From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Sun Feb 1 18:56:24 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA15129; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:56:22 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:56:22 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-22.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.22]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05484 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:56:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA23149; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:04:56 +0100 Message-ID: <19980201130455.44901@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:04:55 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: More DECstation News ... References: <199801312129.WAA19444@jordan.numerik> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801312129.WAA19444@jordan.numerik>; from Michael Engel on Sat, Jan 31, 1998 at 10:29:22PM +0100 Content-Length: 693 Lines: 16 > While we're on the subject ... IIRC, Ralf mentioned that the Linux/MIPS > web pages are also not up to of date in a posting in comp.sys.mips. > I could take the position of maintaining the Linux/MIPS website, too, so we > have all the information together in one or two (including the SGI port) > places again ... You should contact the maintainers of lena.fnet.fr for an account. Sorry, don't have the address at hand. Luc? Stoned? > I think I might also take the challenge of getting the LANCE to work. Where > are the most recent patches, Harald ? ;-) The Lance should be very easy to do. Take a look at the modifications I did for the PCnet32, a PCI version of the Lance. Ralf From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Sun Feb 1 18:55:56 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA15053; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:55:53 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:55:53 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-22.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.22]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05471 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:55:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA24049; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:52:15 +0100 Message-ID: <19980201135214.39653@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:52:14 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation news References: <199801311928.OAA05151@ren.globecomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801311928.OAA05151@ren.globecomm.net>; from Adam Fritzler on Sat, Jan 31, 1998 at 12:30:20PM -0700 Content-Length: 577 Lines: 15 On Sat, Jan 31, 1998 at 12:30:20PM -0700, Adam Fritzler wrote: > >VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00 > >Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 > > Sounds like Lance would be the most logical next step (NFS root). Not that > I'm volunteering (no time)... I'd recommend to make the box booting from a ramdisk first. If that is working to full satisfaction you can go ahead and work on the device drivers. If you're working on device drivers and the memory managment stuff for netbooting at the same time you'll have much more trouble debugging things. Ralf From harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Sun Feb 1 18:20:11 1998 Received: from ns2.netcologne.de (ns2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA14866; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:20:01 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:20:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.netcologne.de (max1-45.netcologne.de [194.8.196.45]) by ns2.netcologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22135 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:18:50 GMT X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 18:19:58 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.netcologne.de From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: latest DECstation patches Content-Length: 490 Lines: 17 Hello all, although the code is still a mess you might want to download the latest DECstation patches from: http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha I'm sorry but I do have only 1MB webspace available, so you have patch the sources yourself. This is against Pauls linux-2.1.14.2.dec kernel. Oh, before I forget, there is still a lot of work to be done in dec_irq_setup and friends. This code will only work on kmins, maxines and maybe on 3max+. Happy hacking. --- regards, Harald From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Sun Feb 1 21:11:15 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA15866; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:11:13 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:11:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id VAA10537 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:11:09 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA20270; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:11:07 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802012011.VAA20270@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: latest DECstation patches To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:11:06 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Harald Koerfgen" at Feb 1, 98 06:19:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 784 Lines: 23 Hi, > although the code is still a mess you might want to download the latest > DECstation patches from: > > http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha Fine, patches applied cleanly and compiled out of the box ! > I'm sorry but I do have only 1MB webspace available, so you have patch the > sources yourself. This is against Pauls linux-2.1.14.2.dec kernel. The patch, a patched 2.1.14 source tree and a binary of the patched kernel are now available at http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/linux-2.1.14-010298.dec.tar.gz (source) http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/patch-2.1.14.2.dec.2 (patch) http://decstation.unix-ag.org/kernels/vmlinux-2.1.14-010298.gz (binary) Please note that I didn't test the binary yet. regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From paul@softway.com.au Mon Feb 2 05:28:58 1998 Received: from sweeney.sw.oz.au (firewall-user@gw.softway.com.au [203.31.96.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA24656; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 05:28:44 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 05:28:44 +0100 (MET) Received: by sweeney.sw.oz.au id PAA09985; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:23:38 +1100 (EST) (from paul@softway.com.au for ) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au(192.41.203.48) by sweeney.sw.oz.au via smap (3.2) id xma009978; Mon, 2 Feb 98 15:23:34 +1100 Received: (from paul@localhost) by suede.sw.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19507 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:23:33 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Antoine Message-Id: <199802020423.PAA19507@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: DECstation news To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:23:31 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1624 Lines: 41 Harald wrote: > here are the latest DECstations news: > > [some boot messages snipped] > Loading R[23]00 MMU routines. > Please write the time init code for the DECStation! > init/main.c: skipping console_init! > Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 32.90 BogoMIPS > Memory: 47316k/49148k available (756k kernel code, 884k data) > Swansea University Computer Society NET3.037 for Linux 2.1 > NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.14 for Linux NET3.037. > Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.037 > IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. > Linux version 2.1.14 (harry@franz) (gcc version 2.7.2) #7 Sat Jan 31 19:37:31 > MET 1998 > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX > fs/filesystems.c: skipping device_setup() > VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00 > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 > > Looks like device driver hacking time, any volunteers? Congratulations! I'm very glad someone has had some time to work on the MMU code. I would suggest getting either the floppy or ethernet driver working, as both of them will be modifications of the SPARC/Intel code (chips are the same, but DMA method is different due to DECstation hardware). Another alternative would be a RAMDISK image loaded via the boot prom tftp call... Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 From BlazeCal@aol.com Mon Feb 2 08:10:20 1998 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.176]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA25804; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:10:18 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:10:18 +0100 (MET) From: BlazeCal@aol.com Received: from BlazeCal@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv12/Dec1997) id BWHDa22846 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 02:10:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6865d25f.34d57150@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 02:10:06 EST To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: MIPS R3000 boxes Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Content-Length: 919 Lines: 16 Just viewing your web site re: Linux. I know of an animation school in Los Angeles that was donated seven or eight R3000 boxes and they're not sure what to do with them. It's the Abram Friedman Occupational Center animation program and the head guy is named Eric Huelsman. I think he might be interested in information re: Linux for teaching/development at his school. I'm using a guest account, so I don't have his e-mal handy. I'll have him contact you. FYI: I used to work for the Silicon Studio/Los Angeles Training Center (SGI entertainment industry software training) in Santa Monica as their government/education liaison. I'm now working as an independent digital education consultant (whatever THAT is). I'll be at the LA/Orange County Regional Multimedia Facutly meeting this coming Thursday -- are you interested in hearing from educators on the use/development of Linux in their classrooms? Thanks. From tkelly@fau.edu Mon Feb 2 19:05:04 1998 Received: from fau.edu (fau.edu [131.91.131.16]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA29442; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:04:54 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:04:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from se150a.cse.fau.edu (se150a.cse.fau.edu [131.91.81.4]) by fau.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8FAU) with SMTP id NAA10328 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:10:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980202130552.00b50274@pop.fau.edu> X-Sender: tkelly@pop.fau.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 13:05:52 -0500 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr From: "Thomas J. Kelly" Subject: DEC Statoin 5000/200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 396 Lines: 11 I have a pair of DEC Station 5000/200's that were retired out of another lab that I would/could make use of. Look for a LINUX port for them. Any hope?? Thanks Tom. Thomas J. Kelly Engineer, College of Engineering Phone (561)-297-3489 Florida Atlantic University Fax (561)-297-2659 Robotics Center 777 Glades Road, SE43 Boca Raton, FL 33431 http://www.fau.edu/divdept/engineer/homepage.htm From paul@softway.com.au Tue Feb 3 01:44:19 1998 Received: from sweeney.sw.oz.au (firewall-user@gw.softway.com.au [203.31.96.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA02827; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 01:44:04 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 01:44:04 +0100 (MET) Received: by sweeney.sw.oz.au id LAA25100; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:43:54 +1100 (EST) (from paul@softway.com.au for ) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au(192.41.203.48) by sweeney.sw.oz.au via smap (3.2) id xma025098; Tue, 3 Feb 98 11:43:47 +1100 Received: (from paul@localhost) by suede.sw.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09936; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:42:09 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Antoine Message-Id: <199802030042.LAA09936@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: problem with the linux-mips webpage To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:42:08 +1100 (EST) Cc: deviant@datastacks.com, elipot@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199801151720.RAA10925@orenoque.fnet.fr> from "Emmanuel Dupont" at Jan 15, 98 06:20:48 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 775 Lines: 19 Hi Emmanuel, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, but your message was buried in my holiday email box! > I have been known that you had problem with the Linux/DECStation > webpage. Fnet.fr can give you a place for it. We already host the > linux-mips site (web, ftp and mailing-list). That would be very good. What do I need to do? I would suggest a directory on our FTP server that you could mirror for me?? Thanks in advance! Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 From jpark@netscape.com Tue Feb 3 05:52:48 1998 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA04574; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 05:52:46 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 05:52:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06033 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([207.1.136.43]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA14841 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:52:08 -0800 Message-ID: <34D6A38D.E445021E@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 20:56:46 -0800 From: jpark@netscape.com (Jerome Park) Organization: Netscape Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: NEC/MIPS/Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 272 Lines: 14 Hi, I have a NEC RISCStation 2200 that uses a 200mhz RISC processor. Is there anything I can do to help in supporting this platform? Perhaps I can port/compile/run some diagnostics for it? Anyway, let me know if I can help... Regards, Jerome Jerome Park From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Tue Feb 3 12:28:27 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de ([141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA07223; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:28:20 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:28:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id MAA12062 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:28:10 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA24801; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:28:07 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802031128.MAA24801@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: problem with the linux-mips webpage To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:28:07 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199802030042.LAA09936@suede.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Feb 3, 98 11:42:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 889 Lines: 24 Hi Emmanuel, Paul and all you others ... > Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, but your message was > buried in my holiday email box! > > > I have been known that you had problem with the Linux/DECStation > > webpage. Fnet.fr can give you a place for it. We already host the > > linux-mips site (web, ftp and mailing-list). > > That would be very good. What do I need to do? I would suggest a > directory on our FTP server that you could mirror for me?? Perhaps the message didn't get through to you ... I did some work to set up a Decstation Linux dedicated website on http://decstation.unix-ag.org with all of Paul's old information and some new things (Harald's most recent patch, some AccessBus information ...) ... We have lots ;-) of www/ftp space available and a sufficiently fast net connection (20 MBit). regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From agrier@poofy.goof.com Tue Feb 3 20:09:47 1998 Received: from amon.reed.edu (uucp@amon.reed.edu [134.10.2.10]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA10656; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:09:44 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:09:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by amon.reed.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA18357 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (agrier@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metro.poofy.goof.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14909 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:09:53 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:09:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Aaron J. Grier" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: 2100 boot results w/ 2.1.14.test4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1060 Lines: 32 Found a PMAX/MIPS compatible boot PROM! [SNIP] Linux version 2.1.14 (paul@slither) (gcc version 2.6.3) #329 Sun May 18 17:17:03 EST 1997 Excptn: Excptn pc: 0x0 Creg: 0x2008 Sreg: 0x30080000 Vaddr: 0x0 Sp: 0xffffff48 0xfffff48: Excptn: Excptn pc: 0x0 Creg: 0x2008 Sreg: 0x30080000 Vaddr: 0x00 Sp: 0xa000fbe0 0xa000fbe0 : 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000004 0xa000fbec 0xa000fbf0 : 0xffffff48 0x00000001 0x00000019 0xbfc09080 0xa000fc10 : 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xbfc0905c 0xa000fc20 : 0x00000000 0xa000fbe0 0x00000000 0xafc35750 0xa000fc30 : 0x00000000 0xbfc08f3c 0x00000000 0x00000000 This is on a 2100 with 12MB of RAM, KN01 V7.02. Comes up with the same result every time. Hope this helps... ---- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@poofy.goof.com agrier@reed.edu | agrier@metro.grumblesmurf.net | ...!reed!vla!agrier DECBEE65 0DEE3A0C 1ED7F54D 9E023CC4 and 0x0663D1A9 at a server near you. From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Tue Feb 3 20:18:20 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA10744; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:18:18 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:18:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id UAA12563 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:18:13 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA25778; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:18:11 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802031918.UAA25778@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: 2100 boot results w/ 2.1.14.test4 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:18:11 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Aaron J. Grier" at Feb 3, 98 11:09:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 380 Lines: 16 Hi, > Found a PMAX/MIPS compatible boot PROM! > [SNIP] > Linux version 2.1.14 (paul@slither) (gcc version 2.6.3) #329 Sun May 18 17:17:03 EST 1997 > > Excptn: > Excptn pc: 0x0 [...] Same result here on my 2100... as expected. The 2100 freaks out during the memory sizing when unavailable memory is accessed. regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From paul@softway.com.au Tue Feb 3 22:40:33 1998 Received: from sweeney.sw.oz.au (firewall-user@[203.31.96.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA12104; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:40:29 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:40:29 +0100 (MET) Received: by sweeney.sw.oz.au id IAA09569; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:39:43 +1100 (EST) (from paul@softway.com.au for ) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au(192.41.203.48) by sweeney.sw.oz.au via smap (3.2) id xma009567; Wed, 4 Feb 98 08:39:42 +1100 Received: (from paul@localhost) by suede.sw.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03847 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:39:41 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Antoine Message-Id: <199802032139.IAA03847@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: problem with the linux-mips webpage To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:39:40 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199802031128.MAA24801@jordan.numerik> from "Michael Engel" at Feb 3, 98 12:28:07 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1276 Lines: 40 Hi folks, Michael Engel wrote: > Hi Emmanuel, Paul and all you others ... > > Perhaps the message didn't get through to you ... I did some work to > set up a Decstation Linux dedicated website on > > http://decstation.unix-ag.org > > with all of Paul's old information and some new things (Harald's most recent > patch, some AccessBus information ...) ... It all looks really good in the new format! It would be nice if your copyright notice at the bottom of the page acknowledged my original source (only where it's used). > We have lots ;-) of www/ftp space available and a sufficiently fast net > connection (20 MBit). Cool! Are you happy to continue to keep the web pages up to date? Sounds like we're going to have some good progress over the next few months, if Harald keeps this up! ...one day I'll get some free time to do some more hacking... :-) Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 From skaya@mygale.org Tue Feb 3 23:24:21 1998 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA12357; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:24:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:24:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from bluesteel.nata.fr (root@ligne18.ac-idf.jussieu.fr [134.157.130.33]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.2.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA16902 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:24:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from bluesteel.nata.fr (fender.nata.fr [192.168.9.2]) by bluesteel.nata.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA15363 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:25:23 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 23:25:23 GMT Message-Id: <199802032325.XAA15363@bluesteel.nata.fr> From: Jerome PETAZZONI To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: help for a newbie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.08 Content-Length: 537 Lines: 10 What are the various things to do in order to run Linux/MIPS on a DECStation 5000/120? It looks like it doesn't work yet, but I don't understant exactly what is done, and what is yet to be done. I have access to a DecStation 5000/120 with Ultrix installed and a spare 600 megs disk, connected via ethernet to a intel linux box ready to tftp/bootp/crosscompile... I've built gcc for ultrix and a few other things. but what next? Paul Antoine said me to compile a kernel ; which sources should I use? Thanks by advance skaya@mygale.org From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Wed Feb 4 10:08:05 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA17411; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:08:01 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:08:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id KAA12983 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:07:54 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA26321; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:07:54 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802040907.KAA26321@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: problem with the linux-mips webpage To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:07:54 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199802032139.IAA03847@suede.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Feb 4, 98 08:39:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1428 Lines: 44 Hi, Paul wrote: > It all looks really good in the new format! Thanks ... > It would be nice if your > copyright notice at the bottom of the page acknowledged my original > source (only where it's used). I think of this copyright only as preliminary, perhaps we should arrange s.th. like "Copyright by the DECstation Linux porting project" or similar ... I don't really _have_ to own the copyright on these pages ... Any ideas ? > > We have lots ;-) of www/ftp space available and a sufficiently fast net > > connection (20 MBit). > > Cool! Are you happy to continue to keep the web pages up to date? Yep, I am ! > Sounds like we're going to have some good progress over the next few > months, if Harald keeps this up! More good things to come ... Harald and I have started working on a Turbo Channel probing routine; I started with the Lance driver last night and am trying to get the kernel running on the DS5000/200 and 2100/3100. > > > ...one day I'll get some free time to do some more hacking... > > Well, I'm in the lucky situation of having some DECstations at home and (finally) one 5000/200 dedicated for Linux hacking at university ... so I can spend most of my spare time on hacking. Now, if I only had more spare time instead of having to install a Windows NT PeeCee :-(. regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From frist@lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de Wed Feb 4 10:47:26 1998 Received: from lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (lehr.chem.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.66.25]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA18019; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:47:24 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:47:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from frist@localhost) by lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA31060; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:46:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:46:23 +0100 (MET) From: Frieder Streffer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 2100 boot results w/ 2.1.14.test4 In-Reply-To: <199802031918.UAA25778@jordan.numerik> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 830 Lines: 31 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Michael Engel wrote: > > Hi, > > > Found a PMAX/MIPS compatible boot PROM! > > [SNIP] > > Linux version 2.1.14 (paul@slither) (gcc version 2.6.3) #329 Sun May 18 17:17:03 EST 1997 > > > > Excptn: > > Excptn pc: 0x0 > [...] > > Same result here on my 2100... as expected. The 2100 freaks out during the > memory sizing when unavailable memory is accessed. > > regards, > Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) > Hi All, there were some Problem problems in the SAVE_ALL and RESTORE_ALL macros, but they are solved an the kernel boots as far as for the other DECstation "Unfortunately" I'm in Englend at present, so I can send a patch not befor next week. The patch will also include a rudimentary console driver, so console_init has not to be skipped any longer regards Frieder From paul@softway.com.au Wed Feb 4 12:38:21 1998 Received: from sweeney.sw.oz.au (firewall-user@gw.softway.com.au [203.31.96.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA18949; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:38:13 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:38:13 +0100 (MET) Received: by sweeney.sw.oz.au id WAA21939; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:37:57 +1100 (EST) (from paul@softway.com.au for ) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au(192.41.203.48) by sweeney.sw.oz.au via smap (3.2) id xma021934; Wed, 4 Feb 98 22:37:38 +1100 Received: (from paul@localhost) by suede.sw.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03152 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:37:37 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Antoine Message-Id: <199802041137.WAA03152@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: problem with the linux-mips webpage To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:37:36 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199802040907.KAA26321@jordan.numerik> from "Michael Engel" at Feb 4, 98 10:07:54 am Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1621 Lines: 41 Hi, Michael wrote: > I think of this copyright only as preliminary, perhaps we should arrange > s.th. like "Copyright by the DECstation Linux porting project" or similar ... > I don't really _have_ to own the copyright on these pages ... Any ideas ? Good idea... like you, I don't need to own the copyright either. Perhaps we just need to acknowledge everybody that contributes. > > Sounds like we're going to have some good progress over the next few > > months, if Harald keeps this up! > > More good things to come ... Harald and I have started working on a Turbo > Channel probing routine; I started with the Lance driver last night and > am trying to get the kernel running on the DS5000/200 and 2100/3100. Sounds great. > Well, I'm in the lucky situation of having some DECstations at home and Oh I have one at home - it's just that with both a partner and a new house to playt with, I don't find much time to do any hacking. > (finally) one 5000/200 dedicated for Linux hacking at university ... ...and the day I have time to hack at work is an amazing day indeed...!! > so I can spend most of my spare time on hacking. Now, if I only had more > spare time instead of having to install a Windows NT PeeCee :-(. Man's gotta do, what a man's gotta do, eh? Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 From 95crap@email.msn.com Fri Jan 22 08:36:46 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.31]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA22580; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:36:45 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:36:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from default - 208.252.31.243 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:36:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000101bd3189$35e01380$f31ffcd0@default> From: "95crap" <95crap@email.msn.com> To: Subject: got a mips box Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:23:20 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Length: 334 Lines: 7 Hey I have one of those antiquated about a dual 275MHZ NEC 2200 RISC box and would like to try to load LINUX on it but I'm Not sure just what to do or how to load it. I presently have WSG linux pro 4.0 and the red hat 5.0 and also Walnut creeks Yassagdril {spelling is defintly not there}. I am Gene find me at 95CRAP@MSN.COM From harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Sat Feb 7 17:24:46 1998 Received: from ns2.netcologne.de (ns2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA17598; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:24:40 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:24:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.netcologne.de (max3-148.netcologne.de [194.8.196.148]) by ns2.netcologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA06073 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 16:22:44 GMT X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 17:23:58 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.netcologne.de From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: yet another DECstation kernel Content-Length: 473 Lines: 15 Fellow DECstation hackers, I have totally reworked the dec_irq_setup and int-handler.S and (hopefully) the periodic interrupts should now work on all DECstations. As usual a patch against Pauls linux-2.14.2.dec source tree can be downloaded from: http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha I could test this only on a 5000/133 and a 5000/240, so please give it a try and send the results (and patches, if any) either to me or to the list. Enjoy! --- regards, Harald From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Sun Feb 8 13:36:38 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA26186; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:36:34 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:36:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id NAA02097 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:36:20 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00682; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:36:20 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:36:19 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Harald Koerfgen" at Feb 7, 98 05:23:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 485 Lines: 14 > Fellow DECstation hackers, > > I have totally reworked the dec_irq_setup and int-handler.S and (hopefully) the > periodic interrupts should now work on all DECstations. As usual a patch > against Pauls linux-2.14.2.dec source tree can be downloaded from: > > http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha ... the patch, a patched kernel source tree and a binary image are now also available on http://decstation.unix-ag.org regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Sun Feb 8 14:18:04 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA27686; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:18:02 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:18:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id OAA02127 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:17:55 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA00724; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:17:55 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802081317.OAA00724@jordan.numerik> Subject: Success on 5000/200 !!! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:17:55 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 141 Lines: 7 Congratulations Harald, with your new patch the kernel also works on the 5000/200 ! regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From deviant@unixnet.org Sun Feb 8 16:04:53 1998 Received: from www.datastacks.com (user-38ld8bg.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.161.112]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA29961; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:04:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:04:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 25567 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 1998 15:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO milliways.datastacks.com) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 8 Feb 1998 15:04:48 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:04:48 +0000 ( ) From: Peter X-Sender: deviant@milliways.datastacks.com To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel In-Reply-To: <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> Message-ID: X-PGP-Key-1: pub 1024 0xDE8A70A3 1998-01-18 ---------- DSS Sign & Encrypt X-PGP-Key-2: f20 Fingerprint20 = 0748 AE7C 26C8 314D 7FF8 6810 D573 11F6 DE8A 70A3 X-PGP-Key-3: sub 4096 0x6936675E 1998-01-18 ---------- Diffie-Hellman X-PGP-Key-4: f20 Fingerprint20 = F9E4 268E BBDA 9072 5342 4477 841B 8504 6936 675E X-PGP-Key-5: uid deviant X-PGP-Key-6: sig 0xDE8A70A3 1998-01-18 deviant Approved: not really. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 288 Lines: 9 I'm trying to get the cross-development tools working on my i486 to compile for my DECStation 5000/25, and I think i've got the right binutils and gcc (mipsel-, right?), but where are the include files? -- Peter "Traveling through hyperspace isn't like dusting crops, boy." -- Solo From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Sun Feb 8 17:01:19 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA02621; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:01:17 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:01:17 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.26]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11293 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:01:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA01119; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:58:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19980208165819.59553@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:58:19 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Peter on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 03:04:48PM +0000 Content-Length: 407 Lines: 10 On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 03:04:48PM +0000, Peter wrote: > I'm trying to get the cross-development tools working on my i486 to > compile for my DECStation 5000/25, and I think i've got the right binutils > and gcc (mipsel-, right?), but where are the include files? They're part of the libc package. Since people usually only crosscompile kernels but not userland there is no need to install them. Ralf From deviant@unixnet.org Sun Feb 8 19:49:35 1998 Received: from www.datastacks.com (user-38ld9ai.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.165.82]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA05319; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:49:30 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:49:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 25854 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 1998 18:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO milliways.datastacks.com) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 8 Feb 1998 18:49:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:49:39 +0000 ( ) From: Peter X-Sender: deviant@milliways.datastacks.com To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel In-Reply-To: <19980208165819.59553@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: X-PGP-Key-1: pub 1024 0xDE8A70A3 1998-01-18 ---------- DSS Sign & Encrypt X-PGP-Key-2: f20 Fingerprint20 = 0748 AE7C 26C8 314D 7FF8 6810 D573 11F6 DE8A 70A3 X-PGP-Key-3: sub 4096 0x6936675E 1998-01-18 ---------- Diffie-Hellman X-PGP-Key-4: f20 Fingerprint20 = F9E4 268E BBDA 9072 5342 4477 841B 8504 6936 675E X-PGP-Key-5: uid deviant X-PGP-Key-6: sig 0xDE8A70A3 1998-01-18 deviant Approved: not really. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2467 Lines: 61 On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 03:04:48PM +0000, Peter wrote: > > > I'm trying to get the cross-development tools working on my i486 to > > compile for my DECStation 5000/25, and I think i've got the right binutils > > and gcc (mipsel-, right?), but where are the include files? > > They're part of the libc package. Since people usually only crosscompile > kernels but not userland there is no need to install them. > > Ralf Hrmm.. makes sense, but it sure looks like it wants stdio.h to compile the kernel... make[1]: Entering directory `/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/arch/mips/dec' mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c boot.S -o boot.o mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c int-handler.S -o int-handler.o mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o decstation.o decstation.c decstation.c: In function `dec_setup': decstation.c:136: warning: statement with no effect decstation.c:229: warning: implicit declaration of function `register_console' decstation.c: In function `pmax_get_memory_size': decstation.c:390: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_memory' discards `volatile' from pointer target type mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o hw-access.o hw-access.c mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o setup.o setup.c mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o bitags.o bitags.c bitags.c:11: stdio.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [bitags.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/arch/mips/dec' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 slartibartfast:/usr/home/mips/linux-2.1.14.2# -- Peter The Shuttle is now going five times the sound of speed. -- Dan Rather, first landing of Columbia From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Sun Feb 8 22:32:51 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA01044; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:32:48 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:32:48 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.10]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23921 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:32:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA01555; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:26:41 +0100 Message-ID: <19980208222640.43252@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:26:40 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <19980208165819.59553@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Peter on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 06:49:39PM +0000 Content-Length: 2207 Lines: 54 On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 06:49:39PM +0000, Peter wrote: > Hrmm.. makes sense, but it sure looks like it wants stdio.h to compile the > kernel... No kernel code should ever include kernel header files. Ralf > make[1]: Entering directory > `/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/arch/mips/dec' > mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c boot.S -o > boot.o > mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c > int-handler.S -o int-handler.o > mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o > decstation.o decstation.c > decstation.c: In function `dec_setup': > decstation.c:136: warning: statement with no effect > decstation.c:229: warning: implicit declaration of function > `register_console' > decstation.c: In function `pmax_get_memory_size': > decstation.c:390: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_memory' discards > `volatile' from pointer target type > mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o > hw-access.o hw-access.c > mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o setup.o > setup.c > mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mips1 -c -o > bitags.o bitags.c > bitags.c:11: stdio.h: No such file or directory > make[1]: *** [bitags.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/home/decstation/linux-2.1.14.2.dec/arch/mips/dec' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > slartibartfast:/usr/home/mips/linux-2.1.14.2# > > > -- Peter > > The Shuttle is now going five times the sound of speed. > -- Dan Rather, first landing of Columbia From stuarta@foxln.com.au Sun Feb 8 22:57:52 1998 Received: from lnagate.foxln.com.au (lnagate.foxboro.com.au [202.12.113.254]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA02111; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:57:42 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:57:42 +0100 (MET) X-Received: (qmail 7879 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1998 21:56:58 -0000 Received: from netgate.foxboro.com.au (HELO netgate.foxln.com.au) (qmailr@202.12.114.239) by gatekeeper.foxboro.com.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 1998 21:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 7916 invoked by uid 320); 8 Feb 1998 21:56:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19980209085658.31890@foxln.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:56:58 +1100 From: Stuart Auchterlonie To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <19980208165819.59553@uni-koblenz.de> <19980208222640.43252@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <19980208222640.43252@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:26:40PM +0100 Content-Length: 833 Lines: 34 Hello, I've been testing out these kernels as they pop out and I must say it's good to see something happening again. Now onto the problem I have. Testing is on a Personal 5000/20 btw. With Paul's 2.1.14 (from whenever he last released it) when the system boot goes through the console detection phase I get. -Registering Console. -Got the following for the osconsole env variable: 3,3 and the system merrily continues on till it runs out of things that have been written. With the lastest test kernel (and the previous one) I get -Got the following for the console env. variable: 1 And then complains it doesn't know what it should talk to and I see no further messages. So what got changed in the console detection between paul's latest and the most recent version ??? Stuart Auchterlonie stuarta@foxln.com.au From frob@pobox.com Mon Feb 9 01:04:14 1998 Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA01577; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:04:12 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:04:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from FROB (user-38ld9n9.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.166.233]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01479 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by FROB with Microsoft Mail id <01BD34C4.84D8FF90@FROB>; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:05:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD34C4.84D8FF90@FROB> From: Jeremy Smith To: "'linux-mips@fnet.fr'" Subject: Can I help? Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:05:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 989 Lines: 23 I have a DECStation 5000/240 w/ a PMAG-D graphics board (3D no Z-Buffer = - i860 co-processor on board). I'm looking into upgrading it to a = 5000/260 if I ever do anything with it. Right now the only OS I can find = for it other than Ultrix ( -- spew -- ) is BSD (several flavors). I = would be terribly interested in helping out in the testing of Linux for = this box. At this point it has become a paper weight. I am not a skilled = coder at all but I'm a very experienced beta tester of operating systems = and I work with coders everyday so I can speak the language. I guess = what I am saying is that if you need someone to test I'm your man. Let = me know if there's anything I can do. I appreciate any opportunity to = contribute. Thanks, J Jeremy Smith Home: (919)859-5690 System Administrator Work: (919)767-6530 Bell+Howell MPS, Durham, North Carolina "Egotism is the anesthetic given to relieve the pain of being a damned = fool" =09 From stuarta@foxln.com.au Mon Feb 9 07:17:32 1998 Received: from lnagate.foxln.com.au (lnagate.foxboro.com.au [202.12.113.254]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA00223; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 07:17:28 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 07:17:28 +0100 (MET) X-Received: (qmail 12950 invoked from network); 9 Feb 1998 05:57:10 -0000 Received: from netgate.foxboro.com.au (HELO netgate.foxln.com.au) (qmailr@202.12.114.239) by gatekeeper.foxboro.com.au with SMTP; 9 Feb 1998 05:57:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8854 invoked by uid 320); 9 Feb 1998 05:57:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19980209165709.14978@foxln.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:57:09 +1100 From: Stuart Auchterlonie To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Cross Development Tools. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e Content-Length: 227 Lines: 12 What are the recommended versions of the xdev tools to use ?? Any special patches required ?? I'm planning to build the xdev tools for an ultra, so I'm building from source. Stuart Auchterlonie stuarta@foxboro.com.au From hkoerfg1@ford.com Mon Feb 9 09:43:25 1998 Received: from mailfw2.ford.com (mailfw2.ford.com [136.1.1.27]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA01733; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:43:23 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:43:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by mailfw2.ford.com id AA25069 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Mon, 9 Feb 1998 03:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199802090843.AA25069@mailfw2.ford.com> Received: by mailfw2.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 9 Feb 1998 03:43:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:32:13 +0100 From: Harald Koerfgen Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Organization: Ford Motor Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <19980208165819.59553@uni-koblenz.de> <19980208222640.43252@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 533 Lines: 20 Hi all, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 06:49:39PM +0000, Peter wrote: > > > Hrmm.. makes sense, but it sure looks like it wants stdio.h to compile the > > kernel... > > No kernel code should ever include kernel header files. > > Ralf I assume you meant "No kernel code should ever include non kernel header files" and I totally agree. Actually the DECstation kernel contains code borrowed from milo and it looks like an #include slipped into the kernel. I'll fix this ASAP. regards, Harald From hkoerfg1@ford.com Mon Feb 9 09:40:22 1998 Received: from mailfw2.ford.com (mailfw2.ford.com [136.1.1.27]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA01703; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:40:20 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:40:20 +0100 (MET) Received: by mailfw2.ford.com id AA24767 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Mon, 9 Feb 1998 03:40:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199802090840.AA24767@mailfw2.ford.com> Received: by mailfw2.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 9 Feb 1998 03:40:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:39:45 +0100 From: Harald Koerfgen Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Organization: Ford Motor Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <19980208165819.59553@uni-koblenz.de> <19980208222640.43252@uni-koblenz.de> <19980209085658.31890@foxln.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1226 Lines: 41 Stuart Auchterlonie wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been testing out these kernels as they pop out and I > must say it's good to see something happening again. :-). > > Now onto the problem I have. > Testing is on a Personal 5000/20 btw. > > With Paul's 2.1.14 (from whenever he last released it) when the > system boot goes through the console detection phase I get. > > -Registering Console. > -Got the following for the osconsole env variable: 3,3 > > and the system merrily continues on till it runs out of things that > have been written. > > With the lastest test kernel (and the previous one) I get > > -Got the following for the console env. variable: 1 > > And then complains it doesn't know what it should talk to and > I see no further messages. > > So what got changed in the console detection between paul's latest and > the most recent version ??? Well, this is my fault, I'm afraid. I am hacking a DECstation 5000/133 with serial console set. To keep the console detection code happy I changed prom_getenv("osconsole") to prom_getenv("console") in decststation.c. As a quick fix just change this back to prom_getenv("osconsole"). I'll have a deeper look into that this evening. Regards, Harald From flo@mini.gt.owl.de Mon Feb 9 13:10:59 1998 Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (root@noose.gt.owl.de [194.121.202.24]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA04427; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:10:52 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:10:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from mini.gt.owl.de (flo@mini.gt.owl.de [194.121.202.18]) by noose.gt.owl.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07860 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:10:23 +0100 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by mini.gt.owl.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA10405 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:10:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:10:22 +0100 (CET) From: Florian Lohoff To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel In-Reply-To: <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 759 Lines: 20 On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Michael Engel wrote: > > Fellow DECstation hackers, > > > > I have totally reworked the dec_irq_setup and int-handler.S and (hopefully) the > > periodic interrupts should now work on all DECstations. As usual a patch > > against Pauls linux-2.14.2.dec source tree can be downloaded from: > > > > http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha > > ... the patch, a patched kernel source tree and a binary image are now > also available on http://decstation.unix-ag.org What about introducing a Patch level like in the m68k development something like 2.1.14pl3 etc ... because i see a little bit chaos in the patches ( haralds patches, haralds recent patches) etc ... :) Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@mini.gt.owl.de +49-5241-470566 From harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Mon Feb 9 19:29:33 1998 Received: from ns2.netcologne.de (ns2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.71]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA08557; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:29:27 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:29:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from franz.netcologne.de (max1-112.netcologne.de [194.8.196.112]) by ns2.netcologne.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA20961 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:28:07 GMT X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199802090843.AA25069@mailfw2.ford.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:29:25 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none Sender: harry@franz.netcologne.de From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel Content-Length: 4407 Lines: 118 Hello again, On 09-Feb-98 Harald Koerfgen wrote: > > I assume you meant "No kernel code should ever include non kernel header > files" and I totally agree. Actually the DECstation kernel contains code > borrowed from milo and it looks like an #include slipped into > the kernel. I'll fix this ASAP. > On 08-Feb-98 Stuart Auchterlonie wrote: > With the lastest test kernel (and the previous one) I get > > -Got the following for the console env. variable: 1 > > And then complains it doesn't know what it should talk to and > I see no further messages. Ok, here's the patch. IMHO it's small enough to be posted here, hope you don't mind. --- regards, Harald --- cut here --- diff -rubN linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine.orig/arch/mips/Makefile linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine/arch/mips /Makefile --- linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine.orig/arch/mips/Makefile Mon Feb 9 19:10:05 1998 +++ linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine/arch/mips/Makefile Mon Feb 9 18:30:20 1998 @@ -136,20 +136,8 @@ ARCHIVES := arch/mips/kernel/kernel.o arch/mips/mm/mm.o $(ARCHIVES) LIBS := arch/mips/lib/lib.a $(LIBS) arch/mips/lib/lib.a -MAKEBOOT = $(MAKE) -C arch/$(ARCH)/boot - -zImage: vmlinux - @$(MAKEBOOT) zImage - -compressed: zImage - -zdisk: vmlinux - @$(MAKEBOOT) zdisk - archclean: - @$(MAKEBOOT) clean $(MAKE) -C arch/$(ARCH)/kernel clean $(MAKE) -C arch/$(ARCH)/tools clean archdep: - @$(MAKEBOOT) dep diff -rubN linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine.orig/arch/mips/dec/bitags.c linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine/arch/mips/dec/bitags.c --- linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine.orig/arch/mips/dec/bitags.c Mon Feb 9 19:10:05 1998 +++ linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine/arch/mips/dec/bitags.c Mon Feb 9 18:25:46 1998 @@ -8,9 +8,8 @@ * This file is subject to the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public * License. See the file COPYING in the main directory of this archive for more */ -#include #include -/* #include */ +#include static unsigned int debuglevel = 0; diff -rubN linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine.orig/arch/mips/dec/decstation.c linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine/arch/mips/dec/decstation.c --- linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine.orig/arch/mips/dec/decstation.c Mon Feb 9 19:11:39 1998 +++ linux-2.1.14.2.dec.mine/arch/mips/dec/decstation.c Mon Feb 9 18:55:38 1998 @@ -213,28 +213,29 @@ * * FIXME: Is "osconsole" the same variable on the DS2100/3100's?? */ - console_type = prom_getenv("console"); - if (console_type != NULL) - { - prom_printf("Got the following for the console env. variable: %s\n", - console_type); /* Big case statement goes here to set dec_console_type to the * appropriate value for initialisation in con_type_init() in * drivers/dec/char/deccons.c In the meantime... */ + console_type = prom_getenv("console"); + if (console_type[0] == 's') { + prom_printf("Got the following for the console env. variable: %s\n", + console_type); + prom_printf("Switching to serial console for DS5000\n"); + /* register_console(serial_puts); */ + register_console(prom_printf); + serial_console = 1; /* assume first serial port */ + } + else { + console_type = prom_getenv("osconsole"); + prom_printf("Got the following for the osconsole env. variable: %s\n", + console_type); serial_console = 0; /* assume graphics for the moment */ - if ((console_type[1] == ',') || (console_type[0] == '*')) - { + if ((console_type[1] == ',') || (console_type[0] == '*')) { prom_printf("Should set graphics console for DS5000 in slot %c, kbd/mouse in slot:%c\n", console_type[0], console_type[2]); dec_console_type = "GraphicsConsole"; - } - else if (console_type[0] == 's') - { - prom_printf("Switching to serial console for DS5000\n"); - /* register_console(serial_puts); */ register_console(prom_printf); - serial_console = 1; /* assume first serial port */ } else prom_printf("No idea what console to use!\n"); From stu@cinops.xerox.com Mon Feb 9 20:24:17 1998 Received: from himalia.eastgw.xerox.com (firewall-user@himalia.ext.eastgw.xerox.com [208.140.33.21]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA09723; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:24:08 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:24:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from killians.cinops.xerox.com (root@killians.cinops.xerox.com [13.252.44.22]) by himalia.eastgw.xerox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12949 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from olddetroit.cinops.xerox.com (stu@olddetroit.cinops.xerox.com [13.252.44.7]) by killians.cinops.xerox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18706 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by olddetroit.cinops.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA00723 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:24:20 -0500 (EST) From: Stu Allen Message-Id: <199802091924.OAA00723@olddetroit.cinops.xerox.com> Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel In-Reply-To: from Harald Koerfgen at "Feb 7, 98 05:23:58 pm" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:24:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1664 Lines: 42 Harald Koerfgen wrote: > Fellow DECstation hackers, > > I have totally reworked the dec_irq_setup and int-handler.S and (hopefully) the > periodic interrupts should now work on all DECstations. As usual a patch > against Pauls linux-2.14.2.dec source tree can be downloaded from: > > http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha > > I could test this only on a 5000/133 and a 5000/240, so please give it a try and > send the results (and patches, if any) either to me or to the list. Well, I'm officially bummed. My hopes were really up with the note about "periodic interrupts", but for naught. I tried the patch on my little DECsystem 5100, and here are the results: 1) The memory sizing routine is broken on this box. (You get a stack dump). This isn't from the latest patch, but I needed to fix this in order to boot.) I ended up having to hard-code my memory size, just as I did in Paul's last tree. This _may_ be related to #3 below. 2) The 5100 returns "0" for the console environment variable, so I had to modify the console detection code (easy change). I see that a new patch for this code was just posted; I'll have to take a look at that. 3) The kernel gets as far as "Calculating delay loop" and then it sits forever. I think what is happening is that the timer interrupt isn't. Sound logical? So I get as far as I did with Paul's last tree, but no further. Any hints on what I might look at? I'm assuming that the interrupt vectors aren't being set up right, or maybe the interrupts aren't being enabled? Thanks! Stu -- Stu Allen Phone: (716) 231-0073 EDS / GNS Internet: stu@cinops.xerox.com From drake@cisco.com Mon Feb 9 20:33:40 1998 Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA10314; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:33:38 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:33:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA27489 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:32:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:32:54 -0800 (PST) From: Drake Stoddard To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 24 Lines: 2 remove drake@cisco.com From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Tue Feb 10 06:28:32 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA16904; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:28:30 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:28:30 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-11.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.11]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05793 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:28:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA07125; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:56:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19980209215450.61668@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:54:50 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Florian Lohoff on Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 01:10:22PM +0100 Content-Length: 1175 Lines: 22 On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 01:10:22PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > ... the patch, a patched kernel source tree and a binary image are now > > also available on http://decstation.unix-ag.org > > What about introducing a Patch level like in the m68k development > something like 2.1.14pl3 etc ... because i see a little bit chaos in > the patches ( haralds patches, haralds recent patches) etc ... :) Guys, you're seriously back in history by basing your work on 2.1.14. I suggest to upgrade to Linux/MIPS latest and offer an account with CVS access for doing so. Why? The MIPS code has dramatically improoved since 2.1.14. Yes, there is even a commercial product based on a backport of 2.1.56 back to 2.0.30 because the generic, _not_ the MIPS code was limiting the kernel stability. Use that advantage. Aside maintenance and staying uptodate with my / Linus' releases will be a lot easier for you. And finally the DECstations sources in the ``official'' tree will become more meaningful that ``stubs'' that I've recently deleted. Oh, and I'm under contract for a company to do the R3000 stuff, so by using the CVS you're going to get that stuff for free. Ralf From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Tue Feb 10 06:28:30 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA16903; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:28:29 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:28:29 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-11.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.11]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05787 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:28:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA07167; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:12:11 +0100 Message-ID: <19980209221056.02451@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:10:56 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Cross Development Tools. References: <19980209165709.14978@foxln.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19980209165709.14978@foxln.com.au>; from Stuart Auchterlonie on Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 04:57:09PM +1100 Content-Length: 520 Lines: 17 On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 04:57:09PM +1100, Stuart Auchterlonie wrote: > What are the recommended versions of the xdev tools to use ?? > > Any special patches required ?? Use GCC 2.7.2 and Binutils 2.8.1 plus the newest patches available on ftp.linux.sgi.com. Note: when using binutils 2.8.1 for building a 2.1.x kernel, remove the -N linkerflag from the final kernel link. This is a workaround for a unresolved linker bug. > I'm planning to build the xdev tools for an ultra, > so I'm building from source. Ralf From paul@softway.com.au Tue Feb 10 00:01:32 1998 Received: from sweeney.sw.oz.au (firewall-user@gw.softway.com.au [203.31.96.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA12923; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:01:28 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:01:28 +0100 (MET) Received: by sweeney.sw.oz.au id KAA21435; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:01:18 +1100 (EST) (from paul@softway.com.au for ) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au(192.41.203.48) by sweeney.sw.oz.au via smap (3.2) id xma021430; Tue, 10 Feb 98 10:00:59 +1100 Received: (from paul@localhost) by suede.sw.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01147 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:00:58 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Antoine Message-Id: <199802092300.KAA01147@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:00:56 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199802091924.OAA00723@olddetroit.cinops.xerox.com> from "Stu Allen" at Feb 9, 98 02:24:19 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2686 Lines: 64 Stu Allen wrote: > Well, I'm officially bummed. My hopes were really up with the note > about "periodic interrupts", but for naught. Damn. > I tried the patch on my little DECsystem 5100, and here are the results: > > 1) The memory sizing routine is broken on this box. (You get a > stack dump). This isn't from the latest patch, but I needed to fix > this in order to boot.) I ended up having to hard-code my memory > size, just as I did in Paul's last tree. This _may_ be related to > #3 below. Hmmm... Harald's clever code depends on being able to catch an address/bus error when accessing memory that doesn't exist. Otherwise, the prom code tries to query the boot prom. I'm assuming neither of these methods works with the 5100. > 2) The 5100 returns "0" for the console environment variable, so I > had to modify the console detection code (easy change). I see that > a new patch for this code was just posted; I'll have to take a look > at that. Yes, check if it uses the 'osconsole' env. variable instead. Of course, if your boot prom can store env. variables then you could simply create one... > 3) The kernel gets as far as "Calculating delay loop" and then it > sits forever. I think what is happening is that the timer interrupt > isn't. Sound logical? Nope - it's probably interrupting, but just going somewhere else. > So I get as far as I did with Paul's last tree, but no further. Any > hints on what I might look at? I'm assuming that the interrupt > vectors aren't being set up right, or maybe the interrupts aren't > being enabled? Nope - hopefully just that the int is coming in on another priority... I'd say that the hardware in the 5100 is different enough that it routes timer interrupts to a different vector. One way to check would be to twiddle the interrupt tables so that all hardware int's point to the timer code. Then if you see the bogomips appear you'll know that the timer itself is o.k. You would then need to twiddle to code some more so that it will print out which one got the timer interrupt, and hence you will know which it's on for the 5100. This all assumes that the timer is directly connected to a MIPs interrupt, which is a reasonable first guess; otherwise it may be connected through some hardware you have to turn on, and you'll have to find docs to help with that. Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 From hkoerfg1@ford.com Tue Feb 10 08:46:13 1998 Received: from mailfw1.ford.com (mailfw1.ford.com [136.1.1.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA19303; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:46:11 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:46:11 +0100 (MET) Received: by mailfw1.ford.com id AA26653 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Tue, 10 Feb 1998 02:46:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199802100746.AA26653@mailfw1.ford.com> Received: by mailfw1.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Feb 1998 02:46:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:45:38 +0100 From: Harald Koerfgen Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Organization: Ford Motor Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel References: <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> <19980209215450.61668@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1494 Lines: 34 Hi all, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Guys, you're seriously back in history by basing your work on 2.1.14. Yes, you're right. I just wanted to come to the "unable to mount root" message to learn what has to be done before upgrading. After this is done, I already have started to reintegrate the DECstation stuff into Linux/MIPS-2.1.72. I hope that's ok. > I suggest to upgrade to Linux/MIPS latest and offer an account with > CVS access for doing so. Thanks for the offer, this is definitely needed. On the other hand, I am doing the work on the DECstation port in my free time at home and I don't think that handling a remote CVS repository through a 33k modem sounds like fun. Michael, do you see a chance to handle this? > Why? The MIPS code has dramatically improoved > since 2.1.14. Yes, there is even a commercial product based on a > backport of 2.1.56 back to 2.0.30 because the generic, _not_ the MIPS > code was limiting the kernel stability. Use that advantage. Aside > maintenance and staying uptodate with my / Linus' releases will be > a lot easier for you. And finally the DECstations sources in the > ``official'' tree will become more meaningful that ``stubs'' that I've > recently deleted. Oh, and I'm under contract for a company to do the > R3000 stuff, so by using the CVS you're going to get that stuff for free. I totally agree, this would avoid duplication of work. There is a reasonable amount of R3000 specific stuff already working :-). regards, Harald From imp@village.org Tue Feb 10 17:44:06 1998 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA22162; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:44:03 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:44:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0y2ImX-0002h2-00; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:43:37 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA14044 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:43:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199802101643.JAA14044@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:45:38 +0100." <199802100746.AA26653@mailfw1.ford.com> References: <199802100746.AA26653@mailfw1.ford.com> <199802081236.NAA00682@jordan.numerik> <19980209215450.61668@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:43:50 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 521 Lines: 11 In message <199802100746.AA26653@mailfw1.ford.com> Harald Koerfgen writes: : Thanks for the offer, this is definitely needed. On the other hand, I am : doing the work on the DECstation port in my free time at home and I : don't think that handling a remote CVS repository through a 33k modem : sounds like fun. Michael, do you see a chance to handle this? Hmmm, I've had little to no problems handing a moderately sized CVS tree over a 33.6 modem. It isn't too bad since CVS just sends the diffs in most cases. Warner From tor@spacetec.no Tue Feb 10 19:38:15 1998 Received: from pallas.spacetec.no (pallas.spacetec.no [192.51.5.92]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA23290; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:38:12 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:38:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from tor@localhost) by pallas.spacetec.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA32341 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:37:41 +0100 Message-Id: <199802101837.TAA32341@pallas.spacetec.no> From: tor@spacetec.no (Tor Arntsen) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:37:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: Warner Losh "Re: yet another DECstation kernel" (Feb 10, 17:46) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel Content-Length: 1154 Lines: 22 On Feb 10, 17:46, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <199802100746.AA26653@mailfw1.ford.com> Harald Koerfgen writes: >: Thanks for the offer, this is definitely needed. On the other hand, I am >: doing the work on the DECstation port in my free time at home and I >: don't think that handling a remote CVS repository through a 33k modem >: sounds like fun. Michael, do you see a chance to handle this? > >Hmmm, I've had little to no problems handing a moderately sized CVS >tree over a 33.6 modem. It isn't too bad since CVS just sends the >diffs in most cases. I agree. I'm getting the XEmacs sources over CVS, and apart from the initial checkout the updates are no problem. Use cvs -z9 at all times and it's not bad at all (you then get compressed diffs). I'm on 64kbit and not 33 though, but XEmacs isn't exactly small and there's a lot of activity. Remote CVS is a fine thing, even over a slow link. In fact, if I could get this laptop here to work as I want it then the first thing I would do is to work with a remote 200 MB repository over a 9.6 modem! I expect no problems, I just have to get the initial checkout done by other means first. Tor From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Tue Feb 10 21:21:55 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA24958; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:21:53 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:21:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id VAA04131 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:21:44 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA03225; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:21:42 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802102021.VAA03225@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: yet another DECstation kernel To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:21:42 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199802100746.AA26653@mailfw1.ford.com> from "Harald Koerfgen" at Feb 10, 98 08:45:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 711 Lines: 20 Hi, > > I suggest to upgrade to Linux/MIPS latest and offer an account with > > CVS access for doing so. > > Thanks for the offer, this is definitely needed. On the other hand, I am > doing the work on the DECstation port in my free time at home and I > don't think that handling a remote CVS repository through a 33k modem > sounds like fun. Michael, do you see a chance to handle this? Shouldn't be a problem, we have a 20 MBit link here. Sometimes it also works ;-). Is there some kind of HOWTO that describe how to configure the CVS access ? We should have 2 GB disk space available and I can cross-compile on a Pentium 60 with 64 MB RAM here ... regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From mortenh@c2i.net Tue Feb 10 22:59:25 1998 Received: from falk.c2i.net (falk.c2i.net [193.216.69.97]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA26398; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:59:20 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:59:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from c2i.net (mhelgese@mp-219-74.daxnet.no [193.216.219.74] (may be forged)) by falk.c2i.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00660 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:01:27 +0100 (MET) From: Morten Helgesen To: Ralf Baechle Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:58:40 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: SORRY !! NT here uhh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Length: 590 Lines: 22 -- Hi ther guys. I know this ain't the right place to ask such a question but as long as it is related to the MIPS famely I still try. oops ..... I have an SNI RM200C and really need to install Windown NT on it BUT Siemens Nixdorf don't wanna help me so can any-one of you guys help me ( I know that win NT sucs but I need it for my study ). I know it is possible to use RM200C to install Win NT 4.0 but just don't know where to start, please help me goin' What happens to the comercial "thing" with MIPS Linux, is it availiable on a CD-pack, NOW ?? thanks morten morten@c2i.net From mortenh@c2i.net Tue Feb 10 23:06:55 1998 Received: from falk.c2i.net (falk.c2i.net [193.216.69.97]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA26477; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:06:53 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:06:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from c2i.net (mhelgese@mp-219-74.daxnet.no [193.216.219.74] (may be forged)) by falk.c2i.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02246 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:09:03 +0100 (MET) From: Morten Helgesen To: Ralf Baechle Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:06:07 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: SORRY !! NT here uhh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Length: 591 Lines: 22 -- Hi ther guys. I know this ain't the right place to ask such a question but as long as it is related to the MIPS famely I still try. oops ..... I have an SNI RM200C and really need to install Windown NT on it BUT Siemens Nixdorf don't wanna help me so can any-one of you guys help me ( I know that win NT sucs but I need it for my study ). I know it is possible to use RM200C to install Win NT 4.0 but just don't know where to start, please help me goin' What happens to the comercial "thing" with MIPS Linux, is it availiable on a CD-pack, NOW ?? thanks morten mortenh@c2i.net From tim@cobaltmicro.com Wed Feb 11 07:47:52 1998 Received: from lotus.cobaltmicro.com (firewall.cobaltmicro.com [209.133.34.37]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA02828; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:47:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:47:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by lotus.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA20020 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:49:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: lotus.cobaltmicro.com: tim owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Timothy Stonis X-Sender: tim@lotus Reply-To: Timothy Stonis To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Commercial Linux/MIPS... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 758 Lines: 23 Hi, Just wanted to let you all know that Cobalt has officially announced it's Qube product which is based on Linux/MIPS. There's some information on the product at out website: http://www.cobaltmicro.com/. We've been running our mail and website off our product for quite a while now without a hitch. We'll be shipping a developer version of the product at a rather agressive price point, which offers essentially a turnkey headless Linux box in a cute little package. The install is basically a Redhat one. And you'll be happy to know that much of the kernel work was done by the infamous Ralf... Please feel free to forward me any questions you might have. Of course, what would a bunch of hackers do with a box like that? :-) _Tim From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Wed Feb 11 10:23:46 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA04384; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:23:40 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:23:40 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21163 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:23:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09425; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:20:15 +0100 Message-ID: <19980211102010.31989@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:20:10 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Commercial Linux/MIPS... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Timothy Stonis on Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 10:49:36PM -0800 Content-Length: 1166 Lines: 27 On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 10:49:36PM -0800, Timothy Stonis wrote: > Just wanted to let you all know that Cobalt has officially announced > it's Qube product which is based on Linux/MIPS. There's some information > on the product at out website: http://www.cobaltmicro.com/. > > We've been running our mail and website off our product for quite a > while now without a hitch. > > We'll be shipping a developer version of the product at a rather > agressive price point, which offers essentially a turnkey headless Linux > box in a cute little package. The install is basically a Redhat one. > > And you'll be happy to know that much of the kernel work was done by the > infamous Ralf... Infamous?!? What??? Me?!? > Please feel free to forward me any questions you might have. Of course, > what would a bunch of hackers do with a box like that? :-) There is going to be more commercial Linux/MIPS rsn. Linux will control NMR systems, including medical systems and systems for long time measurements where failure is no option. In those systems Linux will be the successor of a modified Risc/OS 4.51 version. Stay tuned for details ... Ralf From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Wed Feb 11 15:53:11 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA06979; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:53:05 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:53:05 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (dali.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15666 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:52:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA09686; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:49:37 +0100 Message-ID: <19980211154937.59510@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:49:37 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: SORRY !! NT here uhh References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Morten Helgesen on Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 11:06:07PM +0100 Content-Length: 1033 Lines: 25 On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 11:06:07PM +0100, Morten Helgesen wrote: > Hi ther guys. > I know this ain't the right place to ask such a question but as long as it is > related to the MIPS famely I still try. oops ..... > I have an SNI RM200C and really need to install Windown NT on it BUT Siemens > Nixdorf don't wanna help me so can any-one of you guys help me ( I know that > win NT sucs but I need it for my study ). Call the guys in Munich and do "while true; do nervrag; done" ... > I know it is possible to use RM200C to install Win NT 4.0 but just don't know > where to start, please help me goin' You will have to talk to them. An NT installation media isn't sufficient. Most probably you'll also need additional floppies containing the HAL etc. > What happens to the comercial "thing" with MIPS Linux, is it availiable on a > CD-pack, NOW ?? The commercial thing isn't intended as a Linux distribution in the sense as RedHat et al. are offering. It's a small, inexpensive and easy to operate workgroup server. Ralf From mikeg@weiden.de Wed Feb 11 19:44:53 1998 Received: from ns.weiden.de (ns.weiden.de [193.203.186.3]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA08988; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:44:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:44:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mikeg.weiden.de (mikeg@mikeg.weiden.de [193.203.186.200]) by ns.weiden.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15809; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:43:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from mikeg.weiden.de (mikeg@mikeg.weiden.de [193.203.186.200]) by mikeg.weiden.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA00488; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:42:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:42:55 +0100 (MET) From: "Michael L. Galbraith" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Commercial Linux/MIPS... In-Reply-To: <19980211102010.31989@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1357 Lines: 35 On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 10:49:36PM -0800, Timothy Stonis wrote: > > > Just wanted to let you all know that Cobalt has officially announced > > it's Qube product which is based on Linux/MIPS. There's some information > > on the product at out website: http://www.cobaltmicro.com/. > > > > We've been running our mail and website off our product for quite a > > while now without a hitch. > > > > We'll be shipping a developer version of the product at a rather > > agressive price point, which offers essentially a turnkey headless Linux > > box in a cute little package. The install is basically a Redhat one. > > > > And you'll be happy to know that much of the kernel work was done by the > > infamous Ralf... > > Infamous?!? What??? Me?!? > > > Please feel free to forward me any questions you might have. Of course, > > what would a bunch of hackers do with a box like that? :-) > > There is going to be more commercial Linux/MIPS rsn. Linux will control > NMR systems, including medical systems and systems for long time measurements > where failure is no option. In those systems Linux will be the successor > of a modified Risc/OS 4.51 version. Stay tuned for details ... > > Ralf OOHA!, URL's anyone? I have an RM400 (R4400/100) in need of a soul transplant. -Mike From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Wed Feb 11 20:03:37 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA09588; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:03:35 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:03:35 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (dali.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03236 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:03:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10483; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: <19980211195953.60622@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:59:53 +0100 To: "Michael L. Galbraith" Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Commercial Linux/MIPS... References: <19980211102010.31989@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Michael L. Galbraith on Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 07:42:55PM +0100 Content-Length: 1022 Lines: 24 On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 07:42:55PM +0100, Michael L. Galbraith wrote: > > There is going to be more commercial Linux/MIPS rsn. Linux will control > > NMR systems, including medical systems and systems for long time measurements > > where failure is no option. In those systems Linux will be the successor > > of a modified Risc/OS 4.51 version. Stay tuned for details ... > > > > Ralf > > OOHA!, > > URL's anyone? I have an RM400 (R4400/100) in need of a soul transplant. That's yet another type of machine. I've ported Linux to the SNI RM200C; it should also run on the RM300. The R400 is a SMP machine and I don't have any data about it at all. In fact, since so far nobody was so generous to loan me a SMP box there isn't even MIPS SMP yet ... But here is what _you_ can do: Call SNI and have a bit fun nervragging them for Linux. There are so many very different MIPS machines out there that reverse engineering isn't a real option unless you solve the problem of human immortability before :-( Ralf From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Wed Feb 11 21:57:41 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA11983; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:57:39 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:57:39 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (dali.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08295 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:57:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA10785; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:53:59 +0100 Message-ID: <19980211215359.48251@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:53:59 +0100 To: Nat Friedman Cc: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: PPro: Global flag in page table References: <199802112027.PAA07668@ALEPH1.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199802112027.PAA07668@ALEPH1.MIT.EDU>; from Nat Friedman on Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 03:27:50PM -0500 Content-Length: 2665 Lines: 49 On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 03:27:50PM -0500, Nat Friedman wrote: > I was just reading through some Intel docs and noticed that the Pentium Pro > introduced a Global flag for for page table and page directory entries. When > this flag is set on an entry, and the PGE (Page Global Enable) flag is set > in register CR4, the entry is not invalidated in the TLB on a task switch. > My understanding of this is crude, so be gentle if I've misunderstood, but > I don't think that this is implemented for Linux and was wondering if the > benefits warranted implementing it. > > Miguel tells me that a similar tactic is implemented in the MIPS port - it > might be nice for PPro to have it too. No, we don't use that feature on MIPS. It could be used for the pagetables for kernel virtual memory - but we currently don't use it, mainly because it would make flushing the TLB more complex because would have to examine every entry before we might flush it. Basically it would be a tradeoff between the costs of an increased number page faults for pagetable entries for kernel virtual memory and the increased costs for a more complex TLB flush routine. I haven't done detailed profiling on that but my stomach says that trying to avoid the added complexity by using the global bit is actually making things faster. I suppose this would be different on the PPro. There is another strategy which the MIPS port is using to avoid the cost of having to flush and possibly reload the TLB entries on MIPS. On MIPS each TLB entry has an additional 6 bit (R2000, R3000 series) / 8 bit (R4000 and up) field that contains something called process id / address space identifier. That field basicaly allows to tag TLB entries such that there is in most cases no need to flush the entire TLB on context switches. With respect to the global bit in TLB entries this means that we may have multiple entries for the same kernel virtual address in the TLB, just with a different PID / ASID tag. (PID / ASID is the same thing; it's just a different naming for the 32 bit and 64 bit implementations of the MIPS architecture) A feature we do use on MIPS is the KSEG0. KSEG0 ("Kernel SEGment 0") is an area in the virtual address space at 0x80000000 of 512mb size which is 1:1 mapped to physical addresses from 0 upwards. KSEG0 is probably best compared with the transparent translation registers of the 68030 with the big difference that it cannot be disabled and the only thing that can be configured for KSEG0 is the caching mode the CPU uses to access the main memory. KSEG0 is actually a nice win because the topic of TLB faults for kernel memory is non-issue on MIPS. Ralf From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Mon Feb 16 06:33:44 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA18463; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:33:41 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:33:41 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22064 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:33:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA19766; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:29:43 +0100 Message-ID: <19980216062942.48264@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:29:42 +0100 To: linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Fwd: Linux ported to non MMU systems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Content-Length: 3258 Lines: 87 This might be interesting for some guys interested in porting Linux to cheapo embedded MIPS CPUs. Linux still lacks the support for thingies like the R4640 base / bounds register pair. Ralf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "D. Jeff Dionne" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: Linux ported to non MMU systems Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:02:28 GMT Organization: none Approved: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov (Mikko Rauhala) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: laulujoutsen.pc.helsinki.fi Old-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:08:49 -0500 X-No-Archive: yes X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP comp.os.linux.announce iQCVAgUBNOIR5FrUI/eHXJZ5AQH2owQAx3Pfi62E6F0E2iV4CqAWt7s9a0Q6rUfc lqG+44jNIgu6h7rU1t9OiSTrjADUp0RVgkorH41tu2hTF3HF3SH/1MX4HTxjV2Ge Fllqz2rIvKrsK9RJbtpPzdSo45hhwB/1/CWBIWCM98REjOE5Ut8hODIwZhS/WCsq ZSbS5L6jDbk= =xgVX Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de comp.os.linux.announce:9897 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Announcing The Linux/Microcontroller Project. Description: Linux has been ported to 68000 processors _without_ Memory Management Units. This is the first port of Linux that does not require an MMU. The first platform supported is the 3Com PalmPilot or IBM Workpad with a TRG SuperPilot memory card. Next to be supported will be the Motorola MC68332 microcontroller, expected in the next few weeks. Why: Linux for embedded systems is a great idea. Who and when: Part of The Silver Hammer Group Ltd's programming team. Kenneth Albanowski and D. Jeff Dionne produced a booting Linux kernel for the PalmPilot during the week of Jan26 1998. Due to the structure of the linux memory management code, the port to a flat contiguous vs. paged virtual memory system went very smoothly. Status: The kernel boots on a plain old 68000 CPU, TCP/IP and all, mounts a ROMFS root filesystem and runs a special hand crafted /etc/init in user space as well as a handful of kernel threads happily printing AAAAAABBBBBBBAAAAAABBBBB :-) We are still working on libc, and the compiler support is still in flux. If you are interested in Linux on small or embedded machines, visit the uClinux home page at http://ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca/uClinux We even have a nifty screen shot of Linux running on the PalmPilot simulator XCoPilot. Stop by and lend a hand. Contacting us: We can be contacted about the Linux/Microcontroller project at uclinux@ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca D. Jeff Dionne Kenneth Albanowski - -- This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. http://www.iki.fi/mjr/cola-public-key.asc has PGP key for validating signature. Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. This group is archived at http://www.iki.fi/liw/linux/cola.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNOIR5FrUI/eHXJZ5AQGlUAQAmgoPJUt+pVTNNbzpye37UxooJrcYkdDc 1HzKmKKew+UDM2MIvpSCvWZgNheP2Pk87i2+H5vrjla1TBokC9v9MWuQWWVo8KnE MEWYU/k2F+3rXpVsfRSJWq5toGrIiADZ98W190YenJC5GL616YZCqQBJpqGPER5U ZOLU4RoyKHM= =FqDL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kmaraas@fib.hl.no Mon Feb 16 13:28:21 1998 Received: from online.no (pilt.online.no [193.212.1.34]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA21995; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:28:19 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:28:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from fib.hl.no (pc130.fib.hl.no [193.215.103.130]) by online.no (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA09311 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:28:12 +0100 (MET) Sender: kjama@online.no Message-ID: <34E83072.749D1EC5@fib.hl.no> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:26:26 +0000 From: Kjartan Maraas Organization: Folkeuniversitetet i Hordaland / Friundervisningen i Bergen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-mips@fnet.fr" Subject: SNI RM400 series Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 244 Lines: 8 A friend of mine has a chance of getting a RM400 from work. He's recently started working at Siemens Nixdorf in Norway. He is wondering about the status of Linux support for these machines, and how to help if needed. Greetings Kjartan Maraas From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Mon Feb 16 21:58:32 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA25019; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:58:30 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:58:30 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-07.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.7]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22922 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:58:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01906; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:54:47 +0100 Message-ID: <19980216215447.40409@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:54:47 +0100 To: Kjartan Maraas Cc: "linux-mips@fnet.fr" Subject: Re: SNI RM400 series References: <34E83072.749D1EC5@fib.hl.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <34E83072.749D1EC5@fib.hl.no>; from Kjartan Maraas on Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 12:26:26PM +0000 Content-Length: 532 Lines: 14 On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 12:26:26PM +0000, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > A friend of mine has a chance of getting a RM400 from work. > He's recently started working at Siemens Nixdorf in Norway. > > He is wondering about the status of Linux support for these machines, > and how to help if needed. The small brother RM200 is supported except X (and that I did not publish everything yet ...) The RM400 shouldn't be too different, except if it's a SMP machine. The SMP case is a bit more difficult - Alan says a week or so ... Ralf From kmaraas@fib.hl.no Tue Feb 17 12:46:13 1998 Received: from online.no (pilt.online.no [193.212.1.34]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA00395; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:46:10 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:46:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from fib.hl.no (pc130.fib.hl.no [193.215.103.130]) by online.no (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15860; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:45:54 +0100 (MET) Sender: kjama@online.no Message-ID: <34E97806.3B9C9FB6@fib.hl.no> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:44:06 +0000 From: Kjartan Maraas Organization: Folkeuniversitetet i Hordaland / Friundervisningen i Bergen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: "linux-mips@fnet.fr" Subject: Re: SNI RM400 series References: <34E83072.749D1EC5@fib.hl.no> <19980216215447.40409@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 806 Lines: 26 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 12:26:26PM +0000, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > > A friend of mine has a chance of getting a RM400 from work. > > He's recently started working at Siemens Nixdorf in Norway. > > > > He is wondering about the status of Linux support for these machines, > > and how to help if needed. > > The small brother RM200 is supported except X (and that I did not publish > everything yet ...) The RM400 shouldn't be too different, except if it's > a SMP machine. The SMP case is a bit more difficult - Alan says a week > or so ... > > Ralf Thank you very much for the info. I was told that the machine I mentioned only had one CPU, but that could be wrong. Do you know if they are available in as non SMP also? I'll relay the info. Thanks again Kjartan From kmaraas@fib.hl.no Tue Feb 17 14:52:36 1998 Received: from online.no (pilt.online.no [193.212.1.34]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA00960; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:52:28 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:52:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from fib.hl.no (pc130.fib.hl.no [193.215.103.130]) by online.no (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14406 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:52:03 +0100 (MET) Sender: kjama@online.no Message-ID: <34E9959A.277E9281@fib.hl.no> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:50:18 +0000 From: Kjartan Maraas Organization: Folkeuniversitetet i Hordaland / Friundervisningen i Bergen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: SNI RM400 series References: <34E83072.749D1EC5@fib.hl.no> <19980216215447.40409@uni-koblenz.de> <34E97806.3B9C9FB6@fib.hl.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1037 Lines: 37 Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 12:26:26PM +0000, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > > > > A friend of mine has a chance of getting a RM400 from work. > > > He's recently started working at Siemens Nixdorf in Norway. > > > > > > He is wondering about the status of Linux support for these machines, > > > and how to help if needed. > > > > The small brother RM200 is supported except X (and that I did not publish > > everything yet ...) The RM400 shouldn't be too different, except if it's > > a SMP machine. The SMP case is a bit more difficult - Alan says a week > > or so ... > > > > Ralf > > Thank you very much for the info. > > I was told that the machine I mentioned only had one CPU, but that > could be wrong. Do you know if they are available in as non SMP also? > > I'll relay the info. > > Thanks again > Kjartan Back again. It turns out that the machine is an older version called RM400 model 5, and has a R3000 CPU. Is this worth the trouble? Thanks again. Kjartan From tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp Wed Feb 18 01:57:03 1998 Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (firewall-user@kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA07312; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:56:59 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:56:59 +0100 (MET) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id JAA15962; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:56:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (3.2) id xma015955; Wed, 18 Feb 98 09:56:48 +0900 Received: from nagoya.na.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-97112516) with ESMTP id JAA06226; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:56:46 +0900 (JST) Received: from katana.na.kubota.co.jp (katana.na.kubota.co.jp [133.253.116.199]) by nagoya.na.kubota.co.jp (8.7.4+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W4-03/20/96) with ESMTP id JAA06344; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:57:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by katana.na.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6Wbeta7-971117) with ESMTP id AAA03057; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:57:02 GMT To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp Subject: Is Magnum 4000 supported? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on XEmacs 20.3 (Vatican City) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980218095700L.tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:57:00 +0900 (JST) From: Tatsuya Nakamura X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Content-Length: 514 Lines: 22 Hello, I try to use of Linux/MIPS on MIPS Magnum 4000 system. I tried some versions kernel, and some configuration. But, 2.1.XX kernel didn't show some message to console. The 2.0.21 kernel could show message to console, but it didn't work fine. 2.0.21 kernel stopped after ethernet information displaing, and appear this message: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000004, epc == ffffffff8005ac5c $0: ........ MIPS Magnum 4000 system does not tested? with best regards. Tatsuya. From gi@df1.telmex.net.mx Wed Feb 18 17:47:35 1998 Received: from hermes.uninet.net.mx (hermes.uninet.net.mx [200.33.146.225] (may be forged)) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA12804; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:47:22 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:47:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from PC_gi.df1.telmex.net.mx (mex4tnt_p_130.uninet.net.mx [200.38.131.130]) by hermes.uninet.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22498 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:50:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Abraham_Noli_Mart=EDnez?=" Subject: Ayuda sobre LInux-MIPS para una DECStation 3100 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 10:46:41 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 121 Lines: 4 Hola: Deseos saber si existe alguna versión de Linux que corra en una DECStation 3100. Si existe donde puedo obtenerla. From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Thu Feb 19 05:21:22 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA18478; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 05:21:20 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 05:21:20 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-20.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.20]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26312 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 05:21:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA10525; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:47:50 +0100 Message-ID: <19980219004750.26917@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:47:50 +0100 To: Tatsuya Nakamura Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Is Magnum 4000 supported? References: <19980218095700L.tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19980218095700L.tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp>; from Tatsuya Nakamura on Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 09:57:00AM +0900 Content-Length: 1004 Lines: 30 On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 09:57:00AM +0900, Tatsuya Nakamura wrote: > I try to use of Linux/MIPS on MIPS Magnum 4000 system. > > I tried some versions kernel, and some configuration. > > But, 2.1.XX kernel didn't show some message to console. > The 2.0.21 kernel could show message to console, but it didn't work > fine. > > 2.0.21 kernel stopped after ethernet information displaing, > and appear this message: > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000004, epc == ffffffff8005ac5c > $0: ........ > > MIPS Magnum 4000 system does not tested? The development is actually being done by somebody who's using an OEM version of the Magnum 4000, the Olivetti M700-10. But that machine is 99.9% identical. Question: do you know if you have a Magnum 4000SC? The SC CPU version is quite a bit faster but the support for it is broken in the kernels you've tested. What resolution is you machine running at? Milo and the kernel only support the lowres mode (1024 x 768). Ralf From tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp Fri Feb 20 13:35:21 1998 Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (firewall-user@kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA29867; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:34:39 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:34:39 +0100 (MET) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id VAA22811; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:34:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (3.2) id xma022800; Fri, 20 Feb 98 21:33:44 +0900 Received: from nagoya.na.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-97112516) with ESMTP id VAA26783; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:33:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from katana.na.kubota.co.jp (katana.na.kubota.co.jp [133.253.116.199]) by nagoya.na.kubota.co.jp (8.7.4+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W4-03/20/96) with ESMTP id VAA05703; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:33:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by katana.na.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6Wbeta7-971117) with ESMTP id MAA18147; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:33:39 GMT To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp Subject: Re: Is Magnum 4000 supported? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:47:50 +0100" <19980219004750.26917@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980219004750.26917@uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on XEmacs 20.3 (Vatican City) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980220213337L.tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:33:37 +0900 (JST) From: Tatsuya Nakamura X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Content-Length: 1195 Lines: 36 $@!J3t!K#K#G#T(B $@L>8E20%5!<%S%9%;%s%?!<$NCfB<$G$9!#(B Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:47:50 +0100 $@$KAw$C$F$$$?$@$$$?(B $@!X(BRe: Is Magnum 4000 supported?$@!Y$N7o$K$D$$$F%a!<%k$7$^$9!#(B Hello, Mr.Ralf. ralf> > MIPS Magnum 4000 system does not tested? ralf> ralf> The development is actually being done by somebody who's using an OEM ralf> version of the Magnum 4000, the Olivetti M700-10. But that machine is ralf> 99.9% identical. I got the ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-magnum-971229.gz file. It was uploaded by Mr.Thomas, and he using this kernel on Olivetti M700. But, when I used this kernel, only appear the "Launching kernel..." message. ralf> Question: do you know if you have a Magnum 4000SC? The SC CPU version is ralf> quite a bit faster but the support for it is broken in the kernels you've ralf> tested. My system is Magnum 4000SC-50. R4000SC CPU does not supported? ralf> What resolution is you machine running at? Milo and the kernel ralf> only support the lowres mode (1024 x 768). Resolution setting is 1024x768. I'm using Milo 0.27.1. And milo show the "Launching Kernel...". My system's setting is may be good. with best regards. Tatsuya. From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Sun Feb 22 20:35:10 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA18326; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:35:08 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:35:08 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12024 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:35:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA02729; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:31:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19980222193118.35979@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:31:18 +0100 To: Tatsuya Nakamura Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Is Magnum 4000 supported? References: <19980219004750.26917@uni-koblenz.de> <19980220213337L.tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19980220213337L.tatsuya@na.kubota.co.jp>; from Tatsuya Nakamura on Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 09:33:37PM +0900 Content-Length: 1047 Lines: 32 On Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 09:33:37PM +0900, Tatsuya Nakamura wrote: > I got the ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-magnum-971229.gz > file. > It was uploaded by Mr.Thomas, and he using this kernel on Olivetti > M700. In theory it should work, modulo the R4000SC bugs, see below. > But, when I used this kernel, only appear the "Launching kernel..." > message. > > ralf> Question: do you know if you have a Magnum 4000SC? The SC CPU version is > ralf> quite a bit faster but the support for it is broken in the kernels you've > ralf> tested. > My system is Magnum 4000SC-50. > R4000SC CPU does not supported? Basically it is supported; it's just that the code for it is buggy. I've made some fixes but I don't have the time to publish 'em. > ralf> What resolution is you machine running at? Milo and the kernel > ralf> only support the lowres mode (1024 x 768). > Resolution setting is 1024x768. > > I'm using Milo 0.27.1. > And milo show the "Launching Kernel...". > My system's setting is may be good. Yes, seems to be so. Ralf From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Mon Feb 23 05:10:32 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA22460; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:10:30 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:10:30 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01150 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:10:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA04330; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19980223021252.30338@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:12:52 +0100 To: Kjartan Maraas Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: SNI RM400 series References: <34E83072.749D1EC5@fib.hl.no> <19980216215447.40409@uni-koblenz.de> <34E97806.3B9C9FB6@fib.hl.no> <34E9959A.277E9281@fib.hl.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <34E9959A.277E9281@fib.hl.no>; from Kjartan Maraas on Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 01:50:18PM +0000 Content-Length: 376 Lines: 10 On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 01:50:18PM +0000, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > It turns out that the machine is an older version called RM400 model 5, > and has a R3000 CPU. Is this worth the trouble? That definately means a hell lot of trouble. It's worth it if you are a hacker from hell, if you eat kernel listings for breakfeast, drink Bit in the evening and piss larts ;-) Ralf From mike@sh-gpl.ti.com Mon Feb 23 18:25:18 1998 Received: from tower.ti.com (tower.ti.com [192.94.94.5]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA25937; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:25:15 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:25:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from sh-gpl.ti.com ([158.218.236.56]) by tower.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03356; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:24:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from huikau.sh-gpl.ti.com (huikau.sh-gpl.ti.com [158.218.234.81]) by sh-gpl.ti.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03229; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:24:29 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Haight Received: (from mike@localhost) by huikau.sh-gpl.ti.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA01199; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:24:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199802231724.LAA01199@huikau.sh-gpl.ti.com> Subject: Linux/MIPS. Unusual box for the target list. To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:24:28 -0600 (CST) Cc: nethead1@airmail.net Reply-To: mike@sh-gpl.ti.com Errors-To: mike@sh-gpl.ti.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1190 Lines: 25 Hello all, A suggestion box to port this to would be a Philips Velo 1. It uses a 3.3V 32-Bit MIPS R3910 RISC processor @36MHz. It would be a real challenge due to the fact that this is a diskless system so Linux/X would have to be reduced to 8 Meg. Moreover, there is only 4 Meg RAM (mine has 8 however). It would have to be installed via a 8 Meg ROM "minicard" that is easily added to the palmtop internally. I know this would introduce the problem of hardware costs, but people have been buying CDs for years now. It is also going to be a hassle during the porting process. :( It should also be noted that the Velo 1 is in its declining days. It will be replaced shortly with the Velo 500 model (75MHz, 32-bit MIPS-based Philips PR31700 RISC processor) and is expected to hit the marketplace in the March/April timeframe. I request the Velo 1 port because I already own one. I would be happy to assist in anyway that I could. I have spent time hacking kernel and/or user code and enjoyed it. This would present itself as an opportunity to learn something new. Please free me from the grips of the evil WindowsCE. -- Regards, Michael Haight mhaight@ti.com From drake@cisco.com Mon Feb 23 18:57:43 1998 Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA26129; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:57:40 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:57:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA18924 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) From: Drake Stoddard To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS. Unusual box for the target list. In-Reply-To: <199802231724.LAA01199@huikau.sh-gpl.ti.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 759 Lines: 24 WILL SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST??? THANK YOU drake@cisco.com -Drake -- Opening a case is as easy as - http://wwwin-eng.cisco.com/Eng/ECS/Public/support-menu.html e-mail "sysadmin", or call the HOTLINE @ x6-8888 (option 2) for case escalations - http://wwwin-eng.cisco.com/Eng/ECS/Public/escalations.html +---------------------------------------------------------+ | | Drake Stoddard | | ECS Frontline Analyst ||| ||| Cisco System, Inc. ||||| ||||| Phone: 408-527-8266 .:|||||||||:..:|||||||||:. Pager: 408-951-4013 c i s c o S y s t e m s Email: drake@cisco.com +---------------------------------------------------------+ From robm@gemstone.com Tue Feb 24 02:10:54 1998 Received: from gemstone.com (slcgate.gemstone.com [207.79.207.46]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA00234; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:10:52 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:10:52 +0100 (MET) Received: by gemstone.com (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #1) id ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from twix by servio.gemstone.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0y78q6-001H7xC; Mon, 23 Feb 98 17:07 PST Message-ID: <34F21D2E.218B@gemstone.com> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:06:54 -0800 From: Rob Mohr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux/MIPS DECstation port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 486 Lines: 10 I have a DECstation 3100 with 24MB RAM and color video. I also have a TK50 tape unit. I am willing to help out however I can in this porting project. My programming experience is very limited (read NO kernal hacking experience) but am willing to be a guinea pig for Beta testing and any other tasks that the group needs done. I do web site development and design for a living, so I might be able to maintain a website for the group if that function is not already filled. Rob Mohr From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Tue Feb 24 02:43:57 1998 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA00460; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:43:55 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:43:55 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-05.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.5]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16051 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:43:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA01052; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:40:54 +0100 Message-ID: <19980224024054.42683@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:40:54 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS. Unusual box for the target list. References: <199802231724.LAA01199@huikau.sh-gpl.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Drake Stoddard on Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 09:56:42AM -0800 Content-Length: 372 Lines: 12 On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 09:56:42AM -0800, Drake Stoddard wrote: > WILL SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST??? > THANK YOU > drake@cisco.com You can do it yourself by mailing the "unsubscribe" command to linux-mips-request@fnet.fr. That's actually the standard mechanism for mailinglists, so I assume it's the first time you've been subscribed somewhere ... Ralf From engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de Tue Feb 24 16:05:21 1998 Received: from fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de [141.99.2.230]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA04186; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:05:19 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:05:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from jordan.numerik (jordan [141.99.112.9]) by fourier.numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with SMTP id QAA14441 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:04:39 +0100 (MET) Received: by jordan.numerik (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA19703; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:04:38 +0100 From: engel@numerik.math.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel) Message-Id: <199802241504.QAA19703@jordan.numerik> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS DECstation port To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:04:38 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <34F21D2E.218B@gemstone.com> from "Rob Mohr" at Feb 23, 98 05:06:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 727 Lines: 22 Hi, > I have a DECstation 3100 with 24MB RAM and color video. I also have a > TK50 tape unit. I am willing to help out however I can in this porting > project. My programming experience is very limited (read NO kernal > hacking experience) but am willing to be a guinea pig for Beta testing > and any other tasks that the group needs done. Welcome to the club ! ;-) > I do web site development and design for a living, so I might be able > to maintain a website for the group if that function is not already > filled. We already have a website at http://decstation.unix-ag.org I currently maintain these pages but am open to any suggestions how to improve the server ... regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.org) From frist@lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de Tue Feb 24 09:58:12 1998 Received: from lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (frist@lehr.chem.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.66.25]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA02372; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:58:09 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:58:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (frist@localhost) by lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00472 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:00:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:00:27 +0100 (CET) From: Frieder Streffer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: DECstation 3100 patch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 498 Lines: 13 Hi all, now here is the patch for the DS3100/DS2100, so the patch is against Pauls last Kernel and include all work of Harald. I have include a very crude console code, only for the DS3100 but for the mono and color framebuffer and any one who like to have a look should uncomment the console_init statement in init/main.c. Unfortunately I do not have any Webspace availible, so I will send the patch to Martin, who (so I hope) will put the patch to the DECstation Webpage. best regards Frieder From frist@lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de Tue Feb 24 10:02:05 1998 Received: from lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (frist@lehr.chem.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.66.25]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA02434; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:02:03 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:02:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (frist@localhost) by lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00479 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:04:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:04:25 +0100 (CET) From: Frieder Streffer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: mistyping in my mind Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 130 Lines: 7 Hi, in my last e-mail, I mentioned some guy "Martin", who I ment was of cause Michael Engel! Sorry about this Michael. 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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD43A1.5D93B9C0-- From kristoff.bonne@skynet.be Sat Feb 28 14:35:17 1998 Received: from thor.private (root@pppdialup18veu.interpac.be [194.78.249.19]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA12597; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:35:13 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:35:13 +0100 (MET) From: kristoff.bonne@skynet.be Received: from thor.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor.private (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA00872 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:35:35 +0100 Message-Id: <199802281335.OAA00872@thor.private> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:35:30 +0100 (MET) Sender: Kristoff BONNE Reply-To: kristoff.bonne@skynet.be Subject: status linux/MIPS for dec/pmax To: linux-mips@fnet.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; BOUNDARY="-1463811840-1169529124-888672937=:658" Content-Length: 1128 Lines: 38 ---1463811840-1169529124-888672937=:658 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings, At work, I have a number of 'old' decstation 5000/33 I can use. For the moment, they run NetBSD/pmax or OpenBSD/pmax, but I would like to give linux a try on (at least) one of them. I've notifed that thereis some 'dec-station' stuff in the latest 2.1 kernels, but not much documentation. Can somebody tell me the 'status' of linux on dec/pmax, and how to install it on them. (Acrording the (more general) linux/MIPS FAQ, is there a web-page on linux-on-decstation on a site in Australia, but appears to be gone!). Any help welcome, and Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. -- Kr. Bonne - Bredene BEL Member of the linux/GNU-community. ---1463811840-1169529124-888672937=:658 Content-Type: APPLICATION/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBNPgSo6GsfnIQ22XBAQGYtAQAvAkr9s3R+R2i+WA1kCoQQGGWYfWnFnnD kD43leit27G05K+iH7SHnLvXKjGBNH0oCOz2zBcIc5mnf2pLfK0xonEN0U9SInsx tKOHor3okf7oU/vzhRRqUbdAy6tAVET6i4wgqeugpYrL1hlWV5YPCWcOSCUd9m28 xXmZP4WRoQw= =BTWR -----END PGP MESSAGE----- ---1463811840-1169529124-888672937=:658--