From vgm@cldc.howard.edu Sat Nov 1 07:30:05 1997 Received: from grimlock.cldc.howard.edu (grimlock.cldc.howard.edu [138.238.135.65]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA13649; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:30:02 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:30:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from sentinel.cldc.howard.edu (sentinel.cldc.howard.edu [138.238.135.28]) by grimlock.cldc.howard.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13486 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vgm@localhost) by sentinel.cldc.howard.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA16026 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:29:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: sentinel.cldc.howard.edu: vgm owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:29:54 -0500 (EST) From: Victor G Marshall To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux MIPS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 359 Lines: 11 Hi ! I am Victor Marshall. I came accross the Linux MIPS homepage and noticed that you are looking for folks with MIPS machines to test the code on. Can you please send me more information about what that would entail? Would I have to write formal reports about performance? Would I have to come up with my own testing methodology? etc. Thanks, Victor From K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com Sun Nov 2 11:05:32 1997 Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id LAA28833; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:05:32 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:05:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from gandalf (ppp003.research.kpn.com) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.1-8 #18053) with SMTP id <01IPJ5WGDOQ80008XW@research.kpn.com> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:05:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 11:04:59 +0100 From: Karel van Houten Subject: Please add me to the linux MIPS mailing list. Sender: karel@research.kpn.com To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Message-id: <345C504B.3D5EB1A@research.kpn.com> Organization: KPN Research MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 149 Lines: 5 I would like to hear more about running Linux on DECstations, so I want to join the mailing list. Karel van Houten K.H.C.vanHouten@research.kpn.com From alhaz@xmission.com Wed Nov 5 05:00:50 1997 Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA21801; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:00:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:00:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from Synthia [166.70.3.86] (alhaz) by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.62 #4) id 0xSwdz-0002tG-00; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:00:40 -0700 Message-ID: <345FEFC2.3AEC@xmission.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 21:02:10 -0700 From: Eric Jorgensen X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Hardware Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1210 Lines: 25 I own, among other things, a MIPS RISComputer RC3240 and a MIPS RISCStation RS2030 (sans monitor, tho I know where to get one). They are, and have been for the last year, collecting dust. the RC3240 has 40 megs of ram and a 330 meg harddrive, the RS2030 has 12 megs of ram and I believe a 140 meg harddrive. If someone in the US is seriously working on, or considering working on the R3000 kernel port, I would be willing to loan either or both of the systems, as they're doing no good to me other than sentimental value. The RC3240 was my first unix, when I had a "borrowed" account on it at a local university. Both systems appear to be in fine condition. The RC3240 has a pair of 16 meg memory boards and one 8 meg memory board, but I have unfortunately not been able to get all 3 of them working at once. Both also have most of RISCos 4.52+ already on them. RC3240 also has the obligatory tape drive. Anyone seriously interested should email me. They do have sentimental value so I do eventually want them back, but neither has done anything useful in about a year. I'm not really opposed to sending them out of the country except that shipping costs would be signifigantly increased. - Eric From ghalimi@cybersociety.com Wed Nov 5 09:32:50 1997 Received: from mail1.mailsorter.net ([207.67.128.14]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA23466; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:32:44 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:32:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from dragon ([140.77.191.202]) by mail1.mailsorter.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA15052 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:27:37 -0800 Sender: ighalimi@fnet.fr Message-ID: <34602EEF.6101@cybersociety.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:31:43 +0100 From: Ismael Ghalimi Organization: Cybersociety X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Join the list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 191 Lines: 10 Hi, I'd like to join the list. Best regards -- Ismael Ghalimi (cassiel) From : Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon E-mail : Ismael.Ghalimi@ens-lyon.fr WWW : http://www.cybersociety.com From ghalimi@cybersociety.com Wed Nov 5 12:46:28 1997 Received: from mail1.mailsorter.net ([207.67.128.14]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA24355; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:46:25 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:46:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from dragon ([140.77.191.202]) by mail1.mailsorter.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA3580 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:41:25 -0800 Sender: ighalimi@fnet.fr Message-ID: <34605C3A.2E14@cybersociety.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 12:44:58 +0100 From: Ismael Ghalimi Organization: Cybersociety X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux MIPS Mailing List Subject: Introduction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1646 Lines: 37 Hi, Let me introduce myself on this mailing list. I'm a French computer science graduate student working on clusters of PCs using Linux as main OS. I work on this project with many other developers worldwide and we are designing a high-bandwidth/low-latency switched network which should allow us to connect up to 64 PCs on a hypercube topology with almost the full 64-bit/66MHz PCI bandwidth. Our PCs are using the 533MHz Digital Alpha CPU as main CPU. Our idea is to use a dedicated I/O coprocessor which would run many I/O tasks as a parallel file system or a distributed shared memory. We would like to use one of the MIPS clones for it, for instance the IDT RM4700. It would allow us to get a 64-bit I/O coprocessor, eventually runing under Linux (others I/O coprocessors like the Intel i960 run on proprietary OS like VxWorks...). But we need to get a full 64-bit Linux running on a RM4700 with eventually some real-time features. Many embedded systems are using MIPS-like CPU. A good & free 64-bit OS would be very useful for many other applications and would allow developers to use them without having to pay highly expensive development tools like those provided for the Intel i960. Do you know when such a version of Linux could be available and are you interested by this project? We should be able to provide a RM4700-based board to any serious developer who could help us in this work. All of our developments are made under the GPL. Many thanks for your help. Best regards (^_^) -- Ismael Ghalimi (cassiel) From : Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon E-mail : Ismael.Ghalimi@ens-lyon.fr WWW : http://www.cybersociety.com From bobp@congruent.com Fri Nov 7 01:38:13 1997 Received: from wilt.congruent.com ([38.249.145.11]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA09164; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 01:38:12 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 01:38:12 +0100 (MET) Received: by WILT with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:35:34 -0500 Message-ID: <30E5734D98AAD0118B850020AFF8D890022385@WILT> From: Robert Pascazio To: "'linux-mips@fnet.fr'" Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:35:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Length: 572 Lines: 22 Hello, I just inherited a Mips Magnum-4000 with the hopes of using it as a Linux machine. I am a professional programmer who's speciality happens to be OS internals (usually Windows NT lately). I'd like to contribute to the project. My hopes is to get this machine running with the on-board peripherials as it has many extras built in. Could you point me to the latest information, list of people working on Magnum ports, lists I should join, etc? Thanks, Bob Bob Pascazio Congruent Software, Inc. 110 Greene Street New York, NY 10012 212-941-7500 fax 431-0404 From joe@void.tao.org.uk Fri Nov 7 02:04:36 1997 Received: from void.tao.org.uk (void.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA09360; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:04:33 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:04:33 +0100 (MET) Received: (from joe@localhost) by void.tao.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA00646; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 01:04:42 GMT Message-ID: <19971107010442.39220@tao.org.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 01:04:42 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: [pab@RMnet.IT: Re: Looking for a mips binary] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 Content-Length: 2072 Lines: 62 Can anyone help me with this please? Thanks in advance, Joe -----Forwarded message from Paolo Bevilacqua ----- Return-Path: Received: from malcolm.rmnet.it (pab@malcolm.rmnet.it [194.20.98.1]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05526 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:26:07 GMT Received: (from pab@localhost) by malcolm.rmnet.it (8.8.6/8.8.5) id LAA11084 for joe@tao.org.uk; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:25:48 +0100 From: Paolo Bevilacqua Message-Id: <199711061025.LAA11084@malcolm.rmnet.it> Subject: Re: Looking for a mips binary To: joe@tao.org.uk (Josef Karthauser) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:25:47 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <19971105233508.10488@tao.org.uk> from "Josef Karthauser" at Nov 5, 97 11:35:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Josef, i don't play with this stuff anymore. You can ask on the mailing list linux-mips@fnet.fr and somebody will be hopefully able to help you. good luck, /pab > > Hi, > > I hope you don't mind me contacting you, but I think that you > may be able to help me. > > I'm need a mips binary image to test some emulation software that > I'm developing. I got your email address from a Linux mips document > and so I reckon it's likely that you've got access to a mips machine. > > What I need is a statically linked binary of the following code: > > main() > { > write( 1, "Hello MIPS World!\n", 18); > } > > > i.e. gcc -o test -static test.c > > Could it be possible that you'd be able to make me one and mail it > to me? > > Thankyou in advance if you can help me with this. > Joe > > p.s. If you can tell me what unix architecture it's designed to run > under also that'd help (i.e. linux-mips, netbsd, sgi, etc.) > -----End of forwarded message----- From 0381685071-0001@t-online.de Sat Nov 8 10:22:52 1997 Received: from mailout04.btx.dtag.de (mailout04.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.152]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA21295; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:22:51 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:22:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from fwd13.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.173] by mailout04.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xU75I-0005q2-00; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:21:40 +0100 Received: from Noname (0381685071-0001(btxid)@[193.159.20.94]) by fwd13.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:21:37 +0200 Message-ID: <34642EFE.4A@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 10:21:02 +0100 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [de]C-DT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: linux mips Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0381685071-0001@t-online.de (Storck, Michael) From: michaXrostock@t-online.de (Dr. Michael Storck) Content-Length: 1026 Lines: 22 Hey ! I am Michael from Germany. I own a second hand DECStation 5000 /200 with storage extension ( 2 hd with 360 and 620 MB) , a 8bit graphics frame buffer card and a dec 19 " color monitor (unfortunately the previous owner configuered the Xws X driver for monochrome graphics ... I suspect he had a greyscale monitor and the color monitor was bundled by the guy who sold me the station ...) I have compiled kernels on pc (x86) linux machines and I have even succeded in compiling a new kernel with cc under ultrix on the dec to be able to use an external cd rom... I do not have a lot of experience with programming (and even less time) but I would be willing to help with testing. I have the small hradware doc from dec that came with the station (on paper ..) but I do not have any ultrix doc... The machine runs ultrix 4.3 rev 44 boots from a KNOZ-AA boot prom Version 5.3t The disks are rz1 - RZ 55 rz2 - RZ 56 rz4 - CDROM (Toshiba) Dr. Michael Storck (aka michaXrostock) michaXrostock@t-online.de From budwiser@nmia.com Sun Nov 9 13:19:46 1997 Received: from socrates.nmia.com (socrates.nmia.com [198.59.166.170]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA29240; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:19:44 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:19:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from Pbudwiser(really [206.206.163.18]) by socrates.nmia.com via smail with smtp id for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 05:19:41 -0700 (MST) (Smail-3.2.0.95 1997-May-7 #5 built 1997-May-20) Message-ID: <3465A858.6A2C@nmia.com> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 05:11:04 -0700 From: "C.C." X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: mips box Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 90 Lines: 3 F.Y.I. I have a NEC RISCstation 2000 and RISCserver 2200. Chow, budwiser@nmia.com (Carl) From yodlowsk@alankay.nj.devry.edu Sat Nov 15 07:31:22 1997 Received: from alankay.nj.devry.edu (yodlowsk@alankay.nj.devry.edu [204.142.105.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA22867; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 07:31:21 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 07:31:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (yodlowsk@localhost) by alankay.nj.devry.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA27476 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:31:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:31:02 -0500 (EST) From: William Yodlowsky To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Precompiled kernels? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 270 Lines: 10 Hello, I was just wondering if there were any compiled kernels for Linux/MIPS available to download, or maybe a disk image I could rawrite to a floppy to try it out without having to build a cross compiler. Thanks in advance... --Bill From ryan@ravage.labs.gmu.edu Sun Nov 16 05:03:29 1997 Received: from ravage.labs.gmu.edu ([129.174.166.55]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA00861; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:03:29 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:03:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ravage.labs.gmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26028 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 23:05:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 23:05:16 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: no news == good news? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 751 Lines: 18 It seems there's been very little traffic on this list lately; I suppose school and work has us all busy. Anyway, I'm about to acquire a second MIPS machine soon -- a NeTpower box with an R4400 75mhz and some (apparently) custom boards - a SCSI controller and a Prograph 1280 24-bit video card. The problem may be that it will be difficult to find docs for the hardware. The video card manufacturer was a company called MediaVision, which has gone out of business (according to NeTpower tech support). If anyone knows anything about the NeTpower MIPS line, please do a cat brain > mail \ linux-mips@fnet.fr =). BTW, is anyone considering X support for the MIPS line? And how is the DECstation port progressing? Is mise le meas, Ryan Rafferty From cs973283@ariel.cs.yorku.ca Sun Nov 16 18:39:55 1997 Received: from basie.ariel.cs.yorku.ca (basie.ariel.cs.yorku.ca [130.63.104.37]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA04019; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:39:54 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:39:54 +0100 (MET) From: cs973283@ariel.cs.yorku.ca (Raffaele Abbate) Received: from [130.63.98.40] (ella.ariel.cs.yorku.ca) by basie.ariel.cs.yorku.ca id 26521; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:39:38 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:39:35 -0500 Message-Id: To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Content-Length: 1477 Lines: 32 I am running the Linux 2.0.30 on my PC, an Intel Pentium 133 Mhz. I am taking a course at University on the MIPS Architecture, we are studying the MIPS assembly language. We are using a spim simulator at school under Unix. We are also using the MS-Dos and Win ports of spim. I was looking for a spim simulator running under linux (my favorite OS) and I was very happy when I found it under Linux/ALPHA/mips/crossdev/spim.bin.tgz - Sunsite.unc.edu. It worked fine at the beginning when we were dealing only with integers and working on the CPU registers, but I am having problems with reals. In fact if I run the following program: .text .globl main main: addi $v0,$0,6 # v0 = 6 ready for read single syscall mfc1 $t0, $f12 # move content of f12 into t0 ..... now I truncate the real number and I print the integer part. jr $ra If I run it at home using Linux and I print the content of f12 with print I have always a zero in f12. By the way the result given by my program is always zero for any given input. The value of f12 never changes after the syscall. Instead if I run it at school using the spim under the Sun SPARC it works perfectly. There is something wrong in my opinion with the syscall and the register in COPROCESSOR 1 that is suppose to contain the real in input never gets it. Also the version of spim I am using is very old (1992). Do you happen to have a latest version. Looking forward to hearing from you, Thanking you in advance, > Raphael From ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Mon Nov 17 09:33:21 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA09388; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:33:19 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:33:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07823 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:33:16 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id JAA07497; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:33:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19971117093313.64840@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:33:13 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: no news == good news? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Ryan on Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 11:05:16PM -0500 Content-Length: 1359 Lines: 32 On Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 11:05:16PM -0500, Ryan wrote: > It seems there's been very little traffic on this list lately; I suppose > school and work has us all busy. It's also that the traffic of this small list has a bit moved to linux@engr.sgi.ocm. > Anyway, I'm about to acquire a second MIPS machine soon -- a NeTpower box > with an R4400 75mhz and some (apparently) custom boards - a SCSI > controller and a Prograph 1280 24-bit video card. The problem may be that > it will be difficult to find docs for the hardware. The video card If I remember right the SCSI of the box is the normal NCR SCSI 53C9x hostadapter just like in the Mips Magnum 4000. > manufacturer was a company called MediaVision, which has gone out of > business (according to NeTpower tech support). If anyone knows anything > about the NeTpower MIPS line, please do a cat brain > mail \ > linux-mips@fnet.fr =). > > BTW, is anyone considering X support for the MIPS line? And how is the > DECstation port progressing? In fact there has even been worked on X support. We've got client libraries (I did the work, lost it on a disk crash and Miguel reimplemented it ... Thanks Miguel!) DECstation ... Sorry, no progress. I was hoping to get a set of docs into my fingers which would have got the DECstation guys back on the hacking track but so far not success ... Ralf From rfunk@peri.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon Nov 17 21:49:42 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA13690; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:49:42 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:49:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from nyssa.acs.ohio-state.edu (nyssa [128.146.116.4]) by peri.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA24684 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by nyssa.acs.ohio-state.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA00049; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:47:50 -0500 From: rfunk@peri.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Message-Id: <199711172047.PAA00049@nyssa.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: no news == good news? In-Reply-To: <19971117093313.64840@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de> from Ralf Baechle at "Nov 17, 97 09:33:13 am" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:47:50 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL34 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 836 Lines: 18 Ralf Baechle wrote: >On Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 11:05:16PM -0500, Ryan wrote: >> BTW, is anyone considering X support for the MIPS line? And how is the >> DECstation port progressing? > >DECstation ... Sorry, no progress. I was hoping to get a set of docs into >my fingers which would have got the DECstation guys back on the hacking >track but so far not success ... Is it time to go look at NetBSD-pmax code? They seem to be MUCH farther along on the DECstations. Could that be a partial substitute for DEC documentation? -- =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== "Why are you here? Snap out of it. | rfunk@peri.acs.ohio-state.edu Wake up. It's all illusions." | rfunk@marvin.uts.ohio-state.edu "I LIKE THE MOVIE" -- Richard Bach |http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From ralf@hotel.uni-koblenz.de Tue Nov 18 02:52:16 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA16872; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 02:52:12 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 02:52:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from hotel.uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.10]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA03106 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 02:52:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by hotel.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA19014; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 02:47:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19971118024742.46604@hotel.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 02:47:42 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: no news == good news? References: <19971117093313.64840@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de> <199711172047.PAA00049@nyssa.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <199711172047.PAA00049@nyssa.acs.ohio-state.edu>; from Rob Funk on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 03:47:50PM -0500 Content-Length: 708 Lines: 19 On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 03:47:50PM -0500, Rob Funk wrote: > Ralf Baechle wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 11:05:16PM -0500, Ryan wrote: > >> BTW, is anyone considering X support for the MIPS line? And how is the > >> DECstation port progressing? > > > >DECstation ... Sorry, no progress. I was hoping to get a set of docs into > >my fingers which would have got the DECstation guys back on the hacking > >track but so far not success ... > > Is it time to go look at NetBSD-pmax code? They seem to be MUCH > farther along on the DECstations. Could that be a partial substitute > for DEC documentation? With certain limitations, yes. NetBSD does not support the entire line of DEC machines. Ralf From hbernal@isep.mxl.cetys.mx Wed Nov 19 22:07:42 1997 Received: from isep.mxl.cetys.mx (root@isep.mxl.cetys.mx [158.122.12.10]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA01513; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:07:39 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:07:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from [158.122.12.103] ([158.122.12.103]) by isep.mxl.cetys.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20862 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:20:14 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: isep.mxl.cetys.mx: [158.122.12.103] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <347355D8.698D@isep.mxl.cetys.mx> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:10:48 -0800 From: "Hector M. Bernal" Reply-To: hbernal@isep.mxl.cetys.mx Organization: ISEP X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Machine Caracteristics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 105 Lines: 7 Prime Model: M/2000/LG33 MIPSRC3360 i have 2 Hard Drives only Tape to Input new systems Ethernet Card From deviant@unixnet.org Thu Nov 20 00:25:57 1997 Received: from slartibartfast.sp.org (qmailr@user-38lc56j.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.20.211]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA03016; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:25:55 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:25:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 392 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1997 23:25:49 -0000 Received: from slartibartfast.sp.org (deviant@10.9.8.2) by slartibartfast.sp.org with SMTP; 19 Nov 1997 23:25:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:25:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter X-Sender: deviant@slartibartfast.sp.org Reply-To: deviant@unixnet.org To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Questions about driver possibilites... In-Reply-To: <347355D8.698D@isep.mxl.cetys.mx> Message-ID: Organization: bogosort X-PGP-Fingerprint: 49 86 8A 89 66 2A F7 F7 77 7E 81 3E D6 4E AA CE X-PGP-KeyID: 4920E659 X-PGP-Date: 1997-06-08 X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: of course not X-Get-A-Newsreader: distribution: bofh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 447 Lines: 13 Later in the kernel's life, is there planning on being any support for the ISDN system on the DECStation/5000's motherboard? I would personally like to see this happen, because a 25MHz machine might not do much, but it could make a very nice router... -- Peter PGP KeyID = 4920E659 Fingerprint = 49868A89662AF7F7 777E813ED64EAACE They say the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. If my intentions are bad, will I get into Heaven? From rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu Thu Nov 20 18:43:34 1997 Received: from osf1.gmu.edu (osf1.gmu.edu [129.174.1.13]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA09673; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:43:19 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:43:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by osf1.gmu.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA27422; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:42:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:42:40 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Rafferty Reply-To: Ryan Rafferty To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: NeTpower machine In-Reply-To: <19971117093313.64840@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 741 Lines: 18 I'm probably going to buy this box, but since my family would prefer if I didn't get yet another computer =), I'd like to let someone else have a chance at it if he/she wants it more than I do. A man named Gary Jesswein is selling his NeTpower 75mhz r4400 box -- $100 for the motherboard, SCSI card, and 24-bit video card; or, about $175 for the motherboard, SCSI card, and 24-bit video card in the original case, and a floppy and 2x SCSI cd-rom. (note, that was the deal Gary offered me--$175 for the whole kaboodle with shipping included; he'll probably offer the same to anyone else) Please let me know if anyone wants this machine--if anyone does, I plan to buy a Matrox card instead and work on the GGI project =). Ryan Rafferty From emu@ecubics.com Fri Nov 21 04:05:50 1997 Received: from jefferson.gte.net (jefferson.gte.net [207.115.146.253]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA14423; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:05:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:05:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub.gte.net ([206.124.88.13]) by jefferson.gte.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA681 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:02:32 -0600 Received: from emusp6 ([153.36.240.183]) by mailhub.gte.net (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA250 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:05:43 -0600 From: "emanuel stiebler" To: Subject: mailinglist Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:13:59 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19971121030542391.AAA250@emusp6> Content-Length: 338 Lines: 11 how to join it ? I'm interrested to join the "Kernel-Club" also. Few years ago, i developed MIPS-based X-Terminals. cheers, emanuel. P.S. I have a decstation 5000/133, 48 MByte DRAM, 1 445MByte Disk Ultrix 4.3a (ver.44), 1 1GByte Disk NetBSD 1.3alpha, 1 3 GByte Disk Spare/Data trying to get as next a decstation 5000/200 or better. From jpark@netscape.com Fri Nov 21 05:13:50 1997 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA14715; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:13:47 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:13:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12615 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([207.1.136.43]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA23627 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:13:06 -0800 Message-ID: <34750BAD.A8A226C5@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:18:53 -0800 From: jpark@netscape.com (Jerome Park) Organization: Netscape Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-NSCP (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: NEC RiscStation 2200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 317 Lines: 15 Greetings, I found your web site on Linux-MIPS. However, it doesn't look like my MIPS hardware is supported yet. Can you give me pointers on the current state of the project? I have a NEC RiscStation 2200 dual CPU box that I'd like to get Linux running on. Thanks for any info... Regards, Jerome From jcoombes@cs.newcastle.edu.au Sat Nov 22 23:35:09 1997 Received: from lily.newcastle.edu.au (jcoombes@lily.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.96.116]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA09548; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:35:06 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:35:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jcoombes@localhost) by lily.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) id JAA16250; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:34:57 +1100 (EST) From: Jonathon Coombes Message-Id: <199711222234.JAA16250@lily.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: DECStation 5000/133 System To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:34:57 +1100 (EST) Cc: jcoombes@lily.newcastle.edu.au (Jonathon Coombes) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 624 Lines: 26 Hi, I have just aquired a DECStation 5000/133 and I would like to run linux on it. I am interested in developing software for the system, but I need a bit of help in getting it going. Here is the basic system as far as I can work it out: DECStation 5000/133 - R3000 CPU - 32(?) MB RAM - SCSI HDD - Ethernet port (AUI) - External SCSI Port - 2 Other ports - 21" RGB Monitor Storage Module - Tape Unit - SCSI HDD - 2 External SCSI Connectors I would be interested in any help you could offer in getting it going, as I would be interested in seeing linux on such a system. Regards, Jonathon From jcoombes@cs.newcastle.edu.au Mon Nov 24 01:01:10 1997 Received: from lily.newcastle.edu.au (jcoombes@lily.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.96.116]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA20289; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:01:07 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:01:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jcoombes@localhost) by lily.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) id LAA02330 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:01:01 +1100 (EST) From: Jonathon Coombes Message-Id: <199711240001.LAA02330@lily.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: DECStation 5000 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:01:01 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 482 Lines: 14 > > Bad news, Linux/MIPS doesn't yet support the DECstation series to > a degree that would make them useable. > > Ralf So what is the kernel code and archive programs for and how are they used? >From what I could find on the net, there seemed to be a degree of support, not to a level similar to others, but still a usuable system. Is this not the case? What about Paul(?) from Softway in Australia who was working on the DECStations, is he still around? Regards, Jonathon From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 02:15:25 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA20713; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:15:24 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:15:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.26]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25349 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:15:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA10144; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:12:09 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124021209.16856@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:12:09 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: New development tools uploaded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Content-Length: 1227 Lines: 34 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded new patches for the development tools to ftp.linux.sgi.com and ftp.fnet.fr. - binutils-2.8.1-1 This is the first Linux/MIPS version of the tools based on binutils 2.8.1. The upgrade is mandatory if you want to be able to correctly build shared libraries. The old binutils 2.7 based linker had the bug that it would link the entire static libc into a shared library image when the library was linked against libc (-lc) resulting in a unuseable, huge shared library image and a large number of warnings. - gcc-2.7.2-7.diff.gz This release fixes a minor bug in the specs file. Older GCC versions were linking useless object files into all shared libraries resulting in slightly larger object files. Ralf f55e50c1583a9551004fb28efbc71f82 binutils-2.8.1-1.diff.gz e70231058065d5be40e668b5cb601bb6 gcc-2.7.2-7.diff.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNHjUFUckbl6vezDBAQFDjAP7BqaR0RGPnh1AmRSA04/gX4utubgcZYP6 auyx1hoK3yCax72P64J7WD8z/41Nshyi5ehBu9yk4JUKwBaTTErF8NbcY+zTR5v0 lhb0o8DkUR0WA0NxD/YGVdHqBgz9eKJlDUSkTanBItitVBbbhaUGREjmJsFedt0K 0YtqmfD0WeY= =gBCX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au Mon Nov 24 04:28:53 1997 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (root@note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA21347; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:28:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:28:50 +0100 (MET) Received: From ives With LocalMail ; Mon, 24 Nov 97 13:18:53 +1100 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:18:52 +1100 (EST) X-Sender: andrewo@ives.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au Subject: Info on joining this mailing list pls Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 25 My name is Andrew O'Brien and I'm currently a fourth year student at the University of New South Wales, Australia. Over the summer break, I'll be working on a port of Linux to a (yet to be specifically decided) R4x00 architecture, with the ultimate aim of further porting the MIPS Linux source to run within Mungi - a single address space operating system running on top of the L4 microkernel. More details at: http://www.cse.unsw.EDU.AU/docs/research/index.html if anyone is interested. If you could add me to this mailing list, that would be great, as I'm sure I'll be making use of every resource I can lay my hands on in this project. Hmmm - (badly ;) paid kernel hacking: what more could you ask for ? ;) Thanks ___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \_____ finger andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au for my current location ______/ From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 05:48:50 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA21715; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:48:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:48:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-02.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.2]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00129 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:48:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA11347; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:45:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124054518.62045@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:45:18 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: binutils rpm package Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Content-Length: 590 Lines: 22 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded little endian native binaries and a source rpm package of binutils-2.8.1-1 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. Ralf f234b72cc2982ec4e2d88db6d700b3b5 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNHkF/0ckbl6vezDBAQGXDwQAqyx9LVsB6tFVpBrvy4IA+RnUnjDjn0t8 Xq66Uj2uZhfqB/MH+zgA2VJP4hnd/nuh9PHiRkaOv3sFrKfL7CF7rAQqbQteX3wM xju4Mg5uuRq/0TN43la55Pu6zL8gf/NsvNFEJOsBjuJr7Fn573EjCvH6zTIWc0N7 fw9NSRhQvbE= =mgTZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Mon Nov 24 13:11:58 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA23547; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:11:56 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:11:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA23864; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:06:22 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xZxFA-0005FsC; Mon, 24 Nov 97 12:04 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Announce: binutils rpm package To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971124054518.62045@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Nov 24, 97 05:45:18 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 302 Lines: 9 > I've uploaded little endian native binaries and a source rpm package > of binutils-2.8.1-1 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > Ralf > > f234b72cc2982ec4e2d88db6d700b3b5 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm > d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm The SRPM appears corrupt - its about 1Meg short From Gilles.Gravier@Swiss.Sun.COM Mon Nov 24 13:37:18 1997 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA24120; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:37:16 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:37:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from Swiss.Sun.COM ([129.156.124.1]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id EAA13287 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:36:30 -0800 Received: from ge-master by Swiss.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-sd.fkk200) id NAA14478; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:36:25 +0100 Received: from ge-home by ge-master (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-se.fkk202) id NAA00910; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:36:22 +0100 Received: from Swiss.Sun.COM by ge-home (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-su.fkk203) id NAA24264; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:36:20 +0100 Message-ID: <347974F3.D9971FF9@Swiss.Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:37:07 +0100 From: Gilles Gravier - IEC - Technical Consultant Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Leaving the list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1384 Lines: 29 Hello everybody! Well, after 3 years of following the activities of the group, I have to leave you all, because of lack of time to participate in the project anymore. My good old RC3230 has now gone away to other horizons... Please, remove me from the list. The address I should be marked with is: Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM . I have now changed location, so I'm not at the exact same address anymore. Thanks again all for the fun 3 years of following the Linux/MIPS project! Good hacking to you all! May the source be with you! Gilles Gravier. -- /------------+-----------------------------------------------------\ | /\ | Gilles Gravier | | \\ \ | Technical Consultant - Internet & Java Technologies | | \ \\ / | Sun Microsystems | | / \/ / / | International Enterprise Center | | / / \//\ | 2, rue de Jargonnant | | \//\ / / | CH-1207 Geneva | | / / /\ / | Switzerland | | / \\ \ | Email: Gilles.Gravier@Swiss.Sun.COM | | \ \\ | Phone: +41-(22)-707-7856 | | \/ | Fax: +41-(22)-707-7888 | \------------+-----------------------------------------------------/ From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 14:07:58 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA24287; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:07:50 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:07:50 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-17.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.17]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27475 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:07:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14274; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:04:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124140410.46777@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:04:10 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Leaving the list References: <347974F3.D9971FF9@Swiss.Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <347974F3.D9971FF9@Swiss.Sun.COM>; from Gilles Gravier - IEC - Technical Consultant on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 01:37:07PM +0100 Content-Length: 835 Lines: 20 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 01:37:07PM +0100, Gilles Gravier - IEC - Technical Consultant wrote: > Hello everybody! > > Well, after 3 years of following the activities of the group, I have > to leave you all, because of lack of time to participate in the > project anymore. My good old RC3230 has now gone away to other > horizons... > > Please, remove me from the list. The address I should be marked > with is: Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM . I have now changed > location, so I'm not at the exact same address anymore. > > Thanks again all for the fun 3 years of following the Linux/MIPS > project! Good hacking to you all! May the source be with you! You should be able to unsubscribe from linux-mips by sending email to linux-mips-request@fnet.fr, the list is served by smartlist. Only subscription is handled by a human. Ralf From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 15:49:54 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA25261; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:49:51 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:49:51 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00931 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:55:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14335; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:18:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:18:04 +0100 To: Alan Cox Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <19971124120549.01585@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 11:30:41AM +0000 Content-Length: 1655 Lines: 39 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 11:30:41AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > With luck it'll also fix the rpm-2.4.8 core dump bug which seems to be > > > bad linking. > > > > My rpm has never dumped core but it was complaining about nonexisting > > users while creating the binary rpm file even though the user was > > existing thus failing to build. That rpm problem is fixed. > > Yep thats the bug - I also got some crashes. It was caused by getpw* failing > in peculiar ways. My RPM binary has its own For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even without a buggy dynamic linker. > > All the source RPM packages on linus are known to build and work for > > little endian targets. Some of them, for example ncompress, have special > > modifications to support big endian targets. > > Im actually trying to build a full RedHat 5.0 by early December so Im picking > up your changes to stuff like bash indirectly via redhat on the whole. I can > then merge anything that escaped and together we can make sure they are in > RH5.1. Ok. I stopped communicating with the Redhat guys shortly before I left the US. Essentially they received a part of the patches that I don't classify as ugly hacks or work in progress. Some more packages like the binutils, gcc or libc are based on different versions and we should try to base our work on the same versions as Redhat does. > Obviously as of about Dec1 the amount of answers I can get from RedHat will > noise dive for a couple of months :-) Ralf From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 15:50:08 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA25319; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:50:02 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:50:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00938 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:55:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14380; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:29:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124142928.47050@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:29:28 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alan Cox , linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Announce: binutils rpm package References: <19971124054518.62045@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 12:04:00PM +0000 Content-Length: 5909 Lines: 203 --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 12:04:00PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > I've uploaded little endian native binaries and a source rpm package > > of binutils-2.8.1-1 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > > > Ralf > > > > f234b72cc2982ec4e2d88db6d700b3b5 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm > > d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm > > The SRPM appears corrupt - its about 1Meg short Thanks, I'll try to upload it as a single part later the day when phone fees are reasonable insane[*]. So long if you want to rebuild the package for the Indy, you can use the attached spec file and patch (identical to the one on Linus) plus the binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz file from Redhat's binutils-2.8.1-1 package. (binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz should be the FSF version.) Ralf *: Sorry, Ron ... --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="binutils-2.8.1-mips.patch" diff -urN binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/ChangeLog binutils-2.8.1/gas/ChangeLog --- binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/ChangeLog Mon May 26 10:32:45 1997 +++ binutils-2.8.1/gas/ChangeLog Tue Oct 21 03:32:24 1997 @@ -1,3 +1,10 @@ +Tue Oct 21 03:23:59 1997 Ralf Baechle + + * config/tc-mips.c (macro): Only emit a BFD_RELOC_MIPS_LITERAL + when the symbol is in the .lit section. Required for a.out + support. + (mips_ip): Fix %HI, %hi and %lo operators. + Mon May 26 13:24:25 1997 Ian Lance Taylor * doc/as.texinfo: Don't use @value in section names or index diff -urN binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/config/tc-mips.c binutils-2.8.1/gas/config/tc-mips.c --- binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/config/tc-mips.c Mon May 26 10:32:40 1997 +++ binutils-2.8.1/gas/config/tc-mips.c Tue Oct 21 03:22:48 1997 @@ -4863,13 +4863,22 @@ else { assert (offset_expr.X_op == O_symbol - && strcmp (segment_name (S_GET_SEGMENT - (offset_expr.X_add_symbol)), - ".lit4") == 0 && offset_expr.X_add_number == 0); - macro_build ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, "lwc1", "T,o(b)", - treg, (int) BFD_RELOC_MIPS_LITERAL, GP); - return; + s = segment_name (S_GET_SEGMENT (offset_expr.X_add_symbol)); + if (strcmp (s, ".lit4") == 0) + { + macro_build ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, "lwc1", "T,o(b)", + treg, (int) BFD_RELOC_MIPS_LITERAL, GP); + return; + } + else + { + /* FIXME: This won't work for a 64 bit address. */ + macro_build_lui ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, AT); + macro_build ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, "lwc1", "T,o(b)", + treg, (int) BFD_RELOC_LO16, AT); + return; + } } case M_LI_D: @@ -6965,11 +6974,23 @@ c = my_getSmallExpression (&imm_expr, s); if (c != '\0') { - if (c != 'l') + if (c == 'l') + { + if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant) + { + imm_expr.X_add_number &= 0xffff; + imm_reloc = BFD_RELOC_LO16; + } + } + else { if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant) - imm_expr.X_add_number = - (imm_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + { + if (c == 'h' && (imm_expr.X_add_number & 0x8000)) + imm_expr.X_add_number += 0x1000; + imm_expr.X_add_number = + (imm_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + } else if (c == 'h') { imm_reloc = BFD_RELOC_HI16_S; @@ -7064,11 +7085,22 @@ break; offset_reloc = BFD_RELOC_LO16; - if (c == 'h' || c == 'H') + if (c) { - assert (offset_expr.X_op == O_constant); - offset_expr.X_add_number = - (offset_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + if (c != 'l') + { + if (offset_expr.X_op == O_constant) + { + if (c == 'h' && (offset_expr.X_add_number & 0x8000)) + offset_expr.X_add_number += 0x1000; + offset_expr.X_add_number = + (offset_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + } + else if (c == 'h') + offset_reloc = BFD_RELOC_HI16_S; + else + offset_reloc = BFD_RELOC_HI16; + } } s = expr_end; continue; @@ -7081,10 +7113,13 @@ case 'u': /* upper 16 bits */ c = my_getSmallExpression (&imm_expr, s); - if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant - && (imm_expr.X_add_number < 0 - || imm_expr.X_add_number >= 0x10000)) - as_bad ("lui expression not in range 0..65535"); + if (!c) + { + if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant + && (imm_expr.X_add_number < 0 + || imm_expr.X_add_number >= 0x10000)) + as_bad ("lui expression not in range 0..65535"); + } imm_reloc = BFD_RELOC_LO16; if (c) { --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="binutils-2.8.1.spec" Summary: GNU Binary Utility Development Utilities Name: binutils Version: 2.8.1 Release: 1 Copyright: GPL Group: Development/Tools Source: ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz Patch: binutils-2.8.1-mips.patch BuildRoot: /tmp/binutils-root %description binutils is a collection of utilities necessary for compiling programs. It includes the assembler and linker, as well as a number of other miscellaneous programs for dealing with executable formats. %prep %setup %patch -p1 %build ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared make tooldir=/usr make tooldir=/usr info %install rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr make tooldir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr prefix=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr install install-info strip $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/bin/* gzip -q9f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/info/*.info* # Get rid of that arch-specific directory rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib/bin install -m 644 libiberty/libiberty.a $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib install -m 644 include/libiberty.h $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/include %post -p /sbin/ldconfig %postun -p /sbin/ldconfig %files %doc README /usr/bin/* /usr/man/man1/* /usr/include/* /usr/lib/* /usr/info* --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx-- From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 15:49:59 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA25275; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:49:56 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:49:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00877 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:54:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14473; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:49:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124144942.55920@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:49:42 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: R4600 fun ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Content-Length: 2197 Lines: 65 Hi, I've found a problem with the cacheflush routines in the kernel. The following routine from arch/mips/mm/r4xx0.c: static void r4k_flush_cache_sigtramp(unsigned long addr) { addr &= ~(dc_lsize - 1); /* These nops handle a processor errata in the R4600 silicon */ __asm__ __volatile__("nop;nop;nop;nop"); protected_writeback_dcache_line(addr); protected_writeback_dcache_line(addr + dc_lsize); protected_flush_icache_line(addr); protected_flush_icache_line(addr + dc_lsize); } which is being compiled into the following assembler code: 0000d5a0 lui $v1,0x0 0000d5a4 lw $v1,12($v1) 0000d5a8 negu $v0,$v1 0000d5ac and $a0,$a0,$v0 ... 0000d5c0 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($a0) 0000d5c4 addu $v1,$a0,$v1 0000d5c8 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($v1) 0000d5cc cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($a0) 0000d5d0 cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($v1) 0000d5d4 jr $ra ... ... is called by setup_frame() in arch/mips/kernel/signal.c when setting up a signal frame: [...] /* * Set up the return code ... * * .set noreorder * addiu sp,0x20 * li v0,__NR_sigreturn * syscall * .set reorder */ __put_user(0x27bd0000 + scc_offset, &frame->code[0]); __put_user(0x24020000 + __NR_sigreturn, &frame->code[1]); __put_user(0x0000000c, &frame->code[2]); /* * Flush caches so that the instructions will be correctly executed. * (flush_cache_sigtramp is a function pointer) */ flush_cache_sigtramp((unsigned long) frame->code); [...] Unless I've got tomatoes of the size of a space ship on my eyes these cache flushes do the right thing in order to guarantee the coherence of Icache with the Dcache. Nevertheless when executing the code on a R4600 v2.0 I get illegal instruction exceptions for the instructions on the stack. The other MIPS processors seem not to have any problem with this code. Silicon problem? Anybody seen this before? Ralf From alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Mon Nov 24 15:49:49 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA25248; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:49:45 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:49:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA26414; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:11:36 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xZzCL-0005FsC; Mon, 24 Nov 97 14:09 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Libc in CVS To: ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:09:12 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de" at Nov 24, 97 02:18:04 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 831 Lines: 21 > For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. > Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good > idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even > without a buggy dynamic linker. Static rpm 2.4.8 +fixes works Dynamic 2.4.8 crashes on startup every time > Ok. I stopped communicating with the Redhat guys shortly before I left the > US. Essentially they received a part of the patches that I don't classify > as ugly hacks or work in progress. No problem > Some more packages like the binutils, gcc or libc are based on different > versions and we should try to base our work on the same versions as Redhat > does. Right now Ive got chunks of bastardised 4.8 (eg with -O not -O2 to avoid gcc blowing up on zsh) but hopefully I can knock those out over time From Gilles.Gravier@Swiss.Sun.COM Mon Nov 24 15:30:25 1997 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA25147; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:30:23 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:30:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from Swiss.Sun.COM ([129.156.124.1]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id GAA26651 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:29:49 -0800 Received: from ge-master by Swiss.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-sd.fkk200) id PAA19010; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:29:40 +0100 Received: from ge-home by ge-master (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-se.fkk202) id PAA01684; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:29:37 +0100 Received: from Swiss.Sun.COM by ge-home (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-su.fkk203) id PAA25272; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:29:36 +0100 Message-ID: <34798F7D.6AADC8B8@Swiss.Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:30:21 +0100 From: Gilles Gravier - IEC - Technical Consultant Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Leaving the list References: <347974F3.D9971FF9@Swiss.Sun.COM> <19971124140410.46777@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1869 Lines: 45 Thanks. I have just done that... so we will see if it works! (I should not see this message in my mailbox). Cheers, Gilles. ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 01:37:07PM +0100, Gilles Gravier - IEC - Technical Consultant wrote: > > Hello everybody! > > > > Well, after 3 years of following the activities of the group, I have > > to leave you all, because of lack of time to participate in the > > project anymore. My good old RC3230 has now gone away to other > > horizons... > > > > Please, remove me from the list. The address I should be marked > > with is: Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM . I have now changed > > location, so I'm not at the exact same address anymore. > > > > Thanks again all for the fun 3 years of following the Linux/MIPS > > project! Good hacking to you all! May the source be with you! > > You should be able to unsubscribe from linux-mips by sending email > to linux-mips-request@fnet.fr, the list is served by smartlist. > Only subscription is handled by a human. > > Ralf -- /------------+-----------------------------------------------------\ | /\ | Gilles Gravier | | \\ \ | Technical Consultant - Internet & Java Technologies | | \ \\ / | Sun Microsystems | | / \/ / / | International Enterprise Center | | / / \//\ | 2, rue de Jargonnant | | \//\ / / | CH-1207 Geneva | | / / /\ / | Switzerland | | / \\ \ | Email: Gilles.Gravier@Swiss.Sun.COM | | \ \\ | Phone: +41-(22)-707-7856 | | \/ | Fax: +41-(22)-707-7888 | \------------+-----------------------------------------------------/ From ewt@redhat.com Mon Nov 24 16:55:55 1997 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (ewt@lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA26293; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:55:48 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:55:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08711; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: linux-mips@fnet.fr cc: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS In-Reply-To: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 888 Lines: 18 On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de wrote: > For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. > Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good > idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even > without a buggy dynamic linker. A static RPM has saved my ass *many* times, and it would irresponsible for us not to ship it static. Glibc ought to be able to generate static binaries. If it can't, it's broken. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "For the next two hours, VH1 will be filled with foul-mouthed, | | crossdressing Australians. Viewer discretion is advised." | | | | Erik Troan = ewt@redhat.com = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu | From 9951126@columbo.hvu.nl Mon Nov 24 20:00:42 1997 Received: from columbo.hvu.nl (columbo.hvu.nl [145.89.50.200]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA27781; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:00:41 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:00:41 +0100 (MET) From: 9951126@columbo.hvu.nl Received: from svc125 ([145.89.88.225]) by columbo.hvu.nl (PMDF V5.1-10 #22841) with SMTP id <0EK500CEAV0QOA@columbo.hvu.nl> for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:24:26 -0100 (GMT) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:19:02 +0000 Subject: I have a DECStation 5000/200... Any kernels to test? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Message-id: <0EK500CEBV0QOA@columbo.hvu.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Comments: Authenticated sender is <9951126@columbo.hvu.nl> Content-Length: 465 Lines: 13 Hi there, At school we have an ancient DECStation 5000/200, which is running Ultrix. At the moment I'm the one to save the asses of the ones responsible for the machine, and now I'd like to do that in style: Linux!. Anyway, is there a kernel availlable for me to test? If so, there is no floppydisk, so I'd like to use Either a SCSI-Jazz, or an old RZ25 SCSI-disk that we can spare. Any tips would be much appreciated. I hope to hear from you. Gaby Schilders From Maximilian.Rechenberg@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Mon Nov 24 17:14:23 1997 Received: from revenue.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@revenue.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.231.161]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA26471; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:14:17 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:14:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from roehre.trafo.tep.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (trafo.tep.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.194.200]) by revenue.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA12249 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:13:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3479B5C6.365A@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:13:42 +0100 From: Max Rechenberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: link not existing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 464 Lines: 14 Hey, The link to DEC-Mips http://www.softway.com.au/people/paul/dec/ isnīt existing any more. Is it possible to get infos for Linux on DECstation anywere else. best regards, MR -- -***************************************************** * Max Rechenberg * * email:mxr@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de * * send via FSEI->exeikon * +***************************************************** From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Nov 24 19:03:00 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA27443; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:02:57 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:02:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18027 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:02:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02601; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124181631.64922@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:16:31 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: ewt@redhat.com, Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Erik Troan on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 10:55:25AM -0500 Content-Length: 1572 Lines: 38 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 10:55:25AM -0500, Erik Troan wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de wrote: > > For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. > > Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good > > idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even > > without a buggy dynamic linker. > > A static RPM has saved my ass *many* times, and it would irresponsible > for us not to ship it static. I'm not arguing against static binaries because we've got a bug in the libs. - static binaries contain syscalls and therefore make it very difficult, if not impossible to modify the kernel interfaces. The SVID btw., explicitly forbids embedding syscalls into ABI compliant binaries. While SVID compliance is not directly mandatory for Linux, binary compatibility issues with IRIX (or Solaris or ...) etc. might somewhen enforce modifications to the syscall interface resulting in broken static binaries. - many static binaries will use dlopen() to load _shared_ libraries under certain circumstances. Rpm is just one of them. For example try with your static rpm rm -f /lib/*.so* rpm --install ftp://ftp.whitehat.org/libc-2.0.5-.rpm Won't work, because you don't have your shared libc and libnss anymore ... I admit that this type of desaster recovery was nicer with Linux libc which doesn't do the dlopen() thing. > Glibc ought to be able to generate static binaries. If it can't, it's broken. Yes, and the bugs have been fixed. Ralf From wje@fir.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 19:49:38 1997 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA27641; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:49:35 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:49:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA12367; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:49:24 -0800 env-from (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA28354; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:57 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA16089; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199711241845.KAA16089@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: R4600 fun ... In-Reply-To: <19971124144942.55920@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> References: <19971124144942.55920@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Content-Length: 2556 Lines: 49 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: ... > 0000d5c0 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($a0) > 0000d5c4 addu $v1,$a0,$v1 > 0000d5c8 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($v1) > 0000d5cc cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($a0) > 0000d5d0 cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($v1) > 0000d5d4 jr $ra ... > Unless I've got tomatoes of the size of a space ship on my eyes these > cache flushes do the right thing in order to guarantee the coherence > of Icache with the Dcache. Nevertheless when executing the code on a > R4600 v2.0 I get illegal instruction exceptions for the instructions > on the stack. The other MIPS processors seem not to have any problem > with this code. > > Silicon problem? Anybody seen this before? This is a known R4600 Rev. 2.0 bug. From the R4600 errata list: 3. The CACHE instructions Hit_Writeback_Invalidate_D, Hit_Writeback_D, Hit_Invalidate_D, and Create_Dirty_Exclusive_D will only operate correctly if the internal data cache refill buffer is empty. These cache instructions should separated from any potential data cache miss by a load instruction to an uncached address to empty the response buffer. A brute-force workaround for this is to do the load instruction to an uncached address (such as a memory controller register) before the cache invalidation code, and to also do such a load instruction just before every eret. Alternately, one could put enough nop instructions in front of every eret to allow time for the refill buffer to empty. The latter is what I did on Indy, where 12 cycles are needed to allow the refill buffer to empty in the worst case. I arranged to replace every eret with a labelled jump to a patch area (with a nop in the jump delay slot), where the patch area was 8 nop instructions and an eret. I had a table of the jump addresses, and, at startup time on a CPU other than an R4600 Rev. 2.0, I patched the jump instructions to eret instructions, so only the R4600 Rev. 2.0 paid the penalty. Yet another alternative would be to disable interrupts around the cacheops, probe the tlb to be sure a TLB miss could not occur during the cacheop, pad 12 nop instructions after the probe, do the cacheops, and enable interrupts. (If the TLB probe fails, enable interrupts, do a load from the first address, and retry from the beginning.) From davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com Mon Nov 24 22:54:20 1997 Received: from dm.cobaltmicro.com (davem@[209.19.61.51]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA29389; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:54:19 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:54:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (from davem@localhost) by dm.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00677; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:35:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:35:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199711242135.NAA00677@dm.cobaltmicro.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: ewt@redhat.com CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Erik Troan on Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: Content-Length: 549 Lines: 15 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan A static RPM has saved my ass *many* times, and it would irresponsible for us not to ship it static. Glibc ought to be able to generate static binaries. If it can't, it's broken. That was a nice thing back in the pre-glibc days. But since so many static binaries (including RPM) pull in the NIS stuff dynamically via dlopen() due to how GLIBC works, your ass will no longer get saved the way it used to. Later, David S. Miller davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com From ewt@redhat.com Mon Nov 24 22:58:27 1997 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (ewt@lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA29466; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:58:26 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:58:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA27888; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:58:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:58:22 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: "David S. Miller" cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS In-Reply-To: <199711242135.NAA00677@dm.cobaltmicro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 925 Lines: 19 On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, David S. Miller wrote: > That was a nice thing back in the pre-glibc days. But since so many > static binaries (including RPM) pull in the NIS stuff dynamically via > dlopen() due to how GLIBC works, your ass will no longer get saved the > way it used to. At least you can install the packages though. At the very worst, getpwnam() will fail and RPM will use root.root for all of the files, but at least they will be there. That's surely better then not being able to install packages at all. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "For the next two hours, VH1 will be filled with foul-mouthed, | | crossdressing Australians. Viewer discretion is advised." | | | | Erik Troan = ewt@redhat.com = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu | From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Nov 25 00:25:59 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA01332; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:25:58 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:25:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02110 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:25:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA07414; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:22:31 +0100 Message-ID: <19971125002231.49580@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:22:31 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: "David S. Miller" , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <199711242135.NAA00677@dm.cobaltmicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Erik Troan on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 04:58:22PM -0500 Content-Length: 874 Lines: 19 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 04:58:22PM -0500, Erik Troan wrote: > > That was a nice thing back in the pre-glibc days. But since so many > > static binaries (including RPM) pull in the NIS stuff dynamically via > > dlopen() due to how GLIBC works, your ass will no longer get saved the > > way it used to. > > At least you can install the packages though. At the very worst, > getpwnam() will fail and RPM will use root.root for all of the files, > but at least they will be there. That's surely better then not being > able to install packages at all. I just checked mount(8), it's a shared binary. I guess only the fewest Redhat installations it is possible to access the packages without using nss services or mount. Aside, if everything gets installed as root.root in absence of the nss functionality this open a theoretical security problem for some packages. Ralf From ewt@redhat.com Tue Nov 25 00:38:43 1997 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (ewt@lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA02542; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:38:41 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:38:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00387 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:38:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:38:39 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Libc in CVS In-Reply-To: <19971125002231.49580@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 895 Lines: 19 On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Aside, if everything gets installed as root.root in absence of the nss > functionality this open a theoretical security problem for some packages. If your system isn't working, security is probably the last thing on your mind. RPM's --setugids option would close any resultant hole quite quickly (rpm --setugids -a will reset the owner and group of all the RPM-owned files on a systemm). The -shared option not working is simply a bug. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "For the next two hours, VH1 will be filled with foul-mouthed, | | crossdressing Australians. Viewer discretion is advised." | | | | Erik Troan = ewt@redhat.com = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu | From ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Nov 25 02:14:22 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA03274; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:14:20 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:14:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14276 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:14:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA08193; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: <19971125021040.03395@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:10:40 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: GCC RPMs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Content-Length: 867 Lines: 27 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded source and little endian binary rpms of GCC 2.7.2 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm replaces the truncated file that was online. Both packages are based on the patches I announced yesterday. Ralf d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm 087d1c5f21e4d7dbeb0acd944fc92e40 gcc-2.7.2-1.mips.rpm c15a2d77386f785c8a4914a409105d41 gcc-2.7.2-1.src.rpm d8846cdfc431ef940e9a1fdc97e0423a gcc-c++-2.7.2-1.mips.rpm d0c930def3e322040da84a1270480bb9 gcc-objc-2.7.2-1.mips.rpm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNHolbEckbl6vezDBAQGZZwQAq5KEp+wKjhKjO28PcqzPA5YaPJFHYHwC vMN4e0MONsQ/xfPva+KzA/qAqJKGjvEx7ppV6XdNBF5HAxbXje5Soz550yJyb0nV 95Qz8Tr0tsuIb+W0HItwQwhrxPWZjhnVCcWQZQhP3T2XnChyFD9wOouwSYYpJhjh 2Tc9g/de/Vs= =pQiE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mshar@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR Tue Nov 25 16:52:08 1997 Received: from ROSE.IPM.AC.IR ([194.225.70.70]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA10734; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:51:27 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:51:27 +0100 (MET) From: mshar@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR Received: by ROSE.IPM.AC.IR (MX V4.1 VAX) id 494; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:57:47 +0330 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:57:45 +0330 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Message-ID: <009BDD3A.F3C27200.494@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR> Subject: DIPC (Distributed IPC) version 1.0 is available Content-Length: 1923 Lines: 51 From: mshar@vax.ipm.ac.ir (Kamran Karimi) Subject: DIPC (Distributed IPC) version 1.0 is available Keywords: distributed parallel programming multi computer Linux kernel IPC DSM WAN TCP/IP UDP/IP heterogeneous environment This is to announce that version 1.0 of DIPC (Distributed Inter-Process Communication) for Linux is available now. DIPC is no longer considered beta. DIPC can be used to build and program multi-computers, and provides distributed program developers with semaphores, messages and transparent distributed shared memory. The file dipc-1.0.tgz, containing the complete source code and documents, can be obtained by anonymous ftp from sunsite.unc.edu, in /incoming/Linux, or in /pub/Linux/system/network/distrib/dipc. Alternatively, it can be downloaded from DIPC's web page at http://wallybox.cei.net/dipc Previous versions of DIPC are hereby declared obsolete. The contents of the dipc-1.0.lsm file follows: Begin3 Title: DIPC (Distributed Inter-Process Communication) Version: 1.0 Entered-date: Oct. 30 1997 Description: DIPC enables you to build and program distributed (multi-computer) systems very easily. It works by making System V IPC mechanisms (shared memories, semaphores and messages) network transparent. Keywords: distributed parallel programming multi computer Kernel IPC DSM WAN TCP/IP UDP/IP heterogeneous environment Author: kamran@wallybox.cei.net (Kamran Karimi) Maintained-by: kamran@wallybox.cei.net (Kamran Karimi) schmitz@lcbvax.cchem.berkeley.edu (Michael Schmitz) Primary-site: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/network/distrib/dipc 241kB dipc-1.0.tgz Alternate-site: wallybox.cei.net /pub/dipc 241kB dipc-1.0.tgz Platforms: Linux/i386, Linux/m68k, TCP/IP, UDP/IP Copying-policy: Freely distributable and usable, Copyright (C) Kamran Karimi End Regards, Kamran Karimi From behnke@foo.fh-furtwangen.de Wed Nov 26 08:59:10 1997 Received: from mascha.foo.fh-furtwangen.de (root@mascha.foo.fh-furtwangen.de [141.28.64.20]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA17740; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:59:09 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:59:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from goedel.foo.fh-furtwangen.de (goedel [141.28.64.24]) by mascha.foo.fh-furtwangen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18961 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:59:01 +0100 Received: from goedel.foo.fh-furtwangen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goedel.foo.fh-furtwangen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA04241 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:59:05 +0100 Sender: behnke@foo.fh-furtwangen.de Message-ID: <347BD6C9.240AF093@foo.fh-furtwangen.de> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:59:05 +0100 From: Jochen Behnke X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux Port for DEC Station 3100 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 389 Lines: 12 Hi, I read in the Linux/MIPS FAQ that the port for DEC Station 3100 is in progress. In our Labatory we have 4 DEC Stations 3100 and 2 DEC Stations 2100 currently running ULTRIX. We wan't to run Linux on them if possible. Are the ports for those machines now done ? Or could you give me the e-mail address of the guy, who is doing the port so I can ask him myself ? Thanks a lot. Jochen From ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Nov 28 14:59:49 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA08530; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:41 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12344; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id OAA12961; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128145912.03440@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:12 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: libg++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Content-Length: 245 Lines: 8 Hi, libg++ is completly broken. Programs linked with it will die even before the main function is reached. This probably means that the problem is somewhere in the construcors run at initialization time. Can somebody look into that? Ralf From ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Nov 28 16:14:29 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA08940; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:27 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15667; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:19 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA13082; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128161417.23781@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:17 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: X11 patches and binaries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Content-Length: 12685 Lines: 195 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I promised somebody I'd use the time during the student strikes in Germany to work on the NCR driver. Well, I lied - here is X windows instead :-) The binaries are mostly packaged into rpm packages with the exception of the XFree distribution itself which for now I'm providing as a tarball. A patch to be applied to the XFree source distribution itself is included. Right now the only X server included is Xnest; only little endian binaries are included. Given the short time invested into X and clients most things are untested. Those things I actually have tested were working very reliable with the exception of one program based libg++. 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SRPMS/xpuzzles-5.3.1-3.src.rpm 37587aea1077a5a2acf39edb6fe4bcc7 SRPMS/xrn-8.02-4.src.rpm 9583e4871f94eb79d850d26d2c594e1b SRPMS/xscreensaver-1.26-6.src.rpm dbeb3a6f8ef3e7c1fb79d95a068bf2a1 SRPMS/xsnow-1.40-3.src.rpm 46cf53f9322d606a9f8c05a13b4e2568 SRPMS/xsysinfo-1.5-3.src.rpm a9cbdaa7262a17f60d39a7e8886084f2 SRPMS/xterm-color-1.1-5.src.rpm a7c78350c22bc7b8bf602257430a8859 SRPMS/xtoolwait-0.3-4.src.rpm c6eb0534edf15c26caf2bfd48f3f5b8e SRPMS/xv-3.10a-7.src.rpm 8fafd40a7dae65a884093d10b91c9c6a SRPMS/xtrojka-1.2.2-3.src.rpm 6e7c5971078f613b558593db22c9a3f6 SRPMS/xwpick-2.20-6.src.rpm 7e66a3889534a92ffaaa1108f3e91b5d SRPMS/xxgdb-1.12-2.src.rpm d58b2e110bfe5ee2fbe694fba43a640c SRPMS/xzip-140-5.src.rpm 1e45d6b8f2e0a25d9acb5591d0390f9a SRPMS/ytalk-3.0.3-2.src.rpm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNH7d5Uckbl6vezDBAQGgwAP/UBNT9EJZDmTXZT63skzeu8xcNcPSu/hY La4sve0DG+iWjrvsCgb9Vv7DMu/nGGF7QQQUOFXVCkAZVHK+x7/eQf1bd3nJSgYb JBDnBzkrU8npUEpMvomKqj0Y2Ohmc3nNlricNhO+OeTMblAHGFNujmI7SXA/g3db y+FSRx16wpY= =+RqM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ryan@ravage.labs.gmu.edu Fri Nov 28 18:56:51 1997 Received: from ravage.labs.gmu.edu ([129.174.166.55]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA10147; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 18:56:49 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 18:56:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ravage.labs.gmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22443 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:57:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:57:27 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: libg++ In-Reply-To: <19971128145912.03440@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 505 Lines: 19 That's funny... I've been using C++ programs linked to libg++ since august. Of course, I had to compile my own libg++, but it works... Which version are you using? Is mise le meas, Ryan Rafferty On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > Hi, > > libg++ is completly broken. Programs linked with it will die even before > the main function is reached. This probably means that the problem is > somewhere in the construcors run at initialization time. Can somebody > look into that? > > Ralf > From ralf@uni-koblenz.de Fri Nov 28 20:55:59 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id UAA10888; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:55:57 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:55:57 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-15.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.15]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07352 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:55:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA13866; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128205225.54864@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:52:25 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: libg++ References: <19971128145912.03440@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Ryan on Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 12:57:27PM -0500 Content-Length: 304 Lines: 9 On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 12:57:27PM -0500, Ryan wrote: > That's funny... I've been using C++ programs linked to libg++ since > august. Of course, I had to compile my own libg++, but it works... Which > version are you using? The RedHat package libg++-2.7.2.8-6.src.rpm. Builds out of the box. Ralf From jeremie@netins.net Sat Nov 29 07:50:36 1997 Received: from worf.netins.net (root@worf.netins.net [167.142.225.4]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id HAA15986; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 07:50:35 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 07:50:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from worf.netins.net (jeremie@worf.netins.net [167.142.225.4]) by worf.netins.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA14521 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:50:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:50:33 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremie Miller To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: more info Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 129 Lines: 8 Where can I find more information on linux-mips or subscribing to the mailing list? Thanks, Jeremie Miller jeremie@netins.net From ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Sun Nov 30 03:09:04 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA25184; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 03:09:03 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 03:09:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA25434; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 03:09:01 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id DAA14364; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 03:08:59 +0100 Message-ID: <19971130030859.11884@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 03:08:59 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Morten Helgesen Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Need help with my RM200c References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Morten Helgesen on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 01:40:07AM +0100 Content-Length: 1128 Lines: 25 On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 01:40:07AM +0100, Morten Helgesen wrote: > When I bought the system there were no docs or hard disk in the case. > I have just now bought an 9.1 gig HD and are eagerly waiting to get my system > up'n running. Whatts the proceedings when I want to install Win NT on my > hard disk ? I have the Win NT cd-rom inserted and type "boot cdrom" but as > there's no valid filesystem on my hard disk it keeps telling me it can't read > the current fs. How do I overcome this ? I have also tried to "boot floppy" > but with the same result. If you have installed the little endian firmware then you can choose "install Windooze NT" from the boot menu. The big endian firmware obviously doesn't have this feature, it should tell something about Sinix, SNI's UNIX. In order to run Linux you must have the little endian firmware installed. Also you must have two extra floppies with the HAL and driver in order to install NT; the NT CD is not sufficient. > Now at first I'd like to install Win NT but maybe later also the Linux > Operating System. This is Penguin from Borg, you will be assimilated ;-) Ralf From morten@powertech.no Sun Nov 30 21:17:19 1997 Received: from mail.powertech.no (root@intentia.powertech.no [195.159.0.220]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.8/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA03489; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:17:18 +0100 (MET) Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:17:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from powertech.no (s02i16-0016.no.powertech.net [195.159.4.16]) by mail.powertech.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09152 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:17:06 +0100 From: Morten Helgesen To: Ralf Baechle Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:13:08 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Need help with my RM200c MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Length: 1892 Lines: 81 On 30-Nov-97, Ralf Baechle wrote: >On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 01:40:07AM +0100, Morten Helgesen wrote: >> When I bought the system there were no docs or hard disk in the case. >> I have just now bought an 9.1 gig HD and are eagerly waiting to get my >system >> up'n running. x >If you have installed the little endian firmware then you can choose >"install Windooze NT" from the boot menu. The big endian firmware >obviously doesn't have this feature, it should tell something about Sinix, >SNI's UNIX. >In order to run Linux you must have the little endian firmware installed. >Also you must have two extra floppies with the HAL and driver in order to >install NT; the NT CD is not sufficient. x >This is Penguin from Borg, you will be assimilated ;-) > Ralf -------------------------------- Hi, and thanks. I guess my system is configured with the big endian but what , I will switch my system off and connect to my rm200 and check out what messages i get. Hi i'm back. Heres what i get: SNI Monitor Version 5.0207 Monoprosessor System ASIC PCI Revision 1 Memory........ ............. bla bla bla bla bla.... xxxx power-on diagnostics result: 0x100 xxxx problems on 0x100 press any key to continue ------------------------------------------------------------------ RM 200 Firmware Version 5.0207 Sinix boot (auto) stand-alone shell boot (bootl) standard installation (install) tape installation (tinstall) remote installation (rinstall) firmware update (update) remote firmware (rupdate) switch to nt firmware (sinix_to_nt) enviroment modification prom monitor -------------------------------------------------------------------- What can i do to format and configure the hard disk so i can install NT on it. Where can i get the little endian software, help.. !!!! I have no idea where to start.. thanx :-) mortenh@powertech.no