From eugen@research.nj.nec.com Wed Oct 2 20:27:00 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07844 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:26:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zingo.nj.nec.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02591; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:26:41 +0200 (MET) Received: from iris49 (iris49 [138.15.150.129]) by zingo.nj.nec.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12111 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by iris49 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/cliff's joyful mailer #2) id OAA15562(iris49); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:26:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:26:45 -0400 From: eugen@research.nj.nec.com (Eugen Schenfeld) Message-Id: <199610021826.OAA15562@iris49> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: well?? Content-Length: 302 Lines: 15 Hi Ralf, So how are you making progress? When will you arrive here? Have you checked with Rutgers? Eugen Eugen Schenfeld NEC Research Institute 4 Independence Way Princeton, NJ 08540 phone: 609 951 2742 fax: 609 951 2482 email: eugen@research.nj.nec.com (Inet) From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Thu Oct 3 09:37:36 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12014 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:37:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24267; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:37:13 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id HAA23295; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:37:08 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA18597; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:37:06 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199610030737.AA18597@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Help with Magnum 4000! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr (Linux MIPS mailing list) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:37:06 +1000 (EST) Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1320 Lines: 29 Hi folks, The 4Mb 72pin simms with parity finally arrived for the second-hand Magnum 4000SC-50 that I have. I've popped them in and it now gets much further along in the boot process! :-) The machine does not have the Magnum video card, and I cannot get anything out of either of the serial ports. Which one am I supposed to use as a console? How do I get it to spit things at the serial ports? The machine does have the ethernet/serial card and the audio/mouse card. I believe the machine was previously used to boot RISC/OS, and used the serial ports as console. I have the Magnum setup disk goo (thanks Ralf) though I don't think that will work without a video card. I also have a flash-rom burner, so I can use that to reset the firmware. Any help from you experienced Magnum types would be appreciated. You may have guessed I have no doco... Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From engel@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de Thu Oct 3 10:37:28 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12214 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:37:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26546; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:37:10 +0200 (MET) Received: (from engel@localhost) by vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (8.7.6/8.7.6/vespa-mx1.1) id JAA04457 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:30:23 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Engel Message-Id: <199610030830.JAA04457@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Subject: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:30:22 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1078 Lines: 34 Hi all, last night I finally found time to try Paul's 2.0.7 kernel on my DS5000/200 (haven't tried the 5000/120 yet). It comes as far as Initialising time ... (init/main.c l. 773) and hangs. By looking through the startup code I came across some things that I didn't understand ... I'm still waiting for my copy of Kane's "MIPS RISC architecture" book (our library has it, but it's currently loaned to s.o. else :(). I think most of my questions will be answered when I get better knowledge of the MIPS instruction set ... But, one question remains ... - Am I correct in assuming that the boot monitor already sets up a virtual->physical address mapping ? In dec_entry.S a commenct reads * Now we need to move exception vector handler routines that appear * in head.S down to the right addresses, 'cos the DECStation loads * kernels at 0x80030000... Afaik, the physical address space goes from 0x0 to 512 MBytes, so the 0x80030000 should be a virtual address. Or did I get sth. wrong there ? regards, Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Thu Oct 3 10:53:07 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12297 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:53:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27277; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:52:46 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id IAA25052; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:52:45 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA19199; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:52:43 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199610030852.AA19199@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:52:42 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199610030830.JAA04457@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> from "Michael Engel" at Oct 3, 96 09:30:22 am Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2415 Lines: 61 Hi Michael, > last night I finally found time to try Paul's 2.0.7 kernel on my DS5000/200 > (haven't tried the 5000/120 yet). > > It comes as far as > Initialising time ... > > (init/main.c l. 773) > and hangs. ...as all good kernels should! I know it's not as impressive as a full boot, but that's as far as I've got in writing code. The major milestone it represents is that the DECstation code is finally back into a mainstream kernel release (or it will be once I give Ralf my patches!) > By looking through the startup code I came across some things that > I didn't understand ... I'm still waiting for my copy of Kane's > "MIPS RISC architecture" book > (our library has it, but it's currently loaned to s.o. else :(). You really need a copy of this, though there is a half-way decent description of the R3000 architecture in the DEC documentation. > I think most of my questions will be answered when I get better knowledge > of the MIPS instruction set ... Yep! > But, one question remains ... > > - Am I correct in assuming that the boot monitor already sets up a > virtual->physical address mapping ? In dec_entry.S a commenct reads Probably, though we don't care what it is. > * Now we need to move exception vector handler routines that appear > * in head.S down to the right addresses, 'cos the DECStation loads > * kernels at 0x80030000... > > Afaik, the physical address space goes from 0x0 to 512 MBytes, so the > 0x80030000 should be a virtual address. Or did I get sth. wrong there ? No, it's the physical address 0x0003000 in what's called KSEG0 which is main memory unmapped but cached. KSEG1 at 0xA0000000 is the same memory both unmapped and uncached, which is useful for accessing device registers. KUSEG addresses start at 0x00000000 and are mapped via the TLB (i.e. virtual) and cached. The MIPS CPU's just work this way - and once you get used to it, it's pretty easy and very useful! Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From dom@algor.co.uk Thu Oct 3 11:00:42 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12366 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:00:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from moorgate.algor.co.uk by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27484; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:00:23 +0200 (MET) Received: from bank.algor.co.uk (bank.algor.co.uk [193.117.190.11]) by moorgate.algor.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29893; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:00:37 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Sweetman Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 10:00:36 +0100 Message-Id: <3326.9610030900@bank.algor.co.uk> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... In-Reply-To: <199610030830.JAA04457@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> References: <199610030830.JAA04457@vespa.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Content-Length: 1637 Lines: 41 Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) writes: > Afaik, the physical address space goes from 0x0 to 512 MBytes, so the > 0x80030000 should be a virtual address. Or did I get sth. wrong there ? Well, yes, but no. Let's stick to 32-bit addresses for now (that works even on 64-bit MIPS CPUs): The MIPS CPU doesn't have a switch to turn memory translation on and off. Instead it breaks virtual addresses down into regions: 0x0000 0000 -> 0x7fff ffff "kuseg" - user-accessible, translated 0x8000 0000 -> 0x9fff ffff "kseg0" - cached window to physical 0->512Mbyte 0xA000 0000 -> 0xbfff ffff "kseg1" - uncached window to phys 0->512Mbyte 0xc000 0000 -> 0xffff ffff "kseg2" - kernel-only, translated A unix kernel therefore runs in program addresses from 0x8000 0000 upwards, where it can run cached without translation overhead. Then the MIPS architecture puts its exception vectors (trap entry points) down at 0x8000 0000 and nearby. DEC must be doing something with the bottom 192Kbytes of memory.... but that's there problem. You need the MIPS book. But if you can handle Adobe PDF ("acrobat") format, I think IDT still have the "3051 family software manual" online; and it covers most of this stuff (I guess I should admit having written most of it). It's at: ftp://ftp.idt.com/pub/docs/3467.pdf Regards, Dominic Sweetman phone: +44 171 700 3301 Algorithmics Ltd home: +44 171 226 0032 3 Drayton Park fax: +44 171 700 3400 London N5 1NU email: dom@algor.co.uk ENGLAND. www: http://www.algor.co.uk ftp: ftp.algor.co.uk From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Thu Oct 3 12:18:27 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12649 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:18:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00604; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:18:00 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id KAA27057; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:17:58 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA19988; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:17:56 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199610031017.AA19988@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:17:56 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3326.9610030900@bank.algor.co.uk> from "Dominic Sweetman" at Oct 3, 96 10:00:36 am Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 966 Lines: 23 Dominic Sweetman wrote: > Then the MIPS architecture puts its exception vectors (trap entry > points) down at 0x8000 0000 and nearby. > > DEC must be doing something with the bottom 192Kbytes of > memory.... but that's there problem. Yeah - the DEC boot proms make use of the 128K above the first 64k as space for variables. At the moment we need to use the boot prom code for printing to the console, so we leave it free. Later we can make use of it, but first we must write some device drivers. Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From ralf@Julia.DE Fri Oct 4 00:04:08 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21016 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:04:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19768; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:03:46 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14623 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:03:14 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id XAA06890 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:59:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199610032159.XAA06890@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:59:16 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <3326.9610030900@bank.algor.co.uk> from "Dominic Sweetman" at Oct 3, 96 10:00:36 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 669 Lines: 17 > > Michael Engel (engel@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) writes: > > > Afaik, the physical address space goes from 0x0 to 512 MBytes, so the > > 0x80030000 should be a virtual address. Or did I get sth. wrong there ? > Well, yes, but no. Let's stick to 32-bit addresses for now (that > works even on 64-bit MIPS CPUs): In fact the R4000 port is using them for now. So far the only addresses used outside the 4GB 32bit address space are hardware addresses. The size of the KSEG0 segment of 512mb also limits currently the maximum addressable RAM space to currently 512mb. I volunter to fix that immediately if someone borrows me a gig of RAM for testing ;-) Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Fri Oct 4 00:26:40 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21117 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20647; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:26:19 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15289 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:25:48 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id AAA06958 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:21:52 +0200 Message-Id: <199610032221.AAA06958@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: well?? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:21:52 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199610021826.OAA15562@iris49> from "Eugen Schenfeld" at Oct 2, 96 02:26:45 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 165 Lines: 7 Hi Eugen, still haven't received the papers from the university. Hopefully the person responsible will be back tomorrow. Today here is public holiday ... Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Fri Oct 4 00:39:56 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21174 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:39:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21347; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:39:33 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15616 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:39:02 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id AAA07024 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:35:06 +0200 Message-Id: <199610032235.AAA07024@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:35:06 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199610030852.AA19199@suite.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Oct 3, 96 06:52:42 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 816 Lines: 18 > > By looking through the startup code I came across some things that > > I didn't understand ... I'm still waiting for my copy of Kane's > > "MIPS RISC architecture" book > > (our library has it, but it's currently loaned to s.o. else :(). > > You really need a copy of this, though there is a half-way decent > description of the R3000 architecture in the DEC documentation. You should also try to make shure that you have a newer edition of the Kane. The newer releases also cover the R6000 and R4000 and go more into the details than the first edition that I'm using. > > - Am I correct in assuming that the boot monitor already sets up a > > virtual->physical address mapping ? In dec_entry.S a commenct reads The KSEG0/KSEg1 mappings are wired in the hardware and not setup by the firmware. Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Fri Oct 4 00:51:14 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21254 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:51:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21712; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:50:54 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16025 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:50:23 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id AAA07046 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:46:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199610032246.AAA07046@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: 2.0.7 on DS5000/200 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:46:28 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199610031017.AA19988@suite.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Oct 3, 96 08:17:56 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 746 Lines: 17 > > Then the MIPS architecture puts its exception vectors (trap entry > > points) down at 0x8000 0000 and nearby. > > > > DEC must be doing something with the bottom 192Kbytes of > > memory.... but that's there problem. > > Yeah - the DEC boot proms make use of the 128K above the first 64k > as space for variables. At the moment we need to use the boot prom > code for printing to the console, so we leave it free. Later we can > make use of it, but first we must write some device drivers. You might save these first 192kb to some safe place such that you can later swap them again into their old place and make use of the firmware - if that's of interest. Best place would be somewhere in the swap space on disk if available. Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Fri Oct 4 01:04:27 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21321 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:04:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22031; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:04:04 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA16413 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:03:30 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id AAA07095 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:59:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199610032259.AAA07095@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Help with Magnum 4000! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:59:33 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199610030737.AA18597@suite.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Oct 3, 96 05:37:06 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1064 Lines: 21 > The machine does not have the Magnum video card, and I cannot get anything > out of either of the serial ports. Which one am I supposed to use > as a console? How do I get it to spit things at the serial ports? That machine has probably also some jumpers on the motherboard which sets it to serial console/G364 console/G364 console and ignore errors during self test. > The machine does have the ethernet/serial card and the audio/mouse > card. I believe the machine was previously used to boot RISC/OS, and > used the serial ports as console. I have the Magnum setup disk goo > (thanks Ralf) though I don't think that will work without a video card. > I also have a flash-rom burner, so I can use that to reset the firmware. Have fun with that procude. I never did it myself and I wouldn't wonder if other hardware than just the firmware flash-rom would need to be reprogrammed, too. You might post about this reprogramming procedure to comp.sys.mips which also the some Mips people like Greg Shippen who constructed that machine are reading. Ralf From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Fri Oct 4 07:52:20 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA23974 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:52:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU ([129.78.8.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03305; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:51:43 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id FAA22443; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:50:18 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA01420; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:50:16 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199610040550.AA01420@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Help with Magnum 4000! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:50:15 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199610032259.AAA07095@kernel.panic.julia.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Oct 4, 96 00:59:33 am Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1039 Lines: 25 Ralf wrote: > That machine has probably also some jumpers on the motherboard which sets > it to serial console/G364 console/G364 console and ignore errors during > self test. Not that I can see... but I'll have another look. > Have fun with that procude. I never did it myself and I wouldn't > wonder if other hardware than just the firmware flash-rom would need > to be reprogrammed, too. You might post about this reprogramming > procedure to comp.sys.mips which also the some Mips people like Greg > Shippen who constructed that machine are reading. Thanks, I'll try that too. Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From ralf@Julia.DE Sun Oct 6 23:32:17 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08163 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:32:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21486; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:32:02 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01728 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:29:21 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id XAA08895 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:26:50 +0200 Message-Id: <199610062126.XAA08895@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:26:49 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 583 Lines: 22 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded linux-2.0.21-2.1.0.diff.gz to ftp.fnet.fr and kernel.panic.julia.de. This release fixes some ancient bugs and is thus lots more stable, go for it! Ralf 5fcd2f024975533cd5528fe403960944 linux-2.0.21-2.1.0.diff.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCUAwUBMlgkGUckbl6vezDBAQFp2QP4u46eozSYYsns4SLyDTXMO8g5jgu8C9rL wY6SiP+r8Pr4WzLgnzZAYxanOWDHIZ839JCzILdbKPhZn6mAEwO4sw2LQy68KBHC 9TYbbHxl759UwnqBFlaO/GlAVUpN8GRF3fBiPb+WoLET3JUgRNDWMt9skQXVb0ky lREmXVvt/A== =K5Wp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Mon Oct 7 07:36:28 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10986 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:36:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr ([193.56.15.21]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03264; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:36:24 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id HAA20855 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:39:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id GAA00899 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:40:55 +0100 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA24305; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:36:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:35:35 +0200 (IST) From: Amit Margalit To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 In-Reply-To: <199610062126.XAA08895@kernel.panic.julia.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 664 Lines: 21 Hi! On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Ralf Baechle wrote: > Hi all, > > I've uploaded linux-2.0.21-2.1.0.diff.gz to ftp.fnet.fr and > kernel.panic.julia.de. This release fixes some ancient bugs > and is thus lots more stable, go for it! > > Ralf I take it this is still without Paul's DEC patches, right? Amit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From ralf@Julia.DE Mon Oct 7 16:33:25 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00733 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:33:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21234; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:33:12 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02363 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:30:26 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id QAA10819 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:28:00 +0200 Message-Id: <199610071428.QAA10819@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:27:59 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: from "Amit Margalit" at Oct 7, 96 07:35:35 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 305 Lines: 11 Hi Amit, > > I've uploaded linux-2.0.21-2.1.0.diff.gz to ftp.fnet.fr and > > kernel.panic.julia.de. This release fixes some ancient bugs > > and is thus lots more stable, go for it! > > I take it this is still without Paul's DEC patches, right? Yes, it is. I guess Paul is too busy again ... Ralf From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Mon Oct 7 17:28:57 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01018 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:28:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23705; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:28:52 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA03263 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:32:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id QAA01753 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:33:12 +0100 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA20548; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:27:53 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:27:03 +0200 (IST) From: Amit Margalit To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 In-Reply-To: <199610071428.QAA10819@kernel.panic.julia.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1061 Lines: 30 Hi! On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Ralf Baechle wrote: > Hi Amit, > > > > I've uploaded linux-2.0.21-2.1.0.diff.gz to ftp.fnet.fr and > > > kernel.panic.julia.de. This release fixes some ancient bugs > > > and is thus lots more stable, go for it! > > > > I take it this is still without Paul's DEC patches, right? > > Yes, it is. I guess Paul is too busy again ... > > Ralf Hopefully this will be ready soon. For now my DECstation 5000/150 (R4000) does not boot with his 2.0.7 when compiled as R3000. It gets stuck in sys_cacheflush() somewhere. I mean that it does not boot to the same point where a R3000 DECstation would. I saw you rewrote most of that code, so that's what I am waiting for. Amit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From ralf@Julia.DE Mon Oct 7 19:51:36 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01871 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:51:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27385; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:51:27 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08547 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:48:39 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id TAA11072 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:46:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199610071746.TAA11072@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:46:13 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: from "Amit Margalit" at Oct 7, 96 05:27:03 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2504 Lines: 66 Hi, > Hopefully this will be ready soon. For now my DECstation 5000/150 (R4000) > does not boot with his 2.0.7 when compiled as R3000. It gets stuck in > sys_cacheflush() somewhere. I mean that it does not boot to the same point > where a R3000 DECstation would. > > I saw you rewrote most of that code, so that's what I am waiting for. Yes, I rewrote this part of the code. It was simply nightmarish bad; I implemented it in the very beginnings of Linux/MIPS where a version of it-somehow-works-quality was sufficient but I really had to fix that. I think I should explain it a bit. In the old code sys_cacheflush(addr, size, flags) was both the syscall cacheflush as well as the routine that was called from within the kernel. The implementation did always flush the entire cache which is a chainsaw massacre to the performance as it flushed the data cache about 90000 times and the I-cache about 25000 times when booting with a minimal /etc/rc and no init. The implementation was also buggy as it flushed the caches many times each times called. In the new code sys_cacheflush() is only the syscall entry. sys_cacheflush() verifies it's parameters for validity and calls cacheflush(). Note that cacheflush() is not a function but a pointer to a function. Thus the calling sequence from assembler is #include #include #include ... LONG_L v0,cacheflush jalr v0 ... and from C #include cacheflush(...); Directly calls to sys_cacheflush() are no longer allows; instead call cacheflush(). The prototype of cacheflush() cacheflush(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size, unsigned int flags) are similar to the old sys_cacheflush(). The flags parameter can be: CF_DCACHE Flush the data cache CF_ICACHE Flush the instruction cache CF_BCACHE like (CF_DCACHE | CF_ICACHE) CF_VIRTUAL Flush only virtual indexed caches like R4000 and better. CF_PHYSICAL FLush only physical indexed caches like R2000, R3000, R6000. The differenciation between virtual and physical cache improves performance most for R3000 machines. CF_ALL like (CF_VIRTUAL | CF_PHYSICAL). More flags to come. The actual cacheflush implementation is CPU model dependand as On MIPS the special situation that several different implementations of CPU caches exist. The CPU type dependand initialization in arch/mips/kernel/setup.c and arch/mips/mips[1-4]/ take care of selection of the right routines. Ralf From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Tue Oct 8 07:36:03 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05729 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:36:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU ([129.78.8.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17637; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:35:53 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id FAA12687; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:35:42 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA04407; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:35:38 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199610080535.AA04407@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:35:38 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199610071428.QAA10819@kernel.panic.julia.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Oct 7, 96 04:27:59 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 918 Lines: 25 Hi folks, Ralf wrote: > > > I've uploaded linux-2.0.21-2.1.0.diff.gz to ftp.fnet.fr and > > > kernel.panic.julia.de. This release fixes some ancient bugs > > > and is thus lots more stable, go for it! > > > > I take it this is still without Paul's DEC patches, right? > > Yes, it is. I guess Paul is too busy again ... ...yeah, I'm off to the US on Saturday for 2 weeks of business so things are getting hectic. I'll try to get the patches out before I go. Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Tue Oct 8 08:15:15 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05884 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:15:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA18576; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:15:10 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id IAA09159 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:18:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id HAA02827 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:19:44 +0100 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA02591; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:15:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:14:06 +0200 (IST) From: Amit Margalit To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS 2.1.0 In-Reply-To: <199610071746.TAA11072@kernel.panic.julia.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1397 Lines: 30 Hi! On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Ralf Baechle wrote: > In the old code sys_cacheflush(addr, size, flags) was both the syscall > cacheflush as well as the routine that was called from within the kernel. > The implementation did always flush the entire cache which is a > chainsaw massacre to the performance as it flushed the data cache about > 90000 times and the I-cache about 25000 times when booting with a minimal > /etc/rc and no init. The implementation was also buggy as it flushed the > caches many times each times called. Well, we guys with the DECstations are waiting to see a kernel that boots all the way to actually load /etc/rc, and it seems like there's quite a way to go. > The actual cacheflush implementation is CPU model dependand as On MIPS the > special situation that several different implementations of CPU caches > exist. The CPU type dependand initialization in arch/mips/kernel/setup.c > and arch/mips/mips[1-4]/ take care of selection of the right routines. Thanks. I'll take a look see what I can learn. Amit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Wed Oct 9 10:26:01 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12970 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:25:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11135; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:25:45 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA14355 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:29:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id JAA04748 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:30:18 +0100 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA29498; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:25:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:24:23 +0200 (IST) From: Amit Margalit To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Test, please ignore. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 379 Lines: 7 Test, please ignore. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From ralf@Julia.DE Thu Oct 10 15:12:06 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20939 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:12:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01000; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:11:56 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11469 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:08:26 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) id PAA16376 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:06:20 +0200 Message-Id: <199610101306.PAA16376@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Linux 2.1.1 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:06:20 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 546 Lines: 23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded the kernel patch 2.1.1 to ftp.fnet.fr and kernel.panic.julia.de. No big MIPS changes in this kernel. Have fun, Ralf 9ea966d1f37d3c40f8bf9a8a1608faf2 linux-2.1.0-2.1.1.diff.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBMlz0y0ckbl6vezDBAQGL4QQAiplfquWlRHOQe7e2GLgeclH/ii94Zplf vyXEhih+bCTKcLL2VnEl/W6bSNkMZ1629NXzJ9QvIJ11z6kp6w28UPv0S9d1cV5p Bl3/UlulcWu/irJXGy3/i0j/i5Dw7VBjr9hV6SyUieRaXK8CX0aKjlUhGHIYB5j1 boTHEUNVE20= =p/56 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From si17911@ci.uminho.pt Fri Oct 11 16:02:04 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29623 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:01:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from torga.ci.uminho.pt by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13326; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:58:13 +0200 (MET) Received: from pessoa by torga.ci.uminho.pt (5.4R3.10/140.2) id AA11279; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:58:53 +0100 Received: by pessoa.ci.uminho.pt (5.4R3.10/140.2) id AA01978; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:56:35 +0100 From: si17911@ci.uminho.pt (Sergio Paulo Gomes Moreira) Message-Id: <9610111356.AA01978@pessoa.ci.uminho.pt> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:56:35 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 10 Lines: 1 subscribe From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Sun Oct 13 13:03:27 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15199 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:03:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA18885; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:03:10 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA18506 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:06:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id MAA11647 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:07:55 +0100 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA03631; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:03:13 +0200 Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:02:25 +0200 (IST) From: Amit Margalit To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Test, please ignore Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 379 Lines: 7 Test, please ignore. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From plewycky@oise.utoronto.ca Mon Oct 14 01:37:22 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19175 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tortoise.oise.utoronto.ca ([192.75.177.236]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03903; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:37:09 +0200 (MET) Received: from hobbes by tortoise.oise.utoronto.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (rsm960617)) for id TAA26600; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 19:32:42 -0400 Sender: andrew@oise.utoronto.ca Message-Id: <32617D65.158FB329@oise.utoronto.ca> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 19:38:13 -0400 From: Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.1.3 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Getting into Linux/MIPS development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 953 Lines: 26 Hello! I may be able to get my hands on an SGI R5000 Indy (blueish case), and am interested in running Linux on it. I don't know much about MIPS hardware, but am willing to learn and am quite knowledgeable about i386 HW. (As I write, I am working on Cyrix 6x86 patches for Linux 2.1) Could you please assist me in finding: Linux/MIPS kernel sources & necessary program binaries (e.g. sh) i386/MIPS gcc cross development tools Hardware documentation (for R5000 and for Indy) the Linux/MIPS mailing list Also, how would I boot such a system? I believe it is on an ethernet with some i386 computers, I would rather not have to use netboot as they run Windows 95, not Linux. Thanks very much. Andrew Lewycky plewycky@oise.utoronto.ca -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+ s-:- a--- C++++ UL++++ P- L++>++++ E W+ N++ o+ K w-- O-- M- V-- PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5- X- R- tv- b++ DI+ D+(---) G e- h! r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From swilliams@cableinet.net Tue Oct 15 13:30:59 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03079 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:30:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lions.cableinet.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA07936; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:30:39 +0200 (MET) Received: from bulgaria by lions.cableinet.net via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for id MAA13110; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:30:25 +0100 Sender: swilliams@lions.cableinet.net Message-Id: <326375C8.41C6@cableinet.net> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:30:16 +0100 From: Simon Williams Organization: Cable Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: DecStation 5100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1085 Lines: 20 Hi there, I have a DecStation 5100. As far as I know it has a MIPS R3k processor. Is there any chance of Linux supporting it? It has a SCSI tape drive and currently no disks.. ( although I aquired a VAXstation 3100 at the same time which has two disks... We'll have to see whats happening with NetBSD for that one, butI may be able to steal one of the disks out of it.) Im not really up for Kernel hacking and stuff, my C is a bit rusty :) I may (will) be able to provide a mirror site as soon as I have a machine to put up ( workign for a large ISP...). I currently have an overclocked 486 150Mhz at home running linux. -- Regards, Simon +--------------------------Work-Phone-+44-01483-251-796----------------+ Simon Haighton-Williams | telnet://razors.liv.ORG:4000 Network Administrator | Free Unices: HTTP://www.linux.ORG Cable Internet | HTTP://www.netbsd.ORG | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From herrod@ncube.stanford.edu Wed Oct 16 07:27:48 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10560 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:27:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ncube (ncube.Stanford.EDU) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10503; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:27:33 +0200 (MET) Received: (from herrod@localhost) by ncube (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA13690; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:27:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:27:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199610160527.WAA13690@ncube> From: Steve Herrod To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux SGI port... Content-Length: 355 Lines: 11 Sorry, but I haven't been following this mailing list too much lately. Hopefully someone can help me. What is the final status of the work David Miller did this summer? I am interested in getting the code and porting it to run on top of the SimOS machine simulation environment (which models the hardware of SGI's). Thanks for any info, Steve Herrod From allens@vivanet.com Thu Oct 17 03:22:26 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04144 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:22:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from vivanet.com ([192.108.245.18]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16305; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:22:10 +0200 (MET) Received: from dnsdev.roc.acr.gmeds.com (root@pm4-ip151.vivanet.com [206.25.250.151]) by vivanet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27667; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dnsdev (allens@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dnsdev.roc.acr.gmeds.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00218; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:13:29 -0400 Sender: allens@mke.acr.gmeds.com Message-Id: <32658838.40852E32@vivanet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:13:28 -0400 From: Stu Allen Organization: None whatsoever X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.21 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DecStation 5100 References: <326375C8.41C6@cableinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 941 Lines: 24 Simon Williams wrote: > > Hi there, > I have a DecStation 5100. As far as I know it has a MIPS R3k processor. Hi Simon! Is that a DecSTATION or a DecSYSTEM? (Ie is it a workstation, or a server box?) If it is the second, then welcome to the club! I too have a DECsystem 5100 which is anxiously awaiting the MIPS port. Paul Antoine is the owner of the DECstation port -- you'll probably hear from him too. So far his test kernels don't run on this box - they register dump immediately after network download. I would be curious to see what results you get on your box -- maybe we could compare register dumps :-) Seriously though. I for one appreciate all the work done so far. I'm hoping to start digging into the kernel soon too - I now have a setup where I have some space to do it, if I can only find the time. It will be good to have another box to test on, if you're game. Stu Allen Linux-kernel-hacker-wannabe From tang@lifeboat.co.jp Thu Oct 17 15:06:05 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06449 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:05:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from soda3.bekkoame.or.jp ([202.231.192.83]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10510; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:04:59 +0200 (MET) Received: from DeleGate--ava (hnj1116.bekkoame.or.jp [202.231.200.116]) by soda3.bekkoame.or.jp (8.7.5+2.6W/3.5W) with SMTP id WAA20014 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:05:03 +0900 (JST) Sender: xiaodan@bekkoame.or.jp Message-Id: <3266E5C5.7B417503@lifeboat.co.jp> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:04:53 -0400 From: Xiaodan Tang at Home Organization: Lifeboat Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Can I be a Member? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 321 Lines: 15 Hello everybody? I am a programer in Japan. In my company, there is an old Sony NEWS 3640 machine. The OS is quite old and the new SONY OS 6.x is VERY VERY heavy. I am trying to port the linux-mips on it, happened I knows this mail list, can I join you and share your knowladges ? Regards, Xiaodan Tang Lifeboat Inc. From nobody@hurraknupp.powertech.no Fri Oct 18 21:01:27 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.1/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15663 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:01:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from hurraknupp.powertech.no (sx.absnet.no) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20295; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:01:18 +0200 (MET) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hurraknupp.powertech.no (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA30027 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:01:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:01:18 +0100 Message-Id: <199610181901.UAA30027@hurraknupp.powertech.no> From: walthero@absnet.no To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Phone on internet Content-Length: 252 Lines: 9 Saw your page contain stuff about telephone, maybe this product is something for you? http://sx.absnet.no/webphone/index.html In case you would like to put up a link, here's a nice buttom. http://sx.absnet.no/webphone/webphne5.jpg thanks -walther- From petteri.poyhonen@ntc.nokia.com Thu Oct 24 14:28:38 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26896 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:28:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from axl01it.ntc.nokia.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21570; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:28:13 +0200 (MET) Received: from tnds05.tele.nokia.fi (tnds05.tele.nokia.fi [131.228.116.51]) by axl01it.ntc.nokia.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA29849 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:27:08 +0300 Received: from pc-148-199 ([131.228.148.199]) by tnds05.tele.nokia.fi (8.6.9/8.6.6/1.2.kim) with SMTP id PAA02165; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:28:15 +0300 (for ) Message-Id: <326F6125.1739@ntc.nokia.com> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:29:25 +0300 From: "Petteri P\vyh\vnen" Organization: NTC X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b7 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Mips box Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 114 Lines: 6 Hello I have MIPS RC3330 box and I just wander if there is already a working Linux/MIPS for it? Thanks, Petteri From milcom@netcom.com Mon Oct 28 15:35:01 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25677 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:35:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from netcom3.netcom.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19037; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:34:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from milcom@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id GAA05034; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:34:57 -0800 From: milcom@netcom.com (wayne roberts) Message-Id: <199610281434.GAA05034@netcom3.netcom.com> Subject: the nintendo64 is a R4000 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:34:56 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 252 Lines: 6 I noticed that the nintendo 64 uses a customized R4000 running at 94Mhz. I hope by customized, it still has a MMU but i dont know how to find out. If linux could be ported to this platform, make no under-estimation that it would be the most popular. From dom@algor.co.uk Mon Oct 28 16:55:30 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25981 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:55:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from moorgate.algor.co.uk by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22031; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:55:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from bank.algor.co.uk (bank.algor.co.uk [193.117.190.11]) by moorgate.algor.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13591; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:55:18 GMT From: Dominic Sweetman Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 15:55:17 GMT Message-Id: <13261.9610281555@bank.algor.co.uk> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: the nintendo64 is a R4000 In-Reply-To: <199610281434.GAA05034@netcom3.netcom.com> References: <199610281434.GAA05034@netcom3.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.66) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1039 Lines: 25 wayne roberts (milcom@netcom.com) writes: > I noticed that the nintendo 64 uses a customized R4000 running > at 94Mhz. I hope by customized, it still has a MMU but i dont > know how to find out. The Nintendo uses a die which is also shipped as the Vr4300 CPU, which is indeed a cheapo R4000 complete with MMU and floating point hardware. It's possible that the Nintendo version doesn't bring out some critical signals, I suppose. Also, I don't know whether the MMU gets *tested* on parts shipped to Nintendo. > If linux could be ported to this platform, make no under-estimation > that it would be the most popular. The challenge would be to get some usable I/O... Linux without a keyboard or any kind of disk might not be so interesting. Dominic Sweetman phone: +44 171 700 3301 Algorithmics Ltd home: +44 171 226 0032 3 Drayton Park fax: +44 171 700 3400 London N5 1NU email: dom@algor.co.uk ENGLAND. www: http://www.algor.co.uk ftp: ftp.algor.co.uk From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Tue Oct 29 04:46:12 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29934 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:46:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA09618; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:45:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA00363; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:41:57 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199610290341.EAA00363@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id EAA23512; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:41:57 +0100 Subject: Re: the nintendo64 is a R4000 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:41:56 +0100 (MET) Cc: milcom@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <13261.9610281555@bank.algor.co.uk> from "Dominic Sweetman" at Oct 28, 96 03:55:17 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 871 Lines: 22 > wayne roberts (milcom@netcom.com) writes: > > > I noticed that the nintendo 64 uses a customized R4000 running > > at 94Mhz. I hope by customized, it still has a MMU but i dont > > know how to find out. > > The Nintendo uses a die which is also shipped as the Vr4300 CPU, which > is indeed a cheapo R4000 complete with MMU and floating point > hardware. It's possible that the Nintendo version doesn't bring out > some critical signals, I suppose. Also, I don't know whether the MMU > gets *tested* on parts shipped to Nintendo. > > > If linux could be ported to this platform, make no under-estimation > > that it would be the most popular. > > The challenge would be to get some usable I/O... Linux without a > keyboard or any kind of disk might not be so interesting. Additional I/O hardware is available in a development kit for most game consoles. Ralf From imp@village.org Tue Oct 29 04:49:32 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29973 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:49:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA09638; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:49:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0vI5B4-00040q-00; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:22 -0700 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: the nintendo64 is a R4000 Cc: milcom@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:41:56 +0100." <199610290341.EAA00363@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> References: <199610290341.EAA00363@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:49:22 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Content-Length: 344 Lines: 11 In message <199610290341.EAA00363@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Systemkennung Linux writes: : Additional I/O hardware is available in a development kit for most : game consoles. What's the cost of these develoment kits? Any ideas? The sony playstation can be had for about $100 around here. And I have an old Super NES system too :-) Warner From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Tue Oct 29 05:12:07 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA00216 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:12:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10437; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:11:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA00976; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:11:50 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199610290411.FAA00976@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id FAA23531; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:11:49 +0100 Subject: Re: the nintendo64 is a R4000 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:11:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: milcom@netcom.com In-Reply-To: from "Warner Losh" at Oct 28, 96 08:49:22 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 964 Lines: 23 > In message <199610290341.EAA00363@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> > Systemkennung Linux writes: > : Additional I/O hardware is available in a development kit for most > : game consoles. > > What's the cost of these develoment kits? Any ideas? Sorry, no. Best ask Nitendo or whoever manufactures that stuff. AFAIK Nitendo is pretty restrictive with giving out technical, information. So trying to get such a kit might become difficult. > The sony playstation can be had for about $100 around here. And I have > an old Super NES system too :-) Sony Praystation is R3000 with some matrix stuff added in cp2. Supposedly no FPU and no idea yet about full TLB hardware. Someone on this list is currently reverse engineering that beast. The NES doesn't use MIPS CPUs but a integrated variant of the MOS 65816, the 16 bit successor of the 6502. That CPU is trivial that you don't really need an assembler for small projects (a9 37 85 01 4c e2 fc ... :-) Ralf From adt@chromium.doit.wisc.edu Wed Oct 30 03:55:13 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA06228 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:55:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from chromium.doit.wisc.edu by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17441; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:54:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from lithium (adt@F182-205.net.wisc.edu [144.92.182.205]) by chromium.doit.wisc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00596 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:54:01 -0600 Sender: adt@chromium.doit.wisc.edu Message-Id: <3276D0D7.56FD9B99@chromium.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:51:51 -0600 From: Aaron David Teche Organization: University of Wisconsin -- Madison X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.23 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux-MIPS Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 461 Lines: 16 I'd be interested in helping. I have a DecStation 5000/125 available for development and a pentium-120 to build on. What is the status of the DEC port... what tools work with the DEC port... What needs to be done. Thanks. Aaron -- //---------------------------------------------------------------------- //Aaron David Teche //adt@chromium.doit.wisc.edu //University of Wisconsin -- Madison //Department of Information Technology //Installation and Repair From linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de Wed Oct 30 11:11:47 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07620 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:10:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03057; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:07:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA16852 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:07:12 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199610301007.LAA16852@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA08040; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:07:11 +0100 Subject: Re: Linux-MIPS Port To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:07:11 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <3276D0D7.56FD9B99@chromium.doit.wisc.edu> from "Aaron David Teche" at Oct 29, 96 09:51:51 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 747 Lines: 20 Hi, > I'd be interested in helping. I have a DecStation 5000/125 > available for development and a pentium-120 to build on. > What is the status of the DEC port... > what tools work with the DEC port... What needs to be done. The DECstation/R3000 port is in the very beginnings. Look on the web pages at http://lena.fnet.fr/. There is some DECstation related link with more information what currently exists. That page is maintained by Paul Antoine who did the most of what yet exists for DECstations. The Linux/MIPS tools are available via ftp at lena.fnet.fr:/linux-mips. Installing them from sources only is a bit tricky but there are also Linux binaries available. Do you wish to be subscribed to the Linux/MIPS mailing list? Ralf From owl@owlsnest.com Thu Oct 31 10:56:37 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14335 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:56:36 +0100 (MET) From: owl@owlsnest.com Received: from owlsnest.com ([206.112.60.212]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10977; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:56:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from owl@localhost) by owlsnest.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA27564; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:02:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:02:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610311002.FAA27564@owlsnest.com> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Reply-To: owl@owlsnest.com Subject: Is Your Web Site A Secret? Content-Length: 467 Lines: 14 Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet? We'll post your site to 50 search engines/indexes for $85 and complete the job in two business days. Please respond for details or call 914-278-4933. -Julie ===Web Promotions=====Press Releases=====Link Exchanges========= Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. 260 E. Main Street Brewster, NY 10509 Ph: 914-278-4933 Fx: 914-278-4507 E-mail: owlseye@owlsnest.com From owl@owlsnest.com Thu Oct 31 10:56:19 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14312 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:56:18 +0100 (MET) From: owl@owlsnest.com Received: from owlsnest.com ([206.112.60.212]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10979; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:56:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from owl@localhost) by owlsnest.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA27584; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:02:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:02:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610311002.FAA27584@owlsnest.com> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Reply-To: owl@owlsnest.com Subject: Is Your Web Site A Secret? Content-Length: 467 Lines: 14 Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet? We'll post your site to 50 search engines/indexes for $85 and complete the job in two business days. Please respond for details or call 914-278-4933. -Julie ===Web Promotions=====Press Releases=====Link Exchanges========= Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. 260 E. Main Street Brewster, NY 10509 Ph: 914-278-4933 Fx: 914-278-4507 E-mail: owlseye@owlsnest.com From neuffer@nomis.i-Connect.Net Thu Oct 31 11:11:52 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14441 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:11:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from nomis.i-Connect.Net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11538; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:11:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 5568 invoked from smtpd); 31 Oct 1996 10:14:50 -0000 Received: from nomis.i-Connect.Net (neuffer@206.139.73.10) by nomis.i-connect.net with SMTP; 31 Oct 1996 10:14:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 02:14:49 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Neuffer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret? In-Reply-To: <199610311002.FAA27584@owlsnest.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 913 Lines: 34 Ralf, do you have a nice large core for them ? My /dev/random dried out already.... :-). Mike =========================================================================== On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 owl@owlsnest.com wrote: > Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet? > > We'll post your site to 50 search engines/indexes for $85 > and complete the job in two business days. > > Please respond for details or call 914-278-4933. > > -Julie > > ===Web Promotions=====Press Releases=====Link Exchanges========= > Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. > 260 E. Main Street > Brewster, NY 10509 > Ph: 914-278-4933 Fx: 914-278-4507 E-mail: owlseye@owlsnest.com > > Michael Neuffer i-Connect.Net, a Division of iConnect Corp. mike@i-Connect.Net 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 140 503.677.2900 Beaverton, OR 97008 From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Thu Oct 31 13:09:19 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14881 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:09:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15410; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:08:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA24655 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:07:41 +0100 (MET) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199610311207.NAA24655@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id NAA25652; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:07:37 +0100 Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:07:36 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Michael Neuffer" at Oct 31, 96 02:14:49 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 199 Lines: 9 > Ralf, > > do you have a nice large core for them ? > > My /dev/random dried out already.... :-). You're the guy with the 155mbit/s account :-) Ralf (thinking about some better solution ...) From dom@algor.co.uk Thu Oct 31 13:23:48 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14969 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:23:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from moorgate.algor.co.uk ([193.117.190.9]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15956; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:23:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from gladsmuir.algor.co.uk (dom@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk [193.117.190.129]) by moorgate.algor.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27154 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:23:30 GMT From: Dom Sweetman Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:22:44 GMT Message-Id: <353.199610311222@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret? In-Reply-To: <199610311207.NAA24655@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> References: <199610311207.NAA24655@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Content-Length: 279 Lines: 11 More practically, complain to postmaster@htp.net - according to my 'traceroute' small Long Island based providers htp.net wire up the benighted souls of "owlmaster". -- Regards, Dominic Sweetman phone: +44 171 700 3301 Algorithmics Ltd email: dom@algor.co.uk