From paul@suede.sw.oz.au Tue Mar 4 01:01:33 1997 Received-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:01:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20148; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:59:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from suede.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with ESMTP id AAA08695; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:01:14 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suede.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suede.sw.oz.au id LAA15665; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:01:13 +1100 (SMI-8.6/1.34) (from paul for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suede.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199703040001.LAA15665@suede.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: VAXlinux and Linux/MIPS To: linux-mips (Linux MIPS mailing list) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:01:10 +1100 (EST) Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2196 Lines: 50 Hi Karl, > Myself and Chris Nott are the port maintainers of the Linux/VAX > port. I thought I may send you a quick mail to discuss whether you > are aware of any similarities between the DECstations and the > VAXstations... Saves us re-inventing the wheel... Indeed. It would seem logical that much of the VAXstation stuff be similar to the DECstations... though I'm not sure of the geneology of the two product lines. Certainly the 2100 and 3100 DECstations look like a VAX derivative, as their serial chips are DZ11 (I'm not sure if that's the right number) based. > We too have run into the wall called lack of documentation, and a > lot of work has come from the NetBSD and 4.4BSD implemtations. So you've done a lot of reading of code... pity no one created documentation as they went. I beleive that some of the folks working on that had access to doco from DEC at the time too. > Specifically, I have heard the consoles are very similar, do you > know of where I can get some documentation? i.e. NetBSD only support > serial consoles... (easy.. uses protected registers). and the ROM > routines only work in physical mode. The only vague implemtation I > have is from 4.4BSD , with the Q-BUS console that looks roughly > similar.. Hmmm... I assume you mean the graphics consoles of the two product lines. On the personal DECstations these are built in to the motherboard, however there are plug-in Turbo-channel graphics cards too. I assume your graphics consoles are on cards that plug into the Q-BUS? Have you heard of a DECServer 5400 machine? A number of Linux/MIPS folks have these which purport to having a MIPS CPU and a Q-BUS. > Hopefully we'll be able to assist each other in the ports! Let's try to! Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From imp@village.org Thu Mar 6 17:07:15 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:07:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay2.EUnet.fr by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA14990; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:04:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org by relay2.eunet.fr (5.65c8d/96.05.03) via EUnet-France id AA20486; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:23:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w28DE-0001UJ-00; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 21:21:56 -0700 To: linux-mips Subject: Re: VAXlinux and Linux/MIPS In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:01:10 +1100." <199703040001.LAA15665@suede.sw.oz.au> References: <199703040001.LAA15665@suede.sw.oz.au> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 21:21:56 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Content-Length: 1492 Lines: 29 In message <199703040001.LAA15665@suede.sw.oz.au> Paul Antoine writes: : Indeed. It would seem logical that much of the VAXstation stuff be : similar to the DECstations... though I'm not sure of the geneology of : the two product lines. Certainly the 2100 and 3100 DECstations look : like a VAX derivative, as their serial chips are DZ11 (I'm not sure if : that's the right number) based. You should take a look at the port-vax and port-pmax archives at ftp.netbsd.org. They have a complete family tree of the two product lines. It turns out that some of them are actually very close to each other in terms of hardware, once you factor out VAX vs MIPS issues. Sadly, some of this hardware is the same hardware that is under documented and over requested in this group. : > We too have run into the wall called lack of documentation, and a : > lot of work has come from the NetBSD and 4.4BSD implemtations. : : So you've done a lot of reading of code... pity no one created : documentation as they went. I beleive that some of the folks working : on that had access to doco from DEC at the time too. That's my impression as well. The NetBSD archives talk a lot about this hardware manual, or that hardware manual. Really does help to have them. I recently got a whole boatload of manuals and data sheets from some folks I was doing some MIPS work for (potentially). If I'd had it when I started working on the rPC44 stuff, I think I wouldn't have spun my wheels so much. Warner From renato@mips.it Fri Mar 7 13:46:30 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:46:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17959; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:44:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty (root@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA00105 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:48:53 +0100 Received: from relay.mips.it (root@relay.mips.it [194.91.74.2]) by scotty (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA21932 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:42:22 +0100 Received: from mips-server (mips-server.mips.it [194.91.74.10]) by relay.mips.it (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14269 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:27:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199703070927.KAA14269@relay.mips.it> From: "Renato" To: Subject: LINUX on MIPS Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:24:02 +0100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 357 Lines: 9 Hi, I won't take up much of your time , I'm looking for a port of linux on a MIPS R5000 is there a project for this processor to be able to run linux? All suggestion you could send me are appreciated , I'm interested in setting up a machine with a MIPS R5000 and linux and if you want a mirror in Italy I'm available. Thank you for your time . O.Renato From nagy_l@vaxst2.tii.matav.hu Fri Mar 7 17:18:12 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:18:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from fw.matav.hu (hades.fw.matav.hu) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24628; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:15:17 +0100 (MET) Received: by hades.fw.matav.hu via suspension id <55568-1>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:15:33 +0100 Received: from tiivs7.tii.matav.hu ([145.236.48.148]) by hades.fw.matav.hu with SMTP id <55560-1>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:15:13 +0100 Received: from quake by tiivs7.tii.matav.hu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 07 Mar 1997 17:16:08 MET Message-Id: <33203F66.31D@vaxst2.tii.matav.hu> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:16:38 +0100 From: Lajos Nagy Reply-To: nagy_l@vaxst2.tii.matav.hu Organization: MATAV X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips Subject: Linux on SGI Indigo ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 160 Lines: 11 Hello! I have a SGI Indygo computer with R3000 Mips processor. (Irix 4.0.1 :( ) How to install the Linux my Sgi computer ??? Thanks in advance! Bye!Lajos From ryan@ravage.labs.gmu.edu Sat Mar 8 21:42:14 1997 Received-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:42:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from RAVAGE.labs.GMU.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04394; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:39:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ravage.labs.gmu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA21828 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:42:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:42:01 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Rafferty To: linux-mips Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 43 Lines: 5 subscribe Is mise le meas, Ryan Rafferty From heilmann@clri6a.gsi.de Mon Mar 10 09:44:56 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:44:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from clri6a.gsi.de by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25074; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:42:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from rzri6e.gsi.de by clri6a.gsi.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA114873; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:44:51 +0100 Sender: heilmann@clri6a.gsi.de Message-Id: <3323CA01.41C6@clri6a.gsi.de> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:45:08 +0100 From: Johannes Heilmann Organization: GSI Darmstadt X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 1) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips Cc: j.heilmann@clri6a.gsi.de Subject: linux on DEC-Stations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1265 Lines: 33 -- Hello, GSI is a medium sized high energy physics lab in Germany running a heavy ion accelerators. We have around 300 scientists staff, and around twice the number of scientists working on site. There are several 10s of DEC-Stations around, many running VMS and several ULTRIX, the latter being outphased this summer. As I am working as UNIX-Sysadmin with solid Intel-Linux experience here, people asked me about the possibility to use their DEC-Stations as somewhat intelligent X-Terminals under Linux. However, as far as I understand, the kernel is running more or less stable, but there is nothing more in software than network code and a C development suite. Is this correct? Is there a way we can help the project to make steps ahead (although we really DON'T HAVE MUCH MANPOWER). With best regards, happy linuxing Johannes Heilmann +-----------------------+--------------------------------+ | Dr. Johannes Heilmann | email: J.Heilmann@gsi.de | __o | DV & EE, GSI | fax: Germany-6159-712986 | _ \<,_ | Planckstrasse 1 | GSI: //www.gsi.de/ | (*)/ (*) | D-64291 Darmstadt | own: //www.gsi.de/~heilmann |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-----------------------+--------------------------------+ From engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de Mon Mar 10 10:06:43 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:06:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25705; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:04:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de by si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de with SMTP (5.67b/UniSiegen 1.1) id AA21013; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:06:39 +0100 Received: (from engel@localhost) by vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) id KAA16349 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:05:14 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Engel Message-Id: <199703100905.KAA16349@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Subject: Re: linux on DEC-Stations To: linux-mips Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:05:13 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <3323CA01.41C6@clri6a.gsi.de> from "Johannes Heilmann" at Mar 10, 97 09:45:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1721 Lines: 42 Hi, > There are several 10s of DEC-Stations around, many running VMS and > several ULTRIX, the latter being outphased this summer. Be careful not to confuse DECstations (MIPS based) with VAXstations (eehm ... VAX based, right ? ;-)). If you have machines running VMS, these are either VAXstations or Alphas. The only operating system that was available for the DECstations is Ultrix (well, and a pre-release of OSF/1). A port of Linux to VAXstations (2000/3100) has also been started, but is in a _very_ early stage. I can dig out the relevant URL if you like. > As I am working > as UNIX-Sysadmin with solid Intel-Linux experience here, people asked me > about the possibility to use their DEC-Stations as somewhat intelligent > X-Terminals under Linux. > However, as far as I understand, the kernel is > running more or less stable, but there is nothing more in software than > network code and a C development suite. Is this correct? Not quite. The kernel is still far from completion, so don't hold your breath. Your only option now would be running OpenBSD or NetBSD - we converted a pool of DECstations here at Siegen Univ. to OpenBSD a month or so ago. Netbooting etc. works fine, so you can also run diskless workstations. > Is there a way > we can help the project to make steps ahead (although we really DON'T > HAVE MUCH MANPOWER). Well, if you could donate a DS2100/3100 or 5000/200 (that's the machines we currently have hardware documentation for), _that_ would be nice... Currently it seems that only two people (Paul Antoine and me) are more or less actively working on the DECstation port, so every helping hand would be a plus ! regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From hkoerfg1@ford.com Mon Mar 10 11:56:07 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:56:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from internet-mail2.ford.com by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28917; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:53:47 +0100 (MET) Received: by internet-mail2.ford.com id AB24640 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:55:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199703101055.AB24640@internet-mail2.ford.com> Received: by internet-mail2.ford.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:55:56 -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: Ford Motor Company To: linux-mips Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:55:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: linux on DEC-Stations Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Content-Length: 422 Lines: 17 [snip] > > Currently it seems that only two people (Paul Antoine and me) are > more or less actively working on the DECstation port, so every > helping hand would be a plus ! > Well, add me to the list if you like. It might take a while until a am able to do useful work, but i am working on it... > regards, > Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) -- regards, Harald Koerfgen harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de From castillo@dynamic.upr.clu.edu Mon Mar 10 14:57:25 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:57:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from dynamic.UPR.CLU.EDU by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04546; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:55:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from caciopea.upr.clu.edu by dynamic.upr.clu.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id OAA02824; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:59:06 +0400 Sender: castillo@dynamic.upr.clu.edu Message-Id: <33241318.63FEF0FF@dynamic.upr.clu.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:56:40 -0400 From: Heriberto Castillo Organization: UPR RUM X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips Subject: One question... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 129 Lines: 3 Can I install Linux on a Indy R4400 or 4000? I see nothing about SGI system? are there supported or not...? Thanks in advance... From ralf@Julia.DE Mon Mar 10 16:03:47 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:03:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06682; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:01:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17342; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:00:02 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA22306; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:59:13 +0100 Message-Id: <199703101459.PAA22306@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: One question... To: linux-mips Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:59:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: castillo@dynamic.upr.clu.edu In-Reply-To: <33241318.63FEF0FF@dynamic.upr.clu.edu> from "Heriberto Castillo" at Mar 10, 97 09:56:40 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 335 Lines: 11 Hi, > Can I install Linux on a Indy R4400 or 4000? > I see nothing about SGI system? are there supported or not...? The SGI port was stalled since end of last August but it's now continuing. First target will be R4600 Indys; it might work for R4000/R4400 machines, too ... or not. Stay tuned on this channel for more news. Ralf From ralf@alles.intern.julia.de Tue Mar 11 16:42:38 1997 Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:42:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA14591; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:40:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02917 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:40:29 +0100 From: ralf@julia.de (Ralf Baechle) To: linux-mips Date: Tue Mar 11 16:40:29 MET 1997 Subject: Testing the list #1 Message-Id: test-linux-mips-1@alles.intern.julia.de Content-Length: 430 Lines: 9 This is a series of test postings to find the cause of the mail loss that some people on this list are experiencing. If you should some know that mail to you was definately lost, for example because you received test posting #1 and #3 but not #2 or because you receive the list on multiple accounts please let us (Luc.Beurton@fnet.fr, ralf@julia.de) know -- thanks. Test posting #1 sent at Tue Mar 11 16:40:29 MET 1997. Ralf From ralf@alles.intern.julia.de Tue Mar 11 16:49:11 1997 Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:49:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA14873; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:46:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02966 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:47:07 +0100 From: ralf@julia.de (Ralf Baechle) To: linux-mips Date: Tue Mar 11 16:47:07 MET 1997 Subject: Testing the list #2 Message-Id: test-linux-mips-2@alles.intern.julia.de Content-Length: 430 Lines: 9 This is a series of test postings to find the cause of the mail loss that some people on this list are experiencing. If you should some know that mail to you was definately lost, for example because you received test posting #1 and #3 but not #2 or because you receive the list on multiple accounts please let us (Luc.Beurton@fnet.fr, ralf@julia.de) know -- thanks. Test posting #2 sent at Tue Mar 11 16:47:07 MET 1997. Ralf From jctihon@ucdavis.edu Wed Mar 12 07:27:34 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:27:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from rocky.ucdavis.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA07039; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:25:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by rocky.ucdavis.edu (8.8.5/UCD3.8.5) id WAA16164; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:27:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Jack Tihon X-Sender: ez040407@rocky.ucdavis.edu To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 507 Lines: 13 Hello, I have Magnum 4000 and have a few hardware configuration questions (since it didn't come with any documentation). Which slots do I place my 2 parity SIMMs in? What video cards can I use? (will a Trident isa + 256k dram work?) What hard drive controllers can I use (isa,mfm,rll)? What should I see if I've successfully booted? What does the LED on the m/b do? (I get a F,4,5 on boot Thanks for all/any help, -jt . From ralf@Julia.DE Wed Mar 12 15:11:29 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:11:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20135; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:09:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18899; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:08:57 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA26742; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:08:21 +0100 Message-Id: <199703121408.PAA26742@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Testing the list #2 To: khp@dolphinics.no (Kai Harrekilde-Petersen) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:08:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: linux-mips In-Reply-To: <9703120827.AA27659@scimitar.dolphinics.no> from "Kai Harrekilde-Petersen" at Mar 12, 97 09:27:54 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 372 Lines: 16 Hi, > Ralf Baechle writes: > > This is a series of test postings [...] > > test > > posting #1 and #3 but not #2 > > Hmmm ... I've just seen #1 & #2. It that to be expected? Yes, that's ok, because I only sent two mails before I received a mail from Luc Beurton that he found a problem. Hopefully the list now works again as it should, Sendmail be with you, Ralf From tkuo@eos.ncsu.edu Wed Mar 12 18:31:48 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:31:47 +0100 (MET) From: tkuo@eos.ncsu.edu Received: from warp.ece.ncsu.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25927; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:29:25 +0100 (MET) Received: by warp.ece.ncsu.edu (8.6.9/EC06jan95) id MAA12245; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:31:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199703121731.MAA12245@warp.ece.ncsu.edu> Subject: Linux/MIPS how to install To: linux-mips Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:31:40 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 222 Lines: 6 We have a DECstation 5000/25 and would like to install linux on it. We obtained the latest linux mips (2.1.1), but what next? Please advise how to make boot disk out of the distribution from ftp.softway.com. Thanks, Ted From rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu Wed Mar 12 18:58:09 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:58:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26331; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:55:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA11935; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:58:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:58:05 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Rafferty To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1941 Lines: 51 On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Jack Tihon wrote: > Hello, > I have Magnum 4000 and have a few hardware configuration questions > (since it didn't come with any documentation). > Which slots do I place my 2 parity SIMMs in? You need 4 parity SIMMs, unfortunately--the MIPS R4000PC chip has a 128-bit data path (compared to the Pentium's 64-bit data path) and since a single 72-pin SIMM uses 32 bits of data (and with parity, an extra four bits for ECC) 128 div 32 is four. > What video cards can I use? (will a Trident isa + 256k dram work?) You need a special video card for the Magnum. Regular ISA or EISA cards WILL NOT WORK. The video card is a 2meg VRAM frame-buffer video card based on the INMOS g364 chipset and has a fixed frequency output of 1280x1024x256 at 60 herz. Most newer multisync monitors can handle that. Unfortunately, however, the video card is extremely expensive (quoted price is $315) and is availible from only one place--Carrera Computers. > What hard drive controllers can I use (isa,mfm,rll)? The Magnum has an onboard SCSI controller (NCR 53C90 chipset) and the ARC console only knows how to use the onboard SCSI, so you will not be able to use IDE hard disks to boot Windows NT. Linux/MIPS may or may not have support some time in the future. > What should I see if I've successfully booted? > What does the LED on the m/b do? (I get a F,4,5 on boot When the LED stops at "5", it means that there's a memory problem. You need to install four true-parity SIMMs in the slanted slots under the drive bays. > Thanks for all/any help, Good luck--Lord knows it's been a battle these last few months for me to get my MIPS to a usable state. But now it runs NT like a dream, and I'm working on getting Linux/MIPS to run on it (I've hit a stumbling block for the time being). > -jt > . > > Ryan Read my MIPS: No new VAXES! From ralf@Julia.DE Wed Mar 12 19:09:39 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:09:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26484; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:07:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21692; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:06:59 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA26998; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:06:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199703121806.TAA26998@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 To: linux-mips Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:06:24 +0100 (MET) Cc: rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu In-Reply-To: from "Ryan Rafferty" at Mar 12, 97 12:58:05 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2366 Lines: 58 Hi, > > I have Magnum 4000 and have a few hardware configuration questions > > (since it didn't come with any documentation). > > Which slots do I place my 2 parity SIMMs in? > > You need 4 parity SIMMs, unfortunately--the MIPS R4000PC chip has a > 128-bit data path (compared to the Pentium's 64-bit data path) and since a > single 72-pin SIMM uses 32 bits of data (and with parity, an extra four > bits for ECC) 128 div 32 is four. Small correction: the R4000/R4400PC have a 64bit data path "SysAD bus". The 128 bit memory interface of the board is interleaved just similar like some PCs do for better performance. The SC and MC versions of the CPU have the SysAD bus and an _additional_ 128 bit wide cache bus that makes these machines so much faster. The memory requirements is however the same for all these Magnum types. > > What video cards can I use? (will a Trident isa + 256k dram work?) > > You need a special video card for the Magnum. Regular ISA or EISA cards > WILL NOT WORK. The video card is a 2meg VRAM frame-buffer video card > based on the INMOS g364 chipset and has a fixed frequency output of > 1280x1024x256 at 60 herz. Most newer multisync monitors can handle that. > > Unfortunately, however, the video card is extremely expensive (quoted > price is $315) and is availible from only one place--Carrera Computers. > > > What hard drive controllers can I use (isa,mfm,rll)? > > The Magnum has an onboard SCSI controller (NCR 53C90 chipset) and the ARC > console only knows how to use the onboard SCSI, so you will not be able to > use IDE hard disks to boot Windows NT. Linux/MIPS may or may not have > support some time in the future. You can boot Linux/MIPS from a floppy (or SCSI if available) and then run it from IDE disks. > > What should I see if I've successfully booted? > > What does the LED on the m/b do? (I get a F,4,5 on boot > > When the LED stops at "5", it means that there's a memory problem. You > need to install four true-parity SIMMs in the slanted slots under the > drive bays. > > > Thanks for all/any help, > > Good luck--Lord knows it's been a battle these last few months for me to > get my MIPS to a usable state. But now it runs NT like a dream, and I'm ^^^^^ A typo, should spell nightmare ;-) Ralf -- 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 From imp@village.org Wed Mar 12 22:27:17 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:27:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29167; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:24:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w4vY6-00050O-00; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:27:02 -0700 To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 Cc: rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:06:24 +0100." <199703121806.TAA26998@kernel.panic.julia.de> References: <199703121806.TAA26998@kernel.panic.julia.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:27:02 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Content-Length: 953 Lines: 21 : > > What video cards can I use? (will a Trident isa + 256k dram work?) : > : > You need a special video card for the Magnum. Regular ISA or EISA cards : > WILL NOT WORK. The video card is a 2meg VRAM frame-buffer video card : > based on the INMOS g364 chipset and has a fixed frequency output of : > 1280x1024x256 at 60 herz. Most newer multisync monitors can handle that. : > : > Unfortunately, however, the video card is extremely expensive (quoted : > price is $315) and is availible from only one place--Carrera Computers. I have a line on one of these machine, sans video card. Can I take a standard PC video card and slap it in there and have it work? By work, I mean the following: will the BIOS ignore the thing until it is booted (via a serial console, say), when the OS can then take over and dittle the video card in a standard way. A $35 ISA card is a whole lot cheaper than the $315 Carrara one, no? Or am I dreaming? Warner From rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu Wed Mar 12 22:58:15 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:58:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00116; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:55:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA21338; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:58:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Rafferty To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 998 Lines: 22 On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Warner Losh wrote: > I have a line on one of these machine, sans video card. Can I take a > standard PC video card and slap it in there and have it work? Nope. > By work, I mean the following: will the BIOS ignore the thing until > it is booted (via a serial console, say), when the OS can then take > over and dittle the video card in a standard way. A $35 ISA card is a > whole lot cheaper than the $315 Carrara one, no? Sure it is. But it won't work. The MIPS Magnum console doesn't know how to use normal ISA video cards, and can't/won't send its display to them. In fact, it can't even initialize them. That's the sad fact of the matter. The ARC console only knows how to deal with g364 graphics. If you want, you can get the Risc/OS console loaded on the Magnum somehow, and it will use the serial port as a console. But AFAIK only Risc/OS can be loaded from there so of course that rules out Windows NT or Linux. Ryan Rafferty Read my MIPS: No new VAXES! From ralf@Julia.DE Wed Mar 12 23:18:40 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:18:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00676; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:16:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24611 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:16:17 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA27270 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:15:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199703122215.XAA27270@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 To: linux-mips Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:15:42 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Ryan Rafferty" at Mar 12, 97 04:58:12 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1160 Lines: 27 Hi, > > By work, I mean the following: will the BIOS ignore the thing until > > it is booted (via a serial console, say), when the OS can then take > > over and dittle the video card in a standard way. A $35 ISA card is a > > whole lot cheaper than the $315 Carrara one, no? > > Sure it is. But it won't work. The MIPS Magnum console doesn't know how > to use normal ISA video cards, and can't/won't send its display to them. > In fact, it can't even initialize them. That's the sad fact of the > matter. The ARC console only knows how to deal with g364 graphics. If > you want, you can get the Risc/OS console loaded on the Magnum somehow, > and it will use the serial port as a console. But AFAIK only Risc/OS can > be loaded from there so of course that rules out Windows NT or Linux. I bet the RISC/os console is *very* similar to the ARC firmware. Probably the only thing that is different is the byteorder. In that case it will be a snap to port Linux - recompile everything, deactivate the kernel support for the G364 card (needs a bit of hacking) and you should be there. I'll check the firmware issue out. Ralf -- 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 From ralf@Julia.DE Wed Mar 12 23:20:56 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:20:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00696; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:18:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24642 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:18:35 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA27279 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:18:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199703122218.XAA27279@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 To: linux-mips Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:18:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199703122215.XAA27270@kernel.panic.julia.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Mar 12, 97 11:15:42 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 173 Lines: 7 > > I'll check the firmware issue out. (Completly offtopic, but still ... I love this list because I got the last mail I sent back after less than 5 seconds ...) Ralf From rraffer1@osf1.gmu.edu Thu Mar 13 00:25:52 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:25:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02526; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:23:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA01581; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:25:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:25:46 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Rafferty To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 In-Reply-To: <199703122215.XAA27270@kernel.panic.julia.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1055 Lines: 30 On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > I bet the RISC/os console is *very* similar to the ARC firmware. Probably > the only thing that is different is the byteorder. In that case it will > be a snap to port Linux - recompile everything, deactivate the kernel > support for the G364 card (needs a bit of hacking) and you should be > there. That would be cool. But I have something in mind that's a little different... Would it be possible to emulate the standard IBM PC BIOS routines that ISA video cards need? I know that DEC Alpha's do this in their firmware. Another thing I was thinking -- have you taken a look at the MILO that Linux/ALPHA uses? It is a very nice console that allows standard Linux device drivers to be used before actually loading the Linux kernel. This in turn makes it possible to boot Linux from any device that a Linux device driver exists for. Could we implement something like this for Linux/MIPS? > I'll check the firmware issue out. > > Ralf > > -- > 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 > > Read my MIPS: No new VAXES! From ralf@Julia.DE Thu Mar 13 00:57:36 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:57:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03214; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:55:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26733 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:55:17 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA27438 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:54:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199703122354.AAA27438@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 To: linux-mips Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:54:43 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Ryan Rafferty" at Mar 12, 97 06:25:46 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1550 Lines: 38 Hi, > > I bet the RISC/os console is *very* similar to the ARC firmware. Probably > > the only thing that is different is the byteorder. In that case it will > > be a snap to port Linux - recompile everything, deactivate the kernel > > support for the G364 card (needs a bit of hacking) and you should be > > there. > > That would be cool. But I have something in mind that's a little > different... Would it be possible to emulate the standard IBM PC BIOS > routines that ISA video cards need? Yes; I've discussed that recently with someone and he even has already written the emulation. Aparrently the emulation is not fast bad good enough to run a UNIX on ... > I know that DEC Alpha's do this in > their firmware. > > Another thing I was thinking -- have you taken a look at the MILO that > Linux/ALPHA uses? Looong ago ... Milo contains a BIOS emulation, btw. > It is a very nice console that allows standard Linux > device drivers to be used before actually loading the Linux kernel. This > in turn makes it possible to boot Linux from any device that a Linux > device driver exists for. Could we implement something like this for > Linux/MIPS? We could, but that would still leave the question open from where we load the Milo - on the Magnum that will still be either SCSI or floppy ... and we're back to the original problem. There is of course some fancy hardware like a P4032 evaluation board which can use flash memory to boot from ... but that's no Magnum. Ralf From imp@village.org Thu Mar 13 02:29:01 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:29:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05318; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:26:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w4zKA-0005Ja-00; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:28:54 -0700 To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:58:12 EST." References: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:28:54 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Content-Length: 904 Lines: 18 In message Ryan Rafferty writes: : > By work, I mean the following: will the BIOS ignore the thing until : > it is booted (via a serial console, say), when the OS can then take : > over and dittle the video card in a standard way. A $35 ISA card is a : > whole lot cheaper than the $315 Carrara one, no? : : Sure it is. But it won't work. The MIPS Magnum console doesn't know how : to use normal ISA video cards, and can't/won't send its display to them. So the normal ISA cards are ignored, which is OK. Once the kernel gets running, it (eg Linux or OpenBSD) can initialize the standard ISA card (maybe the drivers for these need help, but it could do that). So there is no way to have a console that is directed to one of the serial ports rather than the special video card? And therefore the boot process will completely fail? Warner From ralf@Julia.DE Thu Mar 13 05:26:10 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:26:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA09375; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:23:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29847 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:23:47 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA27735 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:23:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199703130423.FAA27735@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 To: linux-mips Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:23:15 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Warner Losh" at Mar 12, 97 06:28:54 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1374 Lines: 27 Hi, > In message Ryan Rafferty writes: > : > By work, I mean the following: will the BIOS ignore the thing until > : > it is booted (via a serial console, say), when the OS can then take > : > over and dittle the video card in a standard way. A $35 ISA card is a > : > whole lot cheaper than the $315 Carrara one, no? > : > : Sure it is. But it won't work. The MIPS Magnum console doesn't know how > : to use normal ISA video cards, and can't/won't send its display to them. > > So the normal ISA cards are ignored, which is OK. Once the kernel > gets running, it (eg Linux or OpenBSD) can initialize the standard ISA > card (maybe the drivers for these need help, but it could do that). > > So there is no way to have a console that is directed to one of the > serial ports rather than the special video card? And therefore the > boot process will completely fail? That's easy; just disabeling all special Magnum stuff should bring you to the point where the machine uses the ISA card as display. And hey Warner, you already gone through the procedure for the rPC44 (not very cleanly :-), so you know what you have to do - just one exception: you need to initialize the entire chipset on the card manually as long as we don't have a Intel BIOS emulation. Ralf (Now doing uadmin 2 0 for maintance :-) From dom@algor.co.uk Thu Mar 13 10:19:26 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:19:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from moorgate.algor.co.uk by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20131; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:17:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from gladsmuir.algor.co.uk (dom@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk [193.117.190.129]) by moorgate.algor.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14555; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:19:20 GMT From: Dom Sweetman Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:19:13 GMT Message-Id: <191.199703130919@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> To: linux-mips Subject: Re: LINUX on MIPS In-Reply-To: <199703070927.KAA14269@relay.mips.it> References: <199703070927.KAA14269@relay.mips.it> Content-Length: 764 Lines: 24 renato@mips.it (renato@mips.it) writes: > Hi, I won't take up much of your time , I'm looking for a port of linux on > a MIPS R5000 > > is there a project for this processor to be able to run linux? Algorithmics are building an R5000 board, and we certainly intend to try to get the same software running on it as is currently being ported to our P-4032 board - and that includes Linux. So we share your interest and intend to do something about it, by around the middle of the year. > All suggestion you could send me are appreciated , I'm interested in > setting up a machine with a MIPS R5000 and linux and if you want a > mirror in Italy I'm available. What kind of machine is that? Dominic Sweetman Algorithmics Ltd dom@algor.co.uk www.algor.co.uk From rji@bristol.st.com Thu Mar 13 13:07:08 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:07:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from hawkweed (hawkweed.bri.st.com) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24585; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:04:43 +0100 (MET) Received: by hawkweed id LAA18919; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:08:39 GMT From: "Richard Ingram" Message-Id: <9703131108.ZM15316@bristol.st.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:08:19 +0000 In-Reply-To: Ralf Baechle "Re: MIPS Magnum 4000" (Mar 12, 11:15pm) References: <199703122215.XAA27270@kernel.panic.julia.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 910 Lines: 28 On Mar 12, 11:15pm, Ralf Baechle wrote: > I bet the RISC/os console is *very* similar to the ARC firmware. Probably > the only thing that is different is the byteorder. In that case it will > be a snap to port Linux - recompile everything, deactivate the kernel > support for the G364 card (needs a bit of hacking) and you should be > there. > > I'll check the firmware issue out. > > Ralf > > -- > 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 > >-- End of excerpt from Ralf Baechle I wonder if any other PC cards had the same chipset as the magnum card ? I wonder how easy it would be diverting video O/P to an ISA card in one of the slots ? Does anyone have any technical manuals for these boxes ? I have an old Mips R3330 server box that came with a full technical ref manual giving a full memory map so something along these lines may be useful. Rich. (The Inmos chip was designed just down the corridor from were I sit !). From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Thu Mar 13 16:04:48 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:04:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29633; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:58:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (linux@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA13848 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:58:22 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199703131458.PAA13848@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id PAA00387; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:58:21 +0100 Subject: Re: LINUX on MIPS To: linux-mips Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:58:20 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <191.199703130919@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> from "Dom Sweetman" at Mar 13, 97 09:19:13 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 831 Lines: 25 Hi, > > Hi, I won't take up much of your time , I'm looking for a port of linux on > > a MIPS R5000 > > > > is there a project for this processor to be able to run linux? > > Algorithmics are building an R5000 board, and we certainly intend to > try to get the same software running on it as is currently being > ported to our P-4032 board - and that includes Linux. So we share > your interest and intend to do something about it, by around > the middle of the year. > > > All suggestion you could send me are appreciated , I'm interested in > > setting up a machine with a MIPS R5000 and linux and if you want a > > mirror in Italy I'm available. > > What kind of machine is that? He's got a SGI. Time to spread the news - Miguel De Icaza will complete the R5000 bits we already have. Target will be an Indy. Ralf From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Thu Mar 13 16:14:31 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:14:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29950; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:09:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (linux@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA14460 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:11:28 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199703131511.QAA14460@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA00470; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:11:26 +0100 Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 To: linux-mips Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:11:26 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9703131108.ZM15316@bristol.st.com> from "Richard Ingram" at Mar 13, 97 11:08:19 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1239 Lines: 33 Hi, > I wonder if any other PC cards had the same chipset as the magnum card ? I > wonder how easy it would be diverting video O/P to an ISA card in one of the > slots ? Maybe there was a PC card - but the chip is not VGA compatible, so iff there was a card, then it was only for a second monitor or so. The chip doesn't fit into the PC's crappy design because it has no character mode ... Making the Magnum use a VGA card in it's slots will be easier than it was to make it use the G364. > Does anyone have any technical manuals for these boxes ? I have an old Mips > R3330 server box that came with a full technical ref manual giving a full > memory map so something along these lines may be useful. I've got an offer from some guy to send me the manuals. Apparently he has what we need. Does anybody on this list have the necessary facilities to OCR the manuals and bring them into a redistributable state? Alternatively the source bits and headers included with RISC/os also contain information; the machine's hardware is much simpler than the Magnum's. > (The Inmos chip was designed just down the corridor from were I sit !). Nice; in that case you shouldn't have probs getting the docs which isn't easy nowadays. Ralf From hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend@rachael.franken.de Fri Mar 14 23:37:45 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:37:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from rachael.franken.de by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16107; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:35:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0w5fbY-000oOLC; Fri, 14 Mar 97 23:37 MET Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0w5fao-002OgQC; Fri, 14 Mar 97 23:36 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.4/8.7.3) id VAA03149 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:52:09 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer Message-Id: <199703142052.VAA03149@alpha.franken.de> Subject: Re: MIPS Magnum 4000 In-Reply-To: <199703122354.AAA27438@kernel.panic.julia.de> from Ralf Baechle at "Mar 13, 97 00:54:43 am" To: linux-mips Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:52:09 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1166 Lines: 24 > > That would be cool. But I have something in mind that's a little > > different... Would it be possible to emulate the standard IBM PC BIOS > > routines that ISA video cards need? > > Yes; I've discussed that recently with someone and he even has already > written the emulation. Aparrently the emulation is not fast bad good > enough to run a UNIX on ... Not fast enough is typical a problem with PC video bioses. In the early days the Linux/Alpha bootloader had a freeware x86 emulator to run the vga bios code. This emulator wasn't fast enough to emulate a timing loop inside of my ATI mach64 bios, so the clock chip didn't get the right timing. The DEC people put in a lot of work in their x86 emulator to bring up a mach64 card (and did it again to bring up matrox millenium cards). I guess, that they are using a similair trick, as they do with freeport (a sparc "emulator" for Alpha). Freeport translates the native Sparc code to native Alpha code. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From hkoerfg1@ford.com Wed Mar 19 16:19:59 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:19:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from internet-mail2.ford.com by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24431; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:17:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by internet-mail2.ford.com id AA26812 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:19:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199703191519.AA26812@internet-mail2.ford.com> Received: by internet-mail2.ford.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:19:39 -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: Ford Motor Company To: linux-mips Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:19:27 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 32.96 BogoMIPS on DECstation 5000/133 Reply-To: hkoerfg1@ford.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Content-Length: 1931 Lines: 56 Hello DECstation hackers, yes, you are reading right. After two weeks of hard work (have i mentioned that i am a kernel hacker newbie?) the timer tick code for kmin is running. This is what i got so far: >>boot 3/tftp 514816+573328+89232 Linux/MIPS DECStation Boot Copyright (C) Paul M. Antoine 1995, 1996 and others, 1994, 1995, 1996 Linux version 2.1.1 (harry@irgendwo) (gcc version 2.7.2) #1 Mon Mar 17 22:21:03 MET 1997 Page size is: 1000 Bitmap size is: 1536 bytes Main memory size is: 49152 KB System id is: 82030230 System has an R3000 CPU I-Cache size: 64K, D-Cache size: 128K System has firmware type: TCF0 This DECStation is a: DS5000/1x0 Added tags Setup complete, launching kernel... Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 32.96 BogoMIPS Memory: 47600k/49148k available (696k kernel code, 852k data) Bad pmd in pte_alloc_kernel: 8003f5bf free_area_pte: bad pmd (000365bf) I commented out console_init(...) in init/main.c and used a register_console(pmax_prinf) instead in arch/mips/dec/decstation.c (thanks for the hint, Ralf). If anybody is interested in my patches, please drop me a mail. I've tried to put them on the web, but my ISP is having problems with uploading, maybe this week... or should i just send them to Paul? A further investigation revealed: - the kernel is dying (silently!) in buffer_init() in fs/buffer.c because the vmalloc(...) for the hash_table fails. - if buffer_init() in init/main.c is commented out, the kernel even prints the (real(tm)) linux banner and dies somewhere in kernel_thread(init, NULL, 0) (CONFIG_PROC_FS not set!). I'd appreciate, if someone with more insight than me could point me into the right direction in fixing this vmalloc stuff. Oh... i nearly forgot to mention: the cache_size() stuff in arch/mips/mips1/cache.S also seems to work. keep hacking, Harald (harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de) From miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx Wed Mar 19 18:42:09 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:42:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from sphinx.nuclecu.unam.mx ([132.248.29.8]) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28049; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:39:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by sphinx.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.6.12/8.6.11) id LAA16327; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:40:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:40:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199703191740.LAA16327@sphinx.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux-mips In-Reply-To: <199703191519.AA26812@internet-mail2.ford.com> (hkoerfg1@ford.com) Subject: Re: 32.96 BogoMIPS on DECstation 5000/133 X-Mexico: Este es un pais de orates, un pais amateur. Content-Length: 709 Lines: 18 > Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 32.96 BogoMIPS > Memory: 47600k/49148k available (696k kernel code, 852k data) > Bad pmd in pte_alloc_kernel: 8003f5bf > free_area_pte: bad pmd (000365bf) Impressive. Now, guys, please hurry up, my mail server (this very decstation) wants to run Linux/MIPS badly :-). > If anybody is interested in my patches, please drop me a mail. I've > tried to put them on the web, but my ISP is having problems with > uploading, maybe this week... or should i just send them to Paul? I would suggest sending those patches to Paul as soon as possible, so that Ralf can merge his code quickly. We may be doing lots of changes to the MIPS tree in the close future. Miguel. From pab@RMnet.IT Sat Mar 22 00:52:38 1997 Received-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:52:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from malcolm.rmnet.it by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA14696; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:50:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pab@localhost) by malcolm.rmnet.it (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA05523 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:52:27 +0100 From: Paolo Bevilacqua Message-Id: <199703212352.AAA05523@malcolm.rmnet.it> Subject: Departure from list To: linux-mips Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:52:26 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 362 Lines: 11 Hi guys, It's with sadness that i'm leaving this list because i can't really keep up with your progresses. I would like to donate my Magnum (0K RAM) and low-res graphic board to someone that would make a better use of it. Also i have a copy of the Olivetti reference. I just ask the recipient to pay for shipment. Has been nice. Thanks & bye everyone! /pab From webtech@txdirect.net Mon Mar 24 23:13:11 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:13:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from legend.txdirect.net ([204.57.120.1]) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21573; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:10:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from 152.172.87.172 (172-87-172.ipt.aol.com [152.172.87.172]) by legend.txdirect.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA08148 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:13:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3336B6F5.2F4E@txdirect.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:17:03 +0000 From: Cosmin Tomescu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips Subject: Linux for MIPS Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 603 Lines: 9 Hello. I was wondering first if I can subscribe to email information about Linux on MIPS platform so that I can get up to date news and second, if NEC RISCServers running R4400s at 250Mhz is supported by Linux. If not, is there going to be support for the NEC machines ? Can you run both NT Server software and Linux on the same machine and have it ask you which OS you wish to load ? Any details and plans for support on the NEC would be appreciated. The current version of Linux will not run on my machine ? Is there going to be multiprocessing support for MIPS platform ? Please email me. Thank you. From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Mon Mar 24 23:58:18 1997 Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:58:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22508; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:55:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from erbse (linux@erbse.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.44]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA24140; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:57:22 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199703242257.XAA24140@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id XAA03323; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:57:21 +0100 Subject: Re: Linux for MIPS Question To: linux-mips Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:57:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: webtech@txdirect.net In-Reply-To: <3336B6F5.2F4E@txdirect.net> from "Cosmin Tomescu" at Mar 24, 97 05:17:03 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 723 Lines: 16 Hi, > Hello. I was wondering first if I can subscribe to email information > about Linux on MIPS platform so that I can get up to date news and > second, if NEC RISCServers running R4400s at 250Mhz is supported by > Linux. If not, is there going to be support for the NEC machines ? Can > you run both NT Server software and Linux on the same machine and have > it ask you which OS you wish to load ? Any details and plans for support > on the NEC would be appreciated. The current version of Linux will not > run on my machine ? Is there going to be multiprocessing support for > MIPS platform ? Please email me. Thank you. The NEC machines are currently not supported. The will be SMP support sooner or later. Ralf From don@cs.byu.edu Tue Mar 25 08:54:26 1997 Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:54:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from vespa.cs.byu.edu ([128.187.197.13]) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10191; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:51:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from chele.cs.byu.edu (dialup-218.byu.itsnet.com [192.41.69.218]) by vespa.cs.byu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA23646 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:54:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:50:12 -0700 (MST) From: Don Sender: don@chele.cs.byu.edu Reply-To: Don Subject: http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/ To: linux-mips Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 260 Lines: 11 Your link to Mips R4x00 processors http://www.sgi.com/MIPS/HTMLs/R4400_B.html is outdated. The page itself is somewhat dated as well. Is the project stalled? I'm obviously not on your mailing list [yet] so please direct your replies to me. don@cs.byu.edu From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Tue Mar 25 16:31:22 1997 Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:31:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22411; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:28:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from erbse (linux@erbse.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.44]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA21233; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:28:29 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199703251528.QAA21233@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA03782; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:28:27 +0100 Subject: Re: http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/ To: linux-mips Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:28:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: don@cs.byu.edu In-Reply-To: from "Don" at Mar 25, 97 00:50:12 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 538 Lines: 18 Hi, > Your link to Mips R4x00 processors > http://www.sgi.com/MIPS/HTMLs/R4400_B.html > > is outdated. Thanks, fixed. The correct pages are in the http://www.sgi.com/MIPS/products/index.html directory. > The page itself is somewhat dated as well. Is the project stalled? I'm > obviously not on your mailing list [yet] so please direct your replies to me. Nope, the problem is that noone is maintaining the FAQ. Volunteers? The project is well alive. See also the announcement I'll later on post to comp.os.linux.announce. Ralf From don@cs.byu.edu Wed Mar 26 09:45:44 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:45:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from vespa.cs.byu.edu by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA18457; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:43:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from chele.cs.byu.edu (dialup-195.byu.itsnet.com [192.41.69.195]) by vespa.cs.byu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12531 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:45:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:41:26 -0700 (MST) From: Don Sender: don@chele.cs.byu.edu Reply-To: Don Subject: Re: http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/ To: linux-mips In-Reply-To: <199703251528.QAA21233@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 657 Lines: 16 > > The page itself is somewhat dated as well. Is the project stalled? I'm > > obviously not on your mailing list [yet] so please direct your replies to > > me. > > Nope, the problem is that noone is maintaining the FAQ. Volunteers? The > project is well alive. See also the announcement I'll later on post to > comp.os.linux.announce. Since your web page is outdated by a year, maybe someone can tell me the current status of the MIPS linux project. I have a couple of Indy R4000's, so I'm interested in linux for them. If there's a working copy, I'll join your mailing list. I've already put linux on sparc and will be working on alpha soon. Don From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Wed Mar 26 13:30:54 1997 Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:30:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24674; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:27:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from erbse (linux@erbse.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.44]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA19674; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:28:43 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199703261228.NAA19674@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id NAA04678; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:28:40 +0100 Subject: Re: http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/ To: linux-mips Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:28:39 +0100 (MET) Cc: don@cs.byu.edu In-Reply-To: from "Don" at Mar 26, 97 01:41:26 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 831 Lines: 17 > > Nope, the problem is that noone is maintaining the FAQ. Volunteers? The > > project is well alive. See also the announcement I'll later on post to > > comp.os.linux.announce. > Since your web page is outdated by a year, maybe someone can tell me the > current status of the MIPS linux project. I have a couple of Indy R4000's, so > I'm interested in linux for them. If there's a working copy, I'll join your > mailing list. I've already put linux on sparc and will be working on alpha > soon. The SGI port has been stalled since last August but is now being restarted in the background. What we have is a almost ready kernel for certain Indy configurations. More soon on this list and linux-announce. Btw, a lot of work on the Indy port has been done and will be done by people also working on the Sparc port. Ralf From streubel@psh-online.com Thu Mar 27 15:12:35 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:12:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from pshweb (mail.psh-online.com) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02128; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:09:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from psh-online.com by pshweb (8.6.8.1/SCO5) with SMTP id OAA18854 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:11:36 GMT Received: by psh-online.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:13:46 +0100 Message-Id: <333A8EBB.4C6B@psh-online.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:14:03 +0000 From: Kay Streubel Organization: Presse-Service Hamburg GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 [de] (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips Subject: Linux on Nintendo 64? X-Url: http://lena.fnet.fr/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 470 Lines: 13 Hi there, a German Unix magazine just published an "april fool" about Linux running on Nintendo's new 64 bit game console... How about it?! The magazine's editor said that he asked somebody on Cebit 97 and they said that everything one would need for a running kernel is already included in the machine (R4300, 4 MB RAM, etc.) So if there is anybody who could give me some info about the general feasibility, I would like to hear from you! Greeting, Kay Streubel From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Thu Mar 27 16:39:01 1997 Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:39:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04503; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:36:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (linux@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA04438 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:37:49 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199703271537.QAA04438@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA12823; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:37:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Linux on Nintendo 64? To: linux-mips Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:37:47 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <333A8EBB.4C6B@psh-online.com> from "Kay Streubel" at Mar 27, 97 03:14:03 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 920 Lines: 23 Hi, > a German Unix magazine just published an "april fool" about Linux running > on Nintendo's new 64 bit game console... Yes, it's a incredibly good april fool's joke. They perfectly combined lots of true facts into something that isn't true at all. I talked to one of the editor on the CeBIT and he said they'd put the article on the web on April, 1 in both English and German language. Their web server is www.heise.de. > How about it?! The magazine's editor said that he asked somebody on Cebit > 97 and they said that everything one would need for a running kernel is > already included in the machine (R4300, 4 MB RAM, etc.) > > So if there is anybody who could give me some info about the general > feasibility, I would like to hear from you! The thing is entirely suitable for Linux, though it's of course lacking some of the usual peripherals like disks. More RAM wouldn't be bad, also ... Ralf From Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM Fri Mar 28 09:54:16 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:54:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00999; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:51:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from France.Sun.COM ([129.157.188.1]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id AAA15013 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 00:58:13 -0800 Received: from mygale.France.Sun.COM by France.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-sd.fkk200) id JAA03440; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:53:07 +0100 Received: from tatooine by mygale.France.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA04407; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:53:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:53:05 +0100 (MET) From: Gilles Gravier - ITC Reply-To: Gilles Gravier - ITC Subject: Re: Linux on Nintendo 64? To: linux-mips In-Reply-To: "Your message with ID" <333A8EBB.4C6B@psh-online.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 33 Hard disk drive... > Hi there, > a German Unix magazine just published an "april fool" about Linux running > on Nintendo's new 64 bit game console... > > How about it?! The magazine's editor said that he asked somebody on Cebit > 97 and they said that everything one would need for a running kernel is > already included in the machine (R4300, 4 MB RAM, etc.) > > So if there is anybody who could give me some info about the general > feasibility, I would like to hear from you! > > Greeting, > Kay Streubel > -- /----------------+-------------------------------------------\ | /\ | Gilles Gravier | | \\ \ | Pre-Sales Technical Support | | \ \\ / | Sun Microsystems France | | / \/ / / | 13 avenue Morane Saulnier | | / / \//\ | B.P. 53 | | \//\ / / | 78142 Velizy CEDEX | | / / /\ / | FRANCE | | / \\ \ | Email: Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM | | \ \\ | Phone: +33-1-30-67-52-81 | | \/ | Fax: +33-1-30-67-53-06 | \----------------+-------------------------------------------/ From stefan@tiger.ami.ru.acad.bg Fri Mar 28 14:49:08 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:49:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from tiger.ami.ru.acad.bg by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA09337; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:44:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tiger.ami.ru.acad.bg (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA24491 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:40:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:40:08 +0200 From: Stefan Stefanov Message-Id: <199703281340.PAA24491@tiger.ami.ru.acad.bg> To: linux-mips Subject: Problems with Linux-Mips Content-Length: 1034 Lines: 32 Hello, I would like to ask you a few questions concerning Linux/MIPS kernel. Unfortunatly I crashed into some problems that I am not able to go arround. I have Decstation 5000/25 with R3000 CPU. I've downloaded kernel version 2.1.1 ftp://ftp.softway.com.au/pub/linux-mips/dec_vmlinux.2.1.1.test.gz. I tried tftp boot using another linux on i386 as a bootp server and from kernel placed on Ultrix FS. The result was the same. In both cases kernel prints initial messages for cputype, machine model, memory size, etc and stops onto: Please write the IRQ setup code for the DECstation! I would like to ask the following questions: 1. Could this image boot on my machine? And what I have to do to make it run? 2. I have the source code for the same release of the kernel. What configuration options should I use to compile it? 3. Is there any docs or FAQs the could guide me how to compile the kernel? Thank you. Sincerely, Stefan Stefanov From Michael.Engel@unix-ag.org Fri Mar 28 15:18:32 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:18:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10226; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:15:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.208.50]) by harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with ESMTP id OAA05013 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:59:41 +0100 Received: (from engel@localhost) by vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) id PAA17934 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:16:27 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Engel Message-Id: <199703281416.PAA17934@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Subject: Re: Problems with Linux-Mips To: linux-mips Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:16:26 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199703281340.PAA24491@tiger.ami.ru.acad.bg> from "Stefan Stefanov" at Mar 28, 97 03:40:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1304 Lines: 32 Hi, > > I would like to ask you a few questions concerning Linux/MIPS kernel. > Unfortunatly I crashed into some problems that I am not able to go arround. > Well, this is not surprising ... > I have Decstation 5000/25 with R3000 CPU. I've downloaded kernel version > 2.1.1 ftp://ftp.softway.com.au/pub/linux-mips/dec_vmlinux.2.1.1.test.gz. > I tried tftp boot using another linux on i386 as a bootp server and > from kernel placed on Ultrix FS. The result was the same. In both cases > kernel prints initial messages for cputype, machine model, memory size, > etc and stops onto: > > Please write the IRQ setup code for the DECstation! > > I would like to ask the following questions: > > 1. Could this image boot on my machine? And what I have to do to make > it run? > Hmmm, it tells you exactly what to do - write the IRQ setup code. The DECstation Linux kernel isn't yet comlete (maybe this should be in the FAQ ?). If you want to do some kernel hacking, you're welcome to do so ! In fact, some more code has been written but not yet integrated in a released kernel. And we should probably integrate the DECstation code into the 2.1.14 kernel (or has this already been done, Ralf ?) ... regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From ralf@Julia.DE Fri Mar 28 15:26:41 1997 Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:26:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10490; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:23:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08755; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:21:03 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA04015; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:21:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199703281421.PAA04015@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Problems with Linux-Mips To: linux-mips Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:21:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: stefan@ami.ru.acad.bg In-Reply-To: <199703281416.PAA17934@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> from "Michael Engel" at Mar 28, 97 03:16:26 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 303 Lines: 10 Hi, > If you want to do some kernel hacking, you're welcome to do so ! In fact, > some more code has been written but not yet integrated in a released kernel. > And we should probably integrate the DECstation code into the 2.1.14 > kernel (or has this already been done, Ralf ?) ... Not yet. Ralf From Elias@Kesh.com Sun Mar 30 07:58:50 1997 Received-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 07:58:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scruz.net (nic.scruz.net) by Utopia.EUnet.fr (5.65c8d/EUNET-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05945; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 07:56:07 +0200 (MET) Received: from 165.227.110.86 (elias.sj.scruznet.com [165.227.110.86]) by scruz.net (8.7.3/1.34) with SMTP id VAA09242 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:58:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <333D9251.1999@Kesh.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:06:12 +0000 From: Elias Kesh Organization: EJK Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips Subject: Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 125 Lines: 6 We are creating a port to a MIPS based platform and would like to subscribe to the mailing list. Elias@kesh.com Thank you.