because I though nobody > > would have any use for it anymore. Some time ago I discussed this with > > Harald, his answer did was that there would be no real reason to add it > > back. > > Perhaps because the need for it lasts longer then Harald expected. > > > If there is a good reason to add a.out back, just say so. It's > > really a trivial change. > > It's only needed to get a DECstation loading Linux ;-) I've build a rpm > package and load that up to decstation.unix-ag.org for as short as it is > needed. My binutils is already available at: http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/binutils-2.8.1-2D.mipsel.rpm Regards, Karel. -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From hkoerfg1@ford.com Mon Feb 1 10:02:05 1999 Received: from mailfw1.ford.com (mailfw1.ford.com [136.1.1.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA08483; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:02 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:02 +0100 (MET) Received: by mailfw1.ford.com id EAA03678 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:01:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199902010901.EAA03678@mailfw1.ford.com> Received: by mailfw1.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:01:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:08:42 +0100 From: Harald Koerfgen Organization: Ford Motor Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-c32f404p (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DEC linux root file system uploaded References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1376 Lines: 37 Hi, Richard van den Berg wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 06:57:15PM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: > > > > > That's because of lack of a.out support of binutils, and as far as I > > > understand will never happen in the official binutils. The solution for > > > this is described at > > > http://www.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/html/mips/netboot.html > > > > I removed the a.out support from the binutils because I though nobody > > would have any use for it anymore. Some time ago I discussed this with > > Harald, his answer did was that there would be no real reason to add it > > back. > > Perhaps because the need for it lasts longer then Harald expected. Well, simply because nobody changed it. I focussed on getting the ball rolling instead of makeing the building process clean :-). > > If there is a good reason to add a.out back, just say so. It's > > really a trivial change. > > It's only needed to get a DECstation loading Linux ;-) I've build a rpm > package and load that up to decstation.unix-ag.org for as short as it is > needed. A trivial change to head.S and a little bit of makefile/linker script wizardy would not only make support for a.out unnecessary but would add back initrd support for _all_ MIPS platforms. This might be handy when it comes to installing Linux. Later, Harald From hkoerfg1@ford.com Mon Feb 1 10:02:06 1999 Received: from mailfw1.ford.com (mailfw1.ford.com [136.1.1.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA08484; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:04 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:02:04 +0100 (MET) Received: by mailfw1.ford.com id EAA03694 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:01:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199902010901.EAA03694@mailfw1.ford.com> Received: by mailfw1.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:01:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:18:53 +0100 From: Harald Koerfgen Organization: Ford Motor Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-c32f404p (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Good news and bad... References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0B40A117B53E46930649CECB" Content-Length: 2211 Lines: 76 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0B40A117B53E46930649CECB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Thomas Riemer wrote: > > So the good news is that > 1. The kernel did compile on the decstation 2100 > 2. The kernel does boot > > The bad news is that the kernel boots up into single > user mode, but does not make it multi user... > > The point at which INIT is supposed to switch over to INIT mode 3... > it hangs - or appears to hang. Not ot bad, isn't it? Tom, you'll need two patches to the binutils to be able to compile a working kernel: o Add back support for a.out, which you already did. o A patch to gas Gleb posted back in October. I'll attach that. > Possibly this is the patch that Gleb has been talking about... > Can someone post the final patch that came out of that? I'll do that this evening when I return home. Later, Harald --------------0B40A117B53E46930649CECB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="binutils-r3k.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="binutils-r3k.patch" --- binutils-2.8.1.orig/opcodes/mips-opc.c Mon May 26 21:34:19 1997 +++ binutils-2.8.1/opcodes/mips-opc.c Wed Oct 7 14:16:21 1998 @@ -655,10 +655,10 @@ {"tgeu", "s,t", 0x00000031, 0xfc00003f, RD_s|RD_t|I2|TRAP }, {"tgeu", "s,j", 0x04090000, 0xfc1f0000, RD_s|I2|TRAP }, /* tgeiu */ {"tgeu", "s,I", 2, (int) M_TGEU_I, INSN_MACRO }, -{"tlbp", "", 0x42000008, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB }, -{"tlbr", "", 0x42000001, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB }, -{"tlbwi", "", 0x42000002, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB }, -{"tlbwr", "", 0x42000006, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB }, +{"tlbp", "", 0x42000008, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB|INSN_COP|COD }, +{"tlbr", "", 0x42000001, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB|INSN_COP|COD }, +{"tlbwi", "", 0x42000002, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB|INSN_COP|COD }, +{"tlbwr", "", 0x42000006, 0xffffffff, INSN_TLB|INSN_COP|COD }, {"tlti", "s,j", 0x040a0000, 0xfc1f0000, RD_s|I2|TRAP }, {"tlt", "s,t", 0x00000032, 0xfc00003f, RD_s|RD_t|I2|TRAP }, {"tlt", "s,j", 0x040a0000, 0xfc1f0000, RD_s|I2|TRAP }, /* tlti */ --------------0B40A117B53E46930649CECB-- From raiko@niisi.msk.ru Mon Feb 1 10:23:06 1999 Received: from t111.niisi.ras.ru (root@t111.niisi.ras.ru [193.232.173.111]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA08800; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:22:45 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:22:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from t06.niisi.ras.ru (t06.niisi.ras.ru [193.232.173.6]) by t111.niisi.ras.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA30008 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:22:38 +0300 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by t06.niisi.ras.ru (8.7.6/8.7.3) with UUCP id MAA18997 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:48:06 +0300 Received: from niisi.msk.ru (t34 [193.232.173.34]) by niisi.msk.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28110 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:14:34 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <36B572A4.1D225799@niisi.msk.ru> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:23:48 +0300 From: "Gleb O. Raiko" Organization: NIISI RAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Good news and bad... References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D7021A4988BD5D5EA8F6A6E4" Content-Length: 4173 Lines: 108 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D7021A4988BD5D5EA8F6A6E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas, > The point at which INIT is supposed to switch over to INIT mode 3... > it hangs - or appears to hang. > > Possibly this is the patch that Gleb has been talking about... > Can someone post the final patch that came out of that? > Attached here is part of the final patch I've sent to Harald. (I removed the Baget-specific part from the original patch.) The patch fixes two bugs I and Vladimir encountered in 2.1.131. One bug is that init hangs while switching to runlevel 3 due to a process doesn't switch to the user mode correctly. Another one is that a system call with 4 arguments aren't restarted properly. (The last argument contains garbage.) Ralf sent a patch for the latter problem in the list, it's supposed to be an old bug as Ralf said. I still have problems with 2.1.131, but I am not sure these problems are related to 2.1.131 only. For example, gdb still aren't built from sources, gcc gets signal 11, but it might be due to 2.1.131 is bigger and I just see the fact ram is ended up. (There is still no support for swapping over network and support for such kind of swapping seems to be insoluble with current design of the kernel.) Another problem is related to gdb again. It can't get contents of the CPU registers from the kernel, namely, float registers and badvaddr. Again, I don't know whether it's only 2.1.131 problem. Regards, Gleb Raiko. --------------D7021A4988BD5D5EA8F6A6E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; name="core-2.1.131pl0.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="core-2.1.131pl0.patch" Index: linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/process.c diff -u linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/process.c:1.1.1.1 linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/process.c:1.2 --- linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/process.c:1.1.1.1 Mon Jan 11 16:08:21 1999 +++ linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/process.c Mon Jan 25 16:37:12 1999 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ void start_thread(struct pt_regs * regs, unsigned long pc, unsigned long sp) { /* New thread looses kernel privileges. */ - regs->cp0_status = (regs->cp0_status & ~(ST0_CU0|ST0_KSU)) | KU_USER; + regs->cp0_status = (regs->cp0_status & ~(ST0_CU0|KU_MASK)) | KU_USER; regs->cp0_epc = pc; regs->regs[29] = sp; current->tss.current_ds = USER_DS; Index: linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/scall_o32.S diff -u linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/scall_o32.S:1.1.1.1 linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/scall_o32.S:1.3 --- linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/scall_o32.S:1.1.1.1 Mon Jan 11 16:08:21 1999 +++ linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/scall_o32.S Thu Jan 28 16:34:32 1999 @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ #include #include #include +#include #include /* This duplicates the definition from */ @@ -46,7 +47,8 @@ subu t0, t3, 5 # 5 or more arguments? bgez t0, stackargs -stack_done: +stack_done: + sw a3, PT_R26(sp) # save for syscall restart lw t0, TASK_FLAGS($28) # syscall tracing enabled? andi t0, PF_TRACESYS bnez t0, trace_a_syscall @@ -69,7 +71,7 @@ bnez t0,o32_handle_bottom_half 9: lw t0,PT_STATUS(sp) # returning to kernel mode? - andi t1, t0, 0x10 + andi t1, t0, KU_USER lw t2, TASK_NEED_RESCHED($28) beqz t1, o32_return # -> yes bnez t2, o32_reschedule Index: linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/signal.c diff -u linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/signal.c:1.1.1.1 linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/signal.c:1.2 --- linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/signal.c:1.1.1.1 Mon Jan 11 16:08:21 1999 +++ linux-2.1.131/arch/mips/kernel/signal.c Thu Jan 28 16:34:32 1999 @@ -392,6 +392,7 @@ } /* fallthrough */ case ERESTARTNOINTR: /* Userland will reload $v0. */ + regs->regs[7] = regs->regs[26]; regs->cp0_epc -= 8; } @@ -525,6 +526,7 @@ if (regs->regs[2] == ERESTARTNOHAND || regs->regs[2] == ERESTARTSYS || regs->regs[2] == ERESTARTNOINTR) { + regs->regs[7] = regs->regs[26]; regs->cp0_epc -= 8; } } --------------D7021A4988BD5D5EA8F6A6E4-- From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Mon Feb 1 10:31:23 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA08886; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:20 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J785L5OF6Q0000BO@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:10 +0200 Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02116; Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:30:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:30:56 +0100 From: "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" Subject: Re: Good news and bad... In-reply-to: "Your message of Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:18:53 +0100." <199902010901.EAA03694@mailfw1.ford.com> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Reply-to: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Message-id: <199902010930.KAA02116@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Face: ";:TzQQC{mTp~$W,'m4@Lu1Lu$rtG_~5kvYO~F:C'KExk9o1X"iRz[0%{bq?6Aj#>VhSD?v 1W9`.Qsf+P&*iQEL8&y,RDj&U.]!(R-?c-h5h%Iw%r$|%6+Jc>GTJe!_1&A0o'lC[`I#={2BzOXT1P q366I$WL=;[+SDo1RoIT+a}_y68Y:jQ^xp4=*4-ryiymi>hy Content-Length: 851 Lines: 31 Harald wrote: > Hi, > > Tom, you'll need two patches to the binutils to be able to compile a > working kernel: > > o Add back support for a.out, which you already did. > > o A patch to gas Gleb posted back in October. I'll attach that. > > > Possibly this is the patch that Gleb has been talking about... > > Can someone post the final patch that came out of that? > > I'll do that this evening when I return home. > I'll recompile binutils with the R3k patch this evening, and put it on my website http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel The binutils there does contain a.out support. Regards, -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Mon Feb 1 19:53:43 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA11464; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:53:41 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:53:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J78P8PWWI40000T5@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:53:44 +0200 Received: by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA22125; Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:53:28 +0100 X-URL: http://www-lsdm.research.kpn.com/~karel Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:53:28 +0100 (MET) From: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Karel van Houten) Subject: binutils for DECStations updated To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Houten K.H.C. van ) Message-id: <199902011853.TAA22125@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 460 Lines: 16 Hi all, I've updated my binutils package on http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel with the R3k patch from Harald. Here's direct link: http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel/binutils-2.8.1-2D1.mipsel.rpm Good luck! -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Mon Feb 1 22:22:11 1999 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA12600; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:22:10 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:22:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-28.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.192] with ESMTP for id WAA18639 (8.8.8/3.36); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:22:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:21:33 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:21:32 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Good news and bad... In-Reply-To: <36B572A4.1D225799@niisi.msk.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 3814 Lines: 111 On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Gleb O. Raiko wrote: > Thomas, > > > The point at which INIT is supposed to switch over to INIT mode 3... > > it hangs - or appears to hang. > > > > Possibly this is the patch that Gleb has been talking about... > > Can someone post the final patch that came out of that? > > > > Attached here is part of the final patch I've sent to Harald. (I removed > the Baget-specific part from the original patch.) The patch fixes two > bugs I and Vladimir encountered in 2.1.131. One bug is that init hangs > while switching to runlevel 3 due to a process doesn't switch to the > user mode correctly. Another one is that a system call with 4 arguments > aren't restarted properly. (The last argument contains garbage.) Ralf > sent a patch for the latter problem in the list, it's supposed to be an > old bug as Ralf said. I haven't applied Ralf's patch. > I still have problems with 2.1.131, but I am not sure these problems are > related to 2.1.131 only. For example, gdb still aren't built from > sources, gcc gets signal 11, but it might be due to 2.1.131 is bigger > and I just see the fact ram is ended up. (There is still no support for > swapping over network and support for such kind of swapping seems to be > insoluble with current design of the kernel.) Another problem is related > to gdb again. It can't get contents of the CPU registers from the > kernel, namely, float registers and badvaddr. Again, I don't know > whether it's only 2.1.131 problem. First following output is with your patch applied and second without. Both with a verbose init as you can see and Karel's latest rootimage. Would this be because Ralfs patch is missing or is something else going on? Regards, Richard Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed INIT: version 2.76 booting INIT: Reading inittab INIT: Checking for children to kill INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: Started id si (pid 6) init_main: waiting.. Mon Feb 1 21:41:05 1999 Activating swap partitions hostname: MAXine Checking root filesystems. Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) [/sbin/fsck.nfs] fsck.nfs -a /dev/root Checking filesystems. Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) Checking all file systems. ---------------------------------- Mounting local filesystems. can't set font Setting clock: Mon Feb 1 21:41:15 CET 1999 Enabling swap space. Initializing random number generator... INIT: chld_handler: marked 6 as zombie Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed INIT: version 2.76 booting INIT: Reading inittab INIT: Checking for children to kill INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: Started id si (pid 6) INIT: ain: waiting.. Mon Feb 1 22:07:03 1999 Activating swap partitions hostname: MAXine Checking root filesystems. Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) [/sbin/fsck.nfs] fsck.nfs -a /dev/root Checking filesystems. Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) Checking all file systems. ---------------------------------- Mounting local filesystems. can't set font Setting clock: Mon Feb 1 22:07:12 CET 1999 Enabling swap space. Initializing random number generator... INIT: chld_handler: marked 6 as zombie INIT: got SIGCHLD INIT: Child died, PID= 6 INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: SYSINIT -> BOOT INIT: init_main: waiting.. INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: BOOT -> NORMAL INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 INIT: init_main: waiting.. INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: Started id l3 (pid 46) INIT: init_main: waiting.. Starting system loggers: syslogd klogd The system is ready INIT: chld_handler: marked 46 as zombie INIT: got SIGCHLD INIT: Child died, PID= 46 INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: Started id ud (pi2) INIT: Started id s0 (pid 83) INIT: chld_handler: marked 82 as zombie INIT: it_main: waiting.. INIT: got SIGCHLD INIT: Child died, PID= 82 From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Feb 3 03:08:56 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA23304; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:08:55 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:08:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.4]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA11743 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:08:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA03056; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:58:22 +0100 Message-ID: <19990202045822.D1596@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:58:22 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Richard van den Berg , linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Good news and bad... References: <36B572A4.1D225799@niisi.msk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Richard van den Berg on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:21:32PM +0100 Content-Length: 885 Lines: 18 On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:21:32PM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: > > Attached here is part of the final patch I've sent to Harald. (I removed > > the Baget-specific part from the original patch.) The patch fixes two > > bugs I and Vladimir encountered in 2.1.131. One bug is that init hangs > > while switching to runlevel 3 due to a process doesn't switch to the > > user mode correctly. Another one is that a system call with 4 arguments > > aren't restarted properly. (The last argument contains garbage.) Ralf > > sent a patch for the latter problem in the list, it's supposed to be an > > old bug as Ralf said. > > I haven't applied Ralf's patch. Btw, the final patch which I'm using is slightly different from what I've originally posted. Not only that it's prooven to work, it also should do so without any extra cycles in the syscall path for the common case. Ralf From raiko@niisi.msk.ru Wed Feb 3 00:21:33 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA20340; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:21:32 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:21:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from t111.niisi.ras.ru (t111.niisi.ras.ru [193.232.173.111]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id OAA19412; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:26:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from t06.niisi.ras.ru (t06.niisi.ras.ru [193.232.173.6]) by t111.niisi.ras.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08209 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:22:18 +0300 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by t06.niisi.ras.ru (8.7.6/8.7.3) with UUCP id QAA09676 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:48:32 +0300 Received: from niisi.msk.ru (t34 [193.232.173.34]) by niisi.msk.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03303 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:12:07 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <36B6FBD8.3C096964@niisi.msk.ru> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:21:28 +0300 From: "Gleb O. Raiko" Organization: NIISI RAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Good news and bad... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 435 Lines: 13 > I haven't applied Ralf's patch. I've incorporated Ralf's fixes in my patch. > First following output is with your patch applied and second without. Both > with a verbose init as you can see and Karel's latest rootimage. Would > this be because Ralfs patch is missing or is something else going on? Have you applied my r3k patch to your binutils ? Without it there are no chances to get the latest kernels working. Regards, Gleb. From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Wed Feb 3 00:21:07 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA20271; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:21:05 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:21:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id RAA21754; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:33:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port18.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.18]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17159 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:29:59 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:32:16 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: patch-2.1.131-pl1 Content-Length: 548 Lines: 19 Hi all, I have just uploaded patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz to decstation.unix-ag.org. This should bring all the DECstation and Baget hackers back in sync. It contains: o Tom's dz and lance fixes o Gleb's and Vladimir's core fixes plus baget fixes o some minor zs fixes from me plus the HZ patch o efs fixes from the CVS This patch is against a vanilla 2.1.131 source tree from decstation.unix-ag.org (unless I have done something wrong) and compiles nicely on my Intel box and boots to multiuser on both of my DECstations. Have fun. --- Regards, Harald From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Wed Feb 3 00:20:41 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA20221; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:20:40 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:20:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id TAA22896; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:16:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J7A270PBZQ0000U8@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:15:00 +0200 Received: by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA03543; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:14:49 +0100 X-URL: http://www-lsdm.research.kpn.com/~karel Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:14:49 +0100 (MET) From: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Karel van Houten) Subject: Working modutils for DECStation Linux ?? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Houten K.H.C. van ) Message-id: <199902021814.TAA03543@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 468 Lines: 16 Hi all, I'm trying to make my kernel modular, but although the kernel, the modules, and modutils (modutils-2.1.121) compile OK, I get 'unresolved symbol's trying to 'insmod' any module. Modprobe just segfaults. Anyone? -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Wed Feb 3 00:20:12 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA20127; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:20:11 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:20:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id VAA23705; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:09:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-11.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.175] with ESMTP for id VAA19929 (8.8.8/3.36); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:06:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:00:55 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:00:55 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Recently on a Personal DECstation 5000/25 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1073 Lines: 33 Hello DECstation fans, Following has been done with a kernel including Haralds HZ patch, Karels latest rootimage, additional development packages _and_ the binutils-2.8.1-3 rpm soon to be available at the DECstation web site. Regards, Richard $ date; make oldconfig dep clean netboot; date Tue Feb 2 16:51:30 CET 1999 rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-mips asm) gcc -O2 -o scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c /bin/sh scripts/Configure -d arch/mips/config.in # # Using defaults found in .config # ... gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r3000 -mips1 -pipe -c -o decstation.o decstation.c rm -f dec_boot.o ld -r -o dec_boot.o decstation.o ld -N -G 0 -T ld.ecoff ../../boot/zImage \ dec_boot.o ramdisk.img -o nbImage make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/mips/dec/boot' Tue Feb 2 19:48:02 CET 1999 $ uptime; date; rdate whale 8:03pm up 3:15, 0 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.38 Tue Feb 2 20:03:53 CET 1999 Tue Feb 2 20:03:55 1999 From chouqu_m@epita.fr Wed Feb 3 00:20:06 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA20105; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:20:05 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:20:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from hermes.epita.fr (hermes.epita.fr [194.98.116.10]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id VAA23844; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:35:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from aux.epita.fr (aux.epita.fr [10.42.1.37]) by hermes.epita.fr id VAA26373 for EPITA Paris France Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:33:26 GMT From: mathieu chouquet-stringer Received: from guiscar.epita.fr [10.42.1.49] by aux.epita.fr for linux-mips@fnet.fr Paris France Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:33:49 GMT Message-ID: <19990202213304.40063@guiscar.epita.fr> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:33:04 +0000 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Web site ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Content-Length: 87 Lines: 3 Is the web site down ? -- Mathieu CHOUQUET-STRINGER E-Mail : chouqu_m@epita.fr From damin@intel.cleveland.lug.net Wed Feb 3 03:02:00 1999 Received: from intel.cleveland.lug.net (damin@intel.cleveland.lug.net [207.166.193.101]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA23189; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:01:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:01:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (damin@localhost) by intel.cleveland.lug.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA23719 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:07:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:07:18 -0500 (EST) From: Greg To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: rpm packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1169 Lines: 33 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Alex deVries wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Greg wrote: > > > > I'm not sure about cross platform ability, but we have an archive of > > RedHat 5.2 RPMS that were built on a Coablt Qube. I'd be interested in > > seeing if the RPMS actually work on anything OTHER than a Qube. > > Ah, yes, this RH mipsel port. Looks cool. Are your packages labeled as > mipsel? Yes. All are built as "mipsel". > Also, if you send me which changes were maded to the source rpms, I can > see about having them merged into the RH source tree. Mail me at > puffin@redhat.com. For every package that is currently up there, -0- changes were made to the original .src.rpms to get them to compile. All we did was satisfy the dependencies by building RPMS that were required to build other RPMS. Unfortunately, we are dead in the water until Cobalt ships us a development Qube that we can beat up on and break in many ways. Our development box has been re-possessed by the original owner and placed into production after our efforts were wiped off the drive. The archive is all the exists until we have another development Qube to work on.. Anyone donatin? From mtidwell@mail.com Wed Feb 3 03:15:29 1999 Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA23378; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:15:28 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:15:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from [207.5.59.149] (dial149.magiclink.net [207.5.59.149]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA17898 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:14:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B7B0E9.FC560131@mail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:14:01 -0800 From: "montgomery f. tidwell" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: MIPS Magnum 3000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 67 Lines: 6 Howdy, what is that status of this port?? \\//_ From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Feb 5 03:55:51 1999 Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ip39.cb.resolution.de [195.30.142.39]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA19782; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 03:55:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 03:55:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA04822; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:45:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19990203044510.F3920@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:45:10 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Karel van Houten , linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Working modutils for DECStation Linux ?? References: <199902021814.TAA03543@sparta.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199902021814.TAA03543@sparta.research.kpn.com>; from Karel van Houten on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 07:14:49PM +0100 Content-Length: 358 Lines: 13 On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 07:14:49PM +0100, Karel van Houten wrote: > I'm trying to make my kernel modular, but although the kernel, > the modules, and modutils (modutils-2.1.121) compile OK, > I get 'unresolved symbol's trying to 'insmod' any module. What symbols are unresolved? > Modprobe just segfaults. Known problem, thanks for the reminder. Ralf From triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com Wed Feb 3 05:21:35 1999 Received: from apt4g.a3nyc.com (triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com [166.84.184.179]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA24240; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:21:30 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:21:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (triemer@localhost) by apt4g.a3nyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07088 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:21:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:21:34 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Riemer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: patch-2.1.131-pl1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1317 Lines: 41 Heh... this sounds very cool - only one slight problem.... where on decstation.unix-ag.org can I find this patch? I tried the likely suspects: http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/2.1.131/patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz I give up... can someone tell me the full URL where the patch lives? Sigh, how sad... please all, lament the loss of a complete night of compilation time... (Never thought I would think in those terms... guess that's what happens when you have a machine that takes 5 hours to compile.) -Tom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Given enough eyeballs all bugs seem shallow. On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > Hi all, > > I have just uploaded patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz to decstation.unix-ag.org. This > should bring all the DECstation and Baget hackers back in sync. It > contains: > > o Tom's dz and lance fixes > o Gleb's and Vladimir's core fixes plus baget fixes > o some minor zs fixes from me plus the HZ patch > o efs fixes from the CVS > > This patch is against a vanilla 2.1.131 source tree from > decstation.unix-ag.org (unless I have done something wrong) and compiles > nicely on my Intel box and boots to multiuser on both of my DECstations. > > Have fun. > --- > Regards, > Harald > From lembark@wrkhors.com Wed Feb 3 10:58:14 1999 Received: from bird.wrkhors.com (bird.wrkhors.com [206.180.156.161]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA28049; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:58:10 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:58:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from wrkhors.com (poolf10-100.wwa.com [207.241.61.229]) by bird.wrkhors.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07611 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:58:54 -0600 Sender: lembark@wrkhors.com Message-ID: <36B81D9D.F1D09CB5@wrkhors.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 03:57:49 -0600 From: Steven Lembark Organization: Workhorse Computing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DEC linux root file system uploaded References: <199901311518.QAA09023@sparta.research.kpn.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms11ECA63DD60F5F85F3EE457C" Content-Length: 4827 Lines: 82 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms11ECA63DD60F5F85F3EE457C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've finally managed to get my DECStation running a NATIVE compiled kernel! > > Thanks to Richard for pointing me to the last missing part. > > I have made a mini HOWTO on my website about how to do it: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel thanx. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. 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id MAA29410; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:55:38 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:55:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from thistle.inmos.co.uk (thistle.bri.st.com [138.198.1.7]) by poke.dmz.st.com (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12651; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:55:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from cougar ([138.198.35.31]) by thistle.inmos.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 1080jK-0001yo-00; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:26 +0000 Received: from rji by cougar with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 1080jK-0004hV-00; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:26 +0000 From: Richard Ingram Message-Id: <9902031144.ZM18071@bristol.st.com> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: "montgomery f. tidwell" "MIPS Magnum 3000" (Feb 2, 6:14pm) References: <36B7B0E9.FC560131@mail.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 3000 Cc: mtidwell@mail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 221 Lines: 7 If you find out let me know as I have an RC3330 which I may stop from going to the skip. It does not have mono/colour graphics as it was used as a server, but I do have a serial terminal I can hang off it. Richard. -- From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Wed Feb 3 17:10:26 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA00813; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:10:16 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:10:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J7BC4E1C5S00015S@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:10:04 +0200 Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA09278; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:09:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:09:58 +0100 From: "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" Subject: Re: Working modutils for DECStation Linux ?? In-reply-to: "Your message of Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:45:10 +0100." <19990203044510.F3920@uni-koblenz.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: Karel van Houten Reply-to: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Message-id: <199902031609.RAA09278@sparta.research.kpn.com> X-Face: ";:TzQQC{mTp~$W,'m4@Lu1Lu$rtG_~5kvYO~F:C'KExk9o1X"iRz[0%{bq?6Aj#>VhSD?v 1W9`.Qsf+P&*iQEL8&y,RDj&U.]!(R-?c-h5h%Iw%r$|%6+Jc>GTJe!_1&A0o'lC[`I#={2BzOXT1P q366I$WL=;[+SDo1RoIT+a}_y68Y:jQ^xp4=*4-ryiymi>hy Content-Length: 1154 Lines: 39 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: >On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 07:14:49PM +0100, Karel van Houten wrote: > >> I'm trying to make my kernel modular, but although the kernel, >> the modules, and modutils (modutils-2.1.121) compile OK, >> I get 'unresolved symbol's trying to 'insmod' any module. > >What symbols are unresolved? For example: # insmod -p block/rd.o block/rd.o: unresolved symbol end_that_request_last block/rd.o: unresolved symbol block_write block/rd.o: unresolved symbol unregister_blkdev block/rd.o: unresolved symbol register_blkdev block/rd.o: unresolved symbol panic block/rd.o: unresolved symbol end_that_request_first block/rd.o: unresolved symbol block_fsync block/rd.o: unresolved symbol blk_dev block/rd.o: unresolved symbol invalidate_buffers block/rd.o: unresolved symbol printk block/rd.o: unresolved symbol blksize_size block/rd.o: unresolved symbol block_read (Trying to insert fs/ufs.o gets a much longer list). > >> Modprobe just segfaults. > >Known problem, thanks for the reminder. > > Ralf This both happens with src/modutils-1.2.121.tar.gz, and redhat/5.2/SRPMS/modutils-2.1.121-4.src.rpm from ftp.linux.sgi.com. Karel. From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Wed Feb 3 17:22:10 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA00931; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:22:03 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:22:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port20.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.20]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06468 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:21:52 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:24:03 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: patch-2.1.131-pl1 Content-Length: 924 Lines: 29 Hi, On 03-Feb-99 Thomas Riemer wrote: > Heh... this sounds very cool - only one slight problem.... > where on decstation.unix-ag.org can I find this patch? > > I tried the likely suspects: > http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz > http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/2.1.131/patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz > > I give up... can someone tell me the full URL where the patch lives? Well, I am not the web maintainer of decstation.unix-ag.org. The patch will be available for download as soon as Michael puts it there. > Sigh, how sad... please all, lament the loss of a complete night of > compilation time... > (Never thought I would think in those terms... guess > that's what happens when you have a machine that takes 5 hours to > compile.) Ok, you conviced me. In the meantime the patch is available via ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz Have fun. --- Regards, Harald From raiko@niisi.msk.ru Thu Feb 4 14:16:28 1999 Received: from t111.niisi.ras.ru (root@t111.niisi.ras.ru [193.232.173.111]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA09232; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:12:46 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:12:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from t06.niisi.ras.ru (t06.niisi.ras.ru [193.232.173.6]) by t111.niisi.ras.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27465 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:11:44 +0300 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by t06.niisi.ras.ru (8.7.6/8.7.3) with UUCP id QAA15594 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:40:18 +0300 Received: from niisi.msk.ru (t34 [193.232.173.34]) by niisi.msk.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21039 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:03:43 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <36B99CE3.1DF70494@niisi.msk.ru> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:13:07 +0300 From: "Gleb O. Raiko" Organization: NIISI RAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-mips@fnet.fr" Subject: [HELP]:MIPS Millennium 4000SC-50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 930 Lines: 20 Hello folks, I've found a box with label MIPS Millennium 4000SC-50 which I identify as a Magnum computer. It has EISA slots, onboard Sonic Ethernet card and a SCSI controller (plus audio channels but it's not so interested for me). The box has RISC/os installed and operates in big endian mode. I am interesting in having Linux in it running in big endian mode also. Certainly, I would like to spend some efforts and port Linux if nobody has done such a port. (I know Linux runs on Magnum in little endian mode, nut I am not sure there is a port with big endiean one.) So, could anybody explain how to boot the box over network (best case) or from a floppy? Also, are there programmer's manulas for this box, especially its interrupt controller, Sonic Ethernet card, and a SCSI controller. Sorry, I don't know what SCSI controller is installed onboard, but I think there should be only one for all Magnums. :-) Regards, Gleb. From alhaz@xmission.com Thu Feb 4 16:53:39 1999 Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA10820; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:53:36 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:53:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from alhaz.users.xmission.com ([207.135.128.199] helo=xmission.com ident=alhaz) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 108R5l-00014a-00 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:53:22 -0700 Sender: alhaz@fnet.fr Message-ID: <36B9C26D.6869E0CF@xmission.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:53:17 -0700 From: Eric Jorgensen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: [HELP]:MIPS Millennium 4000SC-50 References: <36B99CE3.1DF70494@niisi.msk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2650 Lines: 51 "Gleb O. Raiko" wrote: > I am interesting in having Linux in it running in big endian mode also. > Certainly, I would like to spend some efforts and port Linux if nobody > has done such a port. (I know Linux runs on Magnum in little endian > mode, nut I am not sure there is a port with big endiean one.) > > So, could anybody explain how to boot the box over network (best case) > or from a floppy? Also, are there programmer's manulas for this box, > especially its interrupt controller, Sonic Ethernet card, and a SCSI > controller. Sorry, I don't know what SCSI controller is installed > onboard, but I think there should be only one for all Magnums. :-) I'm not sure why you want to run linux in big-endian mode on it, but to each his own. This is a bi-endian machine, and most of the work on mips porting software has been to the little-endian target. I have a Magnum 4000pc-50 that i'm building up to installing Linux on. I think what we really need here is some sort of howto. I mean, I get the impression that i can download a bootdisk image, and find a root filesystem, and get packages. It's the specifics that I'm lacking. The current status of my Magnum: installed 32 megs of ram the hard way, plugged in keyboard, turned it on. The little POST led shows many various numbers, and then goes blank. I hear that this is a Good Thing. I have a Sun monitor that should support the sync rate of the video card, if I build it a special cable to convert the sync from separate to composite. Or i could just adapt it to plug into my 17" SVGA. I haven't gone there yet. I need to pick up about a 1gb scsi drive for it. I have a 6-foot high quality video cable with all pins connected to a 13W3 that was hacked off the back of an exploded (yup, glass all over the place) 19" Sun monitor. Shouldn't be too hard once i figure out which wire goes to which pin, but there's exactly as many conductors as there are pins on the connector. I know very little about the history of my Magnum. I bought it from a local university that was having a surplus sale. It cost me $5, came with the video and sound and ethernet boards, but no memory and no harddrives and no external peripherals. I heard that a CS professor had retired, and that nobody wanted his collection of oddball computers, so they stripped them for reusable parts and surplused the lot. If people want to regurgitate the info, I could help compile a how-to. - Eric -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Geek for sale! http://we.areb.org/~alhaz/resume.html | ----------------------------------------------------------------- From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Thu Feb 4 17:15:06 1999 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA11835; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:14:56 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:14:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-30.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.194] with ESMTP for id RAA29656 (8.8.8/3.36); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:14:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:14:17 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:14:16 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: patch-2.1.131-pl1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2755 Lines: 83 Hello Harald, On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > I have just uploaded patch-2.1.131-pl1.gz to decstation.unix-ag.org. This > should bring all the DECstation and Baget hackers back in sync. It > contains: > o Tom's dz and lance fixes > o Gleb's and Vladimir's core fixes plus baget fixes > o some minor zs fixes from me plus the HZ patch > o efs fixes from the CVS > This patch is against a vanilla 2.1.131 source tree from > decstation.unix-ag.org (unless I have done something wrong) and compiles > nicely on my Intel box and boots to multiuser on both of my DECstations. That's basicly the same for a native compiled kernel with egcs after changing mipsel-linux-ld in arch/mips/dec/boot/Makefile to $(LD). After running /etc/rc.d/rc.sysconfig the fun with init starts: Enabling swap space. Initializing random number generator... INIT: chld_handler: marked 6 as zombie INIT: got SIGCHLD INIT: Child died, PID= 6 INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: SYSINIT -> BOOT INIT: init_main: waiting.. INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: BOOT -> NORMAL INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 INIT: init_main: waiting.. INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: Started id l3 (pid 48) INIT: init_main: waiting.. Starting system loggers: syslogd klogd The system is ready INIT: chld_handler: marked 46 as zombie INIT: got SIGCHLD INIT: Child died, PID= 48 INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: Started id ud (pid 84) INIT: Started id s0 (pid 85) INIT: init_main: waiting.. INIT: chld_handler: marked 84 as zombie INIT: got SIGCHLD INIT: Child died, PID= 84 INIT: Checking for children to start INIT: init_main: waiting.. These are the according times: Starting with an entry from the boot server daemon.log file Feb 3 21:38:03 whale bootpd[2674]: version 2.4.3 and the messages file created by the DECstation Feb 3 21:52:24 MAXine syslogd 1.3-3: restart. ... Feb 3 21:52:32 MAXine init: chld_handler: marked 48 as zombie Feb 3 21:53:43 MAXine init: got SIGCHLD Feb 3 21:54:53 MAXine init: Child died, PID= 48 Feb 3 21:56:04 MAXine init: Checking for children to start Feb 3 21:57:14 MAXine init: Started id ud (pid 84) Feb 3 21:57:14 MAXine init: Started id s0 (pid 85) Feb 3 21:57:15 MAXine init: init_main: waiting.. Feb 3 21:57:15 MAXine init: chld_handler: marked 84 as zombie Feb 3 21:57:15 MAXine init: got SIGCHLD Feb 3 21:57:15 MAXine init: Child died, PID= 84 Feb 3 21:57:15 MAXine init: Checking for children to start Feb 3 21:57:15 MAXine init: init_main: waiting.. This was on the 5k/25 on the 133 init has the same speed. Currently an Intel-box is compiling a kernel with gcc, with the same configuration, see if that makes any difference. Harald would you send me your .config and init? Regards, Richard From adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca Thu Feb 4 17:31:42 1999 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (adevries@lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA12822; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:31:39 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:31:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18028 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:34:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: [HELP]:MIPS Millennium 4000SC-50 In-Reply-To: <36B9C26D.6869E0CF@xmission.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 851 Lines: 24 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Eric Jorgensen wrote: > I'm not sure why you want to run linux in big-endian mode on it, but to > each his own. This is a bi-endian machine, and most of the work on mips > porting software has been to the little-endian target. Uh, just to clarify this: there is a pretty sizeable mipseb porting project, although traditionally it's targetted towards SGI hardware. From the userland perspective, we've had Red Hat 5.1 ported for about half a year, and you can even buy it on CD from Red Hat (unsupported). Certainly, though, there've been many more different mipsel machines ported, primarily because there are more different ones, and on the SGI side we've stuck to pretty much one machine, the Indy. But mipseb development is very active. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. I know exactly what I want in life. From enger@skoleetaten.oslo.no Thu Feb 4 18:02:52 1999 Received: from online.no (pilt-s.online.no [148.122.208.18]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA13913; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:02:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:02:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from John (sk107.skoleetaten.oslo.no [194.143.108.108]) by online.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA16499 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:02:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000701be505f$fd7b8b40$4301a8c0@John.kurs.ensjoe.no> From: "John Enger" To: Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:01:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5068.5EE2DF20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Length: 1784 Lines: 53 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5068.5EE2DF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have been browsing thru your pages, and tried to compile a kernel for = my DecStation 2100 from various sources. 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5068.5EE2DF20-- From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Thu Feb 4 18:57:20 1999 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA14664; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:57:18 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:57:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-13.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.177] with ESMTP id SAA19023 (8.8.8/3.36); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:57:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:55:13 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:55:13 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: John Enger cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! In-Reply-To: <000701be505f$fd7b8b40$4301a8c0@John.kurs.ensjoe.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 890 Lines: 25 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, John Enger wrote: > Hi, > I have been browsing thru your pages, and tried to compile a kernel for > my DecStation 2100 from various sources. So far with no success. > Determined to never give up I type you this mail, asking if you know of > anyone who successfully have accomplished this task. I'd be grateful for > any info you can come up with. There are some things to deal with: o A patched cross-binutils 2.8.1 is needed, the patches are needed so the DECstation is able to boot and optimizes assembler (I don't recall exactly what, at the list it's called Gleb's R3k patch). o You need either cross-gcc 2.7.2.x with a patched spec file or cross-egcs, version 1.0.2 works. o And last but not least the latest DECstation kernel source, that is 2.1.131 with a patch, both available at http://decstation.unix-ag.org/ Happy compiling. Regards, Richard From R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net Thu Feb 4 19:48:48 1999 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA15373; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:48:47 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:48:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-26.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.190] with ESMTP for id TAA28176 (8.8.8/3.36); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:48:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain(really [192.168.1.1]) by dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:48:28 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:48:27 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: patch-2.1.131-pl1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 322 Lines: 12 Hello, On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Richard van den Berg wrote: > This was on the 5k/25 on the 133 init has the same speed. Currently an > Intel-box is compiling a kernel with gcc, with the same configuration, > see if that makes any difference. FYI: Indeed it does, init takes about 25 minutes to finish. :-( Regards, Richard From alhaz@xmission.com Fri Feb 5 01:49:25 1999 Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA19158; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:49:24 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:49:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from alhaz.users.xmission.com ([207.135.128.199] helo=xmission.com ident=alhaz) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 108ZSS-0002dw-00 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:49:21 -0700 Sender: alhaz@fnet.fr Message-ID: <36BA4009.D5A4AB7B@xmission.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:49:13 -0700 From: Eric Jorgensen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: [HELP]:MIPS Millennium 4000SC-50 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1110 Lines: 28 Alex deVries wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Eric Jorgensen wrote: > > I'm not sure why you want to run linux in big-endian mode on it, but to > > each his own. This is a bi-endian machine, and most of the work on mips > > porting software has been to the little-endian target. > > Uh, just to clarify this: there is a pretty sizeable mipseb porting > project, although traditionally it's targetted towards SGI hardware. From > the userland perspective, we've had Red Hat 5.1 ported for about half a > year, and you can even buy it on CD from Red Hat (unsupported). I stand corrected. I also realized after my posting that the Magnum 4000 will run headless in big-endian, but not in little-endian, due to the ARC console wanting, well, a console. On the other hand, I'm ignorant of how well the non-arc bootloader works. For that matter, I dunno how well the ARC bootloader works. - Eric -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Geek for sale! http://we.areb.org/~alhaz/resume.html | ----------------------------------------------------------------- From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Feb 5 04:04:52 1999 Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ip39.cb.resolution.de [195.30.142.39]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA20319; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:04:51 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:04:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA04862; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:04:55 +0100 Message-ID: <19990205040455.B620@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:04:55 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Eric Jorgensen , linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: [HELP]:MIPS Millennium 4000SC-50 References: <36BA4009.D5A4AB7B@xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <36BA4009.D5A4AB7B@xmission.com>; from Eric Jorgensen on Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 05:49:13PM -0700 Content-Length: 504 Lines: 11 On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 05:49:13PM -0700, Eric Jorgensen wrote: > > On the other hand, I'm ignorant of how well the non-arc bootloader > works. For that matter, I dunno how well the ARC bootloader works. It shouldn't be difficult to make the Magnum kernel build into a big endian executable which is bootable either directly from the volume header or from an UFS-RISC/os partition via sash. If you get that working, you'll have the same state as the Indy port and can use the same software. Ralf From triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com Fri Feb 5 04:30:58 1999 Received: from apt4g.a3nyc.com (triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com [166.84.184.179]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA20902; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:30:57 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:30:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (triemer@localhost) by apt4g.a3nyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA10221 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:31:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:31:13 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Riemer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Compile of patch linux-2.1.131-pl1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 962 Lines: 24 The native compile of linux 2.1.131 with patch linux-2.1.131-pl1 finished and seems to boot. This kernel was compiled on a decstation 2100 with only standard configuration; make dep;make clean;make netboot. It only took about 4 1/2 hours - but hey - I'm not knocking it. It did it after all. The initial boot hung immediately after going into INIT 3. It look like it timed out on the mount of the root file system. The two machines are only separated by a hub and nothing should cause a timeout. The second boot booted up into multi user successfully. It comes up with an error: SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable. It still produces the clock skew errors in the make... I'm assuming that the patch for clock skew errors did not make it in. And now, just for kicks, we'll try the whole process again - start the compile going one more time - just to make sure that the kernel is stable enough to do a full compile cycle. This is VERY cool. -Tom Riemer From mmarch@mindspring.net Fri Feb 5 07:30:55 1999 Received: from dew.indirect.com (root@101.good.net [209.141.250.101] (may be forged)) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA22544; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:30:54 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:30:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from cowmix (root@dew.indirect.com [209.141.250.101]) by dew.indirect.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA19263; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:40:20 -0700 From: "Michael F. March" To: Cc: , Subject: RE: RedHat 5.2 on Cobalt Qube/RAQ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:30:34 -0700 Message-ID: <000801be50d1$092bb980$bbc4a0d8@cowmix.phx3.mindspring.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19981130123623.C489@uni-koblenz.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Length: 210 Lines: 7 Someone a while ago emailed me 2.1.55 (I think that was the version) of modutils for the Cobalt Cube.. I lost the email and I was wondering if anyone had a copy if they could email it to me. Thanks.. From MATTNRI@hilti.com Fri Feb 5 16:11:33 1999 Received: from gatekeeper.hilti.com (gatekeeper.hilti.com [193.202.255.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA28578; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:11:32 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:11:32 +0100 (MET) Received: by gatekeeper.hilti.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA03390; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:11:30 +0100 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: From: "Mattner Richard (mr)" To: "'linux-mips@fnet.fr'" Subject: Linux for DECstation 5000/240 with PXG graphic board Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:11:12 +0100 Return-Receipt-To: "Mattner Richard (mr)" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Length: 330 Lines: 10 Hello, I got a 'very cheap' DECstation 5000/240 with a PXG graphic board. Is it possible to run Linux on this Hardware ? Moreover: Where can I get the necessary Software ? Due to the fact, that I actually have no Software for the machine, I would prefer a bootable CD-ROM. thanx a lot, Richard Mattner emai: mattnri@hilti.com From dom@mudchute.algor.co.uk Fri Feb 5 16:27:51 1999 Received: from embankment.algor.co.uk (0@embankment.algor.co.uk [193.117.190.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA29158; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:27:10 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:27:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from mudchute.algor.co.uk (dom@mudchute.algor.co.uk [193.117.190.19]) by embankment.algor.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23567; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:57 GMT Received: (from dom@localhost) by mudchute.algor.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25003; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:35 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:35 GMT Message-Id: <199902051526.PAA25003@mudchute.algor.co.uk> From: Dominic Sweetman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Matthias Heidbrink To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: "Ian A.F. Fleming" Subject: Whitechapel computers In-Reply-To: <19990126235839.D1190@uni-koblenz.de> References: <199901262219.XAA12929@elverum.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990126235839.D1190@uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Content-Length: 986 Lines: 27 ralf@uni-koblenz.de (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) writes: > On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 11:19:05PM +0100, Matthias Heidbrink wrote: > > > I have a Whitechapel Hitech-10 with a R2000/16Mhz and 8 MB RAM. > > The usual benchmarks show a performance a bit worse than a SparcStation 2 > > or a 486/33. But if I'll ever manage to get Linux running on this box?-) > > There are actually former Whitechapel engineers reading this list ... I read it, and was in Whitechapel for all its short, interesting life. And in this office is the person who did most design work on the Hitech-10. The company liquidation left us without much design data, though we can probably remember quite a lot about it, and we have a screenless Hitech-10 which only recently ceased to be a functioning computer (and a few bits and pieces too). Ian Fleming (cc'd above) keeps a memorial web page at: http://www.galactic.co.uk/iainf/mg1.html He may be able to help. Dominic Sweetman Algorithmics Ltd dom@algor.co.uk From rji@bristol.st.com Fri Feb 5 17:10:53 1999 Received: from poke.dmz.st.com (poke.stmicroelectronics.com [195.101.81.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA29861; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:10:52 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:10:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from thistle.inmos.co.uk (thistle.bri.st.com [138.198.1.7]) by poke.dmz.st.com (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17531 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:10:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from cougar ([138.198.35.31]) by thistle.inmos.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for linux-mips@fnet.fr id 108noo-0001Ta-00; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:09:22 +0000 Received: from rji by cougar with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 108noo-0002Bu-00; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:09:22 +0000 From: Richard Ingram Message-Id: <9902051609.ZM8424@bristol.st.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:09:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: Dominic Sweetman "Whitechapel computers" (Feb 5, 3:26pm) References: <199901262219.XAA12929@elverum.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990126235839.D1190@uni-koblenz.de> <199902051526.PAA25003@mudchute.algor.co.uk> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Whitechapel computers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 274 Lines: 19 > Ian Fleming (cc'd above) keeps a memorial web page at: > > http://www.galactic.co.uk/iainf/mg1.html > > He may be able to help. He is now at: iainf@spider.com If anyone is going to e-mail him. Regards, Richard. PS Any news on Linux on Mips Magnum 4000SC-50 ? -- From jmax@beast.toad.net Sat Feb 6 05:55:56 1999 Received: from beast.toad.net (jmax@beast.toad.net [205.197.182.100]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA08304; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:55:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:55:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jmax@localhost) by beast.toad.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13846 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:55:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:55:35 -0500 (EST) From: John Maxwell Reply-To: John Maxwell To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Casio Cassiopeia E-11 / NEC VR4111 In-Reply-To: <9902051609.ZM8424@bristol.st.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1334 Lines: 34 Greetings all - I recently purchased a Casio Cassiopeia palmtop. The beast runs Microsh*t Windows CE(tm). Obviously, this is unacceptable as a long-term situation, so I'm looking at getting linux running on it. Basic specs: a NEC VR4111 processor, 8M RAM, 8M flash. NEC claims that the processor is MIPS I/II/III and MIPS16 compatible, and a brief perusal of the chip's user's manual doesn't reveal any obvious incompatibilities. (No FPU, though... :-( ) I run Intel linux on my home box; I'm a programmer by profession; and I've done some work on the guts of compilers and OS's before, so I'm not on totally unfamiliar ground. On the other hand, I've never worked with the MIPS architecture before. I'm still in the information gathering stage of this project, so I thought I'd check in with this list; has there been any previous discussion of this topic before? Anyone have any thoughts/comments/warnings? Any obvious reason why this is a stupid idea? Oh, and while I'm spewing questions: Is this list archived anywhere, so that I can avoid repeating questions that have already been asked? TIA, -John -------------------- John Maxwell jmax@toad.net Customer: Hi, I'm running Windows 98 Tech Support: Yes. Customer: My machine isn't working now. Tech Support: Yes, you said that. From mitch@execpc.com Sat Feb 6 09:58:19 1999 Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA09717; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:58:18 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:58:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from earth.execpc.com (mitch@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id CAA25396; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:58:14 -0600 Received: (from mitch@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.9.0) id CAA04256; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:58:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990206025813.18231@execpc.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:58:13 -0600 From: Mitchell Blank Jr To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: MATTNRI@hilti.com Subject: Re: Linux for DECstation 5000/240 with PXG graphic board References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e-execpc In-Reply-To: ; from Mattner Richard (mr) on Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 04:11:12PM +0100 Content-Length: 1946 Lines: 38 It's really annoying that people have to ask this exact question once a week on this list. Is there any chance that the fnet.fr webpage could be updated to reflect the current state of the project? There's still talk of the 1.2 kernel in their FAQ, nor does it mention the unix-ag site. Mattner Richard (mr) wrote: > I got a 'very cheap' DECstation 5000/240 with a PXG graphic board. Is it > possible to run Linux on this Hardware ? Moreover: Where can I get the > necessary Software ? Due to the fact, that I actually have no Software for > the machine, I would prefer a bootable CD-ROM. The Linux port has not yet progressed to that point yet. However, the last few months have seen rapid progress, after a long period of relative dormancy. Check out: http://decstation.unix-ag.org for the latest news. Right now there's no support for SCSI (so you have to boot off the network and have all your filsystems in NFS), but multiuser is begining to work for some poeple. Not far now! So if you just want to play with Linux on this box (and don't mind the thrill of development) just hang out here and follow the news as it happens. If you just want to use your machine NOW you might want to look at OpenBSD (www.openbsd.org) or NetBSD (www.netbsd.org) - their port to the decstation is a lot older and thus more complete. They also both sell CD-ROM distributions, but I don't think either is directly bootable on a decstation from CD (I could be wrong, but I think you either have to write the simpleroot.fs onto a SCSI disk from another machine or you must network boot the first time) I don't think either supports /any/ PGX card (what card is it specifically? A PMAG-D? PMAG-E?) I believe these are all seriously undocumented. You might be able to use them at least in text console. Anyway, I ran OpenBSD on my DECstations for some time... worked fine. I'd rather run Linux on them personally, and am eagerly waiting :-) -Mitch From <@Cologne.DE:karsten@excalibur.cologne.de> Sat Feb 6 23:49:23 1999 Received: from fileserv2.Cologne.DE (fileserv2.cologne.de [193.29.188.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA15716; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:49:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:49:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (1987 bytes) by fileserv2.Cologne.DE via rmail with P:stdio/R:bind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:49:19 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #5 built 1998-Jan-19) Received: (from karsten@localhost) by excalibur.cologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA10370; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:40:56 +0100 Message-ID: <19990206234056.A8869@excalibur.cologne.de> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:40:56 +0100 From: Karsten Merker To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Cross-gcc for mipsel-linux Mail-Followup-To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i X-No-Archive: yes Content-Length: 1402 Lines: 34 Hallo everybody. I am trying to build a cross-development-system for DECstation-Linux (target=mipsel-linux) on my Intel Linux box. Cross-binutils (2.8.1) can be built without problems (using patch-binutils-r3k from decstation.unix-ag.org), but how to build gcc? I have the patch from http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/2.1.121-pre2/patch-spec, but how to apply it? The header tells --- specs.old Tue Dec 1 20:51:26 1998 +++ specs Tue Dec 1 20:53:57 1998 but there is no file called specs in the gcc 2.7.2.3 source tree. As the "Linux/DECstation - patching instructions for binutils and gcc" state, the patch is not needed anymore with egcs 1.0.2. I have tried building egcs-1.1.1 with target=mipsel-linux, but it also complains about this being an unsupported combination. The egcs-1.1.1-Source also has no file named "specs". Could somebody who has done this before please describe the necessary steps to build a cross-gcc/egcs for mipsel-linux? If possible, please mention where to find any patches you have used in this. I know that there are precompiled binaries on decstation.unix-ag.org, but these are libc5-binaries while I am using a glibc-based system. TIA, Karsten -- #include Nach Paragraph 28 Abs. 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbezwecke oder fuer die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung. From imp@village.org Sun Feb 7 01:10:46 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA17764; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:10:43 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:10:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 109Ho1-0005qf-00; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:10:33 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA86238; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:11:10 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902070011.RAA86238@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: jmax@beast.toad.net Subject: Re: Casio Cassiopeia E-11 / NEC VR4111 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:55:35 EST." References: Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:11:10 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 1691 Lines: 33 In message John Maxwell writes: : Basic specs: a NEC VR4111 processor, 8M RAM, 8M flash. NEC claims : that the processor is MIPS I/II/III and MIPS16 compatible, and a brief : perusal of the chip's user's manual doesn't reveal any obvious : incompatibilities. (No FPU, though... :-( ) I believe that it has 8M ROM, not FLASH. Otherwise that is correct. If it really is FLASH, then I'd likely go out and buy one of these asap... What are the chip numbers for the ROM parts? : I'm still in the information gathering stage of this project, so I : thought I'd check in with this list; has there been any previous : discussion of this topic before? Anyone have any : thoughts/comments/warnings? Any obvious reason why this is a stupid idea? Yes. I've done extensive investigations into the feasability of doing something like this. I've been working with people to write a boot loader that will run from WinCE, load the kernel then jump to it. I've also been working on the OpenBSD/arc kernel (since I have an openbsd mips arc box), but adapting the Linux kernel shouldn't be too hard. The big areas of work are likely to be the console driver and (for pre Vr4102 chips the serial ports). Well, if you have the chip's user's manual (available free if you hit the us NEC web site, or download from the www.nec.de web site), then you'll know there is also a lot of "little" devices that will need drivers or to be programmed correctly. Finally, I've been working on getting a mips compiler for wince generated from gcc based on some preliminary patches I found on the net. This would only be needed for the boot loader. Warner From mallah@prodigy.net Sun Feb 7 05:09:14 1999 Received: from virtualmaster3-int.prodigy.net (virtualmaster3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.59.137]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA19676; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:09:12 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:09:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from prodigy.net (NYCMB302-41.splitrock.net [209.156.92.41]) by virtualmaster3-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA281484 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:09:05 -0500 Message-ID: <36BD122B.D2189B7C@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:10:19 -0500 From: Richard Mallah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: I wish to port Linux to my MIPS R4000-based handheld PC. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 668 Lines: 22 Hello. I have a Philips Velo 1 handheld PC from circa 1997. I love and use Linux a lot on my desktop x86, and I wish to port Linux to this palmtop. It has a MIPS R4000 processor at around 33MHz, 12 MB of non-volatile RAM, and a FlashRAM drive that also supports operating system ROM upgrades. (It is currently running MS Windows CE.) I was wondering if you know about any implementations of Linux on HPCs, or if not, if you think it could be viable. What size do you estimate the minimum installation of Linux would need for RAM and for harddrive/secondary storage? I would appreciate any input. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Richard Mallah mallah@prodigy.net From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Sun Feb 7 15:36:51 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA24607; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:36:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:36:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J7GU13OYJU0000OZ@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:36:46 +0200 Received: by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA11929; Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:36:41 +0100 X-URL: http://www-lsdm.research.kpn.com/~karel Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:36:40 +0100 (MET) From: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Karel van Houten) Subject: Re: Working modutils for DECStation Linux ?? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Houten K.H.C. van ) Message-id: <199902071436.PAA11929@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1572 Lines: 68 Hi I finally got modutils going. After a problem during kernel compile, which I think was a result of clock-drift, I had to tackle depmod. Finally, I found a problem which might be a egcs problem: In depmod/conf_file.c: -------------------------------------------- static struct mod_alias { struct mod_alias *next; char *name; char *alias; } alias_list[] = { #include "alias.h" { NULL, NULL, NULL } }; -------------------------------------------- This gets expanded to by cpp: -------------------------------------------- static struct mod_alias { struct mod_alias *next; char *name; char *alias; } alias_list[] = { # 1 "alias.h" 1 #ident "$Id: alias.h,v 1.3 1998/01/07 08:26:25 rth Exp $" {(void *) 0, "binfmt-2", "binfmt_aout"}, {(void *) 0, "binfmt-0107", "binfmt_aout"}, {(void *) 0, "binfmt-204", "binfmt_aout"}, {(void *) 0, "binfmt-263", "binfmt_aout"}, {(void *) 0, "binfmt-264", "binfmt_aout"}, ... { NULL, NULL, NULL } }; -------------------------------------------- The '#ident' line makes the array initialisation incorrect. After removing this line, depmod compiles and works correctly. EGCS guru's, any hints? I have placed a patched modutils-2.1.121-4D.mipsel.rpm on my website on http://www.xs4all.nl/~vhouten/mipsel Regards, -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From mkovach@mkovach.nacs.net Sun Feb 7 19:31:44 1999 Received: from mkovach.nacs.net (root@mkovach.nacs.net [207.166.196.17]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA26006; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:31:42 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:31:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from mkovach.nacs.net (mkovach@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mkovach.nacs.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21361 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:33:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199902071833.NAA21361@mkovach.nacs.net> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for DECstation 5000/240 with PXG graphic board In-reply-to: <19990206025813.18231@execpc.com> References: <19990206025813.18231@execpc.com> Comments: In-reply-to Mitchell Blank Jr messages dated "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 02:58:13 -0600." Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:33:25 -0500 From: Mat Kovach Content-Length: 1001 Lines: 24 Mitchell Blank Jr said: : It's really annoying that people have to ask this exact question once : a week on this list. Is there any chance that the fnet.fr webpage : could be updated to reflect the current state of the project? There's : still talk of the 1.2 kernel in their FAQ, nor does it mention the unix-ag : site. Well, I have already made the offer (and started on my end) getting together a little better order to the file repositories that are currently available. Lots of stuff out there that has been updated and/or replaced. I don't see that adding updating some project info would add a lot of work to me. If people just want to use me as a spot to update information, I can make it available to the correct people *smile*. I do something simular for many of the projects and events for the Cleveland Linux Users Group. If one person is working on it, it will let the people coding not worry about it. Mat Kovach I come not to bash Microsoft, but to kill it ...mmm...beeer! From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Feb 8 23:04:32 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA10150; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:04:25 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:04:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.26]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14386 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:04:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA01704; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:12:22 +0100 Message-ID: <19990208061220.A1699@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:12:20 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Karel van Houten Cc: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: MIPS egcs bug, was: working modutils for DECStation Linux ?? References: <199902071436.PAA11929@sparta.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199902071436.PAA11929@sparta.research.kpn.com>; from Karel van Houten on Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:36:40PM +0100 Content-Length: 1099 Lines: 34 On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:36:40PM +0100, Karel van Houten wrote: > The '#ident' line makes the array initialisation incorrect. After removing > this line, depmod compiles and works correctly. Thanks for tracking this down. > EGCS guru's, any hints? Adding this to egcs-1.0.2/gcc/config/mips/linux.h at the bottom should fix things: /* Attach a special .ident directive to the end of the file to identify the version of GCC which compiled this code. The format of the .ident string is patterned after the ones produced by native svr4 C compilers. */ #undef IDENT_ASM_OP #define IDENT_ASM_OP ".ident" /* Output #ident as a .ident. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_IDENT #define ASM_OUTPUT_IDENT(FILE, NAME) \ fprintf (FILE, "\t%s\t\"%s\"\n", IDENT_ASM_OP, NAME); I'll test this and make a real patch later. Until that -fno-ident is the silver bullet to avoid such sick effects. IRIX people: I think the same bug also hits IRIX, RISC/os and others, it's probably as long in gcc / egcs as I can think back. At least for some of the affected targets the above fix can not be used. Ralf From peru@ifi.uio.no Mon Feb 8 13:29:43 1999 Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA05308; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:29:33 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:29:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from ifi.uio.no (2279@ginnungagap.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.134]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id NAA08736 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:29:11 +0100 (MET) Sender: peru@ifi.uio.no Message-ID: <36BED896.9845F687@ifi.uio.no> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:29:10 +0100 From: "Per Christopher Aarøe Undheim" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: subscribe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------011E909E018B57D7136BA277" Content-Length: 614 Lines: 30 --------------011E909E018B57D7136BA277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I subscripbe? -- Per Christopher Undheim - If Windows was the answer it must have been a stupid question - --------------011E909E018B57D7136BA277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I subscripbe? 
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  --------------011E909E018B57D7136BA277-- From pnuli@mediaone.net Mon Feb 8 13:29:10 1999 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA05286; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:29:00 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:29:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from blackpanther (pnuli.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.88.44]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA15521 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:28:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000e01be535f$ad3ff140$2c588018@blackpanther.ne.mediaone.net> From: "Prasad Nuli" To: Subject: mips machine Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:36:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE5335.C3CF7E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Length: 2080 Lines: 63 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE5335.C3CF7E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to port the linux to NEC Image Risc Station. I have not = started yet. I think it is easy for me to get a mips machine on which = linux works and experiment with it and start the port. I would like to buy a Mips R4400 based machine ( possibly ARC Bios) = machine, that has linux working on it. Does any one would like to sell a = machine or does any one knows who is interested in selling a mips = machine ? Thanks Prasad Nuli pnuli@mediaone.net or pnuli@yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE5335.C3CF7E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am trying to port the linux to NEC = Image Risc=20 Station. I have not started yet. I think it is easy for me to get a mips = machine=20 on which linux works and experiment with it and start the = port.
 
I would like to buy a Mips R4400 based machine ( = possibly=20 ARC  Bios) machine, that has linux working on it. Does any one = would like=20 to sell a machine or does any one knows who is interested in selling a = mips=20 machine ?
 
Thanks
 
Prasad Nuli
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE5335.C3CF7E00-- From peru@ifi.uio.no Mon Feb 8 13:48:13 1999 Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA06444; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:48:04 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:48:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from ifi.uio.no (2279@ginnungagap.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.134]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id NAA12620 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:47:44 +0100 (MET) Sender: peru@ifi.uio.no Message-ID: <36BEDCEF.F0A71740@ifi.uio.no> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:47:44 +0100 From: "Per Christopher Aarøe Undheim" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux on Mips based Handheld computer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3ACD6209BE835F803DBE3A1A" Content-Length: 2061 Lines: 54 --------------3ACD6209BE835F803DBE3A1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any development ongoing for getting linux on Handheld mips based computers as the Compaq C-series machines? They run a 75 mhz MIPS risc prosessor, but as of now, I havent gotten any extencive info from compaq about the cpu. I am planing to buy myself on on theese machines, and running windows CE is not an option ;) Theese machines has many snacksy features, and should be a cool machine to run linux on.. The base models is equiped with 8-20-32 mb ram a 16 mb rom (obviosly need some info from compaq into how the rom could be removed/ replaced/erased.) allso supporting flash cards for storage. Please let me know if you have any input. I fear I will spend much time in hacking around with it all on my own ;P regards -- Per Christopher Undheim - If Windows was the answer it must have been a stupid question - --------------3ACD6209BE835F803DBE3A1A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any development ongoing for getting linux on Handheld mips based computers as the Compaq C-series machines? They run a 75 mhz MIPS risc prosessor, but as of now, I havent gotten any extencive info from compaq about the cpu. I am planing to buy myself on on theese machines, and running windows CE is not an option ;) Theese machines has many snacksy features, and should be a cool machine to run linux on.. The base models is equiped with 8-20-32 mb ram  a 16 mb rom (obviosly need some info from compaq into how the rom could be removed/ replaced/erased.) allso supporting flash cards for storage.

Please let me know if you have any input. I fear I will spend much time in hacking around with it all on my own  ;P

regards 

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  --------------3ACD6209BE835F803DBE3A1A-- From <@Cologne.DE:karsten@excalibur.cologne.de> Mon Feb 8 21:40:52 1999 Received: from fileserv2.Cologne.DE (fileserv2.cologne.de [193.29.188.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA08817; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:40:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:40:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (1842 bytes) by fileserv2.Cologne.DE via rmail with P:stdio/R:bind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:40:47 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #5 built 1998-Jan-19) Received: (from karsten@localhost) by excalibur.cologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA12295; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:38:02 +0100 Message-ID: <19990208213802.A11849@excalibur.cologne.de> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:38:02 +0100 From: Karsten Merker To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Cross-gcc for mipsel-linux Mail-Followup-To: linux-mips@fnet.fr References: <19990206234056.A8869@excalibur.cologne.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <19990206234056.A8869@excalibur.cologne.de>; from Karsten Merker on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 11:40:56PM +0100 X-No-Archive: yes Content-Length: 1077 Lines: 25 Hallo everyone, I wrote: > I am trying to build a cross-development-system for DECstation-Linux > (target=mipsel-linux) on my Intel Linux box. Cross-binutils (2.8.1) can be > built without problems (using patch-binutils-r3k from > decstation.unix-ag.org), but how to build gcc? I have the patch from > http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/2.1.121-pre2/patch-spec, but how to > apply it? [...] With the help of Harald Koerfgen (thank you very much again) I got egcs 1.0.2 running, using the sources Thomas Bogendoerfer has put together for building a native egcs-RPM for MIPS. It has successfully compiled a decstation kernel and I am curious whether that will really boot. If it does, I will try to build cross-gcc/cross-binutils-RPMs for i386/glibc and put them on an ftp-server as an alternative to the libc5-packages on decstation.unix-ag.org. Greetings, Karsten -- #include Nach Paragraph 28 Abs. 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbezwecke oder fuer die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung. From RE-Glaue@wiu.edu Mon Feb 8 21:51:14 1999 Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA08889; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:51:04 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:51:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from ecom5.ecnet.net (mureg3@ecom5 [143.43.32.25]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id OAA10848 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:50:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mureg3@localhost) by ecom5.ecnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03653 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:50:28 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom5.ecnet.net: mureg3 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:50:28 -0600 (CST) From: Russell E Glaue X-Sender: mureg3@ecom5 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Porting to MIPS/Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 771 Lines: 20 Hello, I am an Internet Technologist for Center for the Application of Information Technology in Macomb Illinois, USA on the Campus of Western Illinois University. We have two of the same following system configuration that we plan to install Linux/MIPS onto. As identified by milo-0.26: ARC Vendor ID : [DESKTECH] ARC Product ID : [3030303030303031] ARC System ID : [DESKTECH-TYNE] Can you please give us a status report on the OS support level of the kernel for this particular system? We we be able to successfully install a MIP/Linux Operating System onto this MIPS Hardware configuration? Thank you. +------------------------------------------+ -----russ----- Internet Technologist re-glaue@wiu.edu Center for the Application of Information Technology From RE-Glaue@wiu.edu Tue Feb 9 00:50:58 1999 Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA11857; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:50:54 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:50:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from ecom5.ecnet.net (mureg3@ecom5 [143.43.32.25]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id RAA05049 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:50:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mureg3@localhost) by ecom5.ecnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17476 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:50:38 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom5.ecnet.net: mureg3 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:50:38 -0600 (CST) From: Russell E Glaue X-Sender: mureg3@ecom5 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Porting to MIPS/Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 772 Lines: 21 Hello, I am an Internet Technologist for Center for the Application of Information Technology in Macomb Illinois, USA on the Campus of Western Illinois University. We have two of the same following system configuration that we plan to install Linux/MIPS onto. As identified by milo-0.26: ARC Vendor ID : [DESKTECH] ARC Product ID : [3030303030303031] ARC System ID : [DESKTECH-TYNE] Can you please give us a status report on the OS support level of the kernel for this particular system? We we be able to successfully install a MIP/Linux Operating System onto this MIPS Hardware configuration? Thank you. +------------------------------------------+ -----russ----- Internet Technologist re-glaue@wiu.edu Center for the Application of Information Technology From korg@bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au Tue Feb 9 08:42:27 1999 Received: from bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au (root@bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au [130.194.168.238]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA14457; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:42:22 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:42:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au (korg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26109; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:42:06 +1100 Message-Id: <199902090742.SAA26109@bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, paul@softway.com.au, triemer@wesleyan.edu Subject: Linux on decstation 5000/25... From: cameron@mail.earth.monash.edu.au Reply-To: cameron@mail.earth.monash.edu.au X-http: http://www.earth.monash.edu.au/~cameron/ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:42:06 +1100 Sender: korg@bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au Content-Length: 933 Lines: 33 G'day, I just scored a lab of dec5000/25's for our department to use as xterminals and I was wondering on the status of linux on them. The tftp instructions are quite clear, great work!!! I tried: dec_vmlinux.2.1.14.test4.gz. . . [May 18 1997] 249k dec_vmlinux.gz . . . . . . . . . [Jan 8 1996] 231k 2.1.14 seemed to boot ok, but dec_vmlinux got to the calibrating part and then hung. :( These images are quite old and I was wondering if development of this linux port has stopped. No point trying to work out how to boot diskless them if the kernel stuff doesnt fly.... cheers, cam -- / `Rev Dr' cameron.blackwood@nod.zikzak.net skeptic, virtual goth, poly \ < [+61 3] 9905 4881[w] Linux, Unix, python, genetics, nets > \ Earth Science, Monash Uni. http://www.earth.monash.edu.au/~cameron/ / ---------- Random Quote ---------- Reunite Gondwondaland! From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Tue Feb 9 17:25:43 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA16809; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:25:40 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:25:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port10.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.10]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14762; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:25:00 +0100 X-To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199902090742.SAA26109@bifrost.earth.monash.edu.au> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:27:20 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: cameron@mail.earth.monash.edu.au Subject: RE: Linux on decstation 5000/25... Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr Content-Length: 823 Lines: 25 Hi, On 09-Feb-99 cameron@mail.earth.monash.edu.au wrote: > I just scored a lab of dec5000/25's for our department to use as > xterminals and I was wondering on the status of linux on them. > > The tftp instructions are quite clear, great work!!! > > I tried: > dec_vmlinux.2.1.14.test4.gz. . . [May 18 1997] 249k > dec_vmlinux.gz . . . . . . . . . [Jan 8 1996] 231k > > 2.1.14 seemed to boot ok, but dec_vmlinux got to the calibrating part > and then hung. :( These images are quite old and I was wondering if > development of this linux port has stopped. > > No point trying to work out how to boot diskless them if the kernel > stuff > doesnt fly.... You may want to visit http://decstation.unix-ag.org. There has been quite some progress since the good ol' 2.1.14 days :-). --- Regards, Harald From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Tue Feb 9 19:48:24 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA17407; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:48:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:48:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3149) with SMTP id <01J7JVDFK2E60001JI@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:48:07 +0200 Received: by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA23881; Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:48:01 +0100 X-URL: http://www-lsdm.research.kpn.com/~karel Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:48:01 +0100 (MET) From: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com (Karel van Houten) Subject: On my DECStation.... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Message-id: <199902091848.TAA23881@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1759 Lines: 49 Hi, Just this evening, on my DECStation: [root@elrond /root]# cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/ [root@elrond scsi]# lsmod Module Size Used by [root@elrond scsi]# insmod -v scsi_mod.o [root@elrond scsi]# lsmod Module Size Used by scsi_mod 61936 0 (unused) [root@elrond scsi]# insmod -v NCR53C9x.o [root@elrond scsi]# lsmod Module Size Used by NCR53C9x 50772 0 (unused) scsi_mod 61936 0 [NCR53C9x] [root@elrond scsi]# insmod -v dec_esp.oo SCSI ID 7 Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 scsi : 1 host. scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 SCSI host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out - resetting SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 0) timed out - trying harder SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. SCSI host 0 reset (pid 0) timed out again - probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. (now this window hangs, but I can shutdown from a different window). Harald, a you see I've made the scsi support modular. You said a while ago you where working on SCSI. I thought it might be helpfull to make it modular, so debugging is easier. I'm not really in that kind of code, but when I look in dec_esp.c, it looks like it only support straight turbochannel cards, not IOASIC SCSI. Any news? Regards, -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Tue Feb 9 21:05:23 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA18351; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:05:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:05:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port2.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.2]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25194 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:05:10 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199902091848.TAA23881@sparta.research.kpn.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:07:30 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: RE: On my DECStation.... Content-Length: 2678 Lines: 75 Hi, On 09-Feb-99 Karel van Houten wrote: > Hi, > > Just this evening, on my DECStation: > > [root@elrond /root]# cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/ > [root@elrond scsi]# lsmod > Module Size Used by > [root@elrond scsi]# insmod -v scsi_mod.o > [root@elrond scsi]# lsmod > Module Size Used by > scsi_mod 61936 0 (unused) > [root@elrond scsi]# insmod -v NCR53C9x.o > [root@elrond scsi]# lsmod > Module Size Used by > NCR53C9x 50772 0 (unused) > scsi_mod 61936 0 [NCR53C9x] > [root@elrond scsi]# insmod -v dec_esp.oo > SCSI ID 7 Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected > ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. > scsi0 : ESP236 > scsi : 1 host. > scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, > lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 > SCSI host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out - resetting > SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. > SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 0) timed out - trying harder > SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. > SCSI host 0 reset (pid 0) timed out again - > probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. > > (now this window hangs, but I can shutdown from a different window). Great! That will help me a lot. > Harald, a you see I've made the scsi support modular. You said a while > ago you where working on SCSI. I thought it might be helpfull to make it > modular, so debugging is easier. > > I'm not really in that kind of code, but when I look in dec_esp.c, > it looks like it only support straight turbochannel cards, not IOASIC > SCSI. > > Any news? Yes, of course. I just recovered from upgrading my Intel box to SuSE 6.0 and the 2.2.1 kernel. Rebuild the crosscompiling tool chain, reconstruct config files I forgot to backup and all this stuff, you probably know... :-) I was just beginning to dig deeper into the IOASIC SCSI DMA stuff for the onboard SCSI chip. Unfortunately this topic isn't covered by the AXP Manual so all we have is existing code from Mach and *BSD. First experiments (without DMA) on my '260 show (Note the id 2 in the first "aborting command" error message): ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 scsi : 1 host. dma_init_read: vaddr=00000000, length=00000010 scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 2, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Request Sense 00 00 00 10 00 SCSI host 0 abort (pid 2) timed out - resetting Id 2 is the first device on the SCSI bus. Not too bad for a first shot, IMHO. My '133 doesn't come that far which shows that NCR53C9X.c is in badly need of some wbflush()es. --- Regards, Harald From tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Tue Feb 9 23:03:25 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA19438; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (root@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id XAA22842; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:03:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA02120 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: <19990209225754.A2097@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:57:54 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: On my DECStation.... References: <199902091848.TAA23881@sparta.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Harald Koerfgen on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:07:30PM +0100 Content-Length: 607 Lines: 15 On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:07:30PM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. > scsi0 : ESP236 do really have an ESP236 ? If not your problem might be because of this false detection. I had the same problem during my first attempts with the NCR53C9x driver. My detection was messed up, because of a wrong structure for the NCR registers. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From josega@bpo.hp.com Wed Feb 10 12:32:39 1999 Received: from bbnrel4.hp.com (bbnrel4.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA24747; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:32:38 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:32:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from hpbplfs4.bpo.hp.com (daemon@hpbplfs4.bpo.hp.com [15.180.0.241]) by bbnrel4.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id MAA03531 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:32:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from hpbpl133 (hpbpl133.bpo.hp.com) by hpbplfs4.bpo.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA001386347; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:32:27 +0100 Sender: josega@bpo.hp.com Message-Id: <36C16E4A.CD9@bpo.hp.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:32:26 +0100 From: Jose Galmes Organization: Hewlett-Packard Barcelona Division X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/782) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Port to NEC Ddb4373 evaluation board Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 242 Lines: 10 Hello, I've got a NEC Ddb4373 evaluation board, and I'd like to run Linux/MIPS on it. Do you happen to know of any port to this board? If not, I'd like to know how to start working on a port to this board. Thanks a lot, Pepe (Jose Galmes) From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Feb 11 02:09:57 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA00879; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:09:55 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:09:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.24]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA29090 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:09:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00540; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:41:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19990210124135.C528@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:41:35 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Richard Ingram , linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Whitechapel computers References: <199901262219.XAA12929@elverum.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990126235839.D1190@uni-koblenz.de> <199902051526.PAA25003@mudchute.algor.co.uk> <9902051609.ZM8424@bristol.st.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <9902051609.ZM8424@bristol.st.com>; from Richard Ingram on Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 04:09:21PM +0000 Content-Length: 227 Lines: 8 On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 04:09:21PM +0000, Richard Ingram wrote: > PS Any news on Linux on Mips Magnum 4000SC-50 ? It should be running with post 2.1.100 kernels. If you try it, please let me know about your success. Ralf From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Feb 11 02:11:17 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA00925; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:11:15 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:11:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.24]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA29156 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:11:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00577; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:12:30 +0100 Message-ID: <19990210131230.D528@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:12:30 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Russell E Glaue , linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Porting to MIPS/Linux References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Russell E Glaue on Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 02:50:28PM -0600 Content-Length: 652 Lines: 16 On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 02:50:28PM -0600, Russell E Glaue wrote: > We have two of the same following system configuration that we plan to > install Linux/MIPS onto. As identified by milo-0.26: > ARC Vendor ID : [DESKTECH] > ARC Product ID : [3030303030303031] > ARC System ID : [DESKTECH-TYNE] > > Can you please give us a status report on the OS support level of the > kernel for this particular system? We we be able to successfully install > a MIP/Linux Operating System onto this MIPS Hardware configuration? The Deskstation Tyne support is no longer functional, it'll take a kernel hacker to bring it all back to a working order. Ralf From damin@intel.cleveland.lug.net Wed Feb 10 23:45:00 1999 Received: from intel.cleveland.lug.net (damin@intel.cleveland.lug.net [207.166.193.101]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA28185; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:44:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:44:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (damin@localhost) by intel.cleveland.lug.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05387; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:51:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:51:12 -0500 (EST) From: Greg To: linux-mips@fnet.fr cc: clug-talk@nacs.net, ralf@uni-koblenz.de Subject: RE: RedHat 5.2 on Cobalt Qube/RAQ In-Reply-To: <000801be50d1$092bb980$bbc4a0d8@cowmix.phx3.mindspring.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1168 Lines: 42 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Michael F. March wrote: > Someone a while ago emailed me 2.1.55 (I think that was the version) > of modutils for the Cobalt Cube.. I lost the email and I was wondering > if anyone had a copy if they could email it to me. > > Thanks.. Mike, I've got some new packages in my "incoming" directory on ftp://intel.cleveland.lug.net/pub/Mipsel/incoming README.modutils modutils-2.1.55-1TO.src.rpm isdn4k-utils-3.0beta2-2.mips.rpm isdn4k-utils-3.0beta2-2.src.rpm rsynth-2.0-1.mips.rpm rsynth-2.0-1.src.rpm modutils-2.1.55-1TO.mips.rpm The readme says; modutils-2.1.55-1TO.src.rpm This version of modutils is tested on a Cobalt Qube. There had been 2 showstoppers which prevent modules running on the Qube: 1. A bug in modutils, which scrambles opcodes during insmod. - fixed in this modutils package. 2. A missing compiler-option in the kernel's toplevel Makefile. You must change that yourself: Edit the kernel's toplevel Makefile, find the first definition of MODFLAGS and add -mlong-calls. The correct line finally should read: MODFLAGS = -mlong-calls -DMODULE Have fun -Fritz From stephenn@lcsaudio.com Thu Feb 11 19:18:33 1999 Received: from mail3.cadvision.com (mail3.cadvision.com [207.228.64.48]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA07423; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:17:55 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:17:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from shitbag (gen2-111ip168.cadvision.com [209.91.111.168]) by mail3.cadvision.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/CW) with SMTP id LAA30879 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:17:26 -0700 Message-ID: <008901be55ea$c2ad5440$a86f5bd1@shitbag> From: "Stephen Noftall" To: Subject: Linux on NEC's VRC4373 & VR4300 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:17:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Length: 426 Lines: 12 Hello; I am designing a product that uses NEC's VR4300 series processor, with it's companion chip VRC4373. Has anyone used the Linux port with this combination? The 4373's PCI bus will hook up to Intel's 21140 Tulip 100/10 ethernet chip, and Symbios's SYM53C895 Ultra2 SCSI chip. Has anyone had any experience getting the Linux/MIPs port to work with these chips? Thanks for any info. Stephen Noftall stephenn@lcsaudio.com From pnuli@mediaone.net Fri Feb 12 03:14:16 1999 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA12055; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:14:15 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:14:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from blackpanther (pnuli.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.88.44]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA23487 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:14:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01be562e$7c370ee0$2c588018@blackpanther.ne.mediaone.net> From: "Prasad Nuli" To: Subject: What is the current status of Linux for ACER PICA Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:22:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE5604.9323D6D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Length: 2914 Lines: 78 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE5604.9323D6D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Every one What is the current status for the linux of Acer Pica. I have some = of these machines made by Acer for NEC. I am trying make linux work on = these machines. What is the current status of this port ? In the mean time i have successfully installed OpenBSD 2.3 version = on these machines and everthing works fine. SCSI, Video, Memory, Network = and every thing is working, right out of the box with their software. I = have to do some more tests, but so far it looks excellent. I am very = amazed and surpriesed how good the port of Open BSD for these machines.=20 What is the current status of linux for these boxes ? I still would = like to make linux work on these machines. Can any one give me some idea = on what is the status of linux port for Acer PICA and how to go from = here ? Thanks Prasad Nuli pnuli@mediaone.net or pnuli@yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE5604.9323D6D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Every one
 
    What is the current status for = the linux of=20 Acer Pica. I have some of these machines made by Acer for NEC. I am = trying make=20 linux work on these machines. What is the current status of this port=20 ?
    In the mean time i have = successfully=20 installed OpenBSD 2.3 version on these machines and everthing works = fine. SCSI,=20 Video, Memory, Network and every thing is working, right out of the box = with=20 their software. I have to do some more tests, but so far it looks = excellent. I=20 am very amazed and surpriesed how good the port of Open BSD for these = machines.=20
    What is the current status of = linux for=20 these boxes ? I still would like to make linux work on these machines. = Can any=20 one give me some idea on what is the status of linux port for Acer PICA = and how=20 to go from here ?
 
Thanks
Prasad Nuli
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE5604.9323D6D0-- From wiebew@bigfoot.com Sat Feb 13 00:35:02 1999 Received: from luna.worldonline.nl (luna.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.131]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA20107; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:35:01 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:35:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from bigfoot.com (wiwm@vp230-150.worldonline.nl [195.241.230.150]) by luna.worldonline.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18662 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:34:59 +0100 (MET) Sender: wiwm@worldonline.nl Message-ID: <36C4BA80.B5FFCD8D@bigfoot.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:34:25 +0000 From: Wiebe Wiersema Organization: Cap Gemini X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: linux om RM200 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A2171CDFACB63A2DB4C35B3E" Content-Length: 1286 Lines: 46 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A2171CDFACB63A2DB4C35B3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit L.s. I have a Siemens Nixdorf RM200. I am trying to get the stuff booted with milo and the dummy vmlinux. But first I seem to need the NT firmware loaded in my RM200 boot memory, could you refer me to the guys who had their RM200 up and running with linux ? I have 3 friends/colleagues who have a RM200 as well and would love to have Linux running on their boxes. (We got the RM200's as they were replaced by windoze NT machines damn damn, but they will suit our purposes if we get linux up and running to a certain degree 8-) Thanks in advance, Wiebe Wiersema --------------A2171CDFACB63A2DB4C35B3E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wiebew.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Wiebe Wiersema Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wiebew.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiersema;Wiebe tel;cell:(31) 6 22 933 466 tel;work:(31) 30-2527696 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Cap Gemini b.v.;Technology Consulting Overheid adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:wiebe.wiersema@capgemini.nl title:ing x-mozilla-cpt:;-5408 fn:Wiebe Wiersema end:vcard --------------A2171CDFACB63A2DB4C35B3E-- From mtidwell@mail.com Sat Feb 13 18:39:10 1999 Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA25321; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:39:09 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:39:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from [207.5.59.155] (dial155.magiclink.net [207.5.59.155]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11743 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:38:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36C5B836.D733DE43@mail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:36:54 -0800 From: "montgomery f. tidwell" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Any hope for the Magnum 3000? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 91 Lines: 6 Howdy, is there hope of seeing Linux on the Magnum 3000? \\//_ From triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com Sat Feb 13 19:46:23 1999 Received: from apt4g.a3nyc.com (triemer@[166.84.184.179]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA26552; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:46:22 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:46:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (triemer@localhost) by apt4g.a3nyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA24763 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:46:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:46:27 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Riemer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Kernel crash In-Reply-To: <36C4BA80.B5FFCD8D@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 598 Lines: 17 I'm trying to read the output from a kernel crash on my 2100 - I'm trying one more time to get my sii driver to begin responding.... Anyway - the kernel is spitting out a Call Trace, listing calls - it looks something like: Call Trace: Call Trace: [<80047eb8>] [<800c120c>] [<80047eb8>] etc.... Here's the question: How does one read this? Is the first number after Call Trace the last call or the first call on the stack... The call trace series that I'm getting doesn't seem to make much sense either way. But it would help immensely to know which way to read the Call Trace. -Tom Riemer From imp@village.org Sun Feb 14 08:24:10 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA01785; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:24:08 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:24:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 10BvuK-0003et-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:24:00 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA28208; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:26:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902140726.AAA28208@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: Richard Mallah Subject: Re: I wish to port Linux to my MIPS R4000-based handheld PC. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:10:19 EST." <36BD122B.D2189B7C@prodigy.net> References: <36BD122B.D2189B7C@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:26:03 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 2022 Lines: 41 In message <36BD122B.D2189B7C@prodigy.net> Richard Mallah writes: : I have a Philips Velo 1 handheld PC from circa : 1997. I love and use Linux a lot on my desktop : x86, and I wish to port Linux to this palmtop. It : has a MIPS R4000 processor at around 33MHz, 12 MB : of non-volatile RAM, and a FlashRAM drive that : also supports operating system ROM upgrades. (It : is currently running MS Windows CE.) : I was wondering if you know about any : implementations of Linux on HPCs, or if not, if : you think it could be viable. : What size do you estimate the minimum installation : of Linux would need for RAM and for : harddrive/secondary storage? 12MB RAM is good enough for Linux. There are two efforts that I'm aware of along these lines. The first is to get gcc to the point that it can generate wince executables for mips. I'm working on that. The second is a wince boot loader, which someone else is working on and can load images up to 256k right now. A third effort would be needed to get Linux working on the specific Rxxxx processor that is in that machine. I've been focusing on getting OpenBSD/arc working on my NEC MobilePro 400 and 450 with the Vr4101 processor (and will likely move up to the Vr4111 processor when the new color palmtops come out and kill the mono palmtops and drive their prices down to nothing). Getting Linux/MIPS working wouldn't be much harder as so far I've had to make only three changes to OpenBSD/arc: identify Vr41xx, use the "new" cache sizing the Vr41xx series uses and hardwire the TLB entries to 32 rather than 48. Not that I've booted this yet, since my MobilePros are currently fubar'd due to dropping them both once (I was carrying them both) :-(. The VELO uses the Philips R3990 chipset, if memory serves me correctly. You can find information on this chipset at either philip's web site, or from microsoft's palmtop wince sdk/ddk from their website. There are likely some non-trivial number of quirks that will need to be addressed in some way. Warner From imp@village.org Sun Feb 14 08:26:00 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA01820; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:25:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:25:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 10BvwA-0003f4-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:25:54 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA28226; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:27:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902140727.AAA28226@harmony.village.org> Cc: "Per Christopher Aarøe Undheim" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux on Mips based Handheld computer In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:47:44 +0100." <36BEDCEF.F0A71740@ifi.uio.no> References: <36BEDCEF.F0A71740@ifi.uio.no> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:27:59 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 1055 Lines: 29 In message <36BEDCEF.F0A71740@ifi.uio.no> "Per Christopher Aar e Undheim" writes: : Any development ongoing for getting linux on Handheld mips based : computers as the Compaq C-series machines? No. : They run a 75 mhz MIPS risc : prosessor, but as of now, I havent gotten any extencive info from compaq : about the cpu. That matters a lot :-) : I am planing to buy myself on on theese machines, and : running windows CE is not an option ;) Theese machines has many snacksy : features, and should be a cool machine to run linux on.. The base models : is equiped with 8-20-32 mb ram a 16 mb rom (obviosly need some info : from compaq into how the rom could be removed/ replaced/erased.) allso : supporting flash cards for storage. You can't erase the ROMs, but you can replace them. However, that is non-trivial. : Please let me know if you have any input. I fear I will spend much time : in hacking around with it all on my own ;P See my other messages to linux-mips for the status of the generic efforts to get Linux on these machines. Warner From imp@village.org Sun Feb 14 08:27:13 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA01858; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:27:11 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:27:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 10BvxL-0003f6-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:27:07 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA28237; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:29:11 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902140729.AAA28237@harmony.village.org> Cc: "montgomery f. tidwell" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Any hope for the Magnum 3000? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:36:54 PST." <36C5B836.D733DE43@mail.com> References: <36C5B836.D733DE43@mail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:29:10 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 138 Lines: 6 In message <36C5B836.D733DE43@mail.com> "montgomery f. tidwell" writes: : is there hope of seeing Linux on the Magnum 3000? Yes. Warner From mtidwell@mail.com Sun Feb 14 09:07:57 1999 Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA03845; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:07:56 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:07:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from [207.5.59.169] (dial169.magiclink.net [207.5.59.169]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA00173 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:07:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36C683C4.17121FD4@mail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:05:24 -0800 From: "montgomery f. tidwell" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Any hope for the Magnum 3000? References: <36C5B836.D733DE43@mail.com> <199902140729.AAA28237@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 247 Lines: 15 Howdy, any idea of when that might be? \\//_ Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <36C5B836.D733DE43@mail.com> "montgomery f. tidwell" writes: > : is there hope of seeing Linux on the Magnum 3000? > > Yes. > > Warner From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Feb 15 00:00:56 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA09152; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:59:52 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:59:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.26]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17049 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:59:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA00652; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:50:24 +0100 Message-ID: <19990214235024.B644@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:50:24 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Linux 2.2.1 and 2.2.0-pre5 bug Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Content-Length: 282 Lines: 8 Hi, I'm about to commit Linux 2.2.1 into CVS. I received email from people who were attempting to upgrade their older 2.1.131 sources themselfes and ran into a problem with 2.2.2-pre5. Well, I fixed that problem in my source which are going to CVS, so try these sources. Ralf From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Feb 15 00:35:33 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA10296; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:35:32 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:35:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.26]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18567 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:34:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA20228; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:29:03 +0100 Message-ID: <19990215002746.C644@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:27:46 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Memory corruption on Indy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Content-Length: 446 Lines: 15 Hi all, since quite some time I've tried to find a memory corruption bug on my Indy. I now suspect that the actual cause is a hardware problem and a recent IRIX kernel core dump supports that theory. Just to be on the safe side, could people running Linux on Indys please run something like find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym several times and compare the obtained output. Do they differ in any unexplainable way? Thanks, Ralf From tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Mon Feb 15 01:42:28 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA10945; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:42:27 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:42:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id BAA23476; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:42:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA02914; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:32:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19990215013210.A2910@alpha.franken.de> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:32:10 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Memory corruption on Indy References: <19990215002746.C644@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990215002746.C644@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 12:27:46AM +0100 Content-Length: 635 Lines: 17 On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 12:27:46AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym > > several times and compare the obtained output. Do they differ in any > unexplainable way? do you want, that everybody crash their Indys ? Everybody, who wants to run the find, should umount /proc before doing it. Otherwise the kernel will crash, when the md5sum /proc/kcore happens. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Feb 15 02:18:12 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA11160; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:18:06 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:18:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-15.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.15]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA17510 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:16:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA22094; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:41:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19990215014103.D644@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:41:03 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: VID_HARDWARE_VINO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Content-Length: 137 Lines: 4 Due to a collission with Linus sources I had to change the value of this define to 19 in include/linux/videodev.h for the merge. Ralf From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Feb 15 03:15:36 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA12768; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:15:35 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:15:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-15.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.15]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA18882 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:15:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA22237; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:05:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19990215020511.E644@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:05:11 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Memory corruption on Indy References: <19990215002746.C644@uni-koblenz.de> <19990215013210.A2910@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990215013210.A2910@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 01:32:10AM +0100 Content-Length: 568 Lines: 16 On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 01:32:10AM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 12:27:46AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym > > > > several times and compare the obtained output. Do they differ in any > > unexplainable way? > > do you want, that everybody crash their Indys ? > > Everybody, who wants to run the find, should umount /proc before doing it. > Otherwise the kernel will crash, when the md5sum /proc/kcore happens. That's what the -fstype ext2 is supposed to take care of :-) Ralf From nico@CAM.ORG Mon Feb 15 02:12:03 1999 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA11114; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:12:01 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:12:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA13778; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:10:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:10:39 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Thomas Bogendoerfer cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Memory corruption on Indy In-Reply-To: <19990215013210.A2910@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 589 Lines: 20 On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 12:27:46AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym > > > > several times and compare the obtained output. Do they differ in any > > unexplainable way? > > do you want, that everybody crash their Indys ? > > Everybody, who wants to run the find, should umount /proc before doing it. > Otherwise the kernel will crash, when the md5sum /proc/kcore happens. The "-fstype ext2" should prevent find from entering /proc. Isn't it? Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Mon Feb 15 14:41:19 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA16457; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:12 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port60.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.60]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31275 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:40:50 +0100 X-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:43:10 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: FYI Content-Length: 2294 Lines: 62 Hi, thought you might be interested: KN05 V2.1k >>boot 3/tftp/vmlinux.r4k console=ttyS2 [boring stuff snipped] DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03 tty00 at 0xbf900001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty01 at 0xbf900009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty02 at 0xbf980001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty03 at 0xbf980009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC SCSI ID 7 Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 scsi : 1 host. Vendor: DEC Model: RZ25 (C) DEC Rev: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Vendor: DEC Model: RZ25 (C) DEC Rev: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. esp0: target 2 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] sda: Spinning up disk.............ready SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 832527 [406 MB] [0.4 GB] esp0: target 3 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] sdb: Spinning up disk.............ready SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 832527 [406 MB] [0.4 GB] declance.c: v0.008 by Linux Mips DECstation task force eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:31:a9:ff, irq = 3 Sending BOOTP requests.... OK IP-Config: Got BOOTP answer from 192.168.0.2, my address is 192.168.0.3 Partition check: sda: unknown partition table sdb: unknown partition table Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 192.168.0.2 Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 192.168.0.2 VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem). Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed INIT: version 2.76 booting [...] This is on my DS5k/260 with the onboard NCR 53C94 and rudimentary DMA support. This is _not_ a fully functional SCSI driver and will _definitely_ _not_ work on other machines. To be honest, I am amazed that the disks are detected properly and really spin up! Just wanted to let you know. --- Regards, Harald P.S.: CONFIG_UFS doesn't compile: fs/filesystems.a(ufs.o): In function `ufs_read_inode': inode.c(.text+0x81a0): undefined reference to `__fswab64' inode.c(.text+0x81a0): relocation truncated to fit: R_MIPS_26 __fswab64 Should be easy to fix... From pietro.cornelio@italtel.it Mon Feb 15 14:44:41 1999 Received: from mex.italtel.it (mex.italtel.it [138.132.53.99]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA16502; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:44:38 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:44:38 +0100 (MET) Received: .(iltws72 [138.132.52.82]) by mex.italtel.it (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA18491 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:42:44 +0100 (MET) Received: .(localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iltws72.settimo.italtel.it (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA24881 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:39:33 +0100 (MET) Received: by iltwd03.settimo.italtel.it (5.65/sal-941220); id AA15575; Mon, 15 Feb 99 14:36:17 +0100 Received: by ic8u32.settimo.italtel.it; id AA05266; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:50:58 +0100 Received: by ismvc2.smcv.italtel.it (UCX V4.1-12, OpenVMS V6.2 Alpha); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:42:49 +0100 Message-Id: <36C82487.39992FD7@italtel.it> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:43:36 +0100 From: Pietro Cornelio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: it Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux for DECstation 5000/125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 406 Lines: 14 Hi, I desire wonder could send me a CD-ROM with the complete installation of Linux for DECstation 5000/ 125. I work to the Italtel SpA and must installation Linux on a [workstation] 5000/ 125 but I don't succeed to effect the [bootp]/ [tftp] of the [kernel]. How much coast have the complete CD-ROM? Thank you! Pietro Cornelio Engineering Manager Italtel SpA pietro.cornelio@italtel.it p.cornelio@iol.it From alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Mon Feb 15 15:20:04 1999 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA16732; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:19:56 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:19:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (lightning.swansea.uk.linux.org [194.168.151.1]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA05384; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:18:58 GMT Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m10CPiv-0007U1C; Mon, 15 Feb 99 15:14 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: VID_HARDWARE_VINO To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:14:12 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19990215014103.D644@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Feb 15, 99 01:41:03 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 231 Lines: 5 > Due to a collission with Linus sources I had to change the value of this > define to 19 in include/linux/videodev.h for the merge. And you'll continue to get collisions until you submit me a patch to add it to the master set 8) From rajko@mech.math.msu.su Tue Feb 16 13:21:33 1999 Received: from mech.math.msu.su (rajko@mech.math.msu.su [158.250.33.65]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA23789; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:21:28 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:21:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (rajko@localhost) by mech.math.msu.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA22455 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:21:14 +0300 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:21:14 +0300 (EET) From: "Gleb O. Rajko" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 502 Lines: 17 On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > P.S.: CONFIG_UFS doesn't compile: > fs/filesystems.a(ufs.o): In function `ufs_read_inode': > inode.c(.text+0x81a0): undefined reference to `__fswab64' > inode.c(.text+0x81a0): relocation truncated to fit: R_MIPS_26 __fswab64 > > Should be easy to fix... > I've sent the patch to Ralf. Just replace in include/asm-mips/bitops.h #include -#include /* sigh ... */ +#include Gleb. From RE-Glaue@wiu.edu Fri Feb 19 19:34:14 1999 Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA03476; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:34:13 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:34:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from ecom5.ecnet.net (root@ecom5 [143.43.32.25]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id DAA24141; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 03:52:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mureg3@localhost) by ecom5.ecnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA14712; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:43:34 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom5.ecnet.net: mureg3 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:43:34 -0600 (CST) From: Russell E Glaue X-Sender: mureg3@ecom5 Reply-To: Russell E Glaue To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: R4600 MIPS/Linux In-Reply-To: <19990215013210.A2910@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 184 Lines: 7 Does anyone have a running Linux system on the Deststation Tyne R4600 MIPS/133MHz machine? +------------------------------------------+ -----russ----- re-glaue@wiu.edu From <@Cologne.DE:karsten@excalibur.cologne.de> Wed Feb 17 22:04:00 1999 Received: from fileserv2.Cologne.DE (fileserv2.cologne.de [193.29.188.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA06644; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:03:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:03:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (1465 bytes) by fileserv2.Cologne.DE via rmail with P:stdio/R:bind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:03:50 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #5 built 1998-Jan-19) Received: (from karsten@localhost) by excalibur.cologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA25718; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:59:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19990217095914.A16821@excalibur.cologne.de> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:59:14 +0100 From: Karsten Merker To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Cross-gcc for mipsel-linux Mail-Followup-To: linux-mips@fnet.fr References: <19990206234056.A8869@excalibur.cologne.de> <19990208213802.A11849@excalibur.cologne.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <19990208213802.A11849@excalibur.cologne.de>; from Karsten Merker on Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 09:38:02PM +0100 X-No-Archive: yes Content-Length: 652 Lines: 16 Hallo everybody, the first version of my mipsel-cross-binutils- and mipsel-cross-egcs-RPMs are available on ftp://bolug.uni-bonn.de/mips/ as both source- and binary-RPMs (i386/glibc, built on RedHat 5.2 but should work on SuSE 6.0 without modification). The compiler currently can only compile a kernel but no user space applications due to the fact that I have not succeded yet in cross-compiling glibc, but I keep trying. Greetings, Karsten -- #include Nach Paragraph 28 Abs. 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbezwecke oder fuer die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung. From taizo@tam635.ansf.alcatel.fr Wed Feb 17 10:25:44 1999 Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA01939; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:25:43 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:25:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id KAA06002 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:24:42 +0100 Received: from diplodo (tam635.ansf.alcatel.fr [155.132.199.35]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id KAA13783 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:22:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:25:08 +0100 (MET) From: Taizo Suzuki Sender: taizo@diplodo Reply-To: Taizo Suzuki Subject: Linux pour MIPS DECstation To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 172 Lines: 8 Bonjour. Ou peut-on se procurer le CDROM de la distribution Linux version 2.x pour MIPS DEC Station 5000/240 ? Cordialement. Taizo Suzuki From rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu Wed Feb 17 12:45:05 1999 Received: from osf1.gmu.edu (osf1.gmu.edu [129.174.1.13]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA02950; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:44:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:44:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (rraffer1@localhost) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA14084 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:44:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:44:44 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Rafferty To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux pour MIPS DECstation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 535 Lines: 22 furansu-go de kakeba ii to, nihongo ya doitu-go mo ii kashira ne :). Is there a preference for the languages to be used on this list? I can usually understand written French if the context is clear, but there may be people on this list who do not have much familiarity with the language. Ryan On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Taizo Suzuki wrote: > Bonjour. > > Ou peut-on se procurer le CDROM de la distribution Linux version 2.x pour MIPS > DEC Station 5000/240 ? > > Cordialement. > > Taizo Suzuki > > From <@Cologne.DE:karsten@excalibur.cologne.de> Thu Feb 18 22:46:54 1999 Received: from fileserv2.Cologne.DE (fileserv2.cologne.de [193.29.188.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA23066; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:46:52 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:46:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (1628 bytes) by fileserv2.Cologne.DE via rmail with P:stdio/R:bind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:46:46 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #5 built 1998-Jan-19) Received: (from karsten@localhost) by excalibur.cologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA01541; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:34:27 +0100 Message-ID: <19990217223426.A1087@excalibur.cologne.de> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:34:26 +0100 From: Karsten Merker To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: Taizo Suzuki Subject: Re: Linux pour MIPS DECstation Mail-Followup-To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, Taizo Suzuki References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: ; from Taizo Suzuki on Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 10:25:08AM +0100 X-No-Archive: yes Content-Length: 752 Lines: 20 Taizo Suzuki wrote on linux-mips@fnet.fr: > Ou peut-on se procurer le CDROM de la distribution Linux version 2.x pour MIPS > DEC Station 5000/240 ? Il n'existe pas de distribution en CDROM avec Linux-MIPS pour DECstation. Excusez mon Francais tres limite, je dois ecrire en Anglais... The kernel is still missing many device drivers and it has just started going multiuser on some machines, so it will most probably still need some time until it makes sense to contruct a real "distribution" for DECstation-Linux. Greetings, Karsten Merker -- #include Nach Paragraph 28 Abs. 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbezwecke oder fuer die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung. From ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se Thu Feb 18 03:11:40 1999 Received: from calypso.saturn (root@dialup71-1-16.swipnet.se [130.244.71.16]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA10215; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:11:37 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:11:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by bun.falkenberg.se via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:11:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:11:46 +0100 From: Ulf Carlsson To: Alan Cox Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: VID_HARDWARE_VINO Message-ID: <19990218031146.A19022@bun.falkenberg.se> Mail-Followup-To: Alan Cox , ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu References: <19990215014103.D644@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 03:14:12PM +0000 Content-Length: 295 Lines: 9 > > Due to a collission with Linus sources I had to change the value of this > > define to 19 in include/linux/videodev.h for the merge. > > And you'll continue to get collisions until you submit me a patch to add it > to the master set 8) Has Ralf already done this or should I do it? - Ulf From alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Thu Feb 18 03:13:31 1999 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA10242; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:13:30 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:13:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (lightning.swansea.uk.linux.org [194.168.151.1]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id CAA14104; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:12:59 GMT Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m10DJov-0007U1C; Thu, 18 Feb 99 03:08 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: VID_HARDWARE_VINO To: ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se (Ulf Carlsson) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:08:08 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19990218031146.A19022@bun.falkenberg.se> from "Ulf Carlsson" at Feb 18, 99 03:11:46 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 70 Lines: 3 > Has Ralf already done this or should I do it? You should I suspect From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Thu Feb 18 07:37:40 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA13318; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:37:39 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:37:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3519) with SMTP id <01J7VQHTXLK80000RM@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:37:36 +0200 Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA13200; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:37:31 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:37:31 +0100 From: "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" Subject: Re: On my DECStation.... In-reply-to: "Your message of Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:57:54 +0100." <19990209225754.A2097@alpha.franken.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Reply-to: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Message-id: <199902180637.HAA13200@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Face: ";:TzQQC{mTp~$W,'m4@Lu1Lu$rtG_~5kvYO~F:C'KExk9o1X"iRz[0%{bq?6Aj#>VhSD?v 1W9`.Qsf+P&*iQEL8&y,RDj&U.]!(R-?c-h5h%Iw%r$|%6+Jc>GTJe!_1&A0o'lC[`I#={2BzOXT1P q366I$WL=;[+SDo1RoIT+a}_y68Y:jQ^xp4=*4-ryiymi>hy Content-Length: 736 Lines: 25 "long' ago, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > do really have an ESP236 ? If not your problem might be because of this > false detection. I had the same problem during my first attempts with the > NCR53C9x driver. My detection was messed up, because of a wrong structure > for the NCR registers. Hi Thomas, Yesterday I finally found time to open my DECStation again. Both the onboard SCSI, and the turbochannel SCSI card are NCR 53C94 based. Does this match with ESP236? Regards, Karel. -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Feb 19 01:27:20 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA26357; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:27:19 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:27:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA23631 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:27:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27786 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: <19990218102301.F25582@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:23:01 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Cross-gcc for mipsel-linux References: <19990206234056.A8869@excalibur.cologne.de> <19990208213802.A11849@excalibur.cologne.de> <19990217095914.A16821@excalibur.cologne.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990217095914.A16821@excalibur.cologne.de>; from Karsten Merker on Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 09:59:14AM +0100 Content-Length: 635 Lines: 13 On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 09:59:14AM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote: > the first version of my mipsel-cross-binutils- and mipsel-cross-egcs-RPMs > are available on ftp://bolug.uni-bonn.de/mips/ as both source- and > binary-RPMs (i386/glibc, built on RedHat 5.2 but should work on SuSE 6.0 > without modification). The compiler currently can only compile a kernel > but no user space applications due to the fact that I have not succeded > yet in cross-compiling glibc, but I keep trying. You should use the binaries from a native compilation as a crosscompiled glibc won't build some files which require native tools like rpcgen. Ralf From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Thu Feb 18 20:30:27 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA17745; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:25 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port55.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.55]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17457 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:13 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990209225754.A2097@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:32:36 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: On my DECStation.... Content-Length: 726 Lines: 24 Hi, On 09-Feb-99 Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:07:30PM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: >> ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. >> scsi0 : ESP236 > > do really have an ESP236 ? If not your problem might be because of this > false detection. I had the same problem during my first attempts with > the > NCR53C9x driver. My detection was messed up, because of a wrong > structure > for the NCR registers. > > Thomas. Well, I am not exactly shure. As Karel already pointed out, the chips in the DECstations are genuine NCR 53C94. According to the comments in NCR53C9x.c this maps to an ESP236 but, to be honest, I really don't care. Please see my other posting :-). --- Regards, Harald From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Thu Feb 18 20:30:28 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA17746; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:25 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port55.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.55]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17461 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:15 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:32:38 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI Content-Length: 607 Lines: 24 Hi, On 16-Feb-99 Gleb O. Rajko wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > >> P.S.: CONFIG_UFS doesn't compile: >> fs/filesystems.a(ufs.o): In function `ufs_read_inode': >> inode.c(.text+0x81a0): undefined reference to `__fswab64' >> inode.c(.text+0x81a0): relocation truncated to fit: R_MIPS_26 __fswab64 >> >> Should be easy to fix... >> > I've sent the patch to Ralf. Just replace in include/asm-mips/bitops.h > #include > -#include /* sigh ... */ > +#include > > Gleb. Thanks, that did it. --- Regards, Harald From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Thu Feb 18 20:30:29 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA17747; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:26 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port55.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.55]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17465 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:30:15 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:32:39 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: FYI (part II) Content-Length: 3018 Lines: 88 Hi all, I have just uploaded patch-2.1.131-pl2.gz to ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/ >>boot 3/tftp/vmlinux.r3k console=ttyS2 root=/dev/sdb 1284768+113008+120640 Launching kernel... This DECstation is a DS5000/1xx Loading R[23]00 MMU routines. CPU revision is: 00000230 [...] SCSI ID 7 Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 scsi : 1 host. Vendor: DEC Model: RZ25 (C) DEC Rev: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Vendor: DEC Model: RZ26 (C) DEC Rev: T386 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. esp0: target 3 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] sda: Spinning up disk..............ready SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 832527 [406 MB] [0.4 GB] esp0: target 4 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] sdb: Spinning up disk.................ready SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2050860 [1001 MB] [1.0 GB] declance.c: v0.008 by Linux Mips DECstation task force eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:37:f0:99, irq = 3 Sending BOOTP requests.... OK IP-Config: Got BOOTP answer from 192.168.0.2, my address is 192.168.0.4 Partition check: sda: sda3 sda7 sdb: unknown partition table VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed INIT: version 2.74 booting [...] [root@localhost /root]# mount /dev/sdb on / type ext2 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) [root@localhost /root]# cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 8 0 416263 sda 8 1 21084 sda1 8 2 192768 sda2 8 3 416263 sda3 8 4 31124 sda4 8 7 171287 sda7 8 16 1025430 sdb [root@localhost /root]# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -t ufs -o ufstype=sun [root@localhost /root]# ls /mnt Mail harry sys var [...] [root@localhost /root]# mount /dev/sdb on / type ext2 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) /dev/sda1 on /mnt type ufs (rw,ufstype=sun) This SCSI driver still has rudimentary DMA support and will certainly fail under the following conditions: o Start address not longword aligned o End address not longword aligned o Number oy bytes to be transferred not a multiple of four It seems as if the higher layers handle this nicely for us because I haven't seen any problem so far with disk drives. Nevertheless: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Using this SCSI driver can damage your hardware! Support for Ultrix disklabels is experimental and mounting Ultrix partitions can destroy them. The UFS layer, when mounting Ultrix partitions, complains "ufs_read_super: fs needs fsck" and mounts them readonly. Be careful! Do not do this unless you know what you are doing. Nevertheless, have fun. :-) --- Regards, Harald From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Thu Feb 18 20:35:35 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA17862; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:35:33 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:35:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port56.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.56]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17823 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:35:23 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:37:46 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: RE: FYI (part II) Content-Length: 160 Lines: 8 Hi, sorry. I forgot to mention: This driver works on my /260 and on my /133 and should, in theory, work on other IOASIC machines as well. --- Regards, Harald From Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Thu Feb 18 21:04:13 1999 Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA21562; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:04:11 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:04:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.no.dom (port59.koeln.ivm.de [195.247.239.59]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19183 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:04:01 +0100 X-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:06:24 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.no.dom From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: RE: FYI (part II) Content-Length: 197 Lines: 9 Hi, looks like I'm somewhat unconcentrated this evening. patch-2.1.131-pl2 is against a vanilla source tree from http://decstation.unix-ag.org and contains patch-2.1.131-pl1. --- Regards, Harald From tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Fri Feb 19 00:32:15 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA25132; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:32:14 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:32:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id AAA21765; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:32:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA03645 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:28:57 +0100 Message-ID: <19990219002857.A3642@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:28:57 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI (part II) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Harald Koerfgen on Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 08:32:39PM +0100 Content-Length: 684 Lines: 17 On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 08:32:39PM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > This SCSI driver still has rudimentary DMA support and will certainly fail > under the following conditions: > > o Start address not longword aligned > o End address not longword aligned > o Number oy bytes to be transferred not a multiple of four shouldn't happen. You always get addresses from the page/buffer cache, which are longword aligned and either page size or block size large. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Fri Feb 19 00:34:59 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA25163; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id AAA21802; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA03651 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:31:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19990219003142.B3642@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:31:42 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: On my DECStation.... References: <19990209225754.A2097@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Harald Koerfgen on Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 08:32:36PM +0100 Content-Length: 731 Lines: 16 On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 08:32:36PM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > Well, I am not exactly shure. As Karel already pointed out, the chips in > the DECstations are genuine NCR 53C94. According to the comments in > NCR53C9x.c this maps to an ESP236 but, to be honest, I really don't care. > Please see my other posting :-). good work:-) My problem then, was that my fas216 was identified as fashme, which seems to be a little weird hardware (speak buggy) and my fas216 didn't like the fashme workarounds. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From hkoerfg1@ford.com Fri Feb 19 08:09:59 1999 Received: from mailfw1.ford.com (mailfw1.ford.com [136.1.1.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA28709; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:09:57 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:09:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by mailfw1.ford.com id CAA10368 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:09:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199902190709.CAA10368@mailfw1.ford.com> Received: by mailfw1.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:09:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:09:51 +0100 From: Harald Koerfgen Organization: Ford Motor Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-c32f404p (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI (part II) References: <19990219002857.A3642@alpha.franken.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 731 Lines: 23 Hi, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 08:32:39PM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > > This SCSI driver still has rudimentary DMA support and will certainly fail > > under the following conditions: > > > > o Start address not longword aligned > > o End address not longword aligned > > o Number oy bytes to be transferred not a multiple of four > > shouldn't happen. You always get addresses from the page/buffer cache, > which are longword aligned and either page size or block size large. > > Thomas. Thanks for the explanation, Thomas. That's what I assumed when seeing that hard drives seem to work, but what about more character oriented SCSI devices? Scanners and tapes come to mind. Greetings, Harald From mh@cs.tu-berlin.de Fri Feb 19 14:23:49 1999 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA00870; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:23:45 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:23:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from donald.cs.tu-berlin.de (mh@donald.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.41]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13197 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:15:30 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Heidbrink Received: (from mh@localhost) by donald.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA00074 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:15:27 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902191315.OAA00074@donald.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: FYI (part II) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:15:26 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199902190709.CAA10368@mailfw1.ford.com> from "Harald Koerfgen" at Feb 19, 99 08:09:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1109 Lines: 24 Hi Harald, > Thanks for the explanation, Thomas. That's what I assumed when seeing > that hard drives seem to work, but what about more character oriented > SCSI devices? Scanners and tapes come to mind. I don't know much about scanners, but tapes are definitely block devices - just without or with very limited random access (depends on the type of device). If you access hard disks, etc. as character devices, the operating system uses internal buffers and reads or writes only whole disk blocks from or to the device. I have never heared of any SCSI devices which are "character devices". I would guess that the protocol overhead would be so large that it wouldn't make much sense. But I don't know the SCSI specification exactly, I cannot tell if character devices might be possible. Ciao, Matthias -- Matthias Heidbrink E-Mail: Helmstedter Str. 20 Matthias_Heidbrink@b.maus.de (max. 16 KB/day) 10717 Berlin, Germany mh@cs.tu-berlin.de Tel. +49-30-8536361 mh@carano.de (at work; http://www.carano.com) Offene Liste Informatik: http://autos.cs.tu-berlin.de/OLI/ From triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com Fri Feb 19 14:44:51 1999 Received: from apt4g.a3nyc.com (triemer@apt4g.a3nyc.com [166.84.184.179]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA01424; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:44:45 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:44:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (triemer@localhost) by apt4g.a3nyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA01768 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:44:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:44:40 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Riemer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: sii driver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 411 Lines: 11 A little progress note... I finally got my sii scsi driver to generate interrupts and catch them - and NOT crash the kernel. I had forgotten a single pointer reference in the set_timer routine... Maybe in the next couple of days I can get the thing to actually detect my scsi drive... -Tom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Given enough eyeballs all bugs seem shallow. From tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Sat Feb 20 01:39:23 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA07132; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:39:22 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:39:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id BAA07226; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:39:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA03495 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:32:27 +0100 Message-ID: <19990220013226.A3491@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:32:26 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI (part II) References: <19990219002857.A3642@alpha.franken.de> <199902190709.CAA10368@mailfw1.ford.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199902190709.CAA10368@mailfw1.ford.com>; from Harald Koerfgen on Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 08:09:51AM +0100 Content-Length: 834 Lines: 17 On Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 08:09:51AM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > Thanks for the explanation, Thomas. That's what I assumed when seeing > that hard drives seem to work, but what about more character oriented > SCSI devices? Scanners and tapes come to mind. I have to correct myself. Even for disk io you will see allocations smaller than 1k/4k. I've noticed that while debugging the dvma code for my Sun 3/80. I guess the only assumption, which is still true for kernel only use is the aligned. But I can think of a bad program, which uses scsi generic devices and doesn't align scsi commands and data. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. 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From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Feb 23 00:03:05 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA00146; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:03:03 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:03:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (pmport-01.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.1]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17312 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:02:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA00604; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:27:24 +0100 Message-ID: <19990222232723.A502@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:27:23 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Russell E Glaue , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: R4600 MIPS/Linux References: <19990215013210.A2910@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Russell E Glaue on Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 08:43:34PM -0600 Content-Length: 298 Lines: 9 On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 08:43:34PM -0600, Russell E Glaue wrote: > Does anyone have a running Linux system on the Deststation Tyne R4600 > MIPS/133MHz machine? 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id XAA08150; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:50:51 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:50:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.24]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA22945 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:50:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA02851; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:23:47 +0100 Message-ID: <19990223232347.A2847@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:23:47 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Old Mips systems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Content-Length: 3129 Lines: 82 Ok, got another pile of email from people asking about the state of Linux for the RC3030 and similar. Here is slightly edited the bootup of Linux on an embedded machine that is derived from Mips Computer Systems, Inc. (RIP) own systems. Any port to another system, will be easy, especially when combining the DECstation and Baget R3000 effort's results with that. Stay tuned, more soon, Ralf Fast ethernet (FEN): 10 MBit/s, half duplex Autoboot: Waiting to load bfs()/tftpboot/193.98.169.22/vmlinux (CTRL-C to abort) loading Fast ethernet (FEN): 10 MBit/s, half duplex Obtaining /tftpboot/193.98.169.22/vmlinux from server linux 1002832+0+107396 entry: 0x800205dc CPU revision is: 00002110 Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 32 bytes) Primary data cache 16kb, linesize 32 bytes) Linux version 2.2.1 (ralf@indy) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) #496 Tue Feb 23 19:40:23 MET 1999 Console: ttyS0 (Zilog8530) Calibrating delay loop... 99.94 BogoMIPS Memory: 14960k/16380k available (844k kernel code, 444k data) Checking for 'wait' instruction... available. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX PCI: Probing PCI hardware Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP Starting kswapd v 1.5 MIPS Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.32 tty00 at 0xbf022003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty01 at 0xbf020003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty02 at 0xbf026003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty03 at 0xbf024003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty04 at 0xbf032003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty05 at 0xbf030003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty06 at 0xbf036003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty07 at 0xbf034003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty08 at 0xbf03a003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty09 at 0xbf038003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty10 at 0xbf03e003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tty11 at 0xbf03c003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530 tulip.c:v0.89H 5/23/98 becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov eth0: Digital DS21140 Tulip at 0x1f090000, EEPROM not present, 00 00 ad 00 e3 0a, IRQ 4. eth0: MII transceiver found at MDIO address 8, config 1000 status 786d. Sending BOOTP requests.... OK IP-Config: Got BOOTP answer from 193.98.169.11, my address is 193.98.169.22 Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 193.98.169.11 Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 193.98.169.11 VFS: Mounted root (NFS filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed INIT: version 2.74 booting Activating swap partitions hostname: exterminata.mips-man.org Checking root filesystems. Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode. Checking filesystems. Mounting local filesystems. Setting clock: Mon Feb 23 23:00:00 MET 1999 Enabling swap space. Initializing random number generator... INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 Mounting remote filesystems. Starting system loggers: syslogd klogd Starting at daemon: atd Starting cron daemon: crond Starting portmapper: portmap Starting INET services: inetd Starting sshd: sshd Starting sendmail: sendmail Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo) Kernel 2.2.1 on a mips exterminata.mips-man.org login: From mtidwell@mail.com Wed Feb 24 00:48:52 1999 Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA10377; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:48:51 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:48:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.com (dial160.magiclink.net [207.5.59.160]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16271 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:48:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36D33DB8.2674EA01@mail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:46:00 -0800 From: montgomery tidwell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Old Mips systems References: <19990223232347.A2847@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 537 Lines: 21 Howdy, Wow! that looks great. a new life for my old RC3230! \\//_ ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Ok, got another pile of email from people asking about the state of Linux > for the RC3030 and similar. Here is slightly edited the bootup of Linux > on an embedded machine that is derived from Mips Computer Systems, Inc. (RIP) > own systems. Any port to another system, will be easy, especially when > combining the DECstation and Baget R3000 effort's results with that. > > Stay tuned, more soon, > > Ralf > > ... From imp@harmony.village.org Wed Feb 24 02:09:53 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA11800; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 02:09:51 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 02:09:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA05115 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:09:47 GMT Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA58365 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:09:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902240109.SAA58365@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: My new book about MIPS In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:42:12 GMT." <199902222342.XAA01260@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> References: <199902222342.XAA01260@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:09:50 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 446 Lines: 12 In message <199902222342.XAA01260@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Dominic Sweetman writes: : or from Morgan Kaufmann in the US: : http://www.mkp.com/books_catalog/1-55860-410-3.asp I found that I cound't order from them, not matter what I tried. Somewhat frustrating. I did get a copy from Amazon.com, but it was $8 more than the $49 listed at mkp when shipping was added. Still, if it is half as good as it looks, it will be $58 well spent. Warner From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Wed Feb 24 09:54:46 1999 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA14984; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:28 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3519) with SMTP id <01J8490BASSM0001SQ@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:21 +0200 Received: from sparta.research.kpn.com by sparta.research.kpn.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA08376; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:06 +0100 From: "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" Subject: Re: FYI (part II) In-reply-to: "Your message of Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:32:39 +0100." To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Reply-to: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Message-id: <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Face: ";:TzQQC{mTp~$W,'m4@Lu1Lu$rtG_~5kvYO~F:C'KExk9o1X"iRz[0%{bq?6Aj#>VhSD?v 1W9`.Qsf+P&*iQEL8&y,RDj&U.]!(R-?c-h5h%Iw%r$|%6+Jc>GTJe!_1&A0o'lC[`I#={2BzOXT1P q366I$WL=;[+SDo1RoIT+a}_y68Y:jQ^xp4=*4-ryiymi>hy Content-Length: 4520 Lines: 90 Hi all, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > This SCSI driver still has rudimentary DMA support and will certainly fail > under the following conditions: > > o Start address not longword aligned > o End address not longword aligned > o Number oy bytes to be transferred not a multiple of four > > It seems as if the higher layers handle this nicely for us because I > haven't seen any problem so far with disk drives. Nevertheless: USE AT > YOUR OWN RISK! Using this SCSI driver can damage your hardware! > > Support for Ultrix disklabels is experimental and mounting Ultrix > partitions can destroy them. The UFS layer, when mounting Ultrix > partitions, complains "ufs_read_super: fs needs fsck" and mounts them > readonly. Be careful! Do not do this unless you know what you are doing. > The SCSI driver works fine, although the kernel doesn't recognise my NetBSD disklabels. I'll look into that later. For now i've fdisk-ed one disk with a standard PC partition table, and that works fine. I've done some benchmarks on my DECStation, running Linux, NetBSD, and compared them with Linux on a P90. Here are the results: BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) DECStation DECStation PC 5000/260 5000/260 Pentium-90 Linux 2.1.131 NetBSD 1.3.3 Linux 2.0.x ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dhrystone 2 without register variables 104437.7 lps 119300.7 lps 111587.5 lps Dhrystone 2 using register variables 104897.9 lps 119531.3 lps 111653.7 lps Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 207193.5 lps 223145.1 lps 406588.3 lps Arithmetic Test (type = register) 10190.5 lps 10981.4 lps 13537.8 lps Arithmetic Test (type = short) 9961.7 lps 10777.0 lps 11885.6 lps Arithmetic Test (type = int) 10193.4 lps 10980.4 lps 13539.5 lps Arithmetic Test (type = long) 10207.1 lps 10980.0 lps 13541.4 lps Arithmetic Test (type = float) 23665.2 lps 25481.7 lps 15642.3 lps Arithmetic Test (type = double) 18489.3 lps 19916.5 lps 15655.7 lps System Call Overhead Test 63271.7 lps 42755.5 lps 67654.3 lps Pipe Throughput Test 42013.7 lps 14912.1 lps 49972.9 lps Pipe-based Context Switching Test 16076.7 lps 6792.1 lps 16265.3 lps Process Creation Test 38.7 lps 180.8 lps 538.7 lps Execl Throughput Test 11.6 lps 32.4 lps 83.0 lps File Read (10 seconds) 188359.0 KBps 71164.0 KBps 183065.0 KBps File Write (10 seconds) 8936.0 KBps 2400.0 KBps 11898.0 KBps File Copy (10 seconds) 5855.0 KBps 2299.0 KBps 2366.0 KBps File Read (30 seconds) 184830.0 KBps 76089.0 KBps 185199.0 KBps File Write (30 seconds) 11827.0 KBps 2133.0 KBps 18243.0 KBps File Copy (30 seconds) 2823.0 KBps 2175.0 KBps 2210.0 KBps C Compiler Test 32.4 lpm 39.2 lpm 97.3 lpm Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 34.2 lpm 81.3 lpm 170.0 lpm Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 18.4 lpm 45.3 lpm 89.0 lpm Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 9.2 lpm 24.0 lpm 45.3 lpm Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 5.0 lpm 12.0 lpm 23.0 lpm Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 1912.6 lpm ---- 3959.8 lpm Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 1373.0 lps 1528.5 lps 2087.7 lps ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bonnie results: (DECStation 5000/260 only) -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU NetBSD 100 1958 74.8 2057 18.2 1070 12.0 2244 91.6 2799 17.1 57.6 3.8 Linux 100 934 77.4 8120 91.3 1629 43.0 624 55.2 19759 92.1 1983.2 99.5 As you can see, the bonnie results show clearly that the currect SCSI driver uses a lot CPU, but I assume that will improve in the future. Good work Harald! Regards, Karel. -- Karel van Houten ---------------------------------------------------------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. ---------------------------------------------------------- From lembark@wrkhors.com Wed Feb 24 15:31:04 1999 Received: from bird.wrkhors.com (bird.wrkhors.com [206.180.156.161]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA16839; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:30:57 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:30:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from wrkhors.com (poolf4-027.wwa.com [207.241.63.220]) by bird.wrkhors.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA31719 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:30:23 -0600 Sender: lembark@wrkhors.com Message-ID: <36D40D0F.B3E16FDB@wrkhors.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:30:39 -0600 From: Steven Lembark Organization: Workhorse Computing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: My new book about MIPS References: <199902222342.XAA01260@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> <199902240109.SAA58365@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msE3FD6B2C6E1607C67826CB2E" Content-Length: 5354 Lines: 94 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msE3FD6B2C6E1607C67826CB2E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <199902222342.XAA01260@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Dominic Sweetman writes: > : or from Morgan Kaufmann in the US: > : http://www.mkp.com/books_catalog/1-55860-410-3.asp > > I found that I cound't order from them, not matter what I tried. > Somewhat frustrating. > > I did get a copy from Amazon.com, but it was $8 more than the $49 > listed at mkp when shipping was added. Still, if it is half as good > as it looks, it will be $58 well spent. order the book from OpAmp Tech. Books. they only charge cover (plus shipping). they have copies on the shelf -- along with almost any other tech book you've ever wanted. i've started buying books there because it's the only tech bookstore that takes returns. you can reach them at www.opampbooks.com enjoi, Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer St. Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 lembark@wrkhors.com 800-762-1582 --------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed here are those of this company. 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id AAA19911; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:08:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:08:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id AAA06296; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:08:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA01976 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:46:21 +0100 Message-ID: <19990224224621.A1972@alpha.franken.de> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:46:21 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI (part II) References: <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com>; from Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) on Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 09:54:06AM +0100 Content-Length: 800 Lines: 17 On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 09:54:06AM +0100, Houten K.H.C. van (Karel) wrote: > NetBSD 100 1958 74.8 2057 18.2 1070 12.0 2244 91.6 2799 17.1 57.6 3.8 > Linux 100 934 77.4 8120 91.3 1629 43.0 624 55.2 19759 92.1 1983.2 99.5 > > As you can see, the bonnie results show clearly that the currect SCSI driver > uses a lot CPU, but I assume that will improve in the future. I don't think so. For me it looks like your bonnie file is too small and your are measering how much buffer/page cache your machine could use:-) How much memory does this machine have ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From imp@harmony.village.org Thu Feb 25 09:09:30 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA24246; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:09:24 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:09:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09721; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:08:57 GMT Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.2/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA67557; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:09:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902250809.BAA67557@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: FYI (part II) Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:54:06 +0100." <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> References: <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:09:13 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 511 Lines: 16 In message <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> "Houten K.H.C. van (Karel)" writes: : NetBSD : Linux : : As you can see, the bonnie results show clearly that the currect SCSI driver : uses a lot CPU, but I assume that will improve in the future. Keep in mind that the NetBSD code you are comparing against uses a really ancient version of their scsi code. It is slow, even by their standards... I find it interesting that all of the Byte tests were faster on NetBSD, however. Odd, no? Warner From pvallino@cal.nice.fnclcc.fr Thu Feb 25 20:50:22 1999 Received: from nice.fnclcc.fr ([194.57.238.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA29392; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from cal.nice.fnclcc.fr ([172.20.65.69]) by nice.fnclcc.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA17489 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:23 +0100 Message-ID: <36D5A8CE.35152756@cal.nice.fnclcc.fr> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:47:26 +0100 From: pvallino X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: mail change notification References: <48c1d81727charlie.baylis@zetnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 464 Lines: 14 please could you unsubscribe : wally@netspace.fr thanks *************************************************************************** mailto: pvallino@cal.nice.fnclcc.fr Real Name:Dr P-F Vallino Correspondant technique Renater Coordonnateur de la cellule Internet Snail Mail: Centre Antoine Lacassagne DIM 33 av Valombrose 06050 Nice cedex 1 Tel: 04 92 03 12 89 fx:04 92 03 12 53 *************************************************************************** From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Feb 25 23:14:26 1999 Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA01489; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:14:25 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:14:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.14]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02958 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:14:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA02979; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:11:39 +0100 Message-ID: <19990225231138.D656@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:11:38 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Warner Losh , linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Subject: Re: FYI (part II) References: <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> <199902250809.BAA67557@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199902250809.BAA67557@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 01:09:13AM -0700 Content-Length: 703 Lines: 21 On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 01:09:13AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199902240854.JAA08376@sparta.research.kpn.com> "Houten > K.H.C. van (Karel)" writes: > : NetBSD > : Linux > : > : As you can see, the bonnie results show clearly that the currect SCSI driver > : uses a lot CPU, but I assume that will improve in the future. > > Keep in mind that the NetBSD code you are comparing against uses a > really ancient version of their scsi code. It is slow, even by their > standards... > > I find it interesting that all of the Byte tests were faster on > NetBSD, however. Odd, no? Some of the MIPS code really needs tuning, some is already _fast_. Everything in order of priority. Ralf From RE-Glaue@wiu.edu Fri Feb 26 06:22:43 1999 Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (root@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA05610; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 06:22:42 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 06:22:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from ecom5.ecnet.net (mureg3@ecom5 [143.43.32.25]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id XAA01145; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:22:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mureg3@localhost) by ecom5.ecnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA29578; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:22:16 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom5.ecnet.net: mureg3 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:22:16 -0600 (CST) From: Russell E Glaue X-Sender: mureg3@ecom5 Reply-To: Russell E Glaue To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Kernel support for R4600 MIPS In-Reply-To: <19990222232723.A502@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1245 Lines: 31 Okay, I know that the R4600 (Deskstation Tyne) is supported in the Linux Kernel. I saw it in there while browsing around the MIPS ported code of the latest Linux kernel. I also know that Linux was once successfully compiled for this processor in the 2.0.2x series. Does anyone know if I will be able to successfully cross-compile a working Linux kernel for the MIPS R4600 processor with the latest Linux source code? I understand that support is not kept up, but is the existing code still in a compilable state? :|On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 08:43:34PM -0600, Russell E Glaue wrote: :| :|> Does anyone have a running Linux system on the Deststation Tyne R4600 :|> MIPS/133MHz machine? :| :|No, since my Tyne died in late '94 we don't support this machine anymore. :|It'll take a kernel hacker to bring it back to live. :| :| Ralf +------------------------------------------+ -----russ----- |--- Russell E. Glaue ( re-glaue@wiu.edu ) | |--- rglaue@ccinyc.com +----------+--------+------+ I'm a Music Major, and |--- http://www.wiu.edu/users/mureg3/homepage.htm | that's my only excuse. +-------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------- Support Fine Arts Education in the USA. http://www.AMC-Music.com From tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Sat Feb 27 00:20:03 1999 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA11574; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:20:01 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:20:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpha.franken.de (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de [193.175.24.68]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/980318/990126/louis-blanc); id AAA07777; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:19:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA04134; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:16:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19990227001617.A4022@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:16:17 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 2.2.1 MIPS kernel sources plus Indy kernel binaries uploaded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Content-Length: 594 Lines: 17 After syncing my two source trees with CVS, I've exported a tarball and uploaded it to ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/linux-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz I've tested compilation for Indy and Olivetti M700 (MIPS Magnum). I also uploaded a Indy kernel (map and .config file included): ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From annuairefr@gncia.fr Sat Feb 27 08:52:10 1999 Received: from gncia.fr ([212.234.13.65]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA15927; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:52:02 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:52:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk Content-Length: 8951 Lines: 189 --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
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id OAA18464; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:14:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:14:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from by gncia.fr with SMTP; , 1 Jan 0 00:00:00 +0100 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:33 +0100 Subject: Bounced Mail Digest - 27/02/99 From: "annuairefr" To: "annuairefr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Precedence: Bulk Content-Length: 30948 Lines: 767 Bounced Mail Digest - samedi 27 fŽvrier 1999 Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by failure notice by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Returned mail: disk quota exceeded by "Mail Delivery Subsystem" Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by Undeliverable Mail by ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:46:13 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:46:13 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: failure notice From: MAILER-DAEMON@email.easynet.fr Date: 27 Feb 1999 07:44:03 -0000 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at email.easynet.fr. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 823 invoked from network); 27 Feb 1999 07:44:02 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.easynet.fr (192.168.1.2) by mailserver.easynet.fr with QMQP; 27 Feb 1999 07:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gncia.fr) (212.234.13.65) by mrelay1.easynet.fr with SMTP; 27 Feb 1999 07:44:00 -0000 Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
                                            Sincerement Votre

Marc Longo

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ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT
MARC LONGO
GNCIA MULTIMEDIA
60 rue Vitruve
75020 PARIS
01 55 25 31 00
01 55 25 31 01

marclongo@gncia.fr
webmaster@gncia.fr
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because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Returned mail: disk quota exceeded From: Mailer-Daemon@wanadoo.fr (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:43 +0100 --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Your message adressed to representation.suede@wanadoo.fr couldn't be delivered, for the following reason : write error to mailbox, disk quota exceeded ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail.local: La BAL a atteint sa saturation, recommencez plus tard mail.local: Mailbox full, please try later --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.wanadoo.fr Final-Recipient: rfc822; representation.suede@wanadoo.fr Action: failed Status: 4.2.2 --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@croton.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.73]) by smtpi14.wanadoo.fr (8.7.5/[France Telecom Interactive]) with ESMTP id IAA19242 ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from [212.234.13.65] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:40:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by wanadoo.fr id IAA13561 --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1; x-mac-type=3D"54455854"; = x-mac-creator=3D"4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut =EAtre avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la r=E9ouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par D=E9partement (cr=E9= =E9 en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est v=E9rifi=E9e et class=E9e selon vos indications, v= ous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits =E0 l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase pr=E9paratoire). Ne m=E9nagez pas vo= s commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse =E0 nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=3D"------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuit= ement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communi= quer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par D&eac= ute;partement (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre s= ite a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gnci= a.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.= gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne m&eacut= e;nagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;        Sincerement Votre

Marc Longo

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ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT
MARC LONGO
GNCIA MULTIMEDIA
60 rue Vitruve
75020 PARIS
01 55 25 31 00
01 55 25 31 01

marclongo@gncia.fr
webmaster@gncia.fr
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Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:26 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:26 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:28 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:28 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: failure notice From: MAILER-DAEMON@email.easynet.fr Date: 27 Feb 1999 07:44:03 -0000 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at email.easynet.fr. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 823 invoked from network); 27 Feb 1999 07:44:02 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.easynet.fr (192.168.1.2) by mailserver.easynet.fr with QMQP; 27 Feb 1999 07:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gncia.fr) (212.234.13.65) by mrelay1.easynet.fr with SMTP; 27 Feb 1999 07:44:00 -0000 Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
                                            Sincerement Votre

Marc Longo

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT
MARC LONGO
GNCIA MULTIMEDIA
60 rue Vitruve
75020 PARIS
01 55 25 31 00
01 55 25 31 01

marclongo@gncia.fr
webmaster@gncia.fr
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"annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:07 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:07 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:07 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Undeliverable Mail From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:47:07 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Returned mail: disk quota exceeded From: Mailer-Daemon@wanadoo.fr (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:43 +0100 --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Your message adressed to representation.suede@wanadoo.fr couldn't be delivered, for the following reason : write error to mailbox, disk quota exceeded ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail.local: La BAL a atteint sa saturation, recommencez plus tard mail.local: Mailbox full, please try later --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.wanadoo.fr Final-Recipient: rfc822; representation.suede@wanadoo.fr Action: failed Status: 4.2.2 --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@croton.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.73]) by smtpi14.wanadoo.fr (8.7.5/[France Telecom Interactive]) with ESMTP id IAA19242 ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from [212.234.13.65] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:40:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by wanadoo.fr id IAA13561 --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1; x-mac-type=3D"54455854"; = x-mac-creator=3D"4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut =EAtre avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la r=E9ouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par D=E9partement (cr=E9= =E9 en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est v=E9rifi=E9e et class=E9e selon vos indications, v= ous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits =E0 l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase pr=E9paratoire). Ne m=E9nagez pas vo= s commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse =E0 nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=3D"------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuit= ement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communi= quer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par D&eac= ute;partement (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre s= ite a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gnci= a.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.= gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne m&eacut= e;nagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;        Sincerement Votre

Marc Longo

----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------

ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT
MARC LONGO
GNCIA MULTIMEDIA
60 rue Vitruve
75020 PARIS
01 55 25 31 00
01 55 25 31 01

marclongo@gncia.fr
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: failure notice From: MAILER-DAEMON@email.easynet.fr Date: 27 Feb 1999 07:44:03 -0000 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at email.easynet.fr. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 823 invoked from network); 27 Feb 1999 07:44:02 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.easynet.fr (192.168.1.2) by mailserver.easynet.fr with QMQP; 27 Feb 1999 07:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gncia.fr) (212.234.13.65) by mrelay1.easynet.fr with SMTP; 27 Feb 1999 07:44:00 -0000 Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par Département (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne ménagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
                                            Sincerement Votre

Marc Longo

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ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT
MARC LONGO
GNCIA MULTIMEDIA
60 rue Vitruve
75020 PARIS
01 55 25 31 00
01 55 25 31 01

marclongo@gncia.fr
webmaster@gncia.fr
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because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Returned mail: disk quota exceeded From: Mailer-Daemon@wanadoo.fr (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:43 +0100 --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Your message adressed to representation.suede@wanadoo.fr couldn't be delivered, for the following reason : write error to mailbox, disk quota exceeded ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail.local: La BAL a atteint sa saturation, recommencez plus tard mail.local: Mailbox full, please try later --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.wanadoo.fr Final-Recipient: rfc822; representation.suede@wanadoo.fr Action: failed Status: 4.2.2 --199902270841.17493/bruyere.wanadoo.fr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@croton.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.73]) by smtpi14.wanadoo.fr (8.7.5/[France Telecom Interactive]) with ESMTP id IAA19242 ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from [212.234.13.65] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:40:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from gncia.fr by gncia.fr with SMTP; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36D7A295.D5235CDB@gncia.fr> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:45:25 +0100 From: annuairefr Reply-To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Organization: GNCIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: annuairefr@gncia.fr Subject: OUVERTURE DE L'ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB" Sender: Precedence: Bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by wanadoo.fr id IAA13561 --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1; x-mac-type=3D"54455854"; = x-mac-creator=3D"4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuitement le trafic de son site, il faut =EAtre avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!! Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communiquer la r=E9ouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par D=E9partement (cr=E9= =E9 en 1996). Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre site a l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions Liberales, Associations ... (a l'exclusion des particuliers). Chaque inscription est v=E9rifi=E9e et class=E9e selon vos indications, v= ous pouvez voir les derniers inscrits =E0 l'adresse suivante : http://www.gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci de votre indulgence dans cette phase pr=E9paratoire). Ne m=E9nagez pas vo= s commentaires, faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ... Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse =E0 nouveau vous apporter le meilleur retour Vous remerciant par avance Sincerement Votre Marc Longo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT MARC LONGO GNCIA MULTIMEDIA 60 rue Vitruve 75020 PARIS 01 55 25 31 00 01 55 25 31 01 [Image] marclongo@gncia.fr webmaster@gncia.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- --------------D52142B81685F41D4D5DF2FB Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=3D"------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674" --------------2B381A89A8707C8B78D77674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour,

C'est bien connu, pour augmenter gratuit= ement le trafic de son site, il faut
être avant tout en bonne place dans les annuaires !!!

Avec quelques semaines d'avance, nous avons le plaisir de vous communi= quer
la réouverture de L'Annuaire Internet Francais par D&eac= ute;partement (créé en 1996).

Vous pouvez indexer gratuitement votre s= ite a l'adresse suivante :
http://www.gnci= a.fr/rofmfr/ProfessAj.html

Peuvent s'inscrire les Entreprises, Artisans, Commercants, Professions
Liberales, Associations ...
(a l'exclusion des particuliers).

Chaque inscription est vérifiée et classée selon vos indications, vous pouvez
voir les derniers inscrits à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.= gncia.fr/rofmfr/ProfessTrouve.html

A compter du 15 Mars prochain vous pourrez voir la nouvelle charte
graphique de l'annuaire et le 30 Mars, l'ouverture Officielle ...(en attendant, merci
de votre indulgence dans cette phase préparatoire). Ne m&eacut= e;nagez pas vos commentaires,
faites-nous part de vos remarques sans crainte et sans retenue ...
 

Nous souhaitons que tres rapidement, notre annuaire puisse à nouveau
vous apporter le meilleur retour

Vous remerciant par avance
           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;        Sincerement Votre

Marc Longo

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ANNUAIRE FRANCAIS PAR DEPARTEMENT
MARC LONGO
GNCIA MULTIMEDIA
60 rue Vitruve
75020 PARIS
01 55 25 31 00
01 55 25 31 01

marclongo@gncia.fr
webmaster@gncia.fr
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1999 08:47:28 +0100 A message could not be sent to of list "annuairefr" because the receiving server rejected this address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Bounced Mail Digest From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Sat Feb 27 17:53:26 1999 Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (praia.bofh.de [195.78.185.18]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA19923; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:53:22 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:53:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03385; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:53:01 +0100 Message-ID: <19990227175300.B539@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:53:00 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Russell E Glaue , linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel support for R4600 MIPS References: <19990222232723.A502@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Russell E Glaue on Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 11:22:16PM -0600 Content-Length: 706 Lines: 18 On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 11:22:16PM -0600, Russell E Glaue wrote: > Okay, I know that the R4600 (Deskstation Tyne) is supported in the Linux > Kernel. I saw it in there while browsing around the MIPS ported code of > the latest Linux kernel. I also know that Linux was once successfully > compiled for this processor in the 2.0.2x series. > > Does anyone know if I will be able to successfully cross-compile a working > Linux kernel for the MIPS R4600 processor with the latest Linux source > code? I understand that support is not kept up, but is the existing code > still in a compilable state? The R4600 is supported, just not the Tyne machine which the processor is in ... Hackers wanted. Ralf From imp@harmony.village.org Sat Feb 27 18:44:52 1999 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA20627; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:44:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:44:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA20981; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:44:37 GMT Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA47053; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:45:02 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902271745.KAA47053@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Kernel support for R4600 MIPS Cc: Russell E Glaue , linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:53:00 +0100." <19990227175300.B539@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19990227175300.B539@uni-koblenz.de> <19990222232723.A502@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:45:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 304 Lines: 10 In message <19990227175300.B539@uni-koblenz.de> ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: : The R4600 is supported, just not the Tyne machine which the processor is : in ... : : Hackers wanted. If someone were to ship me a Tyne, I'd fix the support for it in Linux. And fix the rPC44 while I was at it. :-) Warner