From ryan@ravage.labs.gmu.edu Wed Sep 3 15:15:06 1997 Received: from ravage.labs.gmu.edu ([129.174.166.55]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA08547; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:15:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:15:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ravage.labs.gmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22729 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:15:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:15:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: 2.1.43 In-Reply-To: <199708072130.XAA01820@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 335 Lines: 10 Can anyone point me to the 2.1.43 kernel? I moved my Intel machine that has I was cross-compiling on to my house, and now I can't find that version of the kernel source anywhere. BTW, my Magnum is now hosting it's own homepage, which I will update soon. http://129.174.166.205/~ryan/magnum/mips.html Is mise le meas, Ryan Rafferty From cdemps@lsumc.edu Thu Sep 4 15:36:58 1997 Received: from sarah.ocs.lsumc.edu (SARAH.OCS.LSUMC.EDU [155.58.128.154]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA16962; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:36:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:36:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [155.58.112.211] by sarah.ocs.lsumc.edu (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11395) with SMTP id AAA155 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <340EBB81.60E1@lsumc.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 07:45:37 -0600 From: cdemps@lsumc.edu (Dempsey, Charles) Reply-To: cdemps@lsumc.edu Organization: LSU Med Ctr X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 2.1.43. Good job! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 233 Lines: 9 Ryan wrote: > BTW, my Magnum is now hosting it's own homepage, which I will update soon. > http://129.174.166.205/~ryan/magnum/mips.html That's great! Is this the first Magnum PC-50 running Linux to host its own website? Charles From kiesling@terracom.net Thu Sep 4 22:57:19 1997 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (root@gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.65]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA19659; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:57:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:57:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA29429 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:01:57 +0200 Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by mendota.terracom.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA10948 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:59:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Kiesling To: linux@waldorf-gmbh.de Subject: Linux-MIPS archive. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 154 Lines: 13 Where is the Linux-MIPS FTP archive? Thanks. MfG, Rober (Bob) kiesling@terracom.net Robert_A._Kiesling@macline.com ...No writing gig too small... From stu@cinops.xerox.com Fri Sep 5 04:51:49 1997 Received: from himalia.eastgw.xerox.com (firewall-user@himalia.ext.eastgw.xerox.com [208.140.33.21]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA22759; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:51:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:51:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by himalia.eastgw.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA07821 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from killians.cinops.xerox.com(13.252.44.22) by himalia.eastgw.xerox.com via smap (3.2) id xma007819; Thu, 4 Sep 97 22:51:25 -0400 Received: from frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com (stu@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com [13.231.118.248]) by killians.cinops.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16359 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from stu@localhost) by frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16075 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:51:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Stu Allen Message-Id: <199709050251.WAA16075@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com> Subject: Re: Help! got stuck on the DS2100/3100 In-Reply-To: from Frieder Streffer at "Aug 29, 97 10:56:21 pm" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:51:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1743 Lines: 35 > Hi there, > I had some time these days to do some work on the DS2100/3100 port. > I found 2 scheduling hazards in the macros SAVEALL and RESTOREALL, after > this fix the memory sizing routine runs well. > > Now I got stuck in kernel_entry, when the bss is cleaned. There are two > adresses _edata and _end, which are set by the linker as I understand. On > my machine these are both zero, but they shouldn't be, I think. > > I'm not familiar with the linker internals nor with the ecoff file format, > so could some, please, make some suggestions to solve the problem! > OK, prompted by this success (!?), I've finally gotten motivated to try building my own kernel for my DECsystem 5100. As you all might remember, Paul and I (actually Paul did all the work; I just tested his kernels!) figured out back in May that this beast is, at least from a PROM standpoint, pretty much like a 3100, so the calls to write to the 3100 console work on this thing too. With Paul's last kernel, I get as far as the "Linux version 2.1.14 (paul@slither) ... " banner, and then it crashes. Is the memory sizing routine the next thing that runs after that banner? OK, so tonight I built a kernel of my own, using Paul's "linux-2.1.14.2.dec" source tree. I had to create a couple links (one of which was quite odd, and I can't figure out where it gets requested!), but after I did that the "make vmlinux" went fine. I just now remembered the note on Paul's web page that describes how to put the kernel in the correct format (using objcopy), and once I did that it loads and gets me to the same point as Paul's kernel. So where do I go next? -- Stu Allen Phone: (716) 231-0073 EDS / GNS Internet: stu@cinops.xerox.com From frist@lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de Fri Sep 5 09:29:30 1997 Received: from lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (lehr.chem.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.66.25]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA24016; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:29:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:29:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from frist@localhost) by lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA13325; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:29:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:29:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Frieder Streffer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Help! got stuck on the DS2100/3100 In-Reply-To: <199709050251.WAA16075@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2380 Lines: 56 On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Stu Allen wrote: > > Hi there, > > I had some time these days to do some work on the DS2100/3100 port. > > I found 2 scheduling hazards in the macros SAVEALL and RESTOREALL, after > > this fix the memory sizing routine runs well. > > > > Now I got stuck in kernel_entry, when the bss is cleaned. There are two > > adresses _edata and _end, which are set by the linker as I understand. On > > my machine these are both zero, but they shouldn't be, I think. > > > > I'm not familiar with the linker internals nor with the ecoff file format, > > so could some, please, make some suggestions to solve the problem! > > > > OK, prompted by this success (!?), I've finally gotten motivated to try > building my own kernel for my DECsystem 5100. As you all might remember, > Paul and I (actually Paul did all the work; I just tested his kernels!) > figured out back in May that this beast is, at least from a PROM standpoint, > pretty much like a 3100, so the calls to write to the 3100 console work on > this thing too. With Paul's last kernel, I get as far as the "Linux version > 2.1.14 (paul@slither) ... " banner, and then it crashes. > > Is the memory sizing routine the next thing that runs after that banner? > > OK, so tonight I built a kernel of my own, using Paul's "linux-2.1.14.2.dec" > source tree. I had to create a couple links (one of which was quite odd, > and I can't figure out where it gets requested!), but after I did that the > "make vmlinux" went fine. I just now remembered the note on Paul's web page > that describes how to put the kernel in the correct format (using objcopy), > and once I did that it loads and gets me to the same point as Paul's kernel. > > So where do I go next? Hi Stu, probably the only problem you have is that Paul did forget to copy the execption handle to the correct location. There were some Mail's around just after ther e release of Paul's "linux-2.1.14.2.dec" concerning that topic. I do not have the source here but it was something like memcopy(KSEG0+0x80, execpt_vec0, 0x80); just in the beginning of get_pmax_memorysize of arch/mips/dec/decstation.c. May be you can find the original mail of Paul, or I will post the correct statment tomorrow. so long, Frieder > > -- > Stu Allen Phone: (716) 231-0073 > EDS / GNS Internet: stu@cinops.xerox.com > From ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Sat Sep 6 04:52:40 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA01132; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 04:52:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 04:52:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA29979; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 04:52:30 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709060252.EAA29979@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id EAA07466; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 04:52:28 +0200 Subject: Re: Run a Magnum 4000SC-50 big-endian? To: cdemps@lsumc.edu (Charles A. Dempsey) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 04:52:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <3410E25F.3475F4E7@lsumc.edu> from "Charles A. Dempsey" at Sep 6, 97 01:47:39 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 912 Lines: 23 Hi, > With the recent flurry of activity on SGI-Linux I'm feeling a bit left > out. I understand that the SC is somewhat supported since linux-2.1.36 > and I have David Monro's bfsd and Thomas'SCSI patch so.... > > 1. Is there any reason why I can not run Linux on a 4000SC (or a 4000PC) > in big-endian mode? The Magnums have been constructed as little endian boxes. Their big endian support in the hardware is a bit hackish. When running the Magnum big endian you either have the choice to run the box slow or fast but with an incompatible disk format. The Mips guys simply forgot the endian switch in the DMA logic, grmpf... Also the big endian firmware is different and not currently suported. > 2. Could I then run the SGI-Linux binaries? Yes, with the exception of a few hardware dependand binaries. So make that >95% of the binaries. Even the IRIX compatibility mode would be working. Ralf From frist@lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de Sat Sep 6 17:56:33 1997 Received: from lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (lehr.chem.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.66.25]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id RAA04596; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:56:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:56:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from frist@localhost) by lehr.chem.tu-berlin.de (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA04382; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:56:30 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:56:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Frieder Streffer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Help! got stuck on the DS2100/3100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 288 Lines: 13 Hi Stu, now I'm at home an here is the correct line to insert in function pmax_get_memory_size: memcpy( (void *)(KSEG0+0x80), except_vec3_generic, 0x80); Put that line just bevor the call to 'set_except_vector' and hoipefully it will work out better than before! Good luck Frieder From stu@cinops.xerox.com Mon Sep 8 03:59:20 1997 Received: from himalia.eastgw.xerox.com (firewall-user@himalia.ext.eastgw.xerox.com [208.140.33.21]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA16432; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 03:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 03:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by himalia.eastgw.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA21204 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from killians.cinops.xerox.com(13.252.44.22) by himalia.eastgw.xerox.com via smap (3.2) id xma021202; Sun, 7 Sep 97 21:59:14 -0400 Received: from frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com (stu@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com [13.231.118.248]) by killians.cinops.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23666 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from stu@localhost) by frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA20373; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:59:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Stu Allen Message-Id: <199709080159.VAA20373@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com> Subject: Re: Help! got stuck on the DS2100/3100 In-Reply-To: from Frieder Streffer at "Sep 5, 97 09:29:07 am" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2066 Lines: 42 Hi Frieder! > probably the only problem you have is that Paul did forget to copy the > execption handle to the correct location. There were some Mail's around > just after ther e release of Paul's "linux-2.1.14.2.dec" concerning that > topic. I do not have the source here but it was something like > > memcopy(KSEG0+0x80, execpt_vec0, 0x80); > > just in the beginning of get_pmax_memorysize of arch/mips/dec/decstation.c. > May be you can find the original mail of Paul, or I will post the correct > statment tomorrow. OK. (Got your other message with the real statement.) Well, I'm reinstalling the OS on my NFS server tonight, so unfortunately I can do any recompiling right now :-( But I _did_ make much progress last night! I ended up just hard-coding the memory size for my box (a whopping 8 meg!) and then I pressed on. Couple other things I found: 1) In linux/arch/mips/dec/decstation.c, there is a call to prom_getenv to get the console type. As is implied by the comment directly above, the environment variable is different on the 5100 (and 2100/3100 too, I assume) - it is "console" not "osconsole". This returns "0" on my box, so I modified the if/then/else below to set serial console for this value. 2) Hmm. I guess this should have been 1, since it appears first - but I think I found it second! Anyways, there is a call to register_console which passed "rex_printf". This lead to an immediate core dump the first time printk was called (at the end of boot.S). Once I changed this to prom_printf I was rewarded with a bunch more of the boot sequence! Now I get to the loop delay calibration, where the machine hangs. Can anyone give me a quick explanation of how this routine works, and why it _isn't_ working? I notice that just above there is a note requesting that someone "write the time init code for the DECstation" -- is this why it isn't working (because the clock interrupt isn't being serviced?) This is fun! -- Stu Allen Phone: (716) 231-0073 EDS / GNS Internet: stu@cinops.xerox.com From ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Mon Sep 8 04:39:21 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA16595; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 04:39:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 04:39:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA13183 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 04:39:03 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709080239.EAA13183@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id EAA10314; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 04:39:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Help! got stuck on the DS2100/3100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 04:38:59 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199709080159.VAA20373@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com> from "Stu Allen" at Sep 7, 97 09:59:09 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1173 Lines: 26 > 2) Hmm. I guess this should have been 1, since it appears first - but I > think I found it second! Anyways, there is a call to register_console which > passed "rex_printf". This lead to an immediate core dump the first time > printk was called (at the end of boot.S). Once I changed this to prom_printf > I was rewarded with a bunch more of the boot sequence! Now I get to the > loop delay calibration, where the machine hangs. The argument type of register_console has been changed some time ago. The old arguement was a pointer to a routine which prints a \0 terminated string. Newer kernels expect struct console * as argument. See for the definition of the structure and some more documentation about it's content. > Can anyone give me a quick explanation of how this routine works, and why > it _isn't_ working? I notice that just above there is a note requesting > that someone "write the time init code for the DECstation" -- is this why > it isn't working (because the clock interrupt isn't being serviced?) Yes. This routine should initialize whatever timer is being used on a particular machine. > This is fun! Wheee!!! Ralf From miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx Mon Sep 8 19:05:17 1997 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA21966; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:05:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:05:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA30730; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:57:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:57:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199709081657.LAA30730@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-reply-to: <199709080159.VAA20373@frankenmuth.cinops.xerox.com> (message from Stu Allen on Sun, 7 Sep 1997 21:59:09 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Help! got stuck on the DS2100/3100 X-FileLength: are infinite where infinity is set to 255 characters Content-Length: 538 Lines: 14 > Now I get to the loop delay calibration, where the machine hangs. > > Can anyone give me a quick explanation of how this routine works, and why > it _isn't_ working? I notice that just above there is a note requesting > that someone "write the time init code for the DECstation" -- is this why > it isn't working (because the clock interrupt isn't being serviced?) You are up to the point where you need to get interrupts working, moer specifically you need the timer interrupt working. Good luck, you are getting closer. Miguel. From Regan@bde.com.au Tue Sep 9 02:43:02 1997 Received: from ozemail.com.au (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.41]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA26465; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 02:43:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 02:43:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA23129; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:42:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from bde.com.au (gamers.ozemail.com.au [203.7.189.162]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA09683; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:42:53 +1000 (EST) Received: by bde.com.au with NT SMTP Gateway ver 31 id <34149C7A@bde.com.au>; Tue, 09 Sep 97 11:46:50 S From: Regan Russell To: "'linux-mips@fnet.fr'" Cc: "'linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: DECstation 3100. Date: Tue, 09 Sep 97 11:40:00 S Message-ID: <34149C7A@bde.com.au> Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Length: 762 Lines: 21 Hi, I have a heap (12+) of UNIX kernel internal books, two books on R2000/3000 assembler, two on UNIX device drivers and a 3100. I used the MIPS simulator xspim in the RISC classes at university. I want to contribute something to linux. Where/how can I start ? On a separate note, we have one dead 3100 and one running Ultrix. The dead one starts with 7..6..5..4..3..2..1.. ?? >From what I can gather from the comp.unix.ultrix FAQ this is a SCSI problem. I've played with the termination, put the drive in another machine, etc. I have yet to check cables and motherboard, is this definately a SCSI problem ? Regan Russell BSc. regan@bde.com.au (Brilliant Digital Entertainment - Work) rrussell@c2.telstra-mm.net.au (One mega-bit cable modem at home) From louis@merchant.stockton.edu Sat Sep 13 01:02:59 1997 Received: from fred.stockton.edu (fred.stockton.edu [134.210.4.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA03246; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 01:02:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 01:02:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by fred.stockton.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA23743; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:08:26 -0400 Received: from merchant.stockton.edu by loki.stockton.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/10Sep96-0937PM) id AA23210; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:01:57 -0400 Received: (from louis@localhost) by merchant.stockton.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA00175 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:05:51 -0400 From: "Louis M. Seigal" Message-Id: <199709122305.TAA00175@merchant.stockton.edu> Subject: Linux w/DEC 3100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:05:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1795 Lines: 38 Linux Guru, Hello there, I'm searching for some help. I'm a college student going to the Richard Stockton College of NJ working on an independent study in network security. I don't know a hellva lot but I have been running Linux Slackware 3 on a 486/33mhz for several months. I have the opertunity to take three or so DEC 3100 workstations which currently have Ultrix on them and install Linux on them for use with this project. I have read the info on your page and the info on pauls Linux/MIPS DECStation porting page but I still have a few questions...not sure if your willing to anwser them or now. A few things I would like to know: 1)Is the kernel generally available (ie sunsite) supporting the ability to compile on a DEC3100 workstation? If so I assume it's only the experimental ones so far (2.1.x)? 2)I don't expect a complete explanation of this, but is it possible to install linux on a DECStation over the network...i don't see any floppy drives connected to them but i guess that i must assume they have external ones hidding in a closet somewhere. Any other info about Linux on a DEC3100 would be greatly apprecaited, thanks... 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Since I've seen no ill effects so far with modutils under Linux/MIPS I've sent the patches to rth for inclusion in the standard package. Patches are in the CVS archive on ftp.linux.sgi.com, as well as a source and little endian binary package. I could not connect to fnet, so for now these files will only be available on ftp.linux.sgi.com. Ralf From hostmaster@noc.netcom.net Sun Sep 14 19:29:00 1997 Received: from noc.netcom.net (noc.netcom.net [192.187.130.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA16182; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:28:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:28:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: hostmaster@noc.netcom.net Received: by noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id KAA18149; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:28:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:28:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199709141728.KAA18149@noc.netcom.net> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Welcome to the first intellectual game on the net !!! 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(+34 3) 213 56 16 > 08024 BARCELONA fax (+34 3) 219 77 59 > From mortenh@powertech.no Mon Sep 15 21:16:00 1997 Received: from mail.powertech.no (insulina.powertech.no [195.159.0.218]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA01416; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:15:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:15:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: mortenh@powertech.no Received: from oslo.no.powertech.net (isdn-gw16-09.oslo.no.powertech.net [195.159.4.9]) by mail.powertech.no (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA26727 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:13:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:13:52 +0200 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: mips linux Message-ID: <184.7197.IB.1275.IB.958@powertech.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: IBrowse 1.12demo (Amiga; Always 32-bit) Content-Length: 184 Lines: 9 send me please all info you have on the linux for rm200 mips 4700 i'd like to get it up and running linux and win nt if possible ,, is it ??? pleaSE help me mortenh@powertech.no From hostmaster@noc.netcom.net Tue Sep 16 03:31:49 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA04602; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:31:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:31:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: hostmaster@noc.netcom.net Received: by noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id SAA09093; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:30:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:30:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199709160130.SAA09093@noc.netcom.net> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Welcome to the first intellectual game on the net !!! 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From dshearer@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au Wed Sep 17 14:16:47 1997 Received: from spri.levels.unisa.edu.au (charli.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.17.37]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id OAA15293; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:16:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:16:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by spri.levels.unisa.edu.au id MAA16201; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:16:05 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:46:04 +0930 (ACST) From: Dan Shearer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: DecStation port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1808 Lines: 46 I am directing this to the list because the excellent FAQ is out of date concerning Decstations (compared to the even more excellent DecStation Porting home page at http://www.softway.com.au/people/paul/dec.) The porting home page was last update 16th May 97, which appears to be out of date compared to the latest images! So, I ask the list the enclosed question about graphics on Decstation Linux. I am working on getting a source of Decstation 5000s. Did you know that Dec are taking 5000's as trade-in on Alphas... and then melting down the 5000s? C'est affreux, un disastre, on doit faire quelque chose (en fait j'ai deja commence en parlant a maddog.) Regards, Dan Shearer Dan.Shearer@unisa.edu.au ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:21:49 +0930 From: Bevin.Steer@UniSA.Edu.Au To: dan.shearer@UniSA.Edu.Au Cc: philip.williams@UniSA.Edu.Au Subject: Hi Dan ... linux for DECstations.... Hi Dan, I had a message to email or phone you... I seem to have misplaced your phone number.... ???? However, I want an X server that will run on DECstations with Turbo Channel TX and PX graphics cards. Ive spoken with "maddog" and he didnt think there would be much hope... Has the DECstation linux port made it to the turbo channel options yet? If not, we have these remaining options: o DEC fix their Ultrix Turbo Channel TX and PX X server (expect three month delay) o Unigraphics modify their app so it doesnt crash the x-server (not likely...theve already blown us off) o Ask DEC to free up the source for their Ultrix Turbo Channel TX and PX X-server (hahahaha) and then we fix it. o Find an alternative R11v5 X-server for that hardware... Have you any suggestions? Thanks, Bevin From khan@mogli.neuroma.uni-heidelberg.de Fri Sep 19 09:20:09 1997 Received: from mogli.neuroma.uni-heidelberg.de (khan@mogli.neuroma.uni-heidelberg.de [134.155.43.60]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA29887; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:20:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:20:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by mogli.neuroma.uni-heidelberg.de (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406.SGI.AUTO) for linux-mips@fnet.fr id JAA14538; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:01:19 +0200 From: khan@mogli.neuroma.uni-heidelberg.de (Jens Beyer) Message-Id: <199709190701.JAA14538@mogli.neuroma.uni-heidelberg.de> Subject: REMOVE To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:01:14 +0200 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <73684181_17477769> from "oicm@oicmrq.net.waldorf-gmbh.de" at Sep 14, 97 00:45:57 am Reply-to: khan@rumms.uni-mannheim.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 994 Lines: 26 > > > **************** > If you wish to be removed from our mailing list, please hit REPLY and > type in the key word REMOVE in the subject field. This message has been > sent to you by F.G.I.G.E. Please address any remarks to our attention. > **************** > Play a fun and innovative game that tests you according to your level of > skill. CHALLENGE yourself, have FUN - WIN MONEY (up to $20,000) - PLAY > The Winning Spin TODAY! http://www.fortune-wheel.com > You have nothing to lose, and so much to gain! Try The Winning Spin > ---and soon, you’ll be THANKING us! > Your Friends at F.G.I.G.E. > PS To receive a $12 gift certificate and have the opportunity to win > $20,000 in cash- go to our sponsor site - > http://effect-inc.com and click on "Bonus". > > If you would like to be removed, please let us know. > -- Nur tote Fische schwimmen mit dem Strom khan@rumms.uni-mannheim.de jens.beyer@urz.uni-heidelberg.de From montge@rpi.edu Sat Sep 20 22:50:29 1997 Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id WAA12271; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 22:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 22:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from vccsouth-07.rcs.rpi.edu (montge@vccsouth-07.rcs.rpi.edu [128.113.28.17]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15206 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 16:50:25 -0400 Sender: montge@rpi.edu Message-ID: <3424370D.167E@rpi.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 16:50:21 -0400 From: Evan R Montgomery-Recht Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 682 Lines: 18 subscribe also here my basic question, does mips linux work on a SGI indy??? it's a basic question that I don't see any info on if it works. I have a SGI Indy, 64 megs ram(I think), I have no way to get into IRIX, has the DV option. thanks, evan -- ----------==========----------------------------==========----------- |Evan R Montgomery-Recht "We were young, we were | | reckless, arrogant, silly. | |e-mail: montge@rpi.edu headstrong-and we were right | |home page: http://www.rpi.edu/~montge I regret nothing." | |phone #: 518.276.8930 -Abbie Hoffman | ----------==========----------------------------==========----------- From Werntalon@aol.com Sun Sep 21 02:22:06 1997 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (root@gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.65]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA14765; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 02:22:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 02:22:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Werntalon@aol.com Received: from scotty (root@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA32128 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 02:26:20 +0200 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by scotty (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA16361 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:06:55 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA11949 for linux@waldorf-gmbh.de; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970920202128_115684238@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: linux@waldorf-gmbh.de Subject: linux Content-Length: 57 Lines: 1 do you know where i can download linux oon the internet? From ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Sun Sep 21 09:49:16 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA17718; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:49:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:49:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from erbse (ralf@erbse.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.44]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA09436 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:48:59 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709210748.JAA09436@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id JAA01682; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:48:58 +0200 Subject: Interrupt handlers To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:48:57 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1150 Lines: 24 Hi all, some notes about the interrupt handlers. The interrupt handling code we're currently using is still mostly the first generation code. Weaknesses of the old code include: - Examining the bits in a loop this hurts especially on the R4000/R4200/R4400 where each taken branch involves a two cycle penalty. - As a side effect of scanning in a loop we had a fixed priority. That was ok for what the code was originally written for, but everybody (including me ...) shamelessly copied the code without fixing that ever. fixing that ever. - As side effect of the way normal and "SA_INTERRUPT" interrupts were being handled we had a extra indirection over a jump table. Now after a little overhaul the interrupt handlers for the eval board I'm just hacking is a lot faster and smaller; as a nice side effect they have become _very_ trivial, too. The cleanup of the "fast" interrupts also affected the generic part of the interrupt handling. I tried to do the required modifications for the other systems code but without the hardware at hand I of course could not test it. So please check the code for your machine. Ralf From ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Sun Sep 21 09:55:27 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA18054; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:55:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:55:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from erbse (ralf@erbse.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.44]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA10216 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:55:08 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709210755.JAA10216@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id JAA01691; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:55:06 +0200 Subject: I forgot ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:55:06 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 281 Lines: 8 Hi all, just a short note - yesterday Miguel managed to bring up SGI's X server for IRIX running under Linux's binary compatibility stuff for the first time. The code still has all sorts of bugs, but I thought it's a milestone and I should drop a note to this list, too. Ralf From Gilles.Gravier@Swiss.Sun.COM Mon Sep 22 09:34:55 1997 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id JAA26685; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Swiss.Sun.COM ([129.156.124.1]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id AAA13542 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 00:34:15 -0700 Received: from ge-master by Swiss.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-sd.fkk200) id JAA28660; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:08 +0200 Received: from ge-home by ge-master (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-se.fkk202) id JAA27897; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:06 +0200 Received: from Swiss.Sun.COM by ge-home (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-su.fkk203) id JAA03525; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:05 +0200 Message-ID: <34261EEC.9A52BB4C@Swiss.Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:31:56 +0200 From: Gilles Gravier - IEC - Consultant Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Giving my RC3230 away Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1428 Lines: 32 It just died! :) OK.. here is the deal: My RC3230 just died... I can't boot it... It doen't give any output on the console, and after some time just sounds a brrrrweeeeep on the system speaker... And, I don't have the time and/or money to get it fixed... So before I just dump it in the trash I figured someone might want to grab it. It's got 32MB of RAM in 1MB SIMMS, it's internal 600 MB disk, plus an external (Sun) shoe-box with a 340 MB hard disk. Either you are in Switzerland and can come and pick it up in Geneva, or you are in France, in the Paris area, and I can bring it there, as I drive to Paris every now and then. Anyone interested? Cheers, Gilles. -- /----------------+-------------------------------------------\ | /\ | Gilles Gravier | | \\ \ | Technical Consultant | | \ \\ / | Sun Microsystems | | / \/ / / | International Enterprise Center | | / / \//\ | 2, rue de Jargonnant | | \//\ / / | 1207 Geneva | | / / /\ / | Switzerland | | / \\ \ | Email: Gilles.Gravier@Swiss.Sun.COM | | \ \\ | Phone: +41-(22)-707-7856 | | \/ | Fax: +41-(22)-707-7888 | \----------------+-------------------------------------------/ From max@polgen2.polito.it Mon Sep 22 13:29:36 1997 Received: from pol88b.polito.it (pol88b.polito.it [130.192.2.16]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id NAA27858; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:29:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:29:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from polgen2.polito.it by polito.it (PMDF V4.2-15 #3020) id <01INY0W8838G9KQVMX@polito.it>; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:26:43 GMT+1 Received: from polgen11.polito.it by polgen2.polito.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17158; Mon, 22 Sep 97 13:25:24 +0200 Received: by polgen11.polito.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28278; Mon, 22 Sep 97 13:27:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:25:24 +0200 From: max@polgen2.polito.it (Massimo Ruo Roch) Subject: Help for Linux MIPS To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: mx@polito.it Message-id: <9709221125.AA17158@polgen2.polito.it> X-Envelope-to: linux-mips@fnet.fr X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 24 I'm a researcher at Poitecnico di Torino, Italy. My main interests are in digital microelectronics circuits, but I'm the system administrator of some CAD labs, too, with a good knowledge of Unix tips an tricks. I have to Sony Mips available connected to a local network with a Linux'ed PC, so I'd like to port Linux on these Sony, too. As I read on the WEB there is already a project of this kind, and I'd like to offer my help, if possible, for development as for testing, in spare time of course. Let me know anything, please. Max =========================================================================== Massimo Ruo Roch Dipartimento di Elettronica __ / __ / / / __ __/ __ / Politecnico di Torino / / / / / / / / / c.so Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 ___/ / / / / / / / I10129 Torino - Italy / / / / / / / / Tel: +39 11 564 4147 _/ _____/ _____/ _/ _/ _____/ Fax: +39 11 564 4112 Email: ruoroch@polito.it =========================================================================== From louis@merchant.stockton.edu Mon Sep 22 21:25:53 1997 Received: from fred.stockton.edu (fred.stockton.edu [134.210.4.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA02007; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:25:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:25:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by fred.stockton.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA32659; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:31:17 -0400 Received: from merchant.stockton.edu by loki.stockton.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/10Sep96-0937PM) id AA06348; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:24:36 -0400 Received: (from louis@localhost) by merchant.stockton.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA00980 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:28:35 -0400 From: "Louis M. Seigal" Message-Id: <199709221928.PAA00980@merchant.stockton.edu> Subject: DEC3100 & Linux To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:28:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 27 Linux-Mips, I would appreciate it greatly if you could anwser a few questions of mine. I have three or so DEC3100 Machine available to me to use as I please. I'd very much like to run Linux on these machines but I'm not really sure if I can. They are all running ULTRIX currently. 1.) Can you run Linux on a DEC3100 machine? 2.) How does one initially install Linux onto an existing DEC3100 machine via the network off of another DEC3100 machine? Those are a few of the basic ones, would appreciate any assistance. The few web pages about the DEC3100 port and MIPS aren't greatly understood by me. I have run a Linux 486i system for a bit, I'm a student and i still have a lot to learn. Louis ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| || || "Dance to the sun || || louis@merchant.stockton.edu || a kiss to the earth || || http://loki.stockton.edu/~stk3127/ || embrace a stone" || || || -=Natalie Merchant=- || ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx Tue Sep 23 04:43:35 1997 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA05261; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:43:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:43:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA16659; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:32:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:32:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199709230232.VAA16659@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@fir.engr.sgi.com Subject: Task list --preliminary list Content-Length: 794 Lines: 28 Here is a preliminary task list of things that should be done for a complete Linux/MIPS port, right now it includes by personal favorites and I am working on some of those bits, but some of the other can be done now, I have a copy of this at: http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~miguel/mips-task-list.txt Priority: [9] Get more userland programs compiled in RPM form [9] Merging the latest GNU libc releases. [9] Get the X libraries compiled. [5] Getting SGI mouse to work. [5] Test the STREAMS implementation of the mouse. [6] Figure why init is setting the sigprocmask to a value different from 0. This disables the debugger (SIGTRAP is disabled for all child processes). [7] Getting IRIX X server to accept connections. Please, send me additions to this list. Miguel. From ralf@dns.cobaltmicro.com Tue Sep 23 05:02:52 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA05834; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 05:02:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 05:02:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14894 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:03:16 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709230303.UAA14894@dns.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:03:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199709230232.VAA16659@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from "Miguel de Icaza" at Sep 22, 97 09:32:19 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1031 Lines: 35 > > > Here is a preliminary task list of things that should be done for a > complete Linux/MIPS port, right now it includes by personal favorites > and I am working on some of those bits, but some of the other can be > done now, I have a copy of this at: > > http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~miguel/mips-task-list.txt > > Priority: > > [9] Get more userland programs compiled in RPM form > > [9] Merging the latest GNU libc releases. That's probably my part to do. I also have some yet unpublished fixes for GNU libc. Add to this list that ld.so dumps core when called as a program like used for ldd. > [9] Get the X libraries compiled. > > [5] Getting SGI mouse to work. > > [5] Test the STREAMS implementation of the mouse. > > [6] Figure why init is setting the sigprocmask to a value different > from 0. This disables the debugger (SIGTRAP is disabled for > all child processes). > > [7] Getting IRIX X server to accept connections. > > Please, send me additions to this list. > Miguel. Ralf From eak@detroit.sgi.com Tue Sep 23 05:52:08 1997 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id FAA06480; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 05:52:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 05:52:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from motown.detroit.sgi.com ([169.238.128.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA22839; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:52:01 -0700 env-from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from detroit.sgi.com by motown.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id XAA25272; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:51:58 -0400 Sender: eak@detroit.sgi.com Message-ID: <34273C4E.9AD0AB2F@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:49:34 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel de Icaza CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@fir.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list References: <199709230232.VAA16659@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1777 Lines: 48 PRI 10 Howto updated so it show how to take a system currently running IRIX and get it to a point where it is running Linux. I know it isn't truly development work, but Ive been stuck with a non-functional Indy for most of a month.My problems seem to be related to trying to NFS boot off of a remote XFS file system but I could be wrong. I haven't grabbed the latest kernel to try so that could resolve my issue. Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > Here is a preliminary task list of things that should be done for a > complete Linux/MIPS port, right now it includes by personal favorites > and I am working on some of those bits, but some of the other can be > done now, I have a copy of this at: > > http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~miguel/mips-task-list.txt > > Priority: > > [9] Get more userland programs compiled in RPM form > > [9] Merging the latest GNU libc releases. > > [9] Get the X libraries compiled. > > [5] Getting SGI mouse to work. > > [5] Test the STREAMS implementation of the mouse. > > [6] Figure why init is setting the sigprocmask to a value different > from 0. This disables the debugger (SIGTRAP is disabled for > all child processes). > > [7] Getting IRIX X server to accept connections. > > Please, send me additions to this list. > Miguel. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Vox:(810) 848-4455 39001 West 12mile Road Fax:(810)848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- http://bs.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=Eric+A.+Kimminau&fingerprint=on From ralf@dns.cobaltmicro.com Tue Sep 23 06:08:47 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA07039; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:08:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:08:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15154; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:09:11 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709230409.VAA15154@dns.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@fir.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34273C4E.9AD0AB2F@detroit.sgi.com> from "Eric Kimminau" at Sep 22, 97 11:49:34 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 650 Lines: 14 > PRI 10 > Howto updated so it show how to take a system currently running IRIX and > get it to a point where it is running Linux. I know it isn't truly > development work, but Ive been stuck with a non-functional Indy for most > of a month.My problems seem to be related to trying to NFS boot off of a > remote XFS file system but I could be wrong. I haven't grabbed the > latest kernel to try so that could resolve my issue. This issues might have been resolved by Miguel's latest CVS commit. Your NFS problems might also have been cause by the VFS rewrite which was essentially turning the filesystems into an inferno for a limited time. Ralf From eak@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com Tue Sep 23 12:48:40 1997 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA11695; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:48:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:48:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (relay.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA00981; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 03:48:31 -0700 env-from (eak@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id GAA18850; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:48:23 -0400 Sender: eak@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com Message-ID: <34279E77.E01AED70@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:48:23 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@fir.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list References: <199709230409.VAA15154@dns.cobaltmicro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1319 Lines: 32 Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > PRI 10 > > Howto updated so it show how to take a system currently running IRIX and > > get it to a point where it is running Linux. I know it isn't truly > > development work, but Ive been stuck with a non-functional Indy for most > > of a month.My problems seem to be related to trying to NFS boot off of a > > remote XFS file system but I could be wrong. I haven't grabbed the > > latest kernel to try so that could resolve my issue. > > This issues might have been resolved by Miguel's latest CVS commit. > Your NFS problems might also have been cause by the VFS rewrite which > was essentially turning the filesystems into an inferno for a limited > time. > > Ralf Agreed. Im going to re-try boot later this afternoon with the new kernel. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" From ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Wed Sep 24 01:35:06 1997 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id BAA17003; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:35:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:35:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from erbse (ralf@erbse.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.44]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA03833; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:34:53 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709232334.BAA03833@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id BAA04268; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:34:50 +0200 Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list To: marks@sun470.sun470.rd.qms.com (Mark Salter) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:34:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199709231837.NAA20145@speedy.rd.qms.com> from "Mark Salter" at Sep 23, 97 01:37:28 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1510 Lines: 31 > Yes, but I bet you didn't check it on an Indy with no scache :-) > I have one of those beasts and the latest code in the cvs tree > crashes early in the boot process. > > The code in arch/mips/mm/r4xx0.c which sets up the cache flush > procs now selects r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600 where > earlier versions of r4xx0.c selected r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32. > I think the current choice is correct in that my Indy has the > R4600 cache bug mentioned in IDT's errata. But the *_r4600 version > also has some inline assembler under an ifdef CONFIG_SGI which > appears to do something to the SGI scache. But since I have > no scache, I get a bus error irq instead. > > It seems a bit strange that r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600 > has this bit of SGI specific code, but r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32 > does not. ??? The R4400 versions of the Indy have the "real" second level cache and use a SC CPU version. Opposed to that the L2 cache of the R4600 and R5000 Indies is controlled by external circuitry which needs special code. Actually since we have the same problem on a couple of other machines, SNI RM family one of them, what should be done is to break out all the #ifugly'ed SGI bits and provide some hooks for them. You L2 less machine would simply plug an empty function into these hooks. Using r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32 was definately wrong, the R4600 cache is two way set associative and flush_page_to_ram needs to take care of that for all the R4600 and R5000 relatives. Ralf From ralf@dns.cobaltmicro.com Wed Sep 24 10:55:12 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id KAA21088; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:55:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:55:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA20896; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:15:11 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709240715.AAA20896@dns.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: glibc 2.0.4 bug ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com, drepper@cygnus.com Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 535 Lines: 14 Hi all, glibc 2.0.4 contains a fatal bug. It does not declare a prototype for the function llseek in unistd.h. As result GCC will (correctly) truncate the 64 bit file offset and build erroneous filesystems when building filesystems of 2GB. e2fsck will complain about read errors when trying to read blocks from the 2GB border on. Actually I wonder why I never saw a report about that on other mailinglists. Quickfix: add the following prototype for llseek(2): extern loff_t llseek (int fd, loff_t offset, int whence); Ralf From drepper@cygnus.com Wed Sep 24 19:16:54 1997 Received: from cygint.cygnus.com (cygnus.com [205.180.230.20]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id TAA24926; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:16:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:16:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost.cygnus.com (rtl.cygnus.com [205.180.230.21]) by cygint.cygnus.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA16923; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709241716.KAA16923@cygint.cygnus.com> To: ralf@cobaltmicro.com Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: glibc 2.0.4 bug ... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:15:10 -0700 (PDT)" References: <199709240715.AAA20896@dns.cobaltmicro.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.34.1 X-fingerprint: BE 3B 21 04 BC 77 AC F0 61 92 E4 CB AC DD B9 5A Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:16:35 -0700 From: Ulrich Drepper Content-Length: 582 Lines: 15 From: Ralf Baechle Subject: glibc 2.0.4 bug ... Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:15:10 -0700 (PDT) > Quickfix: add the following prototype for llseek(2): > > extern loff_t llseek (int fd, loff_t offset, int whence); I've mentioned this several times: llseek is an internal function. What we need is the LFS interface which then defines lseek64. -- Uli ---------------. drepper@cygnus.com ,-. Rubensstrasse 5 Ulrich Drepper \ ,-------------------' \ 76149 Karlsruhe/Germany Cygnus Solutions `--' drepper@gnu.ai.mit.edu `------------------------ From paul@suede.sw.oz.au Thu Sep 25 00:03:48 1997 Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU (staff.cs.su.OZ.AU [129.78.8.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA29819; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:03:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:03:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id WAA15302; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:03:05 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suede.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suede.sw.oz.au id WAA08055; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:03:04 GMT (SMI-8.6/1.34) (from paul for ) From: paul@softway.com.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199709242203.WAA08055@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: DS3100 To: dittman@hibernia.dseg.ti.com (Eric Dittman) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:03:03 +1000 (EST) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr (Linux MIPS mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199709242157.QAA16825@hibernia.dseg.ti.com> from "Eric Dittman" at Sep 24, 97 04:57:38 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1792 Lines: 41 Eric, > Paul, I have a DECstation 3100 I was hoping to use with Linux. > Unfortunately, I no longer have room for the 3100 and need to > dispose of it. I don't want to trash it, since it does work (16MB > RAM, mono VFB module). I want to give it away for the price of > shipping. I don't, however, want to give it to just anyone; I want > the 3100 to go to where it would do the most good. Any ideas? I have cc'd in the Linux/MIPS mailing list, as this is probably the best source of "deserving bodies" who might actually be able to do something with it. I would further qualify things by saying that I think a free box like this should go to someone who is both capable of doing kernel work on it, and has some time to devote to the project. I'd be happy if someone on the mailing list knows someone like this who could be brought into the project with the donation of this hardware. The hardware is: > This is just the box; no cables, keyboards, mice, monitors, disks, > etc. I'm guessing that shipping would cost about $20US (for US > destinations). > > Eric Dittman Raytheon TI Systems - Component Test Facility > dittman@hibernia.dseg.ti.com (972) 462-4292 > Disclaimer: Not even my opinions. I found them by the side of the road. We'll see what we can do!! Warmest regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From "s h m"@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 26 03:07:02 1997 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA10465; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 03:07:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 03:07:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA21267 for <@sgi.engr.sgi.com:linux-mips@fnet.fr>; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:06:51 -0700 env-from ("s h m"@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA28871 for <@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com:linux-mips@fnet.fr>; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:06:51 -0700 Received: from tantrik (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA11337 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: shm@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: <342B0A9D.167E@engr.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:06:37 -0700 From: Shrijeet Mukherjee <"s h m"@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> Organization: unorganized X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.5-ALPHA-1274090336 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: would like to help .. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 731 Lines: 21 Have a crummy r3k indigo at home .. willing to use it for any porting help I can supply .. give me a task .. -- WARRIOR's AGAINST SPAM UNITE :- Send email to the address in the signature (but not everyone, as that would be spam ;-)) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Shrijeet Mukherjee, Visual and Graphics Systems Group Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember, life is not about what happens to you but what you make of what happens to you. Everyone dies, but not everyone fully lives. From ralf@mail2.cobaltmicro.com Fri Sep 26 08:56:28 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA13675; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:56:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:56:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dull.cobaltmicro.com (dull.cobaltmicro.com [209.19.61.35]) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA31430; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:56:37 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dull.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10018; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:54:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199709260654.XAA10018@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: would like to help .. To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, shm@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:54:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <342B0A9D.167E@engr.sgi.com> from "Shrijeet Mukherjee" at Sep 25, 97 06:06:37 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 789 Lines: 24 Hi, > Have a crummy r3k indigo at home .. willing to use it for any porting > help I can supply .. > > give me a task .. Well, things for R3k machines aren't as easy as they look. The key thing for porting a operating system within a sane time is documentation and I'd not wonder if that is no longer available. I sent a query regarding documentation for these old machines, maybe somebody still has some paper or files around. Also SGI has it's own Linux mailing list for porting linux to their machines. You as an SGI engineer can subscribe to the 'linux' list by sending mail to majordomo@engr. > WARRIOR's AGAINST SPAM UNITE :- Send email to the address in the > signature Make a notch in your keyboard for Cyberpromo, they currently seem to have a bit of trouble ... Ralf From hkoerfg1@ford.com Fri Sep 26 15:24:54 1997 Received: from mailfw2.ford.com ([136.1.1.27]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id PAA16736; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:24:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:24:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by mailfw2.ford.com id AA23339 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:23:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199709261323.AA23339@mailfw2.ford.com> Received: by mailfw2.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:23:25 -0400 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: Ford Motor Company To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:21:20 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: DECstation News Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Content-Length: 1366 Lines: 39 Hello again, I haven't had time to spent in kernel hacking the last few month but this week I got a 5000/240 and started playing around with this thing. First result: This beast won't boot via tftp (broken PROM). Now I have to find out how to convert the kernel image into a MOP file and boot via mopd :-(. Now the good news. By searching Digital's Web Site about Information on this behaviour I stumbled across: "The Design of the DEC 3000 AXP Systems, Two High-performance Workstations" (http://www.digital.com/info/DTJ804/DTJ804PF.pdf). In Chapter "6 I/O Subsystem" it says: "[...] I/O Module-IOCTL ASIC A key I/O subsystem design decision was to reduce time-to-market by eliminating unnecessary new hardware and software development. To support most of the I/O functionality, the designers chose the IOCTL ASIC developed for the DECstation 5000 Model 240. [...]" and to make things even better, these Alpha Workstations are pretty well documented :-). You may want to have a look at the "DEC 3000 300/400/500/600/700/800/900 AXP Models System Programmer's Manual" available online at ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/ek-d3sys-pm.ps.gz. >From what I have read so far, this I/O-Subsystem seems to be nearly the same in all IOASIC DECstations, i.e. 5000/xx, 5000/1xx and 5000/240. There is hope! may the source be with you Harald From flo@mini.gt.owl.de Fri Sep 26 16:31:46 1997 Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (root@noose.gt.owl.de [194.121.202.24]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id QAA17507; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:31:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:31:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mini.gt.owl.de (flo@mini.gt.owl.de [194.121.202.18]) by noose.gt.owl.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11403 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:31:27 +0200 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by mini.gt.owl.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09695 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:31:26 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:31:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Florian Lohoff Reply-To: Florian Lohoff To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation News In-Reply-To: <199709261323.AA23339@mailfw2.ford.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1405 Lines: 34 On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > Hello again, > > I haven't had time to spent in kernel hacking the last few month but > this week I got a 5000/240 and started playing around with this > thing. First result: This beast won't boot via tftp (broken PROM). > Now I have to find out how to convert the kernel image into a MOP > file and boot via mopd :-(. I had no linux kernel but tried to boot a netbsd kernel via tftp on the same machine (5000/240). The Boot Prom told me that the normal BSD Kernel was no ECOFF (a.out blafufasel) and the NFS Kernel crashed after starting. As i have an EProm Programmer i will have a look at the Proms. Somebody opened one of those machines ? Std EProm or what kind of (NV)R[ao]m is on the Mainboard ? BTW: Could someone give me a small hint where to get newest Linux-Mips development kernel and maybe a cross-compiler to develop on a different linux-i386 box with the tftp server. BTW: I might put 1 or 2 Decstations online for development for everyone ( 5000/240 and 5000/150 ). Maybe ill develop a remote reset|power switch so that remote developers may reboot the DecStation and have a Null-Modem cable to a serial port on an development station. If there is enough feedback ill try my best. Flo -- Florian Lohoff mailto:flo@mini.gt.owl.de Phone:+49-5241-470566 Privates Internet Ostwestfalen-Lippe, Guetersloh - http://www.gt.owl.de From harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Fri Sep 26 18:19:49 1997 Received: from ns1.netcologne.de (ns1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.70]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA18436; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:19:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:19:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from franz.netcologne.de by ns1.netcologne.de (8.6.12/NetCologne/marvin/netsafe-a0020) id ; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:56:03 +0200 with SMTP X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: harry@franz.netcologne.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 17:14:52 +0200 (MEST) From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation News Content-Length: 1734 Lines: 57 On 26-Sep-97 Florian Lohoff wrote: [no success in booting a DS5000/240 via tftp snipped] >I had no linux kernel but tried to boot a netbsd kernel via tftp on >the same machine (5000/240). The Boot Prom told me that the normal >BSD Kernel was no ECOFF (a.out blafufasel) and the NFS Kernel >crashed after starting. I'd be happy to come so far. My Boot Prom shows me >>boot 3/tftp ??? ? PC: 0x80021fe4 ? CR: 0x30000010 ? SR: 0x30080000 ? VA: 0xa000ef3a >> and no packet is hitting the wire (tested with tcpdump). What Prom Version do you have? Mine is V5.1b. >As i have an EProm Programmer i will have a look at the Proms. Somebody >opened one of those machines ? Std EProm or what kind of (NV)R[ao]m >is on the Mainboard ? Yes, I have opened the box. The Prom is a standard 27c020 Eprom. >BTW: Could someone give me a small hint where to get newest Linux-Mips >development kernel and maybe a cross-compiler to develop on a different >linux-i386 box with the tftp server. The latest DECstation kernel is available at ftp.fnet.fr/pub/system/linux/Mips/ftp.softway.com.au/linux-2.1.14.2.dec.tar.gz. IIRC the cross-development tools should be available somewhere in /pub/system/linux/Mips/crossdev. >BTW: I might put 1 or 2 Decstations >online for development for everyone ( 5000/240 and 5000/150 ). Maybe ill >develop a remote reset|power switch so that remote developers may reboot >the DecStation and have a Null-Modem cable to a serial port on an >development station. This sounds like fun. Especially the 5000/150 might be of interest, because it has a 50 Mhz R4?00 daughterboard. >If there is enough feedback ill try my best. Yes, please. -- regards Harald Koerfgen From lucien@tardis.ed.ac.uk Sat Sep 27 03:55:49 1997 Received: from tardis.ed.ac.uk (root@brigadier.tardis.ed.ac.uk [193.62.81.14]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id DAA23230; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 03:55:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 03:55:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk (lucien@tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk [193.62.81.1]) by tardis.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7/TardisMailhub) with ESMTP id CAA11036 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 02:55:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (lucien@localhost) by tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7/TardisClientv2) with SMTP id CAA06570 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 02:55:42 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: tardis.tardis.ed.ac.uk: lucien owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 02:55:42 +0100 (BST) From: Lucien Murray-Pitts To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: MIPS R2k/3k machines.... In-Reply-To: <342B0A9D.167E@engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 471 Lines: 15 Hello to all, I too, like the several other people, want to help port Linux to the older 2k and 3k systems BUT like all the others I am hindered by a total LACK of documentation. I did manage to find one nice chap who gave me some docco. but unfortuantely it was for the R4Ks, however... Does ANYONE have ANY technical INFORMATION which might be of use to all of us port of linux. No matter how small, silly or whatever I'd like to hear about it. Yours, Lucien From ralf@dns.cobaltmicro.com Sat Sep 27 04:24:23 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id EAA23807; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 04:24:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 04:24:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03105; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:24:36 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709270224.TAA03105@dns.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: MIPS R2k/3k machines.... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:24:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from "Lucien Murray-Pitts" at Sep 27, 97 02:55:42 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 894 Lines: 22 Hi, > I too, like the several other people, want to help port Linux to > the older 2k and 3k systems BUT like all the others I am hindered by a > total LACK of documentation. I did manage to find one nice chap who gave > me some docco. but unfortuantely it was for the R4Ks, however... I assume you only refer to the system documentation. The CPU documentation is available for free from {sgigate,www}.sgi.com and a couple of Mips silicon manufacturers like {ftp,www}.idt.com and others more. > Does ANYONE have ANY technical INFORMATION which might be of use > to all of us port of linux. > > No matter how small, silly or whatever I'd like to hear about it. I asked some people at SGI and they'll try to dig out what still exists. Somebody came up with a quite nice link for owners of historic SGI machines. Check out the site, there is a link to it on www.linux.sgi.com. Ralf From paul@suede.sw.oz.au Mon Sep 29 00:05:34 1997 Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU (staff.cs.su.OZ.AU [129.78.8.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA08020; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:05:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:05:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id WAA17030; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:05:02 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suede.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suede.sw.oz.au id WAA25404; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:05:02 GMT (SMI-8.6/1.34) (from paul for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@softway.com.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199709282205.WAA25404@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: DECstation News To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:04:59 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Florian Lohoff" at Sep 26, 97 04:31:26 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1465 Lines: 32 Florian Lohoff wrote: > I had no linux kernel but tried to boot a netbsd kernel via tftp on > the same machine (5000/240). The Boot Prom told me that the normal > BSD Kernel was no ECOFF (a.out blafufasel) and the NFS Kernel > crashed after starting. The Boot PROM doesn't know how to boot an a.out kernel image - it needs ECOFF. The Linux/MIPS cross-development tools include the ability to create an ECOFF image (or you should try the Linux/MIPS test kernel mentioned in other email). > BTW: Could someone give me a small hint where to get newest Linux-Mips > development kernel and maybe a cross-compiler to develop on a different > linux-i386 box with the tftp server. BTW: I might put 1 or 2 Decstations > online for development for everyone ( 5000/240 and 5000/150 ). Maybe ill > develop a remote reset|power switch so that remote developers may reboot > the DecStation and have a Null-Modem cable to a serial port on an > development station. Sounds like a neat idea... Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From paul@suede.sw.oz.au Mon Sep 29 02:43:26 1997 Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU (staff.cs.su.OZ.AU [129.78.8.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA09859; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:43:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:43:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id AAA20407; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:41:36 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suede.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suede.sw.oz.au id AAA27919; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:41:35 GMT (SMI-8.6/1.34) (from paul for ) From: paul@softway.com.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199709290041.AAA27919@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... To: afritz@iname.com (Adam Fritzler) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:41:34 +1000 (EST) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr (Linux MIPS mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199709271715.NAA20062@ren.globecomm.net> from "Adam Fritzler" at Sep 27, 97 10:15:50 am Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2647 Lines: 59 Adam, > Has there been any progress in the Linux/MIPS port to DECstations in > the 5 months since the web page has been updated? It seems quite > slow-moving compared to most Linux efforts these days! :) Some of us have been pretty busy in our real lives... my job as CEO of this organisation has consumed up to 18 hours per day, 6 days a week, over the last 8 months, which is simply *not* conducive to doing much work on the port! :-( > I could probably be of more help now that I have plenty of > experience with Linux kernel code. (I've emersed myself into the > Linux/m68k for Macintosh port -- much the same postition as the > DECstation stuff: little to no documentation.) I haven't looked at > any of the MIPS code in almost a year, so if you have anything that > isn't available off the web page, let me know. I began another round of re-integration with what was then the main tree, which is now out of date. I feel I should do that in order to be able to hand it over cleanly. > Has there been any luck in getting docs from DEC? (If you need > scanning and OCR capabilities, let me know -- I just got myself a > wonderful new HP scanner! :) It could save you some shipping costs > since they will probably be coming from inside the states (where I > happen to be). No documents have come to light, though someone on the Linux/MIPS mailing list mentioned that the Alpha AXP3000 uses the same ASIC as the 5000/240, and is well-documented! > Also just making sure you're still alive down there... > Adam > > ( Adam Fritzler afritz@iname.com ) > http://afritz.base.org/ > > Linux/mac68k: (Linux for 68k Macintoshes) > http://www.maclinux.org/ > http://afritz.base.org/linux-mac68k/ ...and kicking!! Just *real* busy... I hope to have some holidays in the latter half of October, and want to get the source together properly then. I would be quite willing to hand over co-ordination of the project to you (or anyone else!) if you'd like to do that and have the time (I would still contribute of course!). In the meantime, look at what's there and we can chat via email/mailing list. Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From Regan@bde.com.au Mon Sep 29 02:15:04 1997 Received: from server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.41]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id CAA09707; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:15:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:15:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA03720; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:14:57 +1000 (EST) Received: from bde.com.au (gamers.ozemail.com.au [203.7.189.162]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA21074; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:14:53 +1000 (EST) Received: by bde.com.au with NT SMTP Gateway ver 31 id <342EF445@bde.com.au>; Mon, 29 Sep 97 11:20:21 S From: Regan Russell To: linux-mips , linux , linux-mips-request Subject: RE: MIPS R2k/3k machines.... Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 11:11:00 S Message-ID: <342EF445@bde.com.au> Encoding: 46 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Length: 1522 Lines: 45 Look for "The mips programmers refenence manual". (Faquar and Bunce ?) ( R2000 / R3000 ) "The MIPS RISC architecture". (Kane ?) ( mentions R4000 but contrates on the R2000 / R3000 ) Both books were availible recently. I have both books at home, (I do complete crap in windoze for a living), also look at xspim and spim the simulator for the R2000, R3000. Think it was on sunsite... Hope this helps.. PS. Anyone got a spare motherboard for a DS3100 ? ---------- From: linux-mips-request Sent: Friday, September 26, 1997 7:24 PM To: linux-mips; linux Subject: Re: MIPS R2k/3k machines.... Hi, > I too, like the several other people, want to help port Linux to > the older 2k and 3k systems BUT like all the others I am hindered by a > total LACK of documentation. I did manage to find one nice chap who gave > me some docco. but unfortuantely it was for the R4Ks, however... I assume you only refer to the system documentation. The CPU documentation is available for free from {sgigate,www}.sgi.com and a couple of Mips silicon manufacturers like {ftp,www}.idt.com and others more. > Does ANYONE have ANY technical INFORMATION which might be of use > to all of us port of linux. > > No matter how small, silly or whatever I'd like to hear about it. I asked some people at SGI and they'll try to dig out what still exists. Somebody came up with a quite nice link for owners of historic SGI machines. Check out the site, there is a link to it on www.linux.sgi.com. Ralf From blom@e.kth.se Mon Sep 29 08:55:46 1997 Received: from elixir.e.kth.se (sendmail@elixir.e.kth.se [130.237.48.5]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA11348; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:55:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:55:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tintin.e.kth.se (tintin.e.kth.se [130.237.48.35]) by elixir.e.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA14304 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:55:40 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: blom@elixir.e.kth.se Message-ID: <342F50EC.167E@e.kth.se> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:55:40 +0200 From: Mats Blomstrand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Content-Length: 0 Lines: 0 From paul@suede.sw.oz.au Wed Oct 1 00:54:19 1997 Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU (staff.cs.su.OZ.AU [129.78.8.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id AAA02705; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:54:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:54:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id WAA22075; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:53:18 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suede.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suede.sw.oz.au id WAA01040; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:53:17 GMT (SMI-8.6/1.34) (from paul for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@softway.com.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199709302253.WAA01040@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 08:53:14 +3400 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199709302112.OAA04252@dull.cobaltmicro.com> from "Ralf Baechle" at Sep 30, 97 02:12:04 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1460 Lines: 43 Hi Gang, Ralf wrote: > Ok, bug #1: > > > [...] > lw k1, THREAD_PGDIR(k1) > sll k0, k0, 2 > addu k1, k1, k0 > mfc0 k0, CP0_CONTEXT > lw k1, (k1) > srl k0, k0, 1 > and k0, k0, 0xffc > addu k1, k1, k0 > lw k0, (k1) > [...] > > Unlike the R4000 (64bit!) the R3000 context register refers to an > array of four byte entries. So you must delete the srl instruction. ...I should probably say that I think this code is of dubious parentage! It would probably be best for you to look closely at the MMU code. I was only just getting my head around the R3K MMU when I ran out of time to keep working on it, so I'd suggest you might even want to throw it away and write it again! Once the MMU code is up I'm expecting that we'll then spend most of our time on device driver code (which is a bit easier!), so if you're able to help here, Ralf, we should be able to move forward a lot faster. Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From digr@earthlink.net Tue Sep 30 08:33:28 1997 Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr (louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr [194.199.90.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA21613; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:33:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:33:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from us020552.interramp.com (1Cust178.tnt5.sfo3.da.uu.net [153.37.15.178]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA01511 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <343080B7.388E@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:31:51 -0500 From: Lance Reed X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Great Site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 414 Lines: 17 Hello, I just rasn across our website for LINUX/MIPS. I recently acquired a MIPS Magnum 4000SC-50. The original NT install in all messed up. I am seriously thinking of making it into a Linux machine, now that I have found your site. I am just getting into this myself. I think your site is great, and I would love to learn more about this project. Thanks, Lance Reed digr@earthlink.net lance@boomerang.com From paul@suede.sw.oz.au Tue Sep 30 06:59:49 1997 Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU (staff.cs.su.OZ.AU [129.78.8.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id GAA20757; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:59:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:59:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id EAA27825; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:59:21 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suede.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suede.sw.oz.au id EAA21090; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:59:21 GMT (SMI-8.6/1.34) (from paul for ) From: paul@softway.com.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199709300459.EAA21090@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... To: afritz@iname.com (Adam Fritzler) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:59:20 +1000 (EST) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr (Linux MIPS mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199709300347.XAA10478@ren.globecomm.net> from "Adam Fritzler" at Sep 29, 97 08:47:20 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2898 Lines: 81 Hi Adam, > >I began another round of re-integration with what was then the main > >tree, which is now out of date. I feel I should do that in order to > >be able to hand it over cleanly. > > Is that the 2.1.14 set available on your web page? Yep. > I just tried it on my 5k/25 and got all the way to a page fault in the > swapper! (39.01 Bogos!) Much farther along than I thought. :) Yay! Yes, there was a spurt of good work in the first few months of the year, when I integrated lots of code from various people, cleaned up lots of other code, *and* wrote new code too! > >No documents have come to light, though someone on the Linux/MIPS > >mailing list mentioned that the Alpha AXP3000 uses the same ASIC as > >the 5000/240, and is well-documented! > > Which ASIC is that? (function-wise) I'm not sure - the TURBO-channel one I assume... > What documentation is available at the moment? (Besides the ps docs at > gatekeeper) Here is the email from Harald that mentions them: "The Design of the DEC 3000 AXP Systems, Two High-performance Workstations" (http://www.digital.com/info/DTJ804/DTJ804PF.pdf). In Chapter "6 I/O Subsystem" it says: "[...] I/O Module-IOCTL ASIC A key I/O subsystem design decision was to reduce time-to-market by eliminating unnecessary new hardware and software development. To support most of the I/O functionality, the designers chose the IOCTL ASIC developed for the DECstation 5000 Model 240. [...]" and to make things even better, these Alpha Workstations are pretty well documented :-). You may want to have a look at the "DEC 3000 300/400/500/600/700/800/900 AXP Models System Programmer's Manual" available online at: ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/ek-d3sys-pm.ps.gz. From what I have read so far, this I/O-Subsystem seems to be nearly the same in all IOASIC DECstations, i.e. 5000/xx, 5000/1xx and 5000/240. There is hope! > I might be able to handle co-cooridation of the project. Just what > is the proper way to subscribe to the Linux/MIPS mailing list? I > got a couple of subscription confirmed messages over a year ago and > have never recieved any other messages! > > Adam > ( Adam Fritzler afritz@iname.com ) > http://afritz.base.org/ I think something happened when the list was moved... you could try again (I've cc'd this into the list so others may answer the question for you). Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From ralf@mail2.cobaltmicro.com Tue Sep 30 08:46:50 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id IAA22585; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:46:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:46:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dull.cobaltmicro.com (dull.cobaltmicro.com [209.19.61.35]) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18732; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:46:53 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dull.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA27857; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:44:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199709300644.XAA27857@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: afritz@iname.com In-Reply-To: <199709300459.EAA21090@suede.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Sep 30, 97 02:59:20 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2303 Lines: 53 Hi all, > > >I began another round of re-integration with what was then the main > > >tree, which is now out of date. I feel I should do that in order to > > >be able to hand it over cleanly. > > > > Is that the 2.1.14 set available on your web page? > > Yep. I'd like to mention that due to popular demand (Some commercial embedded projects just didn't choose Linux/MIPS because there was no "stable" release 2.0 available) I'm working on backporting most of the MIPS stuff implemented for 2.1.x back to 2.0.30+. I hope to get it stable this week, at least that is the deadline I'm imposing on myself ... That should also give you DECstation people some slowly moving source base to start from. > > I just tried it on my 5k/25 and got all the way to a page fault in the > > swapper! (39.01 Bogos!) Much farther along than I thought. :) > > Yay! Yes, there was a spurt of good work in the first few months of > the year, when I integrated lots of code from various people, cleaned > up lots of other code, *and* wrote new code too! Could you guys tell me, in which routine the kernel actually died? It might be that I can fix things very easily. > > I might be able to handle co-cooridation of the project. Just what > > is the proper way to subscribe to the Linux/MIPS mailing list? I > > got a couple of subscription confirmed messages over a year ago and > > have never recieved any other messages! Subscription is handled manually be me and a couple of other people. Is it possible that you tried to subscribe to linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu? That's a Majordomo mailing list, but nobody is using that list. The only actually active mailing lists are: - linux-mips@fnet.fr, (for subscription send mail to linux-mips-request@fnet.fr) or me. - linux@engr.sgi.com (for subscription send mail to majordomo@engr.sgi.com) This list is primarily oriented towards _development_ of Linux for SGI machines but also currently has the main traffic. > I think something happened when the list was moved... you could try > again (I've cc'd this into the list so others may answer the question > for you). That move was back in '95, I can not imagine that that is the problem. Whatever, Fritz, if you'd like me to (re-)subscribe you to linux-mips, please drop me a mail. Ralf From hkoerfg1@ford.com Tue Sep 30 11:06:27 1997 Received: from mailfw1.ford.com (mailfw1.ford.com [136.1.1.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id LAA23639; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:06:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:06:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by mailfw1.ford.com id AA03280 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:05:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199709300905.AA03280@mailfw1.ford.com> Received: by mailfw1.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:05:57 -0400 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: Ford Motor Company To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:03:51 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Cc: afritz@iname.com Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <199709300459.EAA21090@suede.sw.oz.au> References: <199709300347.XAA10478@ren.globecomm.net> from "Adam Fritzler" at Sep 29, 97 08:47:20 pm X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Content-Length: 1275 Lines: 34 Hi all, > > I just tried it on my 5k/25 and got all the way to a page fault in the > > swapper! (39.01 Bogos!) Much farther along than I thought. :) Adam, I'm afraid I have to disappoint you. A small patch hasn't made it into Paul's 2.1.14.2.dec Kernel and your BogoMIPS reading is by factor of 1.5625 to high. Change HZ in include/asm-mips/param.h to 64 and you should get a "real BogoMIPS"(tm) reading of 24.97 (just kidding ;-)). > > Yay! Yes, there was a spurt of good work in the first few months of > the year, when I integrated lots of code from various people, > cleaned up lots of other code, *and* wrote new code too! > > > >No documents have come to light, though someone on the Linux/MIPS > > >mailing list mentioned that the Alpha AXP3000 uses the same ASIC as > > >the 5000/240, and is well-documented! > > > > Which ASIC is that? (function-wise) > > I'm not sure - the TURBO-channel one I assume... This I/O Module-IOCTL ASIC is the glue logic, that holds the I/O Subsystem together. *All* I/O Ports on the IOASIC DECstations (5000/xx, 5000/1xx and 5000/2x0) are addressed through this ASIC and it even supports DMA-Channels for the SCSI, Ethernet and Serial Ports. The Manual I've mentioned seems to be worth a look. Keep hacking, Harald From hkoerfg1@ford.com Tue Sep 30 11:29:03 1997 Received: from mailfw1.ford.com (mailfw1.ford.com [136.1.1.26]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id LAA24190; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:28:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:28:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by mailfw1.ford.com id AA04028 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:28:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199709300928.AA04028@mailfw1.ford.com> Received: by mailfw1.ford.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:28:28 -0400 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: Ford Motor Company To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:26:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <199709300644.XAA27857@dull.cobaltmicro.com> References: <199709300459.EAA21090@suede.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Sep 30, 97 02:59:20 pm X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Content-Length: 1535 Lines: 44 Hello, > I'd like to mention that due to popular demand (Some commercial > embedded projects just didn't choose Linux/MIPS because there was no > "stable" release 2.0 available) I'm working on backporting most of > the MIPS stuff implemented for 2.1.x back to 2.0.30+. I hope to get > it stable this week, at least that is the deadline I'm imposing on > myself ... That should also give you DECstation people some slowly > moving source base to start from. That's great. > Could you guys tell me, in which routine the kernel actually died? > It might be that I can fix things very easily. Well, yesterday evening I spent a few hours hacking my new 240 DECstation (39.85 "real BogoMIPS"(tm) BTW). This $=A7%&/=A7(/ Box can't boot via tftp, so I had to choose the hard way: boot ultrix, download new kernel, shutdown, boot new kernel via Ultrixboot, turn DECstation off, turn DECstation on, boot ultrix ... To make a long story short, I don't have the exact output at hand here at work but the first debug output tells someting about: [swapper 0] Illegal instruction at Address . The instruction that causes this exception is: > ... >reload_pgd_entries: >#endif /* CONF_DEBUG_TLB */ > > /* Load missing pair of entries from the pgd and return. */ > mfc0 k1,CP0_CONTEXT > nop > lw k0,(k1) #Never causes nested exception > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > mfc0 k1,CP0_EPC # get the return PC > ... in arch/mips/kernel/r2300_misc.S. Hope this helps Harald From ralf@mail2.cobaltmicro.com Tue Sep 30 12:45:16 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id MAA25017; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:45:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:45:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dull.cobaltmicro.com (dull.cobaltmicro.com [209.19.61.35]) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19622 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:45:14 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dull.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA00839 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:43:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199709301043.DAA00839@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:42:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199709300928.AA04028@mailfw1.ford.com> from "Harald Koerfgen" at Sep 30, 97 11:26:23 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2073 Lines: 53 Hi, > > I'd like to mention that due to popular demand (Some commercial > > embedded projects just didn't choose Linux/MIPS because there was no > > "stable" release 2.0 available) I'm working on backporting most of > > the MIPS stuff implemented for 2.1.x back to 2.0.30+. I hope to get > > it stable this week, at least that is the deadline I'm imposing on > > myself ... That should also give you DECstation people some slowly > > moving source base to start from. > > That's great. > > > Could you guys tell me, in which routine the kernel actually died? > > It might be that I can fix things very easily. > > Well, yesterday evening I spent a few hours hacking my new 240 > DECstation (39.85 "real BogoMIPS"(tm) BTW). This $§%&/§(/ Box can't > boot via tftp, so I had to choose the hard way: boot ultrix, download > new kernel, shutdown, boot new kernel via Ultrixboot, turn DECstation > off, turn DECstation on, boot ultrix ... > > To make a long story short, I don't have the exact output at hand > here at work but the first debug output tells someting about: > > [swapper 0] Illegal instruction at Address . > > The instruction that causes this exception is: > > > ... > >reload_pgd_entries: > >#endif /* CONF_DEBUG_TLB */ > > > > /* Load missing pair of entries from the pgd and return. */ > > mfc0 k1,CP0_CONTEXT > > nop > > lw k0,(k1) #Never causes nested exception > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > mfc0 k1,CP0_EPC # get the return PC > > ... > > in arch/mips/kernel/r2300_misc.S. Ok, I was suspecting something like that. That particular TLB exception handler has to be pretty different from the R4000 version. It's doing a very trivial piece of work. The only thing that makes it a bit more complicated is the fact that the TLB exception handlers have to be even more optimized than Microsoft's hype. In fact the current handlers are all far to bulky. I'm not shure which source tree you're using. Could you post the TLB exception handler from that tree? Ralf From easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu Tue Sep 30 18:25:52 1997 Received: from c11110-211dan.ece.ncsu.edu (c11110-211dan.ece.ncsu.edu [152.1.59.140]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id SAA28356; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:25:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:25:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu Received: (from easchwei@localhost) by c11110-211dan.ece.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC02Jan97) id MAA10081 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709301625.MAA10081@c11110-211dan.ece.ncsu.edu> Subject: Linux on DECstations To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:25:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 137 Lines: 8 Hello, We have some spare DECstations we'd like to set up on a small network running Linux. What is the status of the port? -- Eric From harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de Tue Sep 30 21:27:42 1997 Received: from ns1.netcologne.de (ns1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.70]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with SMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id VAA29463; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:27:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:27:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from franz.netcologne.de by ns1.netcologne.de (8.6.12/NetCologne/marvin/netsafe-a0020) id ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:03:06 +0200 with SMTP X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: harry@franz.netcologne.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199709301043.DAA00839@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:54:07 +0200 (MEST) From: Harald Koerfgen To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... Content-Length: 2236 Lines: 68 Hi Ralf, On 30-Sep-97 Ralf Baechle wrote: [snip] >> [swapper 0] Illegal instruction at Address . >> >> The instruction that causes this exception is: >> >> > ... >> >reload_pgd_entries: >> >#endif /* CONF_DEBUG_TLB */ >> > >> > /* Load missing pair of entries from the pgd and return. */ >> > mfc0 k1,CP0_CONTEXT >> > nop >> > lw k0,(k1) #Never causes nested exception >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> > mfc0 k1,CP0_EPC # get the return PC >> > ... >> >> in arch/mips/kernel/r2300_misc.S. > >Ok, I was suspecting something like that. That particular TLB exception >handler has to be pretty different from the R4000 version. It's >doing a very trivial piece of work. The only thing that makes it >a bit more complicated is the fact that the TLB exception handlers >have to be even more optimized than Microsoft's hype. In fact the >current handlers are all far to bulky. > >I'm not shure which source tree you're using. Could you post the >TLB exception handler from that tree? > > Ralf I am still hacking Paul's 2.1.14.2.dec kernel. After messing around with head.S yesterday I restored to Paul's original head.S this evening and now I am getting a different error message: .. About to init memory mem_init called with start_mem: 8018a018, end_mem: 82fff000 mem_init now has start_mem: 8018b000, end_mem: 82fff000 Memory: 47568k/49148k available (524k kernel code, 864k data) About to init buffers memsize is: 2fff000 about to vmalloc hash table vmalloc'd hash table, addr is: c0000000 about to clear hash table [swapper:0:00000822:1:8003aab8]do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to swapper fo r illegal writeaccess to 00000822 (epc == 8003aab8, ra == 80070e54) which makes a *little* bit more sense to me. Strange, even the smallest changes seem to produce very different effects. Uhmmm... isn't that characteristic for chaotical behaviour? ;-) I don't want to bother this list with kBytes of listings. If you are really interested in the version of head.S I am presently using, you can download it from http://ww.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha/head.S. Thanks in advance. -- cu Harald (switched back to my 5000/133, this thing boots via tftp :-)) From ralf@mail2.cobaltmicro.com Tue Sep 30 23:14:15 1997 Received: from dns.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.1]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr with ESMTP (8.8.5/97.02.12/Guadalquivir); id XAA00979; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:14:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:14:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dull.cobaltmicro.com (dull.cobaltmicro.com [209.19.61.35]) by dns.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21781 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:14:18 -0700 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by dull.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04252 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:12:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199709302112.OAA04252@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS for DECstations... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:12:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from "Harald Koerfgen" at Sep 30, 97 08:54:07 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2120 Lines: 60 Hi, > I am still hacking Paul's 2.1.14.2.dec kernel. After messing around with head.S > yesterday I restored to Paul's original head.S this evening and now I am getting > a different error message: > > .. > About to init memory > mem_init called with start_mem: 8018a018, end_mem: 82fff000 > mem_init now has start_mem: 8018b000, end_mem: 82fff000 > Memory: 47568k/49148k available (524k kernel code, 864k data) > About to init buffers > memsize is: 2fff000 > about to vmalloc hash table > vmalloc'd hash table, addr is: c0000000 This address is ok. > about to clear hash table > [swapper:0:00000822:1:8003aab8]do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to swapper fo > r illegal writeaccess to > 00000822 (epc == 8003aab8, ra == 80070e54) > > which makes a *little* bit more sense to me. Strange, even the smallest changes > seem to produce very different effects. Uhmmm... isn't that characteristic for > chaotical behaviour? ;-) Ok, bug #1: [...] lw k1, THREAD_PGDIR(k1) sll k0, k0, 2 addu k1, k1, k0 mfc0 k0, CP0_CONTEXT lw k1, (k1) srl k0, k0, 1 and k0, k0, 0xffc addu k1, k1, k0 lw k0, (k1) [...] Unlike the R4000 (64bit!) the R3000 context register refers to an array of four byte entries. So you must delete the srl instruction. > I don't want to bother this list with kBytes of listings. If you are really > interested in the version of head.S I am presently using, you can download > it from http://ww.netcologne.de/~nc-koerfgha/head.S. Your handler seems to die in the second level exception handler. However in buffer_init(), where the vmalloc'ed memory is being cleared, the pages are always readable/writeable and therefore that handler should never be reached. Note that the way that handler in head.S is implemented the load in the handler should never cause a second fault. Nevertheless, for your case the superfluous srl instruction shouldn't make a difference. Note that the R3000 exception mechanism is a bit different from the R4000, which means I'll have to read a bit ... Ralf