From dfrick@dial.eunet.ch Mon Jul 1 20:08:16 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08934 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:08:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.eunet.ch by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05121; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:07:54 +0200 (MET) Received: from miston.any.net by mail.eunet.ch (8.7.5/1.34) id SAA02813; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:08:26 GMT Received: (from dfrick@localhost) by miston.any.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00208; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:11:39 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199607011811.UAA00208@miston.any.net> From: Didier Frick To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199606181719.TAA09293@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> (message from Systemkennung Linux on Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:17:37 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: Lets shrink ... Content-Length: 344 Lines: 13 >>>>> "Ralf" == Systemkennung Linux writes: Hello, Ralf> Hi all, just thought the MIPS binaries are a bit to large, Ralf> so let's shrink 'em. Since yesterday shared libs are Ralf> working ... what do we need to get them to work ? In particular, which version of the binutils ? Thanks, Didier From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Mon Jul 1 21:25:20 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA10493 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:25:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06367; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:24:54 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA16377 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:24:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607011924.VAA16377@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id VAA13037; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:24:16 +0200 Subject: Re: Lets shrink ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:24:15 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607011811.UAA00208@miston.any.net> from "Didier Frick" at Jul 1, 96 08:11:39 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 798 Lines: 20 Hi, > Ralf> Hi all, just thought the MIPS binaries are a bit to large, > Ralf> so let's shrink 'em. Since yesterday shared libs are > Ralf> working ... > > what do we need to get them to work ? In particular, which version of the > binutils ? You need to rebuild GCC and to add -DWITH_SHARED_LIBS to CFLAGS. Then you'll have to install a new set of binutils based on a snapshot. (Didn't I say hell will freeze before I publish something based on snapshots? Winter starts soon ;-) The old binutils cannot handle the relocations in PIC code; when using the new libs they cannot even be used to build static executables. Finally you'll need new libraries. All three parts involved are still unpublished. I'll publish the first little endian binaries of glibc 960619 rsn; Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Jul 3 15:50:40 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03672 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:50:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19894; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:50:26 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA27851; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:46:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607031346.PAA27851@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id PAA21365; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:45:54 +0200 Subject: Libraries uploaded To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linuxmips@corp.sgi.com Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:45:53 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1314 Lines: 36 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded the first shared library binaries for Linux/MIPS to ftp.fnet.fr where they'll appear in /linux-mips/ as soon as someone has moved them online. The binaries are based on GNU libc snapshot 960619. In order to use these libraries you also have to: - Run Linux/MIPS kernel version 2.0.1 or newer. I'll upload this one rsn. - Install new binutils and GCC. These are yet unreleased; I'll release the patches rsn. This is necessary even if you link your programs static only because on MIPS even the static archives contain PIC code which the current binutils can't handle. The dynamic linker clearly still has alpha status; expect to see all sorts of bugs. The little endian binaries are those that I use on my system. I provide the big endian binaries untested and in the hope that they'll be usefull. Ralf e015d5d14cd2d9d38c30a01eafc6628f mips-linuxelf/libc-960619-2.tar.gz c23155bfbb0a62a119cc2ffae9d54b50 mipsel-linuxelf/libc-960619-2.tar.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAgUBMdp5jUckbl6vezDBAQFqQgP/Vla+a6jK9D5A6xReNq2jTwI0HZdaAI1U qKQIfq2Q7sSOau4liKpxSTsIg92MG5nmKy4k1lJNAWW0sUwsWFs+JBN1/h7kggcb 2CufsNMju0K5le257ykGe5BmVK27tNzC/SibAU8LVfV2+AehBN+VTdZAAbxWxsnn 7vvgro2IXCg= =uDU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Jul 3 22:36:28 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11348 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:36:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27098; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:36:16 +0200 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA15394 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:36:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607032036.WAA15394@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id WAA10425; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:36:15 +0200 Subject: The Penguin is dead ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:36:15 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 827 Lines: 26 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ... long live the Penguin! I've uploaded patch 2.0.1 to ftp.fnet.fr where it will appear in /linux-mips/src/kernel/v2.0/ as soon as someone moved the patches online. This patch contains Linus' 2.0.1 patch, compilation fixes for Jazz machines, disables the interrupt during the timer interrupt for the RISC PCs (RM200, rPC44, Tyne) and fixes several bugs that prevented shared libraries to work on earlier kernels. Happy hacking, Ralf 429a82beb2913aa51c848e8bdb914a73 linux-2.0.0-2.0.1.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAgUBMdrZvEckbl6vezDBAQHjEwQAsTnrV0XLZy5zZjSCFk23zxEXRfnLFj3Z /QcNy3Hjnvmg7g/HRs4IQ9Q0HvcdWzTJ2FT+agC3sT71wFK+9fNj0stedEHz8Drs q5oNuobquJxEOzrUrU6TUM+uCQQwBGthBZPfz/ODDhAhRA4KLwUEj8ZImMPPYO9H Y/nyeX68GjE= =xHcl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rogerk@wonderware.com Wed Jul 3 23:46:08 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12623 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:46:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from wonderware.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28104; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:45:57 +0200 (MET) Received: by wonderware.com (8.7.4/Techsup-2.0) id OAA15723; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: rogerk@wonderware.com (Roger Knobbe) Message-Id: <199607032146.OAA15723@wonderware.com> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Error: ERROR: Unrecognized opcode `dli' Content-Length: 670 Lines: 17 I get this message when I use the i486-linux-1.tar.gz Cross-Dev tools from ftp.fnet.fr: mipsel-linuxelf-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-1.3.98/include -Wall -Wstrict- prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4400 -mips 3 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c /tmp/cca15920.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/cca15920.s:697: Warning: `dli' not in hash table. /tmp/cca15920.s:697: Error: ERROR: Unrecognized opcode `dli' /tmp/cca15920.s:709: Warning: `dli' not in hash table. /tmp/cca15920.s:709: Error: ERROR: Unrecognized opcode `dli' make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 What am I doing wrong? Is there a better set of tools than i486-linux-1? rog. From ralf@Julia.DE Thu Jul 4 05:14:56 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA20245 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:14:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02674; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:14:46 +0200 (MET) Received: from bryant.intern.julia.de (ralf@bryant.intern.julia.de [194.221.49.34]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA02149 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:16:55 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by bryant.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA20618 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:19:47 +0200 Message-Id: <199607040319.FAA20618@bryant.intern.julia.de> Subject: Re: Error: ERROR: Unrecognized opcode `dli' To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:19:47 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607032146.OAA15723@wonderware.com> from "Roger Knobbe" at Jul 3, 96 02:46:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 28 Hi Roger, > I get this message when I use the i486-linux-1.tar.gz Cross-Dev tools from > ftp.fnet.fr: > > mipsel-linuxelf-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-1.3.98/include -Wall -Wstrict- > prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4400 -mips > 3 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c > /tmp/cca15920.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/cca15920.s:697: Warning: `dli' not in hash table. > /tmp/cca15920.s:697: Error: ERROR: Unrecognized opcode `dli' > /tmp/cca15920.s:709: Warning: `dli' not in hash table. > /tmp/cca15920.s:709: Error: ERROR: Unrecognized opcode `dli' > make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 > > What am I doing wrong? Is there a better set of tools than i486-linux-1? You made nothing wrong. The tools that are available on ftp.fnet.fr as Linux binaries are simply outdated and that's something that I should have taken care of ... Please update to the newest versions of GCC/binutils that are available on ftp.fnet.fr. The new assembler is capable of handling the dli instruction. If you have some days time then wait until I release the next version of the binutils which will also be able to handle shared libs. Ralf From asharpe@sco.COM Thu Jul 4 08:00:21 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23283 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:00:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sco.sco.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05213; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:00:09 +0200 (MET) Received: from grandad.pdev.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa06913; 3 Jul 96 22:50 PDT Received: from tehama.pdev.sco.com by grandpa.pdev.sco.com id aa15688; 3 Jul 96 22:51 PDT Received: from ergo.pdev.sco.COM by tehama.sco.com id aa04874; 3 Jul 96 22:45 PDT From: Andrew Sharpe Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:54:57 PDT X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: NWS3260 port Message-Id: <9607032254.aa23762@ergo.sco.com> Content-Length: 629 Lines: 17 Hi, I have a Sony NEWS NWS-3260 (basically, a 3250 with more base memory). I bought the machine with the original OS on it (NEWS-OS 4.0R), and I have no installation media for it. It works quite well, but if I lose any critical files... Therefore, I'm extremely interested in the Linux/Mips project. Any information that you have would be greatly appreciated. In addition, I have been a Unix kernel engineer for about 20 years. Most of my experience has been on System V based platforms, and Intel architectures, but I might be able to assist you in some way. Thanks very much, Andrew Sharpe asharpe@sco.com From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Jul 10 14:09:12 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23852 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:09:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05705; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:08:21 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA00383 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:07:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607101207.OAA00383@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id OAA20099; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:07:41 +0200 Subject: Kernel patches To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:07:39 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1324 Lines: 43 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, here are another three kernel patches. Most important MIPS change is a partial rewrite of the signal handler for Linux/MIPS 2.0.1. This change breaks certain binaries like bash/tcsh when you press . Though it's a libc problem I added a configurable compatibility hack to the kernel. You can toggle this switch in . During my libc hackery I've discovered a libc bug. For trampolines like the one in use in the following code fragment: int foo(void) { int bar(void) { [...] } zap(bar); } GCC creates bad code - it flushs the data cache but not the instruction cache. For -mlong64 the code is even far less than optimal. I've fixed both things in the code generator and will post a new patch rsn. Ralf 00b12fa38f30f4e0f6d705f67f73775e linux-2.0.1-2.0.2.diffs.gz a66613706136526dbddb99143532556c linux-2.0.2-2.0.3.diffs.gz 7c4ca22be02ea6da5353ee98f5f31d88 linux-2.0.3-2.0.4.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAgUBMeOdB0ckbl6vezDBAQGtzgP+PpsiKx5ebZ7aUG6xilE7mrJAQha9X/ME Zhb0feTVPPeZnhpW8U54G9NElABOyK4fuIMvOpjGE9S5ve7UczP8PkaNRbWi7LgA sFq+xra6iAjgrlI2JjyVQJelHlw7lQ36prPR2NunhF7qJw1bpoC8diAwQL4zoETH ADzwVabC9qU= =jlqG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From magi@imagic.com.au Thu Jul 11 14:58:15 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23042 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:58:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA12907; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:57:56 +0200 (MET) Received: from paulr.ozemail.com.au (slbri3p23.ozemail.com.au [203.7.176.183]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA09850 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:57:58 +1000 Message-Id: <31E4EB0C.4F02@imagic.com.au> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:52:44 +1100 From: Paul Rogers Organization: Imagic Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: SGI X-Url: http://lena.fnet.fr/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 218 Lines: 8 Sorry to bother you folk. Trying to settle an argument. Will Linux/MIPS run on an SGI workstation? An Indy perhaps. Presume so. If so, is this a replacement for IRIX? Apologies for a naive question. Cheers, Paul R From lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com Thu Jul 11 17:51:52 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26356 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:51:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sgigate.SGI.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA18926; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:51:34 +0200 (MET) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406a.SGI) for <@sgigate.sgi.com:linux-mips@fnet.fr> id IAA13194; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:51:41 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com (neteng.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA06029 for <@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com:linux-mips@fnet.fr>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:51:40 -0700 Received: (from lm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA00193 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:51:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:51:40 -0700 From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) Message-Id: <199607111551.IAA00193@neteng.engr.sgi.com> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: SGI Content-Length: 1075 Lines: 24 There are two efforts going, both of which are happily feeding off each other (or at least the SGI stuff is feeding off of the Linux-mips stuff). THe SGI hardware is different than the other stuff out there - the other stuff looks more like a PC, has PC byte order, PC devices, etc. THe SGI hardware is, well, SGI hardware. We are just getting started with the Linux/SGI (I dunno what we want to call it) effort. It is currently booting single user over NFS on an Indy, we just got a disk driver last night. It runs IRIX binaries (elf, and maybe some day old COFF binaries) as long as we've added all the little IRIX isms. SO far, stuff like sed, awk, that sort of thing, works. The intent is that you will be able to choose to run either IRIX or Linux, with either all free userland (standard Linux) or all IRIX binaries (maybe a few things have to get wacked, like ps). The guy doing all the work (or at least 99% of it) is David Miller, the Sparc/Linux guy. We bought him :-) --lm --- Larry McVoy lm@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/lm (415) 933-1804 From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Thu Jul 11 18:26:30 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27139 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19707; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:05 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA17247 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607111626.SAA17247@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id SAA25548; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:04 +0200 Subject: Linux/MIPS 2.0.5 uploaded To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:03 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1116 Lines: 32 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded Linux/MIPS patch 2.0.5 to ftp.fnet.fr where it will be available in /linux-mips/src/kernel/v2.0/linux-2.0.4-2.0.5.gz as soon as the admins have moved the patch online. Noteable MIPS changes are fixed interrupt handlers for the Deskstation Type and rPC44 and Jazz machines. They were broken since 1.3.99 and you guys reported that to me sooo fast ;-) Ralf (The latest patch on ftp.fnet.fr is still 2.0.1. I'll mail the admins. For now I'll assume that they're on holiday and will move my newer uploads online when they return. Those who feel like needing the patches urgently should get the patches from /linux-mips/private/Incoming/ which doesn't get mirrored due to private having no read bits.) 0f0edf8aa40b8ae73a25c1f99bbe145f linux-2.0.4-2.0.5.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAgUBMeUrF0ckbl6vezDBAQH5QQQAowgsXX/sU+P6e6SrdVfoR7y26eQ3whl6 ks93FqqkdOcL0Q9kC07zCJJnnib/fpR0GImnanCAg2bE5wHX1qiyKrg4snffQhbg PQUNi8Ny3b9pyzNltoB2MHBRYq9KVKgPxEyhNETAzs/58fDeySesVshnxAIZvA6i VWLYeWVUwyk= =yzMD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Thu Jul 11 19:01:00 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27916 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:00:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20283; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:00:38 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA18326 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:00:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607111700.TAA18326@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA25610; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:00:41 +0200 Subject: Patches upto 2.0.5 now online To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:00:40 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 29 Lines: 3 Subject says it all, Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Thu Jul 11 19:46:53 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28649 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:46:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21042; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:46:34 +0200 (MET) Received: from bryant.intern.julia.de (ralf@bryant.intern.julia.de [194.221.49.34]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03137 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:48:43 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by bryant.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA28369 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:50:40 +0200 Message-Id: <199607111750.TAA28369@bryant.intern.julia.de> Subject: Re: SGI To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:50:40 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607111551.IAA00193@neteng.engr.sgi.com> from "Larry McVoy" at Jul 11, 96 08:51:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1401 Lines: 35 Hi, > There are two efforts going, both of which are happily feeding off each > other (or at least the SGI stuff is feeding off of the Linux-mips stuff). > > THe SGI hardware is different than the other stuff out there - the other > stuff looks more like a PC, has PC byte order, PC devices, etc. THe > SGI hardware is, well, SGI hardware. > > We are just getting started with the Linux/SGI (I dunno what we want > to call it) effort. I like Linux/MIPS as name because it neutral with respect to the manufaturer of the box. Usefull to avoid confussion ("Will Linux/SNI binaries run on my Linux/SGI system? It is currently booting single user over NFS > on an Indy, we just got a disk driver last night. It runs IRIX > binaries (elf, and maybe some day old COFF binaries) as long as > we've added all the little IRIX isms. SO far, stuff like sed, awk, > that sort of thing, works. COFF will be also interesting for the DECstations and old Mips, Inc systems. I don't have a use for it but there is probably a volunteer on this list? > The guy doing all the work (or at least 99% of it) is David Miller, the > Sparc/Linux guy. We bought him :-) :-) Oh, this mail is another proof that somewhere mail to my university gets lost. I only received Larry's reply. If someone is still waiting for an answer from me please send it again and CC to ralf@julia.de. Ralf From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Fri Jul 12 03:47:32 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA09037 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:47:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29803; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:47:12 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id BAA04451; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:47:07 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA27380; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:46:46 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199607120146.AA27380@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: SGI To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:46:46 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199607111750.TAA28369@bryant.intern.julia.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Jul 11, 96 07:50:40 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1546 Lines: 36 Hi folks! I've been off-line for a bit with my day job... > It is currently booting single user over NFS > > on an Indy, we just got a disk driver last night. It runs IRIX > > binaries (elf, and maybe some day old COFF binaries) as long as > > we've added all the little IRIX isms. SO far, stuff like sed, awk, > > that sort of thing, works. > > COFF will be also interesting for the DECstations and old Mips, Inc systems. > I don't have a use for it but there is probably a volunteer on this list? This is certainly in the 'todo' list for the DECstation port, though it is way down towards the end of that list. No one has currently volunteered to write the code, but I'll naturally be happy to co-ordinate its inclusion in the DECstation port. > > The guy doing all the work (or at least 99% of it) is David Miller, the > > Sparc/Linux guy. We bought him :-) > > :-) What I want to know is: "What with?" I know some people on this list can be bought for a case of beer... :-) Regards, Paul (sometime co-ordinator of the Linux/MIPS ports for DECstation & R3000) _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Jul 12 14:06:51 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21020 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:06:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from relay2.EUnet.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16283; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:45:59 +0200 (MET) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by relay2.eunet.fr (5.65c8d/96.05.03) via EUnet-France id AA25814; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:45:35 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA29847 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:43:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607121143.NAA29847@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id NAA28014; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:43:13 +0200 Subject: Re: SGI To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:43:12 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607120146.AA27380@suite.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Jul 12, 96 11:46:46 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 812 Lines: 20 Hi folks! > > COFF will be also interesting for the DECstations and old Mips, Inc systems. > > I don't have a use for it but there is probably a volunteer on this list? > > This is certainly in the 'todo' list for the DECstation port, though > it is way down towards the end of that list. No one has currently > volunteered to write the code, but I'll naturally be happy to > co-ordinate its inclusion in the DECstation port. For a long time noone of you DECstation people has posted. What's the status? There are some people in switzerland that are working on R3000 stuff which will be very usefull for the DEC. > What I want to know is: "What with?" I know some people on this list > can be bought for a case of beer... :-) I think I've been corrupted twice with MIPS hardware (it works!) ... Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Sat Jul 13 03:15:48 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10515 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:15:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03211; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:15:26 +0200 (MET) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA03539 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:15:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607130115.DAA03539@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id DAA14679; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:15:32 +0200 Subject: Sony NEWS To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:15:32 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 87 Lines: 5 Hi, Sony Japan seems also interested in Linux/MIPS for their NEWS systems :-) Ralf From asharpe@sco.COM Sat Jul 13 03:45:07 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA11091 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:45:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sco.sco.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03881; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:44:49 +0200 (MET) Received: from grandad.pdev.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa15888; 12 Jul 96 18:39 PDT Received: from tehama.pdev.sco.com by grandpa.pdev.sco.com id aa03716; 12 Jul 96 18:40 PDT Received: from ergo.pdev.sco.COM by tehama.sco.com id aa19572; 12 Jul 96 18:34 PDT From: Andrew Sharpe Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:40:27 PDT X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Sony NEWS Message-Id: <9607121840.aa01948@ergo.sco.com> Content-Length: 303 Lines: 13 Perhaps they will port it to the NWS3260. If _they_ don't, I'm going to have to assert myself, and do it myself :-). A# On Jul 13, 3:15am, linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (Systemkennung Linux) wrote: : Hi, : : Sony Japan seems also interested in Linux/MIPS for their NEWS systems :-) : : Ralf : From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Sat Jul 13 03:52:29 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA11260 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:52:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04082; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:52:10 +0200 (MET) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA04216 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607130152.DAA04216@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id DAA14717; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:52:21 +0200 Subject: Re: Sony NEWS To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:52:21 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <9607121840.aa01948@ergo.sco.com> from "Andrew Sharpe" at Jul 12, 96 06:40:27 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 436 Lines: 12 Hi, > Perhaps they will port it to the NWS3260. If _they_ don't, I'm going > to have to assert myself, and do it myself :-). You've got a quite old box so I assume that you'll have to port at least partially yourself if their interest should proof to be serious. I think it will take some time until a company will invest as much in Linux as SGI. Whatever - the Linux train is rolling and others are ready to jump on it :-) Ralf From venaas@nvg.unit.no Mon Jul 15 15:57:38 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23942 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:57:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.unit.no by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26447; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:57:13 +0200 (MET) Received: from fdiv.nvg.unit.no ([129.241.163.226]) by sabre-wulf.nvg.unit.no with ESMTP id <62548-22084>; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:57:26 +0100 Received: by fdiv.nvg.unit.no (smallmail v1.18) for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:53:33 +0200 Message-Id: <28973.31494.837438813@fdiv.nvg.unit.no> From: Stig Venaas Subject: Linux/MIPS mailing list To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:53:33 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: Nettverksgruppa - NTNU X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 241 Lines: 8 Hi I'm the proud owner of an R3000 Indigo and would like to join your list. Is there any support for the Indigo or the R3000 at all? I have no experience with kernel development, but would like to try to do some work on this perhaps. Stig From dfrick@dial.eunet.ch Tue Jul 16 01:36:36 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA05855 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:36:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.eunet.ch by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22041; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:36:14 +0200 (MET) Received: from miston.any.net by mail.eunet.ch (8.7.5/1.34) id XAA16016; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:37:17 GMT Received: (from dfrick@localhost) by miston.any.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00166; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:40:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:40:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199607152340.BAA00166@miston.any.net> From: Didier Frick To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199607121143.NAA29847@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> (message from Systemkennung Linux on Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:43:12 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: SGI Content-Length: 1221 Lines: 31 >>>>> "Ralf" == Systemkennung Linux writes: Hi all ! [...] Ralf> For a long time noone of you DECstation people has posted. Ralf> What's the status? There are some people in switzerland Ralf> that are working on R3000 stuff which will be very usefull Ralf> for the DEC. Well, we hope so :-) A little status report: our working version of the kernel is now moderately usable on our R3052-based (R3000 instruction set) board. I made major changes to the TLB code , which is now horrendously unefficient, but seems to work. We also changed various spots throughout the mips-specific parts to make them R3000 compatible and endianness-independent. The trouble is: our version is based on version 1.3.98 of the kernel. We would now like to integrate kernel updates up to 2.0.max and make our R3000 adaptations available. I suggest that some assembly-language files (for example head.S) be splitted into R3000 and R4000 versions because they really become cluttered with conditional directives. Besides, we really need to have shared library support. Does anybody have any hints on how to do all this in the most efficient way (if there's one :-) ? Thanks, Didier From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Tue Jul 16 04:24:15 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA10823 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:24:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29787; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:23:49 +0200 (MET) Received: from seghers (seghers.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.60]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA09477 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:24:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607160224.EAA09477@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by seghers (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id EAA19624; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:24:03 +0200 Subject: Re: SGI To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:24:02 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607152340.BAA00166@miston.any.net> from "Didier Frick" at Jul 16, 96 01:40:28 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2509 Lines: 57 Bonjour Didier, > Ralf> For a long time noone of you DECstation people has posted. > Ralf> What's the status? There are some people in switzerland > Ralf> that are working on R3000 stuff which will be very usefull > Ralf> for the DEC. > > Well, we hope so :-) Not to forget R3000 Indigos ... > A little status report: our working version of the kernel is now moderately > usable on our R3052-based (R3000 instruction set) board. > I made major changes to the TLB code , which is now horrendously unefficient, > but seems to work. We also changed various spots throughout the mips-specific > parts to make them R3000 compatible and endianness-independent. Indeed, as written the code wasn't the right thing to fit the R3000. > The trouble is: our version is based on version 1.3.98 of the kernel. We > would now like to integrate kernel updates up to 2.0.max and make our > R3000 adaptations available. Luckily we're living in a time of code freeze, so this won't be that hard. > I suggest that some assembly-language files (for example head.S) be splitted > into R3000 and R4000 versions because they really become cluttered with > conditional directives. Yes, you're completly right. My plan was to put all the code dealing with exception handling from head.S into mips[1-4]/. The parts of machine and prozessor specific initialization that are in head.S should be rewritten to C for maintainability and go into /setup.c and arch/mips/kernel/setup.c. What will finally be left in head.S is more or less nothing but initializing a few CPU register. > Besides, we really need to have shared library support. I'm still debugging. GCC, binutils and the dynamic linker had bugs. The bugs in GCC are gone and since two days I finally have a set of binutils where all the annoying bugs like abort when striping most files are gone also; the dynamic linker is getting more reliable also. > Does anybody have any hints on how to do all this in the most efficient > way (if there's one :-) ? The shared library stuff is the easy part to do for you: nothing to do because the minimal required support is already in the kernel and the userland is completly o32 ABI/MIPS ISA I. For the rest just send me a diff using options -urN. I assume that most of you patches can easily be integrated; we can then talk about how to integrate the rest of the patches. I'm not yet as swamped with patches as Linus is, so this will probably pretty painless for you. Ralf From dm@neteng.engr.sgi.com Tue Jul 16 04:33:38 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11031 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:33:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sgigate.SGI.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00334; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:33:16 +0200 (MET) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406a.SGI) for <@sgigate.sgi.com:linux-mips@fnet.fr> id TAA07446; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:33:31 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com (neteng.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA03976 for <@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com:linux-mips@fnet.fr>; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:33:30 -0700 Received: (from dm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA14871; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:33:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:33:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199607160233.TAA14871@neteng.engr.sgi.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199607160224.EAA09477@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> (message from Systemkennung Linux on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:24:02 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: SGI Reply-To: dm@sgi.com Content-Length: 2115 Lines: 48 From: Systemkennung Linux Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:24:02 +0200 (MET DST) Yes, you're completly right. My plan was to put all the code dealing with exception handling from head.S into mips[1-4]/. The parts of machine and prozessor specific initialization that are in head.S should be rewritten to C for maintainability and go into /setup.c and arch/mips/kernel/setup.c. What will finally be left in head.S is more or less nothing but initializing a few CPU register. This is not the way to do it. My current tree (which I hope to merge with Ralf some time soon, there are over 2 megs of diffs between my tree and his, 90% of it is not SGI specific) will eventually allow one kernel to work on any MIPS out there, regardless of processor type endianness etc. Added to this list my tree also: 1) Supports multiple TLB pids at once, Ralf flushed the entire TLB every context switch, this was gross for performance. 2) Fine grained cache/tlb flushing on r4k. Again Ralf flushed the entire thing all the time, again gross for performance. 3) Optimized memcpy/memset, basically I'm getting 8 times the performance for pipe bandwidth than I did previously. csum and csum_partial routines are being coded as I speak. 4) Not one #ifdef __RBLAH__ anywhere in the code. 5) One endian (little-endian) ext2 filesystems for both big and little endian MIPS/Linux kernels. (code borrowed from Sparc port) The shared library stuff is the easy part to do for you: nothing to do because the minimal required support is already in the kernel and the userland is completly o32 ABI/MIPS ISA I. 6) Support for n32 binaries is halfway complete. 7) %80 of all o32 IRIX binaries I have tested work with my IRIX system call compatability code. This includes an IRIX dynamically linked bash, all of my GNU cross development tools (I build kernels on my INDY using IRIX binaries of the GNU utilities under MIPS/Linux) and half of the lmbench suite. 8) Lots of stability work. Later, David S. Miller dm@sgi.com From beurton@nil.fnet.fr Fri Jul 19 16:46:21 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08118 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:46:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from nil.fnet.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16520; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:46:11 +0200 (MET) Received: from nil.fnet.fr (localhost.fnet.fr [127.0.0.1]) by nil.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11169 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:47:31 +0100 (METDST) Message-Id: <199607191547.QAA11169@nil.fnet.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: it's a test ! X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:47:30 +0100 From: Luc Beurton Content-Length: 49 Lines: 4 The mailling list has moved. So I test it. Luc. From imp@rover.village.org Sat Jul 20 05:23:32 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10100 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:23:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02607; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:23:20 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA18371 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:23:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607200323.VAA18371@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: SGI In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:33:30 PDT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:23:40 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 248 Lines: 9 : Added to this list my tree also: Cool! That's good news for the project. I hope to see them in a new kernel soon. What's a n32 and an o32 binary? Hey Ralf, have you integrated it yet. It has been 4 whole days since David posted :-) Warner From imp@rover.village.org Sat Jul 20 05:28:50 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10133 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:28:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03181; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:28:28 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA18440 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607200328.VAA18440@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Cross compiler tools Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:28:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 198 Lines: 5 Just noticed that if you strip the cross compilers, they take up 5M less space. I built these, so I don't know if the prebuilts have this problem or not, but I thought I'd pass it along... Warner From imp@rover.village.org Sat Jul 20 05:33:42 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10823 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:33:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03711; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:33:30 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA18485 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:33:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607200333.VAA18485@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Libraries uploaded In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:45:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:33:49 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 210 Lines: 6 : e015d5d14cd2d9d38c30a01eafc6628f mips-linuxelf/libc-960619-2.tar.gz : c23155bfbb0a62a119cc2ffae9d54b50 mipsel-linuxelf/libc-960619-2.tar.gz I may be blind, but I can't seem to find these anywhere. Warner From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Sat Jul 20 17:39:54 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14548 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:39:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28620; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:39:39 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA26241 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:39:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607201539.RAA26241@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA08808; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:39:58 +0200 Subject: Re: SGI To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:39:58 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607200323.VAA18371@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jul 19, 96 09:23:40 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1413 Lines: 31 Hi, > Cool! That's good news for the project. I hope to see them in a new > kernel soon. What's a n32 and an o32 binary? There is the o32 ABI which uses the calling convention you know. For the 64bit ABI a new calling convention has been developed with modifications to which registers are caller saved, callee saved and - probably most interesting - six parameter passing registers. It has been found that much code needs to be fixed for the 64bit ABI. So as logic next step a new 32bit ABI n32 has been developed. It offers the better performance made possible by the 64bit ABI combined with the compatibility to the old 32bit stuff. That at least is a very short and inexact explanations. There are some Postscript documents available from SGI's webserver. Look in the Linux/MIPS webpages at http://lena.fnet.fr/, it has the document numbers. > Hey Ralf, have you integrated it yet. It has been 4 whole days since > David posted :-) Nothing at all. One reasing is that I had to spend the days in bed, the other that Dave hasn't set me the code yet. Dave abviously addressed some of the most important problems, especially the cachflushing thing was something that I wasn't pround of ... Oh, I've binutils 2.7 ready for release including binary packages. I'll have to go to the university to upload 'em, that NetBSE "maillost" is that badly misconfigured that I can't do uploads ... Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Sat Jul 20 17:43:39 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14594 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:43:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28683; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:43:30 +0200 (MET) Received: from thoma (thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA26427 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:43:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199607201543.RAA26427@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA08825; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:43:51 +0200 Subject: Re: Cross compiler tools To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:43:51 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607200328.VAA18440@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jul 19, 96 09:28:26 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 444 Lines: 12 Hi, > Just noticed that if you strip the cross compilers, they take up 5M > less space. I built these, so I don't know if the prebuilts have this > problem or not, but I thought I'd pass it along... Those that I've built are built with -O2 -s and not -g, so they are be of minimals size. I could try to play again with --enable-shared again but at least looong time ago when I tried last this feature was broken for crosscompilers. Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Mon Jul 22 18:52:27 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00677 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:52:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23620; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:51:50 +0200 (MET) Received: from bryant.intern.julia.de (ralf@bryant.intern.julia.de [194.221.49.34]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19320 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:51:09 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by bryant.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09601 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:55:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199607221655.SAA09601@bryant.intern.julia.de> Subject: Binutils patches/binaries To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:55:25 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 2447 Lines: 49 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded patches for binutils 2.7 to ftp.fnet.fr. Apply the patches to the vanilla binutils distribution that is available from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/binutils-2.7.tar.gz or it's mirrors eg. ftp.leo.org for Germany. I've also uploaded binaries of the binutils for Linux/i386 (built on Linux 2.0.6 with Linux libc 5.2.18), SunOS 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.5. The Sparc binaries have been compiled with -mv8, so your old iron won't like these files ... All the binaries have been compiled for /usr/local/. For installation just cd to / and do "gzip -cd | tar xf -" - that's all! The new binutils are required for shared libraries. 2.7 also fixes numerous bugs and looks so far much better than the previous releases. If anybody is interested in getting binaries for another system flavour, please tell me. I'll then try to get an account on that type of machine and make a package. Ralf faaaa7adfd50966c189834250ac9489f binutils-2.7-1.diffs.gz d50d9a30fc39e981aa6f5b1ee3dcb921 crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linux/binutils-2.7.tar.gz dc91404c6caaf0cbaa785650b14aa1a3 crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linuxelf/binutils-2.7.tar.gz 164f9ded161a4f3e506fc4de29885767 crossdev/i486-linux/mipsel-linux/binutils-2.7.tar.gz a1ce5ec7b196e8dbe1f7ac045f1c300e crossdev/i486-linux/mipsel-linuxelf/binutils-2.7.tar.gz 4293978dc456cdbdcde682be77f9c71c crossdev/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/mips-linux/binutils-2.7.tar.gz 82c730bc44bee813a59970800daaa96d crossdev/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/mips-linuxelf/binutils-2.7.tar.gz a53d5430223f955f811275a84190244f crossdev/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/mipsel-linux/binutils-2.7.tar.gz 53fad29125ff55bc93107024babc6ec3 crossdev/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/mipsel-linuxelf/binutils-2.7.tar.gz b21af9e0ba7eb3a97464bd6d072719ec crossdev/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/mips-linux/binutils-2.7.tar.gz c2b645c4a6741cf6e7c5afac986ce571 crossdev/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/mips-linuxelf/binutils-2.7.tar.gz 65b59c908c33919a8e171a37dfe85772 crossdev/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/mipsel-linuxelf/binutils-2.7.tar.gz d4cfabd84c27c767601d2f92cdd951bf crossdev/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3/mipsel-linux/binutils-2.7.tar.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBMfOyfUckbl6vezDBAQG9CQP+NIGw+7ZgVQXFSWS7K7V2xhFeZkpHaYee NBd5wzc1AxeBL5EUR0vlpjJiwxFcjNZgTWDC9iUXdoDMuYewjBYt/CL5GVoVZp91 p1+OCYgfOtl4bB65dnktKDKMCpcwjjyIGWGj2KhyEJi5oIhTKLr3pWZovXUgANTy RHYKV02cjE8= =rk8t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jps@siteways.nl Tue Jul 23 13:48:10 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00301 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:48:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns.siteways.nl by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29447; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:48:17 +0200 (MET) Received: from isis (isis.siteways.nl [194.151.90.141]) by ns.siteways.nl (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA29834 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:52:12 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: jps@ns.siteways.nl Message-Id: <31F4B7E9.794B@siteways.nl> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:30:54 +0200 From: Jan Paul Stegeman Organization: Siteways Webservices X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 35 Hello. I've got a few questions for you. I checked out your Linux/MIPS page and I became very interested in the project. Since three years, I've been running (and hacking) Linux on my 486- "thing" at home. At my work (I'm a system operator / programmer / technician) I have access to a lot of different SGI workstations and servers. A few (say 20) of Indy's, some Indigo's, some Challenge-S servers, and a Challenge XL. That is immediately my biggest problem: SGI workstations are never mentioned inside your site. So I wonder if there is support at all for SGI Stations; a strange thing, since MIPS is in fact 'an SGI company'. If SGI is on the list of supported computers, I would gladly join the project. My experience: Unix: 4.4BSD (internals), SVR4 (internals) IRIX internals (as far as that's possible with SGI :-) Programming: C, x86 Assembler, Pascal, etc. Computers: I'm a computer engineer, so that's no problem And a lot of SGI experience. I hope to hear from you. Meanwhile, I'll check out the distributions or sources for the project. Bye. -- Jan Paul Stegeman Siteways Webservices tel: 020-4220800 email: jps@siteways.nl From ralf@Julia.DE Tue Jul 23 15:04:41 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00591 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:04:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01900; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:04:45 +0200 (MET) Received: from bryant.intern.julia.de (ralf@bryant.intern.julia.de [194.221.49.34]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15684; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:03:59 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by bryant.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22341; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199607231308.PAA22341@bryant.intern.julia.de> Subject: Re: . To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:08:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jps@siteways.nl In-Reply-To: <31F4B7E9.794B@siteways.nl> from "Jan Paul Stegeman" at Jul 23, 96 01:30:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1366 Lines: 38 Hi Jan, > I've got a few questions for you. I checked out your Linux/MIPS page > and I became very interested in the project. :-) > Since three years, I've been running (and hacking) Linux on my 486- > "thing" at home. At my work (I'm a system operator / programmer / > technician) I have access to a lot of different SGI workstations and > servers. A few (say 20) of Indy's, some Indigo's, some Challenge-S > servers, and a Challenge XL. > > That is immediately my biggest problem: SGI workstations are never > mentioned inside your site. So I wonder if there is support at all for > SGI Stations; a strange thing, since MIPS is in fact 'an SGI company'. Well, you didn't read everything :-) David S. Miller is currently porting my MIPS port (for a number of more or less PC-like machines and DECstations) to SGI workstations. For now it isn't yet working on all types of SGI machines but progress is fast and a first distribution is expected soon. > If SGI is on the list of supported computers, I would gladly join the > project. My experience: > > Unix: 4.4BSD (internals), SVR4 (internals) > IRIX internals (as far as that's possible with SGI :-) objdump -d :-) > Programming: C, x86 Assembler, Pascal, etc. > Computers: I'm a computer engineer, so that's no problem > And a lot of SGI experience. Ralf (I've subscribed you to the list) From dm@neteng.engr.sgi.com Tue Jul 23 15:09:48 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00647 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:09:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sgigate.SGI.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02099; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:09:48 +0200 (MET) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406a.SGI) id GAA00846; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:09:44 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com (neteng.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA20450; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:09:43 -0700 Received: (from dm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA18202; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:09:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:09:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199607231309.GAA18202@neteng.engr.sgi.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: jps@siteways.nl In-Reply-To: <199607231308.PAA22341@bryant.intern.julia.de> (message from Ralf Baechle on Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:08:21 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: . Reply-To: dm@sgi.com Content-Length: 1563 Lines: 35 From: Ralf Baechle Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:08:21 +0200 (MET DST) > That is immediately my biggest problem: SGI workstations are never > mentioned inside your site. So I wonder if there is support at all for > SGI Stations; a strange thing, since MIPS is in fact 'an SGI company'. Well, you didn't read everything :-) David S. Miller is currently porting my MIPS port (for a number of more or less PC-like machines and DECstations) to SGI workstations. For now it isn't yet working on all types of SGI machines but progress is fast and a first distribution is expected soon. Once my mentors (Greg Chesson and Larry McVoy) return from their respective buisness trips at the end of the week I will work on merging my massive kernel changes back to Ralf. Libc is coming along (Ralf and I are already working closely on this one) so I should be able to build a set of binaries to make up the Red Hat base install set and work from there. > If SGI is on the list of supported computers, I would gladly join the > project. My experience: > > Unix: 4.4BSD (internals), SVR4 (internals) > IRIX internals (as far as that's possible with SGI :-) objdump -d :-) I miss adb on the Sparc, and have grown used to dbx for these purposes ;-) ----------------------------------------------//// Yow! 233 microsecond remote host TCP latency ---- beat that --------------------------------------------////__________ o __ , . , David S. Miller, dm@engr.sgi.com /_____________/ / / / /_/ >< From alp%gambit.msk.su@oxford.gambit.msk.su Tue Jul 23 15:48:09 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00842 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:48:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03345; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:48:14 +0200 (MET) Received: from oxford.gambit.msk.su by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA16621 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:37:11 +0400 Received: from dublin by oxford.gambit.msk.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA07737; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:30:56 +0400 Sender: alp@gambit.msk.su Message-Id: <31F4D418.6C81@gambit.msk.su> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:31:04 +0400 From: Alexey Panteleev Organization: Gambit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: MIPS RC2030??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 190 Lines: 8 hi, i've got some old MIPS RC2030 box running MIPS RISC/OS, i'd really like to install some newer unix-like system on this dusty thing. can you advise me anything? thanx a million, alexey From angus@aero.gla.ac.uk Tue Jul 23 15:37:13 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00733 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:37:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from atlantis.aero.gla.ac.uk by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02941; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:37:07 +0200 (MET) Received: from atlantis (localhost [127.0.0.1] sender angus) by atlantis.aero.gla.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/UK-2.2a/aero-mips) with SMTP id OAA09446; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:32:42 +0100 Sender: angus@aero.gla.ac.uk Message-Id: <31F4D479.41C6@aero.gla.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:32:41 +0100 From: Angus MacCuish Organization: University of Glasgow X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: angus@aero.gla.ac.uk Subject: Linux info X-Url: http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/#ninth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1342 Lines: 38 Hi, I am interested in the development of Linux and would like to know more, or even help out if possible. I am a systems programmer/manager, working with a cluster of 20 SGI Indys running IRIX5.3. I have access to a spare R4600 - the 'hinv' command produces the following info: Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 132 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 8-bit Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected We also have R4400 and R5000 machines in the department. If you could add me to any relevant mailing list then I would be very grateful. Thanks, Angus -- Angus MacCuish email: angus@aero.gla.ac.uk Dept. of Aerospace Engineering tel: +44 (0)141 339 8855 Ext 2216 University of Glasgow fax: +44 (0)141 330 5560 SCOTLAND URL: http://www.aero.gla.ac.uk/People/angus From ralf@Julia.DE Tue Jul 23 15:57:54 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00896 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:57:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03671; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:57:52 +0200 (MET) Received: from bryant.intern.julia.de (ralf@bryant.intern.julia.de [194.221.49.34]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16883; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:57:12 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by bryant.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22629; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:01:33 +0200 Message-Id: <199607231401.QAA22629@bryant.intern.julia.de> Subject: Re: Linux info To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:01:33 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: angus@aero.gla.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <31F4D479.41C6@aero.gla.ac.uk> from "Angus MacCuish" at Jul 23, 96 02:32:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1440 Lines: 41 Hi, > I am interested in the development of Linux and would > like to know more, or even help out if possible. I am a > systems programmer/manager, working with a cluster of > 20 SGI Indys running IRIX5.3. I have access to a spare > R4600 - the 'hinv' command produces the following info: > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 132 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Main memory size: 64 Mbytes > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D WD33C93? Didn't know that anything else but Amigas uses these chips. Dunno if David has added support for this chip but this will be easy, if not because it's already supported for Linux/68k. Otherwise I think with this machine you're in the Linux race. (David, correct me if I tell wrong things ...) > Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 8-bit > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected > > We also have R4400 and R5000 machines in the department. > If you could add me to any relevant mailing list then > I would be very grateful. I subscribed you. Ralf From ralf@Julia.DE Tue Jul 23 16:04:24 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00950 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:04:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03951; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:04:26 +0200 (MET) Received: from bryant.intern.julia.de (ralf@bryant.intern.julia.de [194.221.49.34]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16929; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:03:34 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by bryant.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22659; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:07:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199607231407.QAA22659@bryant.intern.julia.de> Subject: Re: MIPS RC2030??? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:07:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: alp@gambit.msk.su In-Reply-To: <31F4D418.6C81@gambit.msk.su> from "Alexey Panteleev" at Jul 23, 96 05:31:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 435 Lines: 12 Hi, > i've got some old MIPS RC2030 box running MIPS RISC/OS, i'd really like > to install some newer unix-like system on this dusty thing. can you > advise me anything? Well, the old Mips, Inc. machines are on the list of potential Linux/MIPS targets. Unfortunately so far noone have done anything on this, so these machines are yet unsupported (the RC4030 aka Magnum is supported). Maybe you want to try yourself on this? Ralf From dm@neteng.engr.sgi.com Wed Jul 24 04:59:49 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA06040 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:59:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sgigate.SGI.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22907; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:59:54 +0200 (MET) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406a.SGI) id TAA16511; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:59:54 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com (neteng.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA04517; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:59:53 -0700 Received: (from dm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA10721; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:59:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:59:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199607240259.TAA10721@neteng.engr.sgi.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, angus@aero.gla.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <199607231401.QAA22629@bryant.intern.julia.de> (message from Ralf Baechle on Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:01:33 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: Linux info Reply-To: dm@sgi.com Content-Length: 1678 Lines: 40 From: Ralf Baechle Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:01:33 +0200 (MET DST) > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 132 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Main memory size: 64 Mbytes > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D WD33C93? Didn't know that anything else but Amigas uses these chips. Dunno if David has added support for this chip but this will be easy, if not because it's already supported for Linux/68k. You should see the look on the IRIX kernel engineer's faces when I told them this was the SCSI chipset used by AMIGA's ;-) Of course there is a driver already ;-) Otherwise I think with this machine you're in the Linux race. (David, correct me if I tell wrong things ...) THe 8-bit video he has in the only issue. I have only written a driver for the 24-bit INDY video card which is what is in my test box right now. I'll get a hold of an 8-bit card and fix this particular problem. Perhaps around mid-august something people can play around with on INDY's will be available. ----------------------------------------------//// Yow! 233 microsecond remote host TCP latency ---- beat that --------------------------------------------////__________ o __ , . , David S. Miller, dm@engr.sgi.com /_____________/ / / / /_/ >< From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Tue Jul 30 12:02:46 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04148 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:02:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23036; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:02:33 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA28767 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:04:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id MAA27965 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:05:40 +0200 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA28710; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 13:02:20 +0300 Received: from amitpc ([127.0.0.1]) by amitpc.iso.dec.com with smtp (ident amitm using rfc1413) id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.37); Tue, 30 Jul 96 13:01 IDT Sender: amitm@tavosf.iso.dec.com Message-Id: <31FDDD5D.65A9ECBD@amitpc.iso.dec.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 13:01:01 +0300 From: Amit Margalit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Hello, I want in! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1013 Lines: 27 Hello! I work for DEC, and have at hand at least 2 machines that might be worth examining, both might become available for me to do tests on. I am working on getting another disk, so I can install Linux/MIPS on them. The machines are: DECstation 5000/133 DECstation 3100 I have a 24-Bit screen card on the 5000, and would like to know if there is any chance of running Ultrix native binaries in Linux/MIPS as they do for Linux/Alpha and Digital Unix binaries. Also, I'd love to help. If you have ideas about things you want to know about the above systems, let me know. I cannot promise anything but I sure will try to help with information. Amit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From ralf@Julia.DE Tue Jul 30 18:07:10 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04827 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 18:07:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03852; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:54:40 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11123; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:56:29 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00179; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:56:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199607301556.RAA00179@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:56:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com In-Reply-To: <31FDDD5D.65A9ECBD@amitpc.iso.dec.com> from "Amit Margalit" at Jul 30, 96 01:01:01 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1296 Lines: 35 Hi, > I work for DEC, and have at hand at least 2 machines that might be > worth examining, both might become available for me to do tests on. > I am working on getting another disk, so I can install Linux/MIPS > on them. > > The machines are: > > DECstation 5000/133 > DECstation 3100 > > I have a 24-Bit screen card on the 5000, and would like to know if > there is any chance of running Ultrix native binaries in Linux/MIPS > as they do for Linux/Alpha and Digital Unix binaries. So far noone has worked on Ultrix compatibility. The SGI port features IRIX compatibility. As the DEC port has reached the state of basic useability binary compatibility is definately on the to-do list, but noone has worked on it yet. > Also, I'd love to help. If you have ideas about things you want to > know about the above systems, let me know. I cannot promise anything > but I sure will try to help with information. This offer is _very_ welcome. The lack of complete documentation for the is probably the thing that so far has slowed down the port to the MIPS based DECstations most. I've not worked directly for DEC targets; probaly Paul Antoine will probably tell what is missing. Ralf -- A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage of all the features - manpage of amd(8). From ralf@Julia.DE Wed Jul 31 00:32:41 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05617 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:32:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA12902; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:32:27 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24478 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:34:32 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA00671 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:34:49 +0200 Message-Id: <199607302234.AAA00671@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Another binutils release To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:34:47 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1555 Lines: 36 Hi all, I used my absence from the console to rebuild all the binutils packages with shared libopcode and libbfd. This has shrinked each of the packages for Linux/i486 by over 600KB. The new binutils also have an additional new subop for the .set pseudo instruction: .set push pushed the current settings than can be changed by the .set operators on a stack and .set pop pops them again from this stack. The stack is only limited by the size of the main memory. This feature is especially usefull for macros where it can avoid a class of bugs that is difficult to track down. Simply wrap the entire macro in .set push ... .set pop - that's all! I've also uploaded a new patch for those that want to roll their own binaries. Thistime I don't upload Sparc binaries. I'll do this when I'm again at the university, but that will probably take some weeks. As usual binary packages for other crosscompiling hosts are welcome! Ralf b8d234043ef42e59d01fd7b8e6996929 ./crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linux/binutils-2.7-2.tar.gz 332ccfa19586de2a100bf65ebb68a514 ./crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linuxelf/binutils-2.7-2.tar.gz 8e4552eeafe0e61b4ca1f7f9171d5a1a ./crossdev/i486-linux/mipsel-linuxelf/binutils-2.7-2.tar.gz f98c31126bc1669191db8fcc0a650dc7 ./crossdev/i486-linux/mipsel-linux/binutils-2.7-2.tar.gz db24a46295d7b545cf71bc9e2a60f815 ./crossdev/i486-linux/CONTENTS bd4a7de879b52e7ce444d20b07670c57 ./crossdev/src/binutils-2.7-2.diffs.gz -- A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage of all the features - manpage of amd(8). From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Wed Jul 31 03:58:41 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07469 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 03:58:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17848; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 03:58:22 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id BAA20392; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 01:58:17 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA29423; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 11:58:14 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199607310158.AA29423@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 11:58:13 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199607301556.RAA00179@kernel.panic.julia.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Jul 30, 96 05:56:44 pm Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2873 Lines: 68 Hi folks, Amit (sp?) wrote: > > I work for DEC, and have at hand at least 2 machines that might be > > worth examining, both might become available for me to do tests on. > > I am working on getting another disk, so I can install Linux/MIPS > > on them. > > > > The machines are: > > > > DECstation 5000/133 > > DECstation 3100 > > > > I have a 24-Bit screen card on the 5000, and would like to know if > > there is any chance of running Ultrix native binaries in Linux/MIPS > > as they do for Linux/Alpha and Digital Unix binaries. > > So far noone has worked on Ultrix compatibility. The SGI port features > IRIX compatibility. As the DEC port has reached the state of basic > useability binary compatibility is definately on the to-do list, but > noone has worked on it yet. This is true - though somewhat down the to-do list as most people with DECstations are more interested in throwing out anything to do with Ultrix at this point :-) > > Also, I'd love to help. If you have ideas about things you want to > > know about the above systems, let me know. I cannot promise anything > > but I sure will try to help with information. > > This offer is _very_ welcome. The lack of complete documentation for the > is probably the thing that so far has slowed down the port to the MIPS > based DECstations most. I've not worked directly for DEC targets; probaly > Paul Antoine will probably tell what is missing. What's missing are the full Functional Specifications for the 5000 series, particularly the 5000/[23][035] and the 5000/1xx models. There are internal DEC documents which John 'maddog' Hall is trying to get cleaned up for general publication. John's been a bit busy recently (as have I), so things are moving forward more slowly than we'd like. As for the general Status of the DEC Port (tm): I've begun integrating the DECstation code into 2.0.x, though I'm worried that I should be waiting for the work done by David Miller to be integrated before doing much more work on the DEC portion, as he appears to have done some fantastic stuff on R3000 code. I also want to make sure that anything Didier has done on R3000-specific code is included as well, so that the DEC port can take full advantage of it. Anyway, once I have 2.0.x booting to where the current 1.3.68 code does, Ralf and I will need to co-ordinate things! Regards, Paul (P.S. Please note the new phone and fax numbers below.) _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From amitm@amitpc.iso.dec.com Wed Jul 31 06:51:52 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07821 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:51:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from server21.digital.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26784; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:51:37 +0200 (MET) Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id GAA11768 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:53:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tavosf.iso.dec.com (tavosf.iso.dec.com [16.190.64.193]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id GAA29216 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:54:57 +0200 Received: from amitpc.iso.dec.com by tavosf.iso.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0345PM) id AA18175; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 07:51:44 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 07:50:16 +0300 (IDT) From: Amit Margalit To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! In-Reply-To: <199607310158.AA29423@suite.sw.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1537 Lines: 39 Hi! On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Paul Antoine wrote: > Amit (sp?) wrote: What's the (sp?) thing? I didn't get it. > What's missing are the full Functional Specifications for the 5000 > series, particularly the 5000/[23][035] and the 5000/1xx models. > > There are internal DEC documents which John 'maddog' Hall is trying to > get cleaned up for general publication. John's been a bit busy > recently (as have I), so things are moving forward more slowly than > we'd like. > > As for the general Status of the DEC Port (tm): I've begun integrating > the DECstation code into 2.0.x, though I'm worried that I should be > waiting for the work done by David Miller to be integrated before > doing much more work on the DEC portion, as he appears to have done > some fantastic stuff on R3000 code. > > I also want to make sure that anything Didier has done on > R3000-specific code is included as well, so that the DEC port can take > full advantage of it. > > Anyway, once I have 2.0.x booting to where the current 1.3.68 code > does, Ralf and I will need to co-ordinate things! Is there anything on gatekeeper.dec.com:/pub/DEC which you or others haven't checked out yet? Amit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amit Margalit (Software Support Digital Israel) amitm@doronx.iso.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All information in the above mail message is personal, and does not imply on my employer. None of it should be attributed to my employer. From paul@suite.sw.oz.au Wed Jul 31 12:24:31 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00490 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:24:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from staff.cs.su.OZ.AU by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06566; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:24:12 +0200 (MET) Received: from suite.sw.oz.au by swallow.sw.oz.au with SMTP id KAA01864; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:24:06 GMT (8.6.10/Unixware) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for ) Received: by suite.sw.oz.au id AA08477; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:24:03 +1000 (5.65c/1.34) (from paul@suite.sw.oz.au for linux-mips@fnet.fr) From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199607311024.AA08477@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:24:03 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Amit Margalit" at Jul 31, 96 07:50:16 am Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1572 Lines: 41 Hi, Amit wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Paul Antoine wrote: > > > Amit (sp?) wrote: > > What's the (sp?) thing? I didn't get it. I wasn't sure of the spelling! An old English teacher's trick is to write SP! in the margin when you get spelling wrong :-) > Is there anything on gatekeeper.dec.com:/pub/DEC which you or others > haven't checked out yet? I have both the 3100/2100 and 5000/2x0 documents from there which have been quite useful, however the other 5000 documents have apparently never been made public by DEC's workstation group. The reason for this is that they contain the usual "for internal engineer's eyes only" kind of comments in them :-) They were released to certain individuals in the NetBSD port under non- disclosure agreements, however John and I are trying to get DEC snr management in Nashua to get them 'cleaned up' and do a public release so as many people as need them can work on the port. I don't know if you know of John (affectionately known as maddog :-), but he's one of DEC's internal gurus, and appears to have the ear of the abovementioned senior management. Regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 9698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 9699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. From ralf@Julia.DE Wed Jul 31 15:14:41 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00828 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:14:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alles.intern.julia.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11807; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:14:23 +0200 (MET) Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16694 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:16:19 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01170 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:16:40 +0200 Message-Id: <199607311316.PAA01170@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:16:39 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607310158.AA29423@suite.sw.oz.au> from "Paul Antoine" at Jul 31, 96 11:58:13 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1497 Lines: 41 Hi, > As for the general Status of the DEC Port (tm): I've begun integrating > the DECstation code into 2.0.x, though I'm worried that I should be > waiting for the work done by David Miller to be integrated before > doing much more work on the DEC portion, as he appears to have done > some fantastic stuff on R3000 code. Dave has a R4k system ... > I also want to make sure that anything Didier has done on > R3000-specific code is included as well, so that the DEC port can take > full advantage of it. I've integrated about the half of Didier's patches into my source tree. The rest - and this probably the more interesting part - would have broken the rest of the code. I guess Didier will rework the rest of the patches and will send them to to me again. The other major change for the next patch is that Thomas sent me patches that bring the Sonic close to working. There is some magic bug in the code that prevents his driver to work for newer kernels than 1.3.98 but we'll get that one also ... The problem seems somehow to be conected with the virtual DMA hardware in the Jazz boxes. > Anyway, once I have 2.0.x booting to where the current 1.3.68 code > does, Ralf and I will need to co-ordinate things! Fine ... > Regards, > Paul > (P.S. Please note the new phone and fax numbers below.) (Why phone & fax? We could much better meet in Bruxelles for a beer ;-) Ralf -- A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage of all the features - manpage of amd(8). From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Wed Jul 31 16:58:02 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01032 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:58:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15349; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:57:52 +0200 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by louis-blanc.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/96.04.09/louis-blanc); id QAA26419; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:58:02 +0200 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id QAA15534; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:57:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199607311457.QAA15534@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:16:39 +0200." <199607311316.PAA01170@kernel.panic.julia.de> X-It: bandsept (wrong OS, but right CPU) X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:57:15 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 282 Lines: 9 Hi all, >that one also ... The problem seems somehow to be conected with the virtual >DMA hardware in the Jazz boxes. It's this stuff that puzzles me in my attempt to adapt DM's sparc esp driver for the Magnum :( But honestly I haven't touched it for a month :( Cheers, Stoned. From hub-fue!bigbug.franken.de!tsbogend@rachael.franken.de Wed Jul 31 23:26:24 1996 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00820 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:26:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from rachael.franken.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23411; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:26:11 +0200 (MET) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ulima-000oIIC; Wed, 31 Jul 96 23:26 MET DST Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0ulimR-0005nmC; Wed, 31 Jul 96 23:26 MET DST Received: by bigbug.franken.de (8.6.12/tbs) id XAA00901 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:08:58 +0200 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer Message-Id: <199607312108.XAA00901@bigbug.franken.de> Subject: Re: Hello, I want in! To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:08:57 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199607311457.QAA15534@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Jul 31, 96 04:57:15 pm Reply-To: tsbogend@bigbug.franken.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 591 Lines: 14 > It's this stuff that puzzles me in my attempt to adapt DM's sparc esp > driver for the Magnum :( But honestly I haven't touched it for a month :( maybe we should coordinate our affords a little bit. I started sorting out the Sparc bits from the esp driver to put in some Mips bits:-) Hopefully I will get something working util I do my 4 week trip to California starting late september. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>]