From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Oct 3 17:38:55 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02544 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:38:54 +0100 Received: from rio.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01697; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:39:04 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de (Ralf Baechle) Message-Id: <199510020325.EAA12803@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: by rio.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.11/GEN-1.0.8) id EAA12803; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 04:25:43 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.2 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 04:25:41 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 728 Lines: 24 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I'm going to upload kernel patch linux-1.3.1-1.3.2.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Thistimes I revamped asm-mips/termios.h to be more ABI conform. As before the same non-guarantee applies. If someone of you with access to ABI docs wants to make me a favour - could you please doublecheck the definitions in asm-mips/termios.h? Ralf 36c7eec74d87cf44d623f16e83116afa linux-1.3.1-1.3.2.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMG9bskckbl6vezDBAQHpzAP+K34bAsgi5RHP4HI3QcLcqK5kbrix2pQP bKKbbNACDr+pP0MghradhftDFnZWIx9wqpFznkw3FhQxtnTMj/nJn8lvSyVu9L6+ p4hgwKRuTs4FNlydC9HWeujdhoFqji2em8xg31YeLXokYi6UV0/33DbZ4w0e7BUB gZXjWvBLicE= =Phtt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Oct 3 17:38:39 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02519 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:38:38 +0100 Received: from rio.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01684; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:38:53 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de (Ralf Baechle) Message-Id: <199510020438.FAA14104@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: by rio.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.11/GEN-1.0.8) id FAA14104; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 05:38:50 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.3 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 05:38:48 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 478 Lines: 21 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.2-1.3.3.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Have fun, Ralf 6022874632f82e4f98143a9de1eb60cf linux-1.3.2-1.3.3.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMG9s1Uckbl6vezDBAQHPQAP/ezH0d4zB73usXfUJ7iqioQx7CMm7z5Qu mKCTMQFgf3VjLfnL5/UqhoxRlLk39H8uELQ5bGraSqpZrJJDQdmBZUVCpe/r+uF+ XkqGHNureWxCsXH+gBI8VHhtvdHTPf0zh0m7NM2jm8b/u8fydTWZHPYuxmQfFdVE QqWKrmoEGRA= =Drzl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Oct 3 17:37:07 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02492 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:37:07 +0100 Received: from rio.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01660; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:37:21 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de (Ralf Baechle) Message-Id: <199510020725.IAA15841@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: by rio.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.11/GEN-1.0.8) id IAA15841; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:25:26 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.4 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:25:25 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 619 Lines: 23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, yet another kernel patch (now also available by parachute drop service - mail parachute@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de for conditions). I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.3-1.3.4.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr as usual. Happy patching, Ralf 88f494920e07386fbe2659fcd1192eb4 linux-1.3.3-1.3.4.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMG+T4kckbl6vezDBAQFVhgQAqmSThrfcG/RW8JlJaylpqaRwarHpdzPJ ed+1Pf6P3tONH+5SxZ5+78uQHLSBKzmX6OGe3VFfklXiPg4KtsfyNHvM5IBjKSlr /JDFN5NRBFhqpZqHYAfCBpXmfqaN3iZnkBmNp5im4ymFrEso+kbTJ/4DhrpIUscd 1ya5st9xnbI= =mYlb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Oct 3 17:36:58 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02460 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:36:58 +0100 Received: from rio.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01656; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:37:14 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de (Ralf Baechle) Message-Id: <199510031517.QAA18645@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: by rio.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.11/GEN-1.0.8) id QAA18645; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:17:24 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.5 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:17:22 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 503 Lines: 20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, as the Descates said - patchtio ergo sum ;) I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.4-1.3.5.diffs.gz to fnet.fr. Ralf caa3e35a88ab320031d4760de45a1ebb linux-1.3.4-1.3.5.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHFUAEckbl6vezDBAQFh6wP/bX9Uuy2TCDNXFLCoDeMuaXLnWqfNhgP2 C3KXZbGwiFwDSxeZ5/47FiRtpwJqTg7CArzVAVSgWZ8IZKCNgHJqhyjHGtdrpyMJ 82HQPWdk3ekAlrBY7om5hifbXeQfv+pyOXKzgPFd9IF4/NAQEgUofKIxVnxg/WwC GdBVfJaxjGw= =/3vW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Tue Oct 3 17:36:52 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02446 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:36:51 +0100 Received: from rio.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01643; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:36:34 +0100 (MET) From: ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de (Ralf Baechle) Message-Id: <199510031625.RAA18703@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: by rio.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.11/GEN-1.0.8) id RAA18703; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:25:12 +0100 Subject: My last uploads To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:25:11 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 169 Lines: 7 Hi all, I sent my last few announcments before I could upload my patches to ftp.fnet.fr. Even worse - fnet is currently unreachable. So please be patient ... Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Tue Oct 3 19:39:20 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA03862 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:39:19 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04301; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:39:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from goethe (linux@goethe.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.30]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA29024 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:43:42 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510031843.TAA29024@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by goethe (4.1/KO-2.0) id AA22967; Tue, 3 Oct 95 19:39:08 +0100 Subject: Re: My last uploads To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:39:07 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510031625.RAA18703@rio.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Oct 3, 95 05:25:11 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 274 Lines: 10 > Hi all, > > I sent my last few announcments before I could upload my patches > to ftp.fnet.fr. Even worse - fnet is currently unreachable. So > please be patient ... OK, files are now uploaded. Stoned, Luc - could one of you please move them online? Thanks! Ralf From marksd@rl.af.mil Wed Oct 4 12:45:03 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA15724 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:45:03 +0100 Received: from MAILBOX.ADM.RL.AF.MIL by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21312; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:45:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from [128.132.162.25] (Urtz.c3macs.RL.AF.MIL [128.132.162.25]) by mailbox.adm.rl.af.mil (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA17580 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 07:45:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 07:51:04 -0400 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr From: marksd@rl.af.mil (Dave Marks) Subject: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) Content-Length: 1073 Lines: 25 At 8:30 AM 1/1/70, Matt Messier wrote: * Does anybody out there with a DEC 3100 or 5000 have the ability to test * this stuff? It is a little bit difficult for me at the moment because I Matt, was anyone able to support your testing needs? If not, I've got a DEC-3100 with an external IMPRIS 1GB drive and Ethernet. It's got Ultrix 4.2 on it, but it's not really in use, nor does it have a specific use for the future (other than possibly as an X-Terminal). I also have another DEC-3100 in regular use, on the same Ethernet, that has 2x2GB Disks, a 250MB disk (with ultrix 4.2) and a TK-50 Tape drive. I have some smaller SCSI disks (40-120MB) which I could use as beat-me-up disks to install test stuff on. How much space is really needed? I would like to avoid swapping disks also, but the problem (still) is how to get the test stuff onto the test drive without mounting the drive on another system, or booting from a working boot drive on the same system? Enough babbling... What can I do for you with my stuff? Dave Marks Rome Laboratory marksd@rl.af.mil From marius@prilnari.com Wed Oct 4 16:08:47 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17868 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:08:47 +0100 Received: from yakko.prilnari.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25125; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:08:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marius@localhost) by yakko.prilnari.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA23407; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:08:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:08:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messier To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1357 Lines: 35 On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Dave Marks wrote: > At 8:30 AM 1/1/70, Matt Messier wrote: > > * Does anybody out there with a DEC 3100 or 5000 have the ability to test > * this stuff? It is a little bit difficult for me at the moment because I > > Matt, was anyone able to support your testing needs? I broke down and tested the code myself. Some of it works. Some of it doesn't. :-) The code that appears to work is my PC based mkboot program to stuff the boot loader image onto the device. My boot loader doesn't work, but that appears to be a cross-compiler issue (i.e., compiler producing bad code in some form or another, but linking alright -- at least the ECOFF header is valid). I'm not very well versed on cross compiling or the MIPS instruction set at all. I honestly don't have any way of verifying that the compiled C code is valid. Anybody have any suggestions here? I've relocated the text segment to 0x80060000. It dies at PC=0x80060014. Matt Messier The Prilnari Project Lincoln, RI, USA -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzBwMjQAAAEEANew4WZF0bDnxtsqDVruZoF7vsh/ALn6XHAG6E+vjqy1RgM/ 76WnuzZpwdohYWZ2iM4ED9PvQfnvCxa/YK+XaQNDqCmFnVh8dDEgCqkPxOkT6W92 hK/j6esZ0SG1snEZ3gNBgSE1N0uciHRNlCOPfwPNmyGcWZCJVFXq3rp/YeS9AAUT tChNYXR0aGV3IEQuIE1lc3NpZXIgPG1hcml1c0BwcmlsbmFyaS5jb20+ =537/ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 4 16:13:19 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17946 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:13:18 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25287; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:13:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA19342 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:12:28 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA28140; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:12:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:12:56 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510041512.QAA28140@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 527 Lines: 16 > > I've relocated the text segment to 0x80060000. It dies at PC=0x80060014. > Try 0xa0060000. With this address you will at least avoid any cache trouble, and that's often the reason for strange behaviour. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From marksd@rl.af.mil Wed Oct 4 16:56:37 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA18398 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:56:37 +0100 Received: from MAILBOX.ADM.RL.AF.MIL by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26375; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:56:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from [128.132.162.25] (Urtz.c3macs.RL.AF.MIL [128.132.162.25]) by mailbox.adm.rl.af.mil (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA25006 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:58:19 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:03:08 -0400 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr From: marksd@rl.af.mil (Dave Marks) Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) Content-Length: 1228 Lines: 25 At 11:08 AM 10/4/95, Matt Messier wrote: * I'm not very well versed on cross compiling or the MIPS instruction set at * all. I honestly don't have any way of verifying that the compiled C code is * valid. Anybody have any suggestions here? Well, as I described earlier, I have a working DECstation 3100, as well as one for testing stuff. I forgot to mention that I also have gcc-2.7.0 installed and working on it. If you give me the source code, I can do a "native" compile of the code. Ugh - does that also mean that I'd need to install some linux .h and .a files? Regarding cross-compiling in general, I had some rather outstanding luck in compiling hello.c with gcc-2.7.0 on my DEC3100 compiled for a (compiler-less) Sparc-10 running Solaris 2.3. I ftp'd the .S assembly files to the Sparc-10, assembled and linked them under solaris, and the damn thing worked (it core dumped the first time, but I linked in a couple of required .o files and shazam...)! The instructions for cross compiling that came with gcc-2.7.0 were pretty good. The whole point became moot though, once I found where to get a gcc binary image for Solaris2.3, and then boot-strapped gcc-2.7.0. Dave Marks Rome Laboratory marksd@rl.af.mil From imp@rover.village.org Wed Oct 4 17:13:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18599 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:13:34 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26784; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:13:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA02954 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:13:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199510041613.KAA02954@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 04 Oct 1995 12:03:08 EDT Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 10:13:38 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 1728 Lines: 35 : Regarding cross-compiling in general, I had some rather outstanding luck in : compiling hello.c with gcc-2.7.0 on my DEC3100 compiled for a : (compiler-less) Sparc-10 running Solaris 2.3. I ftp'd the .S assembly : files to the Sparc-10, assembled and linked them under solaris, and the : damn thing worked (it core dumped the first time, but I linked in a couple : of required .o files and shazam...)! The instructions for cross compiling : that came with gcc-2.7.0 were pretty good. The whole point became moot : though, once I found where to get a gcc binary image for Solaris2.3, and : then boot-strapped gcc-2.7.0. One thing in the cross compiling instructions that either was missing, or that you might not have followed was the need to create the as, ld, et al programs from the binutils distribution targeted at the host platform. Once you do that, cross compiling becomes *MUCH* easier. I've sent this out a couple of times, but to create a cross compiler (following the gnu rules), you basically need to do the following: 1) grab binutils. configure --target cpu-system_mfg-os. make then make install. May need --root or something like that if you don't control /usr/local 2) Grab the includes and libs from the target machine, place them in /usr/local/cpu-system_mfg-os/{lib,include}. 3) grab gcc. configure --target cpu-system_mfg-os. make then make install. To build programs for the target, then add -b cpu-system_mfg-os to your compilation line. With this method, you can have multiple cross compilers on one system. This differs slightly from the cross compilers that the MIPS Linux folks have produced, but it is close enough should you need to do this in the future. Warner From kah@terma.dk Wed Oct 4 18:32:13 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19477 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:32:12 +0100 Received: from ns.dknet.dk by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28501; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:32:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from terma by ns.dknet.dk with UUCP id AA17076 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for linux-mips@fnet.fr); Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:32:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199510041732.AA17076@ns.dknet.dk> Received: from lulu.terma.dk (lulu) by vera.terma.dk; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:30:44 +0200 Received: by lulu.terma.dk (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA11726; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:16:47 +0100 From: Kai Harrekilde-Petersen Subject: disasm bugfix To: linux-mips@fnet.fr (Linux/MIPS mailing list) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 95 17:16:47 MET Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Content-Length: 2885 Lines: 82 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi gang, Hmm. Those switch()es are dangerous; this is at least the third time I've caught myself in forgetting the `break' at the end of a case in disasm. Enough babbling. After the .sig a diff from disasm-0.34a to 0.35 is appended. I've also corrected some of the messages. Luc, could you drop a copy of this in the private/disasm directory, please. Cheers, Kai - -- Kai Harrekilde-Petersen Linux: The choice of a GNU generation Terma Elektronik, Surveillance Systems Division #include PGP Key fingerprint = 9A 70 8A FF A3 31 3E DC FB 9C A2 50 D7 FC 4F C8 - --- disasm-0.34a.c Mon Sep 4 16:27:07 1995 +++ disasm.c Wed Oct 4 18:29:18 1995 @@ -2,8 +2,8 @@ * Copyright (C) 1995 TERMA Elektronik A/S, Lystrup, Denmark * Written by Kai Harrekilde-Petersen * - - * Version: 0.34a - - * Date: 4. September 1995 + * Version: 0.35 + * Date: 4. October 1995 * * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ #include #include - -#define VERSION "0.34a" +#define VERSION "0.35" /* instruction classes */ #define TYPE_NONE -1 /* opcode is invalid */ @@ -613,6 +613,7 @@ regis[r1],target); return; } + break; case TYPE_CP: if(COPzrs_list[r1].type == TYPE_CP && FIELD(insn,26,2) == 0 && (r1 == 0x02 || r1 == 0x06)) { @@ -785,7 +786,7 @@ case 'h': printf("%s: [-hprvV] [-a ] \n" "-h:\tshow this help\n" - - "-p:\temit Algorithmics style regs ('$rx' vs 'rx')\n" + "-p:\tdo not emit Algorithmics style regs ('rx' instead of '$rx')\n" "-r:\treverse the endianness\n" "-v:\tshow version number\n" "-V:\tshow copying information\n",binname); @@ -802,9 +803,10 @@ printf("%s: MIPS R4x00 disassembler, version " VERSION " by Kai Harrekilde-Petersen.\n" "Copyright (C) 1995 TERMA Elektronik A/S\n" - - "This is free software; see the source for copying " - - "conditions.\nThere is NO warranty; not even for " - - "MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A\nPARTICULAR PURPOSE.\n", + "This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.\n" + "The program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,\n" + "but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of\n" + "MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.\n", binname); exit(0); break; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAgUBMHKzVffpFDG15Qu5AQFVAQP/YaPGdWiVK2uegOqR6nYdHf0AAaHay59X kMKu0fUV+1YYc6s8JiQf67pzWKzP8D+IryiaflZxbai7iVrYA7T/4bPqIHW5/g1e 2kx/axol6R15lbKKSA7S+y9rjktrE7IT+e2EKfpmNbVtCA2rqrvMhuQP8y8yhWQu R9hdIVmZh60= =qFRG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From beurton@fnet.fr Wed Oct 4 17:56:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA19068 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:56:16 +0100 Received: from nil.fnet.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27732; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:56:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (from beurton@localhost) by nil.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA14209; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:56:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:56:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199510041656.RAA14209@nil.fnet.fr> From: Luc Beurton To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Ralf's patches X-Mailer: GNU Emacs [19.29] Mail Mode X-Attribution: lb Reply-To: Luc.Beurton@fnet.fr Content-Length: 127 Lines: 7 Hi all, all the patches of the kernel 1.3 are now on ftp.fnet.fr in the directory /linux-mips/src/kernel/v1.3 . Cheers Luc. From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 4 18:56:45 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19766 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:56:44 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29008; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:56:56 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041749.SAA29774@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id SAA29774; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:49:13 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.6 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:49:12 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4682 Lines: 58 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi again, I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.5-1.3.6.diffs.gz U ¨[¼0€€R= C¨èèØÈ   5ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ Oct 1995 19:07:06 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041806.TAA30095@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id TAA30095; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:58 +0100 Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:57 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510041613.KAA02954@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 4, 95 10:13:38 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1954 Hi, > I've sent this out a couple of times, but to create a cross compiler > (following the gnu rules), you basically need to do the following: > > 1) grab binutils. configure --target cpu-system_mfg-os. make > then make install. May need --root or something like that > if you don't control /usr/local > 2) Grab the includes and libs from the target machine, place > them in /usr/local/cpu-system_mfg-os/{lib,include}. > 3) grab gcc. configure --target cpu-system_mfg-os. make then > make install. > > To build programs for the target, then add -b cpu-system_mfg-os to > your compilation line. With this method, you can have multiple cross > compilers on one system. > > This differs slightly from the cross compilers that the MIPS Linux > folks have produced, but it is close enough should you need to do this > in the future. That what the GNU people wish how their stuffs should build. They however ignore that building a complete crossdevelopment environment only from source makes some extra troubles. For example to build a complete GCC you need to have an installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you ... Damnit ... I think I just got caught in a recursion ;-) Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 4 18:56:58 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19793 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:56:57 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29015; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:57:11 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041750.SAA29808@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id SAA29808; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:50:37 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.7 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:50:36 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 486 Lines: 21 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi again, I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.6-1.3.7.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Happy patching, Ralf 8d48105024405ee9fa6abbbf88c52547 linux-1.3.6-1.3.7.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHISa0ckbl6vezDBAQGFNQP+Ir/NK8DsfHKutrns5tSMYeKHP/3j5OUZ uWRNi0dqy5muYj3TOgR16U5exp2re//uSQjKKyAVd+0hqb0YyNTeX5UY4vkt2p9I 3DP1iAkt9ZZQw6WhBqkqdg+RgJ+zuXjTUFml5RG0U/cc7C7HgKYZ+w3u36kPix6i 5hzDXGlZsVQ= =+844 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 4 18:56:30 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19745 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:56:30 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29003; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:56:37 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041753.SAA29866@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id SAA29866; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:53:24 +0100 Subject: Re: Ralf's patches To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:53:24 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510041656.RAA14209@nil.fnet.fr> from "Luc Beurton" at Oct 4, 95 05:56:44 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 218 Lines: 11 Hi Luc, > all the patches of the kernel 1.3 are now on ftp.fnet.fr > in the directory /linux-mips/src/kernel/v1.3 . It's a please to bug you ;-) Could you please move the two new patches online? Thanks, Ralf From imp@rover.village.org Wed Oct 4 19:18:50 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA20095 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:18:49 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29545; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:19:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA03551 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:03:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199510041803.MAA03551@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux 1.3.7 In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 04 Oct 1995 18:50:36 BST Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 12:03:06 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 187 Lines: 8 : I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.6-1.3.7.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Go Ralf Go! BTW, what plans are there, if any, to merge the diffs back into the linux tree that Linus distributes? Warner From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 4 19:07:01 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA19942 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:07:00 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29222; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:07:06 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041806.TAA30095@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id TAA30095; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:58 +0100 Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:57 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510041613.KAA02954@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 4, 95 10:13:38 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1954 Lines: 38 Hi, > I've sent this out a couple of times, but to create a cross compiler > (following the gnu rules), you basically need to do the following: > > 1) grab binutils. configure --target cpu-system_mfg-os. make > then make install. May need --root or something like that > if you don't control /usr/local > 2) Grab the includes and libs from the target machine, place > them in /usr/local/cpu-system_mfg-os/{lib,include}. > 3) grab gcc. configure --target cpu-system_mfg-os. make then > make install. > > To build programs for the target, then add -b cpu-system_mfg-os to > your compilation line. With this method, you can have multiple cross > compilers on one system. > > This differs slightly from the cross compilers that the MIPS Linux > folks have produced, but it is close enough should you need to do this > in the future. That what the GNU people wish how their stuffs should build. They however ignore that building a complete crossdevelopment environment only from source makes some extra troubles. For example to build a complete GCC you need to have an installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you need to have installed standard library (accutally just crt0.o for a.out). To build the standard libraries you need to have an installed compiler for which you ... Damnit ... I think I just got caught in a recursion ;-) Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 4 19:12:04 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA20020 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:12:03 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29415; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:12:20 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041811.TAA30186@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id TAA30186; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:11:58 +0100 Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:11:57 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Matt Messier" at Oct 4, 95 11:08:29 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1205 Lines: 30 Hi Matt, > On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Dave Marks wrote: > > > At 8:30 AM 1/1/70, Matt Messier wrote: > > > > * Does anybody out there with a DEC 3100 or 5000 have the ability to test > > * this stuff? It is a little bit difficult for me at the moment because I > > > > Matt, was anyone able to support your testing needs? > > I broke down and tested the code myself. Some of it works. Some of it > doesn't. :-) The code that appears to work is my PC based mkboot program to > stuff the boot loader image onto the device. My boot loader doesn't work, > but that appears to be a cross-compiler issue (i.e., compiler producing bad > code in some form or another, but linking alright -- at least the ECOFF header > is valid). > > I'm not very well versed on cross compiling or the MIPS instruction set at > all. I honestly don't have any way of verifying that the compiled C code is > valid. Anybody have any suggestions here? > > I've relocated the text segment to 0x80060000. It dies at PC=0x80060014. As Andy had already said this might be a cache problem.. I suggest to post the command sequence you used to build your executable. This might already show the source of the trouble. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 4 19:34:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA20282 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:34:35 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29893; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:34:51 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510041834.TAA30527@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id TAA30527; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:34:45 +0100 Subject: Re: Linux 1.3.7 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:34:44 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510041803.MAA03551@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 4, 95 12:03:06 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 852 Lines: 23 Hi, > : I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.6-1.3.7.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. > > Go Ralf Go! I've got another patch that should be ready when I come home :-> > BTW, what plans are there, if any, to merge the diffs back into the > linux tree that Linus distributes? At first and most important I'll have to reach the same patchlevel as Linus. This is what I'm currently busy doing. In the next step I want to send a little patch (just a few hndred kilobytes ...) to Linus for inclusion. This will close the gap between the mainstream distribution and make our live easier as some parts of the code will more or less be automaintained. It will also show the people that Linus/MIPS is alive. I'm trying to do all this as fast as possible as you can see. That also means that I don't care too much about things like debugging ... Happy patching, Ralf From marius@prilnari.com Thu Oct 5 00:06:23 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA23089 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:06:21 +0100 Received: from yakko.prilnari.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04560; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:06:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marius@localhost) by yakko.prilnari.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA23938; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messier To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) In-Reply-To: <199510041512.QAA28140@newton.soft-n-hard.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 956 Lines: 27 On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Andreas Busse wrote: > > > > I've relocated the text segment to 0x80060000. It dies at PC=0x80060014. > > > > Try 0xa0060000. With this address you will at least avoid any > cache trouble, and that's often the reason for strange behaviour. The reason why I picked 0x80060000 is because that is where the Ultrix bootloader stuffs itself. Its a small chunk of code, and then loads the kernel itself at 0x80030000. This is Buglix that I am speaking of. It wouldn't hurt to throw it at 0xa0060000 however to see what happens :-) Matt Messier The Prilnari Project Lincoln, RI, USA -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzBwMjQAAAEEANew4WZF0bDnxtsqDVruZoF7vsh/ALn6XHAG6E+vjqy1RgM/ 76WnuzZpwdohYWZ2iM4ED9PvQfnvCxa/YK+XaQNDqCmFnVh8dDEgCqkPxOkT6W92 hK/j6esZ0SG1snEZ3gNBgSE1N0uciHRNlCOPfwPNmyGcWZCJVFXq3rp/YeS9AAUT tChNYXR0aGV3IEQuIE1lc3NpZXIgPG1hcml1c0BwcmlsbmFyaS5jb20+ =537/ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From marius@prilnari.com Thu Oct 5 00:12:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA23175 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:12:33 +0100 Received: from yakko.prilnari.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05030; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:12:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marius@localhost) by yakko.prilnari.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA23969; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:12:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messier To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) In-Reply-To: <199510041811.TAA30186@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 824 Lines: 41 On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Ralf Baechle wrote: > As Andy had already said this might be a cache problem.. I suggest to > post the command sequence you used to build your executable. This > might already show the source of the trouble. Here is my Makefile: CC = mipsel-linux-gcc AS = mipsel-linux-as LD = mipsel-linux-ld .c.s: $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -S $< .s.o: $(AS) $(ASFLAGS) -o $*.o $< .c.o: $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< .S.s: $(CPP) $(CFLAGS) $< -o $*.s .S.o: $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< -o $*.o LOADADDR = 0x80060000 KERNELBASE = 0x80000000 CFLAGS = -Wall -I. -mips1 -mcpu=r3000 LDFLAGS = -N -oformat ecoff-littlemips all: boot boot: crt0.o boot.o dec_prom.o $(LD) $(LDFLAGS) -e start -Ttext $(LOADADDR) -o boot \ crt0.o boot.o dec_prom.o crt0.o: crt0.S $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c crt0.S clean: -rm -f *.o a.out boot From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 5 20:40:12 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA07379 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:40:11 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27873; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:40:07 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510051939.UAA11726@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id UAA11726; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:39:11 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.8 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:39:10 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 486 Lines: 21 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi again, I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.7-1.3.8.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Happy patching, Ralf 0da1ed028e2d7a3ff0c933736f9df5de linux-1.3.7-1.3.8.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHNDq0ckbl6vezDBAQESRwP8ClLcCFq6tskVbx7GmdhkRBQfKWwGeKjf RIsDJi06PBCciGyF8nI8pRlaG5RqrCqm7usEHIN/IDZZefU9YARimySRiMT4Y4Uo 0RPk4jt3nGkpOUDQyq5T3bxhjNzzPsKOh2rhFK+dCfl4o1Pes32dODz0ap7zXZ/j c69z1QL+9Kw= =o+Yj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 5 20:41:08 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA07406 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:41:08 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27903; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:41:06 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510051940.UAA11759@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id UAA11759; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:40:49 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.9 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:40:47 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 486 Lines: 21 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi again, I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.8-1.3.9.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Happy patching, Ralf 20e1969e4600c3ab6046594bf702fc88 linux-1.3.8-1.3.9.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHNqMkckbl6vezDBAQHbkQP/UmgYtysaISaDexgqwIoiRe3PHK6jJO5d v7uSuDLxIai0HbB2Ws5xNR9jeQPlJv4Zk6xaU3gh3JzcN2i6OeANhu6ZIBelFnOJ IHUah2n+XGq7ZeMPRCQXtYKtzKTrXCj6i0fh8gnWt1szzBT8SQ7vYk22kKAN1kJL b4PVvQ1TEws= =voTU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Thu Oct 5 21:06:20 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA07682 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:06:20 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28363; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:06:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA18926 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:04:35 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510052004.VAA18926@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA18648; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:05:32 +0100 Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:05:32 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Matt Messier" at Oct 4, 95 07:12:51 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 402 Lines: 16 Hi Matt, > On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > As Andy had already said this might be a cache problem.. I suggest to > > post the command sequence you used to build your executable. This > > might already show the source of the trouble. > > Here is my Makefile: [...] Well, you Makefile seems to be ok. So if your code still crashes, you might post the source of the crt0.S? Ralf From pefo@enea.se Thu Oct 5 21:23:29 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA07876 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:23:28 +0100 Received: from outside.enea.se (gateway.enea.se) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28703; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:23:47 +0100 (MET) Received: by outside.enea.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA29417 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:25:04 +0100 Message-Id: <199510052125.WAA29417@outside.enea.se> Received: by outside via smap (V1.3) id sma029415; Thu Oct 5 22:24:43 1995 Received: by enea.se (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06578; Thu, 5 Oct 95 21:22:37 +0100 From: pefo@enea.se (Per Fogelstrom) Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:22:37 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510052004.VAA18926@infko.uni-koblenz.de> from "Systemkennung Linux" at Oct 5, 95 09:05:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 491 Lines: 17 > > Hi Matt, > > > On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > > > As Andy had already said this might be a cache problem.. I suggest to > > > post the command sequence you used to build your executable. This > > > might already show the source of the trouble. > > > > Here is my Makefile: > > [...] > > Well, you Makefile seems to be ok. So if your code still crashes, you might > post the source of the crt0.S? > You don't happen to use gp relative addressing, eg -Gx != -G0 ? From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 5 21:33:51 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA08001 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:33:51 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28870; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:33:51 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510052033.VAA12581@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id VAA12581; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:33:46 +0100 Subject: Re: DECstation testing (was DECstation status) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:33:45 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510052125.WAA29417@outside.enea.se> from "Per Fogelstrom" at Oct 5, 95 09:22:37 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 578 Lines: 20 Hi Matt, > > > > > On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > > > > > As Andy had already said this might be a cache problem.. I suggest to > > > > post the command sequence you used to build your executable. This > > > > might already show the source of the trouble. > > > > > > Here is my Makefile: > > > > [...] > > > > Well, you Makefile seems to be ok. So if your code still crashes, you might > > post the source of the crt0.S? > > > You don't happen to use gp relative addressing, eg -Gx != -G0 ? The compiler itself is internally defaulting to -G0. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Oct 6 20:45:20 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA04122 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:45:20 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25829; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:45:33 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510061945.UAA04095@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Received: from localhost by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.4/WE-1.0.1) id UAA04095; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:45:32 +0100 Subject: Linux 1.3.10 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:45:31 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 575 Lines: 23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi again, I'm gonna upload linux-1.3.9-1.3.10.diffs.gz to ftp.fnet.fr. Today just one single patch. (Eeeks ... How lame ... Ralf must be getting old ...) Happy patching, Ralf dd1c8469665b638881350fa1c76c767a linux-1.3.9-1.3.10.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHTlzkckbl6vezDBAQFOBAP+KOKzW3p5mSf4hTziF5/VDBUij889dWhw ccEhDO7KdCwBuGI536ewA9AZO3AULtkXhixmXliHTrlY2deP+uaRL9XzVtuJc1w/ qaiY0o/I6gCCi54rgycT05uW1nKY/AM/jKAS6OSb+cD4pZx7Fz7unrkzbVmf2GXl CCtUq4Scggo= =dJk4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Oct 9 10:53:08 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA17659 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:53:07 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16769; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:53:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA01839 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:13:42 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510082113.WAA01839@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Linux 1.3.21 ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:13:41 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1233 Lines: 34 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, here's another couple of kernel patches. I'm gonna upload the as usual to ftp.fnet.fr. Still eleven to go ... Happy patching, Ralf PS: Stoned, Luc - could one of you please move the files online? 5a65e3925b364b1a35d445c02c184312 linux-1.3.10-1.3.11.diffs.gz e2ae717554ba287ab3ae79f6ec8ccc5f linux-1.3.11-1.3.12.diffs.gz ff3d8cb1fab2ddf64d5719567a0571ad linux-1.3.12-1.3.13.diffs.gz ee84d3786c4613b4e3893003da3eab19 linux-1.3.13-1.3.14.diffs.gz f09b15c469295019a16e121a9e25be20 linux-1.3.14-1.3.15.diffs.gz 491d137a1fc93f5272ea960627d325e0 linux-1.3.15-1.3.16.diffs.gz 85d7b32d20a3e7b682714572a27d63a5 linux-1.3.16-1.3.17.diffs.gz 051d9ff2456bff87db02f83d01ee9017 linux-1.3.17-1.3.18.diffs.gz a4bff060ad679a2684380c5f61bf21bf linux-1.3.18-1.3.19.diffs.gz 5b3937a076778a0e966a5b193b54bc45 linux-1.3.19-1.3.20.diffs.gz 1d6719dbc8449a71271cb7cbfaeee18a linux-1.3.20-1.3.21.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHgm3Uckbl6vezDBAQGe9AQAhYjHCQtrNqfoomY1HGqbXPEW4pzv6MgT aaNFUZofMnHKNGx9YZkjQ4dAkjf4FSOqNFZRLoH+MKbaphx1xu0SNlLyWB0sM7Ia jmWosvkCTfseSgdi8XwCpT3cFvNU6UHlMFygconJe3kGm0cagGX9/PuWZtIxFxZl nCZmPMU4AJM= =9i2h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From beurton@fnet.fr Mon Oct 9 11:09:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA17852 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:09:34 +0100 Received: from nil.fnet.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17084; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:09:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (from beurton@localhost) by nil.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA20725; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:10:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:10:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199510091010.LAA20725@nil.fnet.fr> From: Luc Beurton To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux 1.3.21 ... X-Mailer: GNU Emacs [19.29] Mail Mode X-Attribution: lb Reply-To: Luc.Beurton@fnet.fr Content-Length: 1129 Lines: 28 >>>>> "Ralf" == Ralf Baechle writes: Hi all, Ralf> here's another couple of kernel patches. I'm gonna upload the Ralf> as usual to ftp.fnet.fr. Still eleven to go ... Ralf> Happy patching, Ralf> Ralf Ralf> PS: Stoned, Luc - could one of you please move the files online? Ralf> 5a65e3925b364b1a35d445c02c184312 linux-1.3.10-1.3.11.diffs.gz Ralf> e2ae717554ba287ab3ae79f6ec8ccc5f linux-1.3.11-1.3.12.diffs.gz Ralf> ff3d8cb1fab2ddf64d5719567a0571ad linux-1.3.12-1.3.13.diffs.gz Ralf> ee84d3786c4613b4e3893003da3eab19 linux-1.3.13-1.3.14.diffs.gz Ralf> f09b15c469295019a16e121a9e25be20 linux-1.3.14-1.3.15.diffs.gz Ralf> 491d137a1fc93f5272ea960627d325e0 linux-1.3.15-1.3.16.diffs.gz Ralf> 85d7b32d20a3e7b682714572a27d63a5 linux-1.3.16-1.3.17.diffs.gz Ralf> 051d9ff2456bff87db02f83d01ee9017 linux-1.3.17-1.3.18.diffs.gz Ralf> a4bff060ad679a2684380c5f61bf21bf linux-1.3.18-1.3.19.diffs.gz Ralf> 5b3937a076778a0e966a5b193b54bc45 linux-1.3.19-1.3.20.diffs.gz Ralf> 1d6719dbc8449a71271cb7cbfaeee18a linux-1.3.20-1.3.21.diffs.gz All these files are on ftp://ftp.fnet.fr/linux-mips/src/kernel/v1.3/ Luc. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Tue Oct 10 17:41:23 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA10065 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:41:22 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23148; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:41:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.10/94.01.10); id RAA18998; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:41:37 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id RAA08611; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:41:27 +0200 Message-Id: <199510101541.RAA08611@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: a very little thing, yes really: # X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:41:21 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 598 Lines: 14 Hi all, I just wanted to say that I got the ash prompt with a kernel 1.2.11 on my olivetti m700-10... Yes, really good work Andy and Ralf!! The oily is so similar to the magnum 4000 that we could easily merge the two boxes support More on this tomorrow after a few teaking... Once again, really good work, I'm beating myself 'cause it was so easy to boot the oily with this kernel, I mean I can't understand why I hafdn't taken the time (3hours) to test this: well now there is more to do, as I say we'll see tomorrow after I had tried to thrown in all the stuff Andy wrote... Cheers, Stoned. From sdbpci@antares.cis.rit.edu Tue Oct 10 18:34:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00516 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:34:16 +0100 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23499; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:07:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns1.cis.rit.edu by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via EUnet-France id AA19013; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:06:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from borg.cis.rit.edu (borg [129.21.250.19]) by ns1.cis.rit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA11042; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:45:07 -0400 Received: from mailclient.cis.rit.edu (antares.cis.rit.edu [129.21.250.57]) by borg.cis.rit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA26297; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:45:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199510101545.LAA26297@borg.cis.rit.edu> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Linux/MIPS on DECStation 5k (R3000) Cc: sdbpci@cis.rit.edu Reply-To: sdbpci@cis.rit.edu Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:49:51 -0400 From: "S.D. Brown" Content-Length: 2238 Lines: 37 I just wanted to check in and see what was currently going on with the MIPS port. I have a personal interest in possibly helping out on this since I *may* get 2 DECStation 5000's from a local company who traded in for Alpha based boxes, but DEC never bothered to pick up the old CPU's. The are the older models which feature the R3000 but my interest is not in the processor specific kernel areas as much as the device drivers (primarily ether and SCSI). I don't know what the differences in the R3k and R4k's was, or how significant those differences where (is this just a 68000 vs 68010 type thing?). I have experience with DEC ethernet controllers at the hardware level but more importantly a general interest in seeing this project fly. I don't know if it is taboo to mention this in a Linux crowd, but you might consider "peeking" at the 4.4BSD device drivers for any of the DEC specific controllers. It would at least reveal critical addresses and other mask tricks that might not be easily available in documentation. I have a P90 running a 1.2.1 kernel (at least, maybe newer) which I can work from. The 5k boxes don't have floppies so I don't know what I can do short of setting up my old VAXStation 2000 to be a MOP mom (but that might be tough since I don't have a licence for ULTRIX -- someone forgot to purge the disk when I got it -- and I don't know if MOP was installed on the disk). If you have gotten SCSI going, I could build a disk on my intel box and slide it over. I don't know ... I'm just looking for an update, or some guidance on where I might get involved. These two machines would be the only MIPS boxes have access to. I am just one guy, with a few free nights a week, but I would like to help. Scott -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott D. Brown Associate Scientist Digital Imaging and Remote Sensing Laboratory sdbpci@cis.rit.edu Center for Imaging Science PHONE: (716) 475-7194 Rochester Institute of Technology FAX: (716) 475-5988 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From imp@rover.village.org Tue Oct 10 18:45:25 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00658 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:45:24 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24656; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:45:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA15212 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:45:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199510101745.LAA15212@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:45:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 452 Lines: 14 Ralf, great job on all these patches. I was wondering if you had any ideas on when you'd be getting 1.3.x up to the same levels of the Intel? Basically, I'm looking for a good time to move the Deskstation patches into the 1.3.x based kernel. I have the next two weeks off (not this week, but Oct 16-Oct27) and it is looking like a good time to do that. Just wanted to see if that is a good assumption. I want my ash prompt with 1.3.x :-). Warner From marius@prilnari.com Tue Oct 10 19:13:54 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01002 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:13:54 +0100 Received: from yakko.prilnari.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25198; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:14:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marius@localhost) by yakko.prilnari.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA23166; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:14:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:14:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messier To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS on DECStation 5k (R3000) In-Reply-To: <199510101545.LAA26297@borg.cis.rit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 792 Lines: 19 On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, S.D. Brown wrote: > I'm just looking for an update, or some guidance on where I might get > involved. These two machines would be the only MIPS boxes have access to. > I am just one guy, with a few free nights a week, but I would like to > help. I have been working on getting a boot loader together, but so far I have had little success. Unfortunately my time comes and goes like the wind, and it has been gone lately, however I expect to be able to pick up again on it next week. As it stands right now, I have been having difficulty getting usable output from my cross compiler, but I suspect that it is a problem with my entry code. I have little idea of what anyone else has done w/ respect to the ds port. Matt Messier The Prilnari Project Lincoln, RI, USA From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 10 19:52:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01455 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:52:58 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25924; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:53:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA17381 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:51:51 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA14431; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:52:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:52:18 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510101852.TAA14431@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: a very little thing, yes really: # In-Reply-To: <199510101541.RAA08611@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> Cc: andy@soft-n-hard.de X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1116 Lines: 32 > > Hi all, > I just wanted to say that I got the ash prompt with a kernel 1.2.11 > on my olivetti m700-10... > CONGRATS!!! > Yes, really good work Andy and Ralf!! The oily is so similar to the > magnum 4000 that we could easily merge the two boxes support > > More on this tomorrow after a few teaking... > Once again, really good work, I'm beating myself 'cause it was so easy to > boot the oily with this kernel, I mean I can't understand why I hafdn't taken > the time (3hours) to test this: well now there is more to do, as I say we'll see > tomorrow after I had tried to thrown in all the stuff Andy wrote... > Well, it's really easy, as Ralf wrote: Just as with MS-DOG: If you make something wrong, it crashes :-) Do you use a ramdisk root fs, or already a root floppy ? Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 10 20:00:44 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA01572 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:00:43 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26117; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:01:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA17713 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:01:20 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA14457; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:01:47 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:01:47 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510101901.UAA14457@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: <199510101745.LAA15212@rover.village.org> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1424 Lines: 37 > > Ralf, > great job on all these patches. > > I was wondering if you had any ideas on when you'd be getting 1.3.x up > to the same levels of the Intel? > As I know Ralf this is a question of days :-) > Basically, I'm looking for a good time to move the Deskstation patches > into the 1.3.x based kernel. I have the next two weeks off (not this > week, but Oct 16-Oct27) and it is looking like a good time to do that. > Just wanted to see if that is a good assumption. > > I want my ash prompt with 1.3.x :-). > Actually, I do understand you. But there might be a *little* problem: The current Linux/MIPS 1.3.x kernels *compile* but nobody knows if they run :-). If you want a `#' try 1.2.11 first, really. There are so many changes in 1.3 that it might take much longer to make it running again than you'll need to make 1.2 running. And since Stoned has made changes to 1.2.11 too, we'll need to find an upgrade path to 1.3.x anyway. Well, Ralf, do you remember: I thought it might be better to have user code running on all platforms before going to 1.3.x. Now we have the hassle :-( Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 10 20:02:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA01609 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:02:17 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26145; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:02:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA17771 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:02:53 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA14466; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:03:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:03:20 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510101903.UAA14466@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS on DECStation 5k (R3000) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 899 Lines: 25 Hi, > > I have been working on getting a boot loader together, but so far I have > had little success. Unfortunately my time comes and goes like the wind, and > it has been gone lately, however I expect to be able to pick up again on it > next week. As it stands right now, I have been having difficulty getting > usable output from my cross compiler, but I suspect that it is a problem with > my entry code. I have little idea of what anyone else has done w/ respect to > the ds port. > did you sent that to Scott too? Just to be sure, since he isn't on the list yet. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From imp@rover.village.org Tue Oct 10 20:13:44 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA01759 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:13:44 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26383; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:14:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA18293 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:14:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199510101914.NAA18293@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:01:47 BST Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:14:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 779 Lines: 18 : Actually, I do understand you. But there might be a *little* problem: : The current Linux/MIPS 1.3.x kernels *compile* but nobody knows if : they run :-). If you want a `#' try 1.2.11 first, really. Well, I'd be happy to get Linux/MIPS 1.3.x up to the same level that other machines are at. I saw stoned's success, and thought that would be a good benchmark. However, I'd rather be at 1.3.x than 1.2.x for reasons that are completely irrational. If that means a small step backwards, then so be it. But that's just me. : Well, Ralf, do you remember: I thought it might be : better to have user code running on all platforms before going to : 1.3.x. Now we have the hassle :-( I don't mind over much for the hassle. Its not like I have a working system yet :-). Warner From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 10 21:03:05 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02335 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:03:04 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27380; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:03:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA19695 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:03:40 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA14637; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:04:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:04:07 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510102004.VAA14637@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: <199510101914.NAA18293@rover.village.org> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1159 Lines: 31 Hi again, > > Well, I'd be happy to get Linux/MIPS 1.3.x up to the same level that > other machines are at. I saw stoned's success, and thought that would > be a good benchmark. However, I'd rather be at 1.3.x than 1.2.x for > reasons that are completely irrational. If that means a small step > backwards, then so be it. But that's just me. > > : Well, Ralf, do you remember: I thought it might be > : better to have user code running on all platforms before going to > : 1.3.x. Now we have the hassle :-( > > I don't mind over much for the hassle. Its not like I have a working > system yet :-). > Ok, no problem! As soon Ralf has reached the Intel patch level the real work begins. I really hope that not too much will be broken since my time gets short these days. Too much jobs (shall I write :-) or :-( now ? ;-)). Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From imp@rover.village.org Tue Oct 10 22:24:51 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA03667 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:24:50 +0100 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28756; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:25:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from rover.village.org by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via EUnet-France id AA01932; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:25:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA18999 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:20:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199510102120.PAA18999@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:04:07 BST Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:20:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 498 Lines: 11 : Ok, no problem! As soon Ralf has reached the Intel patch level the : real work begins. I really hope that not too much will be broken : since my time gets short these days. Too much jobs (shall I write : :-) or :-( now ? ;-)). Good. Maybe it will be a race between STONED and I as to which one can get a 1.3.x MIPS/Linux machine up and running (well, assuming that Ralf doesn't beat us to it). I would find it ironic if Deskstation was the first one to ash, given the history there... Warner From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Wed Oct 11 02:13:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA07601 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:13:32 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04378; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:13:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <188083-3>; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:14:34 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA02321; Tue, 10 Oct 95 21:22:10 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA05882; Tue, 10 Oct 95 21:22:05 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510110122.AA05882@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Problems? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:22:05 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1966 Lines: 46 Hello again, I wrote here about a month ago wondering how I get Linux/Mips running on my video-less Magnum4000. Well, I've managed to get my fingers on a video board for it, and am now up and running. As an initial test of the hardware, I installed Windows-NT. It seems to run just fine, it sees the mouse/keyboard and plays its irritating chime on login. So, I proceeded by ftp'ing the cross development tools/libraries, the 1.2 and 1.3 kernel sources, and milo. Everything compiled just fine, and the 1.2 kernel boots Ok. So far so good, however I've run into some problems which may or may not be my doing: - With the 1.2.11 kernel, it freezes up when it asks for the root floppy. Interestingly enough, this does not happen if I unplug the mouse before I boot. - Booting 1.2.11 with a bare root floppy and only /bin/sh provides me with a '#' prompt, but any attempts to type in anything result in complaints about 'keyboard: unrecognized scancode (xx)', or 'keyboard: unknown scancode (xx)'. Although, when the shell finally gets a carriage-return, it complains about 'xxxxx; not found' (to be expected), so at least the shell seems ok. - I have been unable to boot the 1.3.10 kernel at all. I keep getting kernel panics while it figures out what kind of floppy I have. I hope the above is of some use to you. If needed, I can give exact details about kernel configuration, error text, etc... The only possible thing I can think of is that my hardware config is somewhat odd. I am not using a Mips mouse or keyboard, but a generic PC keyboard and a Microsoft mouse (it's all I have available), however they both work just fine in Windows NT. Anyone mind if I join this mailing list to listen in? I can help out here and there, and do some testing of new code. -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 11 09:18:42 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA12402 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:18:41 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10899; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:18:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA09054; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:17:35 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA17959; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:18:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:18:02 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510110818.JAA17959@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, davidk@sni.ca Subject: Re: Problems? In-Reply-To: <9510110122.AA05882@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 3651 Lines: 91 Hi, > > I wrote here about a month ago wondering how I get > Linux/Mips running on my video-less Magnum4000. Well, I've managed > to get my fingers on a video board for it, and am now up and running. > Great! But just one question: Is it a lowres or highres card ? I mean, the one with 1 Meg Vram or with 2 Megs ? Or even more easy to identify: Standard 15pin VGA connector or a 25pin with 3 shielded connectors? > As an initial test of the hardware, I installed Windows-NT. > It seems to run just fine, it sees the mouse/keyboard and plays its > irritating chime on login. > > So, I proceeded by ftp'ing the cross development tools/libraries, > the 1.2 and 1.3 kernel sources, and milo. Everything compiled just fine, > and the 1.2 kernel boots Ok. So far so good, however I've run into > some problems which may or may not be my doing: > Can't believe it!!! This is the first time I heard that someone just downloaded the crossdev stuff and the kernel sources and succeeded to boot. Really, you must be a wizzard :-) > - With the 1.2.11 kernel, it freezes up when it asks for the > root floppy. Interestingly enough, this does not happen if > I unplug the mouse before I boot. > Yeah, that's really interesting. I must admit that I haven't tried to boot with the mouse plugged in yet. Thanks for the bug report, I'll check that. > - Booting 1.2.11 with a bare root floppy and only /bin/sh provides > me with a '#' prompt, but any attempts to type in anything result > in complaints about 'keyboard: unrecognized scancode (xx)', or > 'keyboard: unknown scancode (xx)'. Although, when the shell finally > gets a carriage-return, it complains about 'xxxxx; not found' (to be > expected), so at least the shell seems ok. > Even more interesting. I heard about odd keyboard problems before, but was not able to track them down. Could you please exchange your keyboards, ie. take the one from the Linux box and connect it to the Magnum ? I'm not sure if this will work, but who knows... > - I have been unable to boot the 1.3.10 kernel at all. I keep getting > kernel panics while it figures out what kind of floppy I have. > The 1.3.x kernels are just "guaranteed to compile" :-) Jokes aside, work is in progress here and nobody expected one of the 1.3 kernels to run. However, at least it's good to hear that something works, even if it's only a panic message :-) > I hope the above is of some use to you. If needed, I can give > exact details about kernel configuration, error text, etc... > Oh yes, that's a lot of usable information! > The only possible thing I can think of is that my hardware config > is somewhat odd. I am not using a Mips mouse or keyboard, but a generic > PC keyboard and a Microsoft mouse (it's all I have available), however they > both work just fine in Windows NT. > I am using a Sherry US keyboard on my Magnum. It works fine, as a german "Twinhead" lowcost keyboard did too. Just try another keyboard, please. > Anyone mind if I join this mailing list to listen in? I can help out here and > there, and do some testing of new code. You're more than welcome! Luc or Stoned, could you please subscribe David? I'm in a hurry, sorry... Thanks for all this info -- that's really good news in the morning! Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 11 12:18:27 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14526 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:18:26 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15180; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:12:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07244 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:09:06 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510111109.MAA07244@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:09:05 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510101745.LAA15212@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 10, 95 11:45:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 815 Lines: 26 Hi, > Ralf, > great job on all these patches. Thank, nice to hear :-) > I was wondering if you had any ideas on when you'd be getting 1.3.x up > to the same levels of the Intel? This evening. At home I've got a 1.3.30 kernel running and if I don't work another 16 hours today (whistle) ... > Basically, I'm looking for a good time to move the Deskstation patches > into the 1.3.x based kernel. I have the next two weeks off (not this > week, but Oct 16-Oct27) and it is looking like a good time to do that. > Just wanted to see if that is a good assumption. Move 1.2.x patches into 1.3.x won't be a real problem as the changes to arch/mips/ and include/asm-mips/ were relativly small. > I want my ash prompt with 1.3.x :-). Oh yes, it's really incredible feeling to see that single hash sign ... Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 11 12:11:50 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14419 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:11:49 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15170; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:12:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07266 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:12:06 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510111112.MAA07266@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Linux/MIPS on DECStation 5k (R3000) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:12:06 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Matt Messier" at Oct 10, 95 02:14:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 582 Lines: 13 Hi Matt, > I have been working on getting a boot loader together, but so far I have > had little success. Unfortunately my time comes and goes like the wind, and > it has been gone lately, however I expect to be able to pick up again on it > next week. As it stands right now, I have been having difficulty getting > usable output from my cross compiler, but I suspect that it is a problem with > my entry code. I have little idea of what anyone else has done w/ respect to > the ds port. May I can help you if you send me the source? Mail or Ftp - it's your choice. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 11 12:17:53 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14494 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:17:53 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15254; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:18:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07339 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:18:08 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510111118.MAA07339@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:18:07 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510102120.PAA18999@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 10, 95 03:20:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 593 Lines: 15 Hi, > : Ok, no problem! As soon Ralf has reached the Intel patch level the > : real work begins. I really hope that not too much will be broken > : since my time gets short these days. Too much jobs (shall I write > : :-) or :-( now ? ;-)). > > Good. Maybe it will be a race between STONED and I as to which one > can get a 1.3.x MIPS/Linux machine up and running (well, assuming that > Ralf doesn't beat us to it). I would find it ironic if Deskstation > was the first one to ash, given the history there... We might turn that in a contest: how about who get's a usable X first? Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 11 12:25:11 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14637 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:25:10 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15424; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:25:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07408 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:25:26 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510111125.MAA07408@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Problems? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:25:26 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510110818.JAA17959@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 11, 95 09:18:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1531 Lines: 34 Hi, > > - With the 1.2.11 kernel, it freezes up when it asks for the > > root floppy. Interestingly enough, this does not happen if > > I unplug the mouse before I boot. > > > > Yeah, that's really interesting. I must admit that I haven't tried > to boot with the mouse plugged in yet. Thanks for the bug report, > I'll check that. > > > - Booting 1.2.11 with a bare root floppy and only /bin/sh provides > > me with a '#' prompt, but any attempts to type in anything result > > in complaints about 'keyboard: unrecognized scancode (xx)', or > > 'keyboard: unknown scancode (xx)'. Although, when the shell finally > > gets a carriage-return, it complains about 'xxxxx; not found' (to be > > expected), so at least the shell seems ok. There is definatly some wierd bug with the keyboard; earlier I had a similar problem for the first keystroke I did. Later on the bug magically dissappeared for me: no bug -> no debugging :-( > The 1.3.x kernels are just "guaranteed to compile" :-) Jokes aside, > work is in progress here and nobody expected one of the 1.3 kernels > to run. However, at least it's good to hear that something works, even > if it's only a panic message :-) Oh yes - especially considering that I *never* booted a 1.3.x kernel ... I'll fix the patching bugs when I finally reached Linus' release. As I wrote before I'd like all the 1.3.x kernels to be considered to be snapshots of what I'm working on and nothing else. Expect a better tested release this week. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 11 15:45:08 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA17095 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:45:07 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19204; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:45:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA09007; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:44:37 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510111444.PAA09007@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: DECstation boot code To: marius@prilnari.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:44:37 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1219 Lines: 35 Hi Matt, hi all, I changed Matt's crt0.o startup code for the DECstation a little bit and hope this fixes his problems. Since this is a nasty and sometimes difficult to track bug that sometimes even catches wannabe-gurus like me ;-) I'm posting the fix to the mailinglist, too. Old: .globl start start: .set noreorder jal main # main(argc, argv) nop ------------------------------------------------------------------- New: .globl start start: .set noreorder jal main # main(argc, argv) subu $sp,$sp,16 # create 16 bytes for # argument save space You forgot to subtract 16 bytes from the stackpointer. These 16 bytes are the argument save space that need to be reserved for each call to a subroutine. In your case the main routine will try to save the passed parameters onto the stack and by that overwriting something else or writing to unmapped space ... For more information about the MIPS calling sequence please see the appendix in the often mentioned MIPS bible from Kane. Or ask me ... Ralf From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Wed Oct 11 15:40:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA17028 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:40:33 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19120; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:40:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <180896-2>; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:41:33 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA12274; Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:49:08 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA10917; Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:49:02 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510111449.AA10917@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Problems? To: andy@soft-n-hard.de (Andreas Busse) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:49:02 -0400 Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199510110818.JAA17959@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 11, 95 09:18:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1467 Lines: 45 > > > Hi, > > > > > I wrote here about a month ago wondering how I get > > Linux/Mips running on my video-less Magnum4000. Well, I've managed > > to get my fingers on a video board for it, and am now up and running. > > > > Great! But just one question: Is it a lowres or highres card ? > I mean, the one with 1 Meg Vram or with 2 Megs ? Or even more > easy to identify: Standard 15pin VGA connector or a 25pin with > 3 shielded connectors? I believe it's the high-res card, as it has the funny shielded connector, and will do 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Can this card do more that 256 colours? I couldn't get Windows NT to do anything but. > > Even more interesting. I heard about odd keyboard problems before, but > was not able to track them down. Could you please exchange your keyboards, > ie. take the one from the Linux box and connect it to the Magnum ? I'm > not sure if this will work, but who knows... > Ok, I'll give it a shot this evening and see what happens. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de > Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 > Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 > ----------------------------------------------------------- > -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From marius@prilnari.com Wed Oct 11 15:58:40 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA17259 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:58:40 +0100 Received: from yakko.prilnari.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19478; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:58:58 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marius@localhost) by yakko.prilnari.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA29951; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:58:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:58:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messier To: Ralf Baechle Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: DECstation boot code In-Reply-To: <199510111444.PAA09007@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 964 Lines: 22 On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Ralf Baechle wrote: > You forgot to subtract 16 bytes from the stackpointer. These 16 bytes > are the argument save space that need to be reserved for each call to > a subroutine. In your case the main routine will try to save the > passed parameters onto the stack and by that overwriting something > else or writing to unmapped space ... For more information about the > MIPS calling sequence please see the appendix in the often mentioned > MIPS bible from Kane. Or ask me ... I'll be sure to take a look in my MIPS bible about that. In the meantime, is that 16 bytes accounting for the 4 arguments passed into the boot code from the firmware (i.e., as seen in my boot.c code)? I'm going to give this a whirl tonight when I get home from work since I'll have some time before I leave on my roadtrip, and I'll be sure to pack my MIPS bible for reading material :-) Thanks, Ralf! Matt Messier The Prilnari Project Lincoln, RI, USA From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 11 17:51:32 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18647 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:51:32 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22535; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:51:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA09705 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:51:47 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510111651.RAA09705@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: DECstation boot code To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:51:46 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Matt Messier" at Oct 11, 95 10:58:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 23 Hi all, > > You forgot to subtract 16 bytes from the stackpointer. These 16 bytes > > are the argument save space that need to be reserved for each call to > > a subroutine. In your case the main routine will try to save the > > passed parameters onto the stack and by that overwriting something > > else or writing to unmapped space ... For more information about the > > MIPS calling sequence please see the appendix in the often mentioned > > MIPS bible from Kane. Or ask me ... > I'll be sure to take a look in my MIPS bible about that. In the meantime, > is that 16 bytes accounting for the 4 arguments passed into the boot code > from the firmware (i.e., as seen in my boot.c code)? Yes, the sixteen bytes are the space for a maximum of four parameters. Always reserve at least 16 bytes plus 4 additional bytes for each extra parameter. Aligning the total amount to a multiple of 8 bytes will give - better performance - keep the stack pointer 64 bit aligned for doubleword access with bus error. Ralf From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 11 18:44:34 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19259 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:44:34 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23863; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:44:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA24052 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:45:08 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA19259; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:45:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:45:34 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510111745.SAA19259@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: <199510102120.PAA18999@rover.village.org> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1067 Lines: 27 Hi again, > > Good. Maybe it will be a race between STONED and I as to which one > can get a 1.3.x MIPS/Linux machine up and running (well, assuming that > Ralf doesn't beat us to it). I would find it ironic if Deskstation > was the first one to ash, given the history there... > I just talked to Ralf and we agreed that it doesn't make any sense to use 1.3.x kernels yet, since they are changing too rapidly. Please, Warner and Stoned, if you wan't to continue your work, do it with 1.2.11 and send me patches. Ralf and me will try to move them into 1.3.x as soon as possible. OK? In other words: The "official" Linux/MIPS kernel is still 1.2.11.x, 1.3.x should be regarded as "unusable" as long it isn't tested at least on the PICA box. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Thu Oct 12 02:57:14 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA26137 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:57:13 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03832; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:57:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <180776-3>; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:58:09 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA07681; Wed, 11 Oct 95 22:05:42 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA16172; Wed, 11 Oct 95 22:05:29 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510120205.AA16172@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Keyboard troubles To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:05:29 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 897 Lines: 26 More info on the keyboard problem: I've tried a different keyboard, with the identical results as before (unrecognized scancode). The first was a generic $12 one with a PS/2 adapter on it, and the second, a high-quality Digital PS/2 one. Some further investigation has revealed the following: - On boot up I get a complaint about "Scanmode 2 change failed" - Looking into the kernel source (found it in drivers/char/keyboard.c) seems to indicate that it is trying to initialize the keyboard and enable interrupts for it. I haven't a clue on what's needed at the low-level driver level to make a keyboard work, but it seems that there might still be something wrong in the kernel, or I've just got a quirky set of keyboards. David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From imp@rover.village.org Thu Oct 12 03:18:26 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA26394 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 03:18:26 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04141; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 03:18:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA23577 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 20:18:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199510120218.UAA23577@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Keyboard troubles In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:05:29 EDT Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 20:18:59 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 187 Lines: 6 : - On boot up I get a complaint about "Scanmode 2 change failed" I got these from the Deskstation keyboard until I got the I/O base address right. Then the problem went away. Warner From andy@soft-n-hard.de Thu Oct 12 10:05:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01166 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:05:33 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11015; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:05:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA18257 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:05:51 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA22404; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:06:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:06:18 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510120906.KAA22404@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Keyboard troubles In-Reply-To: <9510120205.AA16172@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1441 Lines: 39 Hi again, > > More info on the keyboard problem: > > I've tried a different keyboard, with the identical > results as before (unrecognized scancode). The first was > a generic $12 one with a PS/2 adapter on it, and the second, > a high-quality Digital PS/2 one. > > Some further investigation has revealed the following: > > - On boot up I get a complaint about "Scanmode 2 change failed" > > - Looking into the kernel source (found it in drivers/char/keyboard.c) > seems to indicate that it is trying to initialize the > keyboard and enable interrupts for it. > > I haven't a clue on what's needed at the low-level driver > level to make a keyboard work, but it seems that there might still > be something wrong in the kernel, or I've just got a quirky set of > keyboards. > Strange... Really. It does work on my Magnum, so why shouldn't it work on yours... I will try to find out, but I'm really short of time this week. Perhaps one of the other Magnum or Olivetti guys can help? You reported problems with the mouse too. Is it connected or are you running the Magnum without a mouse? Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Thu Oct 12 14:37:48 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01368 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:37:47 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16394; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:38:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <192151-2>; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:38:57 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA16160; Thu, 12 Oct 95 09:46:35 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA19669; Thu, 12 Oct 95 09:46:30 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510121346.AA19669@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Keyboard troubles To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:46:30 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 683 Lines: 25 > > More info on the keyboard problem: > > Strange... Really. It does work on my Magnum, so why shouldn't > it work on yours... I will try to find out, but I'm really short > of time this week. Perhaps one of the other Magnum or Olivetti > guys can help? > You reported problems with the mouse too. Is it connected or > are you running the Magnum without a mouse? > > Andy So far, I've been running without the mouse at all. I'll probably play around with the kernel source and see if I can force it into working. -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From imp@rover.village.org Thu Oct 12 20:46:09 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA05724 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:46:08 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25075; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:46:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA26228 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:46:43 -0600 Message-Id: <199510121946.NAA26228@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:45:34 BST Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:46:42 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 466 Lines: 11 : I just talked to Ralf and we agreed that it doesn't make any : sense to use 1.3.x kernels yet, since they are changing too : rapidly. Please, Warner and Stoned, if you wan't to continue : your work, do it with 1.2.11 and send me patches. OK. I think I'll focus on getting a gcc running on Mips/NT to cross compile Mips/Linux binaries, so I can do development on just one machine... Also, booting off the hard disk has to be faster than floppy net :-) Warner From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 12 21:31:11 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06263 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:31:11 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25749; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:31:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA21914 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:31:10 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510122031.VAA21914@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:31:10 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510121946.NAA26228@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 12, 95 01:46:42 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 739 Lines: 20 Hi Warner, > : I just talked to Ralf and we agreed that it doesn't make any > : sense to use 1.3.x kernels yet, since they are changing too > : rapidly. Please, Warner and Stoned, if you wan't to continue > : your work, do it with 1.2.11 and send me patches. > > OK. I think I'll focus on getting a gcc running on Mips/NT to cross > compile Mips/Linux binaries, so I can do development on just one > machine... Also, booting off the hard disk has to be faster than > floppy net :-) Oh well, there are other means of networking for booting. I suggest to use IP networking as suggested in RFC1149. The superior solution for net booting. In combination with MIME as in RFC1437 this is really interesting ... Happy hacking, Ralf From imp@rover.village.org Thu Oct 12 21:48:25 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06458 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:48:25 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25980; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:48:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA27401 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:49:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199510122049.OAA27401@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:31:10 BST Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:49:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 569 Lines: 12 : Oh well, there are other means of networking for booting. I suggest to : use IP networking as suggested in RFC1149. The superior solution for net : booting. In combination with MIME as in RFC1437 this is really : interesting ... Hmmm, the RFC 1149 transport method looks quite promising, especially in the face of MIME described with in RFC 1437. I'm not sure that the PROMs that I have in my Deskstation are new and advanced enough to support this method of networking.... I'll give Deskstation a call and see if I've missed something in their docs... Warner From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 13 12:48:37 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA18619 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:48:37 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13173; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:49:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.10/94.01.10); id MAA26017; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:49:14 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id MAA12501; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:48:56 +0200 Message-Id: <199510131048.MAA12501@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:20:12 MDT." <199510102120.PAA18999@rover.village.org> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:48:50 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 833 Lines: 20 Hi all, [it seems to me that the last time was a millions years ago] >>>>> "Warner" == Warner Losh writes: Warner> Good. Maybe it will be a race between STONED and I as to Warner> which one can get a 1.3.x MIPS/Linux machine up and running Warner> (well, assuming that Ralf doesn't beat us to it). I would Warner> find it ironic if Deskstation was the first one to ash, given Warner> the history there... Hum, I got little things that scratch me with 1.2.11 (no no nothing really important Andy :), it's only that it works when I "say" Magnum 4000 and it doesn't when I "say" Olivetti ;) but why not, a little race, ok I'll try this week-end to boot a 1.3 kernel. Get set,... Cheers to you all people. --- Running OS: Linux/MIPS... You may I'm a dreamer, but I hope someday you will join us. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 13 13:15:53 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA19033 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:15:52 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13717; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:16:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.10/94.01.10); id NAA26163; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:16:33 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id NAA12558; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:16:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199510131116.NAA12558@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:48:50 +0200." <199510131048.MAA12501@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:16:16 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 394 Lines: 15 Hi again,... >>>>> "Stoned" == Stoned Elipot writes: Stoned> Running OS: Linux/MIPS... You Stoned> may I'm a dreamer, but I hope someday you will join us. hooops, mistake, so correction: 'You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, and I hope someday you will join us.' 1) J. Lennon wouldn't be happy 2) We could had understood I was forgetting you all... Stoned. From beurton@fnet.fr Fri Oct 13 13:29:23 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA19298 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:29:22 +0100 Received: from nil.fnet.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13964; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:29:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from beurton@localhost) by nil.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA16768; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:30:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:30:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199510131230.NAA16768@nil.fnet.fr> From: Luc Beurton To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: 1.3.x where x approaches infinity X-Mailer: GNU Emacs [19.29] Mail Mode X-Attribution: lb Reply-To: Luc.Beurton@fnet.fr Content-Length: 540 Lines: 18 >>>>> "Stoned" == Stoned Elipot writes: Stoned> Hi again,... >>>>> "Stoned" == Stoned Elipot writes: Running OS: Stoned> Linux/MIPS... You may I'm a dreamer, but I hope someday you Stoned> will join us. Stoned> hooops, mistake, so correction: Stoned> 'You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, and I Stoned> hope someday you will join us.' Stoned> 1) J. Lennon wouldn't be happy 2) We could had understood I Stoned> was forgetting you all... Stoned> Stoned. T'as fini un peu :) From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Sun Oct 15 00:35:38 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA16420 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:35:38 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19291; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:35:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA18442 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:35:57 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510142335.AAA18442@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Linux 1.3.32 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:35:57 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1226 Lines: 35 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, here's again yet another bunch of kernel patches. I'll upload them to ftp.fnet.fr as usual where they'll appear as soon as someone moved them online. Happy patching, Ralf PS: Two to go ... 1ae6925c280461f4549b4668d9015e19 linux-1.3.21-1.3.22.diffs.gz fa4ffd1276ad44ae61be31fcede3e8b4 linux-1.3.22-1.3.23.diffs.gz ac89aeae27e1840d6b38092bbfc9ac00 linux-1.3.23-1.3.24.diffs.gz e238ac3af9002cd97ecacae52f0d3645 linux-1.3.24-1.3.25.diffs.gz 317fa0c130321f34d5f00394cb733f3d linux-1.3.25-1.3.26.diffs.gz af7232ce8fbab50e8344750935a02290 linux-1.3.26-1.3.27.diffs.gz 21e67ccb5df998dce200c38c49475c65 linux-1.3.27-1.3.28.diffs.gz d9dc72a3ec4c3acaa89f8c1a67befbd9 linux-1.3.28-1.3.29.diffs.gz 196527a6a5652a41e87d56e171765226 linux-1.3.29-1.3.30.diffs.gz cfd2c12e41a016ea813ea8e476cdf305 linux-1.3.30-1.3.31.diffs.gz 083c60f6f83ae20d1ce58a2e94ec603c linux-1.3.31-1.3.32.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMH/o80ckbl6vezDBAQHAXQP/Tv0LT3tzlc8lGuOYXagnWHnhmzMEWqCz lUSEaM7ZFvtiY1mw5gcUuPF/3bYczor1ot6qlVvr0ilZWSVoAYhjDflpepiTy+YQ tdtnJ+sA8WGmasS/l1fuVPqGCGLnFQPVfFY7ng3e7yu1NVuP/ROOHZqcvvNAFBKM SE3A2jyBNQc= =AjRr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Oct 16 00:10:56 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA03768 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:10:55 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ([193.98.169.1]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10563; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:11:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA29471 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:11:26 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510152311.AAA29471@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Linux 1.3.33 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:11:26 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 612 Lines: 23 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, again yet another patch. This patch changes the syscall interface to make binary compatibility with the existing implementations of MIPS operating system possible such as Risc/OS, IRIX. Happy patching, Ralf 4be84bb0d94feedeb5549219cf288807 linux-1.3.32-1.3.33.diffs.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMIGQZ0ckbl6vezDBAQGv2QP7B+j3JJbTawpc5jezl3JZQZlkxTG4taxj UCjV6QyHooKyvdxKZSU5VmZGpzlTBAz/nh/J5lvCPFSXhMNdMsEsBXGQEJf3QW65 5PSTMwWy6Ze8o7muW5PhQjDM4q4vC10kciKWbg4/H0Ua+wWIuP1YGXyHPE+RIw6U PJtpDGXm2yM= =iLzD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Mon Oct 16 10:09:07 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11909 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:09:07 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21361; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:09:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA12119; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:07:45 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510160907.KAA12119@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA07182; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:08:34 +0100 Subject: Re: Syscalls in NetBSD? To: pefo@enea.se (Per Fogelstrom) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:08:33 +0100 (MET) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <199510160815.JAA29025@gordon.enea.se> from "Per Fogelstrom" at Oct 16, 95 09:15:14 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3265 Lines: 70 Hi Per, I'm CC-ing this to linux-mips. > > as you may already have read on the MIPS mailinglist I've changed > > Linux/MIPS' system call interface to work like the one of Risc/OS > > and IRIX. This give a nice way to be more compatible than the > > ABI demands ... > > > Yes, i saw that. Seems resonable. Only one thought: Isn't irix and > risc/os big endian systems? Considering that, would it not be nicer > to have Linux and NetBSD to be compatible on the system call level > so they could share binaries without compat interfaces? The big deal that I want is that I can even use libraries like libc.so from an SGI. I think this is usefull to make running comercial software useable on Linux/MIPS. Implementing yet another syscall interface for the NetBSD syscalls would be nice. Unluckily the syscall numbers are not identical :-( Even worse - I cloned the behaviour of IRIX to return an error status from a syscall in a3. I think we now still have the time to redesign the basic interfaces of our two OSes to make compatibility without kludges possible. I think of renumbering the syscalls the following way: 0 - 999 SVR4 flavoured calls a la Risc/OS, IRIX 1000 - 1999 SYSV flavoured calls a la Risc/OS, IRIX 2000 - 2999 BSD flavoured calls a la Risc/OS, IRIX 3000 - 3999 POSIX flavoured calls a la Risc/OS, IRIX 4000 - 4999 Linux flavoured calls 5000 - 5999 NetBSD flavoured calls For compatibility you could use the number range from 0 - 999 to mean the same thing as 5000 - 5999 for quite some time. This might even be a good solution as I found no more syscall in the 0 - 999 number range in the IRIX 5.3 header files (/usr/include/sys.s). Note that I could move the Linux syscall numbers again with no problem; It's just that I try to avoid the known to be in use range from 0 - 3999. I'm also interested in Ultrix in that direction. Oh, and didn't Sony have some BSD flavour for it's News systems? About the byte order - I try to make the design decisions with respect to both byte orders; there is interest in running Linux/MIPS in big endian mode on Magnum and Olivetti systems. Oh, and there are some wired ideas like bi-endian OSes. Mips Computer Systems, Inc. tried to write it but by that time Mips was bought by SGI and so the project was cancelled. > > What I'm now interested in is some info about how NetBSD does > > system calls: > > > > - What are the calling conventions (parameters/return values/ > > errors)? > > - Which number range is being used for the syscalls? (Background: > > Risc/OS and Irix reserve numbers 2000-2999 for BSD. Would be > > nice if NetBSD would do the same. > > > Calling convention is the same as in a function call, A0 = syscall > number, A1 = arg 1 and so on. Return value in v0 and perhaps v1. > Syscall numbers are in the low range from zero and upwards. > Syscall emulation interfaces are implemented. For the Mips systems > one exist for, ouch, ultrix. Well, nice in a way, but NetBSD is > not bug compatible with ultrix so expect programs to work better :-) Or to work at all ... I've written some not so nice things about Risc/OS in comp.sys.mips but what I've heared till now about Ultrix beats every- thing by an order of magnitude ... Ralf From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Mon Oct 16 13:17:03 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA14221 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:17:02 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25493; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:17:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id NAA03012; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:17:49 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id NAA15707; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:17:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199510161117.NAA15707@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Oily report X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:17:32 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 1309 Lines: 26 Hi all, well here is where we are, aka State of the art on Oily boxes (I guess): kernel 1.2.11 boots and mounts a root fs from a 1.44M floppy - yes Andy your floppy driver works out of the box on the Oily - Sonic ethernet chip probing seems ok (good MAC address reported). We had problem linking user binaries ('we' is - as Paolo was in Paris this week-end - Luc, Paolo and me :): when we use mipsel-linux-ld to link things like ash or ifconfig (yes we can dream;) we got an 'undefined reference to _main', but it's solved by putting a '_' in from of main in the source (you should have heard Paolo saying "PUT AN _ IN FRONT OF IT" ;) or more cleany using mipsel-linux-gcc to do the link (Ralf can you light our lantern, please ?) Well at last we got an OMAGIC executable but the kernel panic when we tried to launch it (both ash and ifconfig),... the ash compiled by Ralf works fine,... I need to take a closer look at this... Anyway, we still got to find out a way to proprely (aka without the NMI stuff) discover of much RAM there is in a Oily box... One more word, I'm still confused by the kernel: each time I try to compile a kernel with the Oily '#ifdef' and 'switch' I had added (surely wrongly), it fails to boot, so for now I use a "standard" MIPS Magnum 4000 configuration !! Cheers, Stoned. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Mon Oct 16 14:09:32 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA15100 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:09:31 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26726; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:09:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id OAA03215; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:10:11 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id OAA15796; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:10:00 +0200 Message-Id: <199510161210.OAA15796@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:33:22 BST." <199510161233.NAA10067@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:09:54 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 1461 Lines: 40 Hi all, >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Busse writes: [SNIP] Andreas> I have no clue what Ralf did to compile ash... However, Andreas> ifconfig is really whishful thinking since the SONIC driver Andreas> is still not working (shame on me). No please don't say that, it was only a joke at first, Luc said "let's try to assign it an IP address"... >> One more word, I'm still confused by the kernel: each time I try to >> compile a kernel with the Oily '#ifdef' and 'switch' I had added >> (surely wrongly), it fails to boot, so for now I use a "standard" >> MIPS Magnum 4000 configuration !! Andreas> What exactly happens when you boot a kernel configured for Andreas> the Olivetti? I might be able to help, but I really need more Andreas> info. Nothing ;) Blank Screen, I guess I had missed something in console.c, still searching. Andreas> Oh, BTW: Regarding the keyboard problems: Ralf insists of his Andreas> idea that the keyboard controller is at a different address Andreas> than it is currently used. I cannot confirm that since MY Andreas> keyboard works fine. There are enough Magnumish people on the Andreas> list to find out what's actually wrong, so: Mine works fine. Andreas> TO ALL MAGNUM OWNERS: Could you please try to boot a kernel Andreas> (I provide a binary if necessary) and tell us what happens Andreas> with your keyboard? Well you that "MAGNUN OWNERS" can also be understood "OILY OWNERS" :) Cheers, Stoned. From andy@soft-n-hard.de Mon Oct 16 13:33:46 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA14535 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:33:45 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25878; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:34:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA07561 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:34:14 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA10067; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:33:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:33:22 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510161233.NAA10067@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <199510161117.NAA15707@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 2387 Lines: 54 Hi all, > well here is where we are, aka State of the art on Oily boxes (I > guess): > > kernel 1.2.11 boots and mounts a root fs from a 1.44M floppy - yes > Andy your floppy driver works out of the box on the Oily - Sonic > ethernet chip probing seems ok (good MAC address reported). We had > problem linking user binaries ('we' is - as Paolo was in Paris this > week-end - Luc, Paolo and me :): when we use mipsel-linux-ld to link > things like ash or ifconfig (yes we can dream;) we got an 'undefined > reference to _main', but it's solved by putting a '_' in from of main in > the source (you should have heard Paolo saying "PUT AN _ IN FRONT OF > IT" ;) or more cleany using mipsel-linux-gcc to do the link (Ralf can > you light our lantern, please ?) Well at last we got an OMAGIC > executable but the kernel panic when we tried to launch it (both ash > and ifconfig),... the ash compiled by Ralf works fine,... I need to > take a closer look at this... Anyway, we still got to find out a way > to proprely (aka without the NMI stuff) discover of much RAM there is > in a Oily box... > I have no clue what Ralf did to compile ash... However, ifconfig is really whishful thinking since the SONIC driver is still not working (shame on me). > One more word, I'm still confused by the kernel: each time I try to > compile a kernel with the Oily '#ifdef' and 'switch' I had added > (surely wrongly), it fails to boot, so for now I use a "standard" MIPS > Magnum 4000 configuration !! What exactly happens when you boot a kernel configured for the Olivetti? I might be able to help, but I really need more info. Oh, BTW: Regarding the keyboard problems: Ralf insists of his idea that the keyboard controller is at a different address than it is currently used. I cannot confirm that since MY keyboard works fine. There are enough Magnumish people on the list to find out what's actually wrong, so: TO ALL MAGNUM OWNERS: Could you please try to boot a kernel (I provide a binary if necessary) and tell us what happens with your keyboard? Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Mon Oct 16 14:18:55 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA15312 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:18:55 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26908; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:19:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA08785 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:19:35 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA12308; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:18:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:18:44 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510161318.OAA12308@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <199510161210.OAA15796@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1189 Lines: 41 Hi again, > > No please don't say that, it was only a joke at first, Luc said "let's > try to assign it an IP address"... > Oh yes... It might work to assign an address, but who knows what happens then :-) > > Nothing ;) Blank Screen, I guess I had missed something in console.c, > still searching. > It might also be a problem somewhere deep in the lowlevel stuff. There's a silly tiny function drawline() in arch/mips/kernel/magnum4000.S which you can use for some sort of "debugging" before the console driver works, even before the TLB is initialized. If you can't figure out where the kernel stops, use this. You can also use the gdb stub, but for this some essential things need to be configured first. > Mine works fine. > That's what I thought... > Well you that "MAGNUN OWNERS" can also be understood "OILY OWNERS" :) Yeah, you're right :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Mon Oct 16 14:14:15 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA15252 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:14:15 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26845; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:14:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <191432-1>; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:15:18 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA28544; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:22:57 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA03031; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:22:56 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510161322.AA03031@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Oily report To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:22:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510161233.NAA10067@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 16, 95 01:33:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1059 Lines: 31 > > Oh, BTW: Regarding the keyboard problems: Ralf insists of his > idea that the keyboard controller is at a different address than > it is currently used. I cannot confirm that since MY keyboard > works fine. There are enough Magnumish people on the list to > find out what's actually wrong, so: > > TO ALL MAGNUM OWNERS: Could you please try to boot a kernel > (I provide a binary if necessary) and tell us what happens with > your keyboard? > > Cheers, > Andy > You already know the state of my keyboard on a Magnum, but here's some more info on it that I left out. On boot-up, the kernel complains about 3 things, first, "Scanmode 2 failed", then later after checking the floppy it blurts out "fake_keyboard_interrupt()" (or something similar, I didn't write it down), and lastly, "sw0 received". I tried to track down the "sw0 received" message, but couldn't determine where it came from. -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From andy@soft-n-hard.de Mon Oct 16 14:25:52 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA15434 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:25:52 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27086; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:26:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA08953 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:26:26 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA12357; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:25:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:25:34 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510161325.OAA12357@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <9510161322.AA03031@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 35 Hi again, > > You already know the state of my keyboard on a Magnum, but here's > some more info on it that I left out. On boot-up, the kernel complains > about 3 things, first, "Scanmode 2 failed", then later after > checking the floppy it blurts out "fake_keyboard_interrupt()" (or The "fake_keyboard_interrupt" message is normal, I believe... Some sort of debug output, when I remember right. > something similar, I didn't write it down), and lastly, > "sw0 received". > I tried to track down the "sw0 received" message, but > couldn't determine where it came from. > It comes from the low level interrupt handler in arch/mips/kernel/magnum4000.S and tells you that a software interrupt 0 was received. Shouldn't happen, actually. Can you tell me a bit more about your Magnum, ie. if it's a PC or SC machine, if it already has labels at the rear panel connectors etc.? Not that I would be able to say "Sure! That's it!" but it might be helpful to figure out if there are perhaps different versions of Magnums out there. I don't believe so, but who knows... Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Mon Oct 16 14:31:29 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA15542 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:31:29 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27192; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:31:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA09157 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:32:07 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA12377; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:31:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:31:16 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510161331.OAA12377@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <199510161325.OAA12357@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 807 Lines: 24 Hi again, > > "sw0 received". > > I tried to track down the "sw0 received" message, but > > couldn't determine where it came from. > > > > It comes from the low level interrupt handler in > arch/mips/kernel/magnum4000.S and tells you that a software interrupt 0 > was received. Shouldn't happen, actually. I must correct myself. The message is OK since it comes from the keyboard IRQ handler, which remaps keyboard IRQs to the timer IRQ. I'll check that on my Magnum later. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From pab@uni.net Mon Oct 16 15:46:01 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA16543 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:46:01 +0100 Received: from snoop.uni.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28793; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:46:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from nb.uni.net (snmp.uni.net [194.20.96.173]) by snoop.uni.net (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01036 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:41:53 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199510161441.PAA01036@snoop.uni.net> X-Sender: pab@relay.uni.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:47:59 +0200 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr From: pab@uni.net (Paolo Bevilacqua) Subject: Saturday in Paris Content-Length: 959 Lines: 23 Take two french hackers and theyr various boxes, a cat and a visitor from Rome. Take a beta net-tools set and an heavvily patched mips development suite. Add an underscore in front of main() et voila': you can now crash the kernel with 'ifconfig' :) Things that i've learned in Paris, in random order: - Plan 9 has a funny windowing system, it's called 8 1/2 but you have to figure how to use it. - Maximum uptime for Mach is half a day. - LAT and etherswitches don't mix well together. - Cool apartements in Paris have Ethernet but not phone. - Chorus singing in restaurants is allowed. - Metro' routing ends at 1.00 am. After, you must use taxi encapsulation. - Scheduling time for girlfriends is a common problem. - one should alias 'find . -name "*.c" -exec grep PATTERN {} \; -print' - ext2fs is good almost as UFS except that it writes metadata at different times, but can i burned if i remember when. See you all next time! /pab /pab From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Mon Oct 16 16:48:13 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17279 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:48:12 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00563; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:48:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id QAA03897; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:48:55 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id QAA16122; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:48:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199510161448.QAA16122@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Saturday in Paris In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:47:59 +0200." <199510161441.PAA01036@snoop.uni.net> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:48:35 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 1050 Lines: 36 Hi All, >>>>> "Paolo" == Paolo Bevilacqua writes: Paolo> Take two french hackers and theyr various boxes, a cat and a Paolo> visitor from Rome. Take a beta net-tools set and an heavvily Paolo> patched mips development suite. Add an underscore in front of Paolo> main() et voila': you can now crash the kernel with 'ifconfig' Paolo> :) I guess we can find zillion ways of doing this :) [SNIP] Paolo> - Maximum uptime for Mach is half a day. That's not the one of Mach but of Luc's box :) Paolo> - LAT and etherswitches don't mix well together. Yes indeed, very confusing the first time. Paolo> - Cool apartements in Paris have Ethernet but not phone. Not true now, from today 10am we got a phone line ;) Paolo> - Metro' routing ends at 1.00 am. After, you must use taxi Paolo> encapsulation. With MAX$$ option turned on, sorry Paolo. Paolo> - ext2fs is good almost as UFS except that it writes metadata at Paolo> different times, but can i burned if i remember when. You were too busy eating :) :) :) Cheers, Stoned. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Mon Oct 16 17:42:05 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18087 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:42:04 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02209; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:42:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id RAA04128; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:42:39 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id RAA16239; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:42:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199510161542.RAA16239@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:14:01 BST." <199510161614.RAA06778@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:42:16 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 955 Lines: 33 Hi All, Hi Ralf, >>>>> "Ralf" == Ralf Baechle writes: [SNIP] Ralf> There are two versions of the compiler out there - the ancient Ralf> one prefixes symbols with an underscore curing compile. The new Ralf> one doesn't. Yes, I'm aware of this, but I thought - and I ahve to check out - I'm using 2.7.0 with your latest patch... Ralf> Try the follwing to find about what you've installed: Ralf> Compile the following program: [SNIP] I'll will check, as I said above Ralf> About the RAM - you might try the Pica code in Milo. Does it Ralf> work for your machine? I didn't tried it, 'cause that is not at all what it's in the Oily docs, but I'll try, who knows ;) [SNIP] Ralf> Yes, it's a bit messy. I'm cleaning it up a bit in the Ralf> floppydriver. Well, I guess I had to do something similar in console.c,... that's remind me, Luc where is the video code you had promised me ??? Still playing with Mach, huh ?? :) Stoned. From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Oct 16 17:04:38 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA17542 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:04:38 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00930; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:04:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA06725 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:04:51 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510161604.RAA06725@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Oily report To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:04:50 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510161322.AA03031@silver.sni.CA> from "David Kerry" at Oct 16, 95 09:22:56 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 667 Lines: 16 Hi, > You already know the state of my keyboard on a Magnum, but here's > some more info on it that I left out. On boot-up, the kernel complains > about 3 things, first, "Scanmode 2 failed", then later after > checking the floppy it blurts out "fake_keyboard_interrupt()" (or > something similar, I didn't write it down), and lastly, > "sw0 received". > I tried to track down the "sw0 received" message, but > couldn't determine where it came from. Could you please post, which machines where anabled during compilation? I mean, where there any others enabled except Magnum 4000? Normally this shouldn't hurt, but the keyboard driver is a bit hacked. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Oct 16 17:14:22 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA17697 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:14:21 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01124; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:14:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA06778 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:14:02 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510161614.RAA06778@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Oily report To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:14:01 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510161117.NAA15707@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 16, 95 01:17:32 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2056 Lines: 51 Hi, > Hi all, > well here is where we are, aka State of the art on Oily boxes (I > guess): > > kernel 1.2.11 boots and mounts a root fs from a 1.44M floppy - yes > Andy your floppy driver works out of the box on the Oily - Sonic > ethernet chip probing seems ok (good MAC address reported). We had > problem linking user binaries ('we' is - as Paolo was in Paris this > week-end - Luc, Paolo and me :): when we use mipsel-linux-ld to link > things like ash or ifconfig (yes we can dream;) we got an 'undefined > reference to _main', but it's solved by putting a '_' in from of main in > the source (you should have heard Paolo saying "PUT AN _ IN FRONT OF > IT" ;) or more cleany using mipsel-linux-gcc to do the link (Ralf can > you light our lantern, please ?) Well at last we got an OMAGIC > executable but the kernel panic when we tried to launch it (both ash > and ifconfig),... the ash compiled by Ralf works fine,... I need to > take a closer look at this... Anyway, we still got to find out a way > to proprely (aka without the NMI stuff) discover of much RAM there is > in a Oily box... There are two versions of the compiler out there - the ancient one prefixes symbols with an underscore curing compile. The new one doesn't. Try the follwing to find about what you've installed: Compile the following program: foo(){} with the command mipsel-linux-gcc -S file.c If the resulting file.s now contains a symbol _foo you're running the old version of the compiler and must update. Or look at the symbols in your libc.a. If they're all prefixed with an '_' it's outdated ... Btw - 2.7.0 is the best version of GCC anyway ... About the RAM - you might try the Pica code in Milo. Does it work for your machine? > One more word, I'm still confused by the kernel: each time I try to > compile a kernel with the Oily '#ifdef' and 'switch' I had added > (surely wrongly), it fails to boot, so for now I use a "standard" MIPS > Magnum 4000 configuration !! Yes, it's a bit messy. I'm cleaning it up a bit in the floppydriver. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Oct 16 17:24:40 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA17863 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:24:39 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01607; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:24:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA06831 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:24:57 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510161624.RAA06831@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Saturday in Paris To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:24:56 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510161448.QAA16122@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 16, 95 04:48:35 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 839 Lines: 27 Hi All, > Paolo> - Cool apartements in Paris have Ethernet but not phone. How nice - just upgraded my networking at home. Now running Linux on three architectures networked ... If only the MIPS box'd answer pings ... > Not true now, from today 10am we got a phone line ;) Nice, in that case you shurely can mail me your number. > Paolo> - Metro' routing ends at 1.00 am. After, you must use taxi > Paolo> encapsulation. > > With MAX$$ option turned on, sorry Paolo. WT-LY 780 option works fine, also. Ok, visiting Paris by car is a well known way for foreigners to suicide ... > Paolo> - ext2fs is good almost as UFS except that it writes metadata at > Paolo> different times, but can i burned if i remember when. > > You were too busy eating :) :) :) Damn, I'd like to meet all you people (includes the cat ...) Ralf From imp@rover.village.org Mon Oct 16 18:22:57 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA18784 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 18:22:56 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04039; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 18:23:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA10204 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:26:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199510161626.KAA10204@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Saturday in Paris In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:47:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:26:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 281 Lines: 9 : - one should alias 'find . -name "*.c" -exec grep PATTERN {} \; -print' find -name "*.c" -print | xargs egrep PATTERM is a bunch faster :-) 100's of fewer fork/execs in most cases. I learned this the hard way wtih OI sources which were 200K lines in gobs of files... Warner From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Mon Oct 16 17:43:11 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18116 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:43:10 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02336; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:43:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <192234-1>; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:44:24 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA01437; Mon, 16 Oct 95 12:51:57 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA04876; Mon, 16 Oct 95 12:51:58 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510161651.AA04876@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Oily report To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:51:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510161604.RAA06725@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Oct 16, 95 05:04:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1096 Lines: 29 > Hi, > > > You already know the state of my keyboard on a Magnum, but here's > > some more info on it that I left out. On boot-up, the kernel complains > > about 3 things, first, "Scanmode 2 failed", then later after > > checking the floppy it blurts out "fake_keyboard_interrupt()" (or > > something similar, I didn't write it down), and lastly, > > "sw0 received". > > I tried to track down the "sw0 received" message, but > > couldn't determine where it came from. > > Could you please post, which machines where anabled during compilation? > I mean, where there any others enabled except Magnum 4000? Normally > this shouldn't hurt, but the keyboard driver is a bit hacked. > > Ralf > Initially, I had both the Acer and the Magnum 4000 configured in (actually I forgot about it). But after the keyboard problems, I went back and double-checked the config and removed all of the unnecessary stuff, including the Acer config. -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From andy@soft-n-hard.de Mon Oct 16 18:00:06 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA18349 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 18:00:05 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02772; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 18:00:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA15002 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 18:00:40 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA12883; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:59:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:59:48 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510161659.RAA12883@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <9510161651.AA04876@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 26 Hi again, > > Initially, I had both the Acer and the Magnum 4000 configured > in (actually I forgot about it). But after the keyboard problems, > I went back and double-checked the config and removed all of the > unnecessary stuff, including the Acer config. > Hmmm. When I remember right, I got the message "keyboard timed out" before I changed keyboard.c so that Ralf's changes apply to the whole JAZZ family instead of the PICA only. In so far, the keyboard driver must work at least halfway. What's about increasing delay loops in kbd_wait() and send_data(), for example? It's nothing uncommon that hardcoded delay loops that work on Intels fail on Mipses. They wait much faster :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Mon Oct 16 19:36:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA21667 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:36:35 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06343; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:36:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA07533 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:37:04 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510161837.TAA07533@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Saturday in Paris To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:37:04 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510161626.KAA10204@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 16, 95 10:26:21 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 278 Lines: 13 Hi, > : - one should alias 'find . -name "*.c" -exec grep PATTERN {} \; -print' > > find -name "*.c" -print | xargs egrep PATTERM Use GNU find with find -name "*.c" -print0 | xargs -0 egrep PATTERM or your nice find construct might break on spaces in filenames ... Ralf From imp@rover.village.org Mon Oct 16 19:53:44 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA23221 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:53:43 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06769; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:54:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA11377 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:54:26 -0600 Message-Id: <199510161854.MAA11377@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Saturday in Paris In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:37:04 BST Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:54:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 285 Lines: 11 : find . -name "*.c" -print0 | xargs -0 egrep PATTERM : : or your nice find construct might break on spaces in filenames ... True, or in any POSIX compliant find you can say find -X . -name "*.c" -print | ... which is more portible, as it is supposed to work everywhere... Warner From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Tue Oct 17 02:06:46 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA29218 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:06:46 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA14550; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:07:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <192360-2>; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:08:03 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA08007; Mon, 16 Oct 95 21:15:16 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA07571; Mon, 16 Oct 95 21:15:18 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510170115.AA07571@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Oily report To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:15:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510161325.OAA12357@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 16, 95 02:25:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1641 Lines: 38 > > something similar, I didn't write it down), and lastly, > > "sw0 received". > > I tried to track down the "sw0 received" message, but > > couldn't determine where it came from. > > > > It comes from the low level interrupt handler in > arch/mips/kernel/magnum4000.S and tells you that a software interrupt 0 > was received. Shouldn't happen, actually. Can you tell me a bit more > about your Magnum, ie. if it's a PC or SC machine, if it already has > labels at the rear panel connectors etc.? Not that I would be able > to say "Sure! That's it!" but it might be helpful to figure out if > there are perhaps different versions of Magnums out there. I don't > believe so, but who knows... > > Cheers, > Andy Here's the specs (as far as I can determine) from my Magnum 4000. The label on the front say "Mips ARCSystem, Magnum 4000 PC-50". It's in a typical gray metal desktop casing with a plastic fascia. Floppy is mounted vertically on the right side and there are two 5 1/4" bays to the left of the floppy. On the back, everything is very neatly labelled with what appears to be stick-on plastic. On the bottom right on the back of the machine there is a small white barcode sticker which I assume is the serial number, which says "EE02294". It has two serial ports, one 25 pin, one 9 pin, thick ethernet connection, and audio/mouse connections. Video is a rather odd wide connector that has three large round connectors within, as well as several smaller pins. -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 17 08:38:20 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA03834 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:38:19 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21005; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:38:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA08655 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:39:02 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA17133; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:38:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:38:12 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510170738.IAA17133@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <9510170115.AA07571@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1412 Lines: 35 Hi again, > > Here's the specs (as far as I can determine) from my > Magnum 4000. The label on the front say "Mips ARCSystem, > Magnum 4000 PC-50". It's in a typical gray metal desktop casing > with a plastic fascia. Floppy is mounted vertically on the right > side and there are two 5 1/4" bays to the left of the floppy. > On the back, everything is very neatly labelled with what appears > [...] Ok, that's sounds familiar. Probably no FCC or VDE signs and other bells and whissles on the back, so one can assume that our Magnums are identical. So... The problem must be with your keyboard(s). I suggest to add some debug code in the keyboard driver so that we can see what really happens. Also increase the timeouts. Paolo, you reported problems with your keyboard too a while ago. I don't remember if you tried with the RiscOs bootloader or with the ARCS Bios. Could you please verify this again, and perhaps also try to boot a Linux kernel so that we can find out what happens? If you don't find the time to build a kernel, let me know. I'll upload a binary to FNET then. Thanks, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 17 20:00:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA01457 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:00:58 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA12761; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:01:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA27033 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:01:00 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA22822; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:00:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:00:08 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510171900.UAA22822@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <9510172001.ZM1989@black.uni.net> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 538 Lines: 19 Hi again, > > Yes, i found that Magnum doesn't like all keyboards, and also was useful to > plug in a mouse too. If you can upload a binary kernel that would be welcome, > thanks! > Ok, comes rsn. I'll let you know. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From pab@black.uni.net Tue Oct 17 19:57:08 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00637 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 19:57:06 +0100 Received: from black.uni.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA12638; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 19:57:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pab@localhost) by black.uni.net (8.7/8.7) id UAA01987 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:01:59 +0100 (MET) From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <9510172001.ZM1989@black.uni.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:01:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: Andreas Busse "Re: Oily report" (Oct 17, 8:38am) References: <199510170738.IAA17133@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 626 Lines: 16 On Oct 17, 8:38am, Andreas Busse wrote: > ... > > Paolo, you reported problems with your keyboard too a while > ago. I don't remember if you tried with the RiscOs bootloader > or with the ARCS Bios. Could you please verify this again, > and perhaps also try to boot a Linux kernel so that we can find > out what happens? If you don't find the time to build a kernel, > let me know. I'll upload a binary to FNET then. > ... >-- End of excerpt from Andreas Busse Yes, i found that Magnum doesn't like all keyboards, and also was useful to plug in a mouse too. If you can upload a binary kernel that would be welcome, thanks! From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 17 20:26:07 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA02041 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:26:06 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13251; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:26:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA27696 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:26:49 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA22922; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:25:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:25:57 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510171925.UAA22922@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oily report In-Reply-To: <9510172001.ZM1989@black.uni.net> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 931 Lines: 26 > > Yes, i found that Magnum doesn't like all keyboards, and also was useful to > plug in a mouse too. If you can upload a binary kernel that would be welcome, > thanks! > So. I've uploaded a kernel image, a binary of the latest Milo (including the Magnum speedup) and a rootdisk image to ftp.fnet.fr. Write both vmlinux and milo onto a Messy-Dog floppy and dd the rootdisk image onto another floppy. The rest should be well-known :-) Luc or Stoned, could you please move the files into the private/Incoming directory? I don't want to make this stuff public available since it's just to check the keyboard. Thanks, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 18 07:18:53 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA10958 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:18:52 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26039; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:19:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA19220 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:19:03 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA27416; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:18:10 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:18:10 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510180618.HAA27416@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <199510172336.AAA13986@malcolm.rmnet.it> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 658 Lines: 22 Hi all, > > Hello, > My box loads this OK, no keyboard problems. Actually, i can even input to ash! > I'm using a cheap kbd with a PS/2 adapter. > thanks for checking, Paolo! David, could you please try with this kernel binary too? Just to make sure that your problem does not depend on some compiler/linker or configuration problems. Thanks, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Thu Oct 19 00:56:20 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA26953 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 00:56:20 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19878; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 00:57:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <192234-2>; Wed, 18 Oct 1995 19:57:29 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA05735; Wed, 18 Oct 95 20:05:08 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA26395; Wed, 18 Oct 95 20:05:08 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510190005.AA26395@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 20:05:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510180618.HAA27416@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 18, 95 07:18:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 906 Lines: 27 > David, could you please try with this kernel binary too? Just > to make sure that your problem does not depend on some compiler/linker > or configuration problems. > > Thanks, > Andy OK! The binaries you provided work perfectly. No keyboard problems whatsoever. I guess the problem is in how I'm compiling things. The milo speed improvements are welcome too! Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) - Machine the compiler is running on is a Pentium-90 running various 1.3.x kernels. - Only machine enabled in kernel config is Magnum4000. - Compile runs fine and links fine, no warnings/errors. - Produced kernel boots fine, but has the known keyboard problem. Is there something I'm missing, or doing wrong here? David Kerry From pab@interbusiness.it Thu Oct 19 01:19:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA27246 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 01:19:34 +0100 Received: from interbusiness.it ([151.99.250.2]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20474; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 01:20:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from pag ([194.20.98.41]) by interbusiness.it (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id BAA14049 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 01:18:20 +0100 From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <951019011756.ZM4799@pag> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 01:17:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: "David Kerry" "Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11" (Oct 18, 8:05pm) References: <9510190005.AA26395@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 452 Lines: 14 On Oct 18, 8:05pm, David Kerry wrote: > ... > Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: > > - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) > - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr > - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) > ... I just hope we can soon decide what compiler and kernel base should be used for further development. I can't excluse that when this will be settled i can spend some time into it :) /pab From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 19 13:06:47 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA07176 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:06:47 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03935; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:07:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA11251 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:07:28 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510191207.NAA11251@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:07:27 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510190005.AA26395@silver.sni.CA> from "David Kerry" at Oct 18, 95 08:05:07 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 990 Lines: 32 Hi, > > David, could you please try with this kernel binary too? Just > > to make sure that your problem does not depend on some compiler/linker > > or configuration problems. > > > OK! The binaries you provided work perfectly. No keyboard > problems whatsoever. I guess the problem is in how I'm compiling things. > The milo speed improvements are welcome too! > > Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: > > - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) The uploaded GCC 2.7.0 works fine also; upgrading to 2.7.0 is not necessary. > - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr > - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) Fine, as it should be. > - Machine the compiler is running on > is a Pentium-90 running various 1.3.x kernels. Hey, wanna swap against my 486-33 ;-? > - Only machine enabled in kernel config is Magnum4000. > - Compile runs fine and links fine, no warnings/errors. What - no warning? Something must be wrong ;-) Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 19 13:26:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA07415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:26:58 +0100 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04428; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:27:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via EUnet-France id AA27288; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:19:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA11290 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:10:34 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510191210.NAA11290@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:10:33 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <951019011756.ZM4799@pag> from "Paolo Bevilacqua" at Oct 19, 95 01:17:50 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 632 Lines: 20 Hi, > On Oct 18, 8:05pm, David Kerry wrote: > > ... > > Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: > > > > - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) > > - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr > > - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) > > ... > > I just hope we can soon decide what compiler and kernel base should be > used for further development. I can't excluse that when this will be > settled i can spend some time into it :) It's your choice to use GCC 2.6.3 or GCC 2.7.0. I'm still working on the kernel but have patch 35 running at home, so the days of 1.2 are limited. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Thu Oct 19 17:19:22 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA10258 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 17:19:21 +0100 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10610; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 17:20:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via EUnet-France id AA14051; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 17:01:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA12804 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:55:22 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510191555.QAA12804@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Linux 1.3.34 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:55:21 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 534 Lines: 19 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, this is yet another patch. I've reworked the floppy driver to be a bit more clean and easier portable and will send patches to Linus. The patch will be available from ftp.fnet.fr as usual. Ralf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBMIaA8Uckbl6vezDBAQH9mAP/bp3u3Wd8ba/P10OXs86t7rFMDRo2nM3O +VfkzX2bxEMw1ekbFH6vBHpli+dUmcKxVnPQLtZZ2f60ob3hZBTh1E3jgTNItsZf dsaO91pzzYPNLuuEnR78pxFaGLUi6YBe6gkhr4/KY+v5WlolTjs/eplYclAzg59c HelnkwiAeD0= =eC6J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 09:38:43 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22667 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:38:43 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29370; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:39:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA22057 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:39:21 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA18929; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:38:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:38:29 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510200838.JAA18929@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <9510190005.AA26395@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1407 Lines: 43 Hi all, > > OK! The binaries you provided work perfectly. No keyboard > problems whatsoever. I guess the problem is in how I'm compiling things. Interesting! > The milo speed improvements are welcome too! I can imagine :-) BTW, I'd like to release a new Milo source tree but wait for patches. Warner, Stoned, Ralf -- didn't you want to send me patches ? :-) > > Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: > > - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) > - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr > - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) > - Machine the compiler is running on > is a Pentium-90 running various 1.3.x kernels. > > - Only machine enabled in kernel config is Magnum4000. > - Compile runs fine and links fine, no warnings/errors. > - Produced kernel boots fine, but has the known > keyboard problem. > The only difference is that I moved to gcc-2.7.0-2 and binutils 2.5.2-6, but the keyboard worked also with previous cross compilers. Did you build the compiler yourself, or are you using the binary release? Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 09:40:27 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22727 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:40:26 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29432; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:41:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA22088 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:41:07 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA18934; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:40:16 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:40:16 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510200840.JAA18934@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <951019011756.ZM4799@pag> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 661 Lines: 20 Hi again, > I just hope we can soon decide what compiler and kernel base should be > used for further development. I can't excluse that when this will be > settled i can spend some time into it :) 100% agreed. I also hate these hunting updates. Anyone able to release a binary gcc/binutils distribution again? Or is this my job again ? :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 09:43:01 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22775 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:43:00 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29463; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:43:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA22142 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:43:48 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA18948; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:42:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:42:56 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510200842.JAA18948@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <199510191210.NAA11290@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 694 Lines: 20 > > It's your choice to use GCC 2.6.3 or GCC 2.7.0. I'm still working on > the kernel but have patch 35 running at home, so the days of 1.2 are > limited. > No, I cannot agree with that. If you really want to track down problems you can't say that it's someone's choice to use either this or that compiler. Or can you guarantee that the generated code is 100% identical ? Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 10:23:57 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA23248 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:23:57 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00531; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:24:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA23476 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:24:37 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA19082; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:23:44 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:23:44 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510200923.KAA19082@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Systems 95 show in Munich X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 2217 Lines: 57 Hi all, back from the Systems 95 show in Munich I have some interesting news for you. First the bad ones: a) ACER Europe isn't interested in Linux/MIPS for their PICA systems. Their Risc-based systems are only available in far east and, rather inofficially, in US. The man I talked to wasn't even able to give me a contact address. Doesn't matter, I know more than he :-) b) NEC Europe is aware of the fact that NEC Tokyo sells Risc (Mips) based systems, but they are not available or supported in Europe. Even more interesting, about 10-15% of the systems SNI sells are NEC boxes produced exclusively for SNI. The man I talked too will try to give me a contact address in Tokyo, but doesn't believe that there's much interest in Linux/MIPS. c) Silicon Graphics still denies any interest in Linux/MIPS. However, the project is well-known. Now the good ones: d) I really cannot confirm the statement that Linux isn't well-known. Everyone I talked too, even those who are not interested, did know about Linux. e) Taataaaa!!! SNI (Siemens/Nixdorf) will officially support Linux/MIPS. I talked to whole bunch of SNI suits, in order of "importance": the Director of Business Midrange Products Management, the Midrange Systems Product Sales Manager, the Director of the Sales Partner Support Department and the Project Manager of the Telecommunication Services Department. They are all highly interested in Linux/MIPS, although they never heard about this port. Actually, they believed that /pub/Linux/ALPHA means DEC Alpha, not "less than beta". Perhaps Sunsite should rename this directory :-) Anyway, they promised to provide us some hardware (at least a RM200 box with ram and HD), full technical support via email and telephone hotline and access to their ftp and web sites, where we can place the Linux/MIPS archive too. Well, isn't that good news? Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 20 11:08:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA23759 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:08:59 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01471; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:08:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA04932 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:06:58 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510201006.LAA04932@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA14206; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:07:16 +0100 Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:07:15 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510200923.KAA19082@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 10:23:44 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1824 Lines: 47 Hi all, > back from the Systems 95 show in Munich I have some interesting > news for you. First the bad ones: > > a) ACER Europe isn't interested in Linux/MIPS for their PICA > systems. Their Risc-based systems are only available in > far east and, rather inofficially, in US. > The man I talked to wasn't even able to give me a contact > address. Doesn't matter, I know more than he :-) How interesting - I talked to them, too. At least I got an email address :-) Of course in Taiwan ... > b) NEC Europe is aware of the fact that NEC Tokyo sells Risc > (Mips) based systems, but they are not available or supported > in Europe. Even more interesting, about 10-15% of the systems > SNI sells are NEC boxes produced exclusively for SNI. > The man I talked too will try to give me a contact address > in Tokyo, but doesn't believe that there's much interest > in Linux/MIPS. > > c) Silicon Graphics still denies any interest in Linux/MIPS. > However, the project is well-known. > > Now the good ones: > > d) I really cannot confirm the statement that Linux isn't > well-known. Everyone I talked too, even those who are > not interested, did know about Linux. Even Linus agrees that Linux isn't to well known. > e) Taataaaa!!! > > SNI (Siemens/Nixdorf) will officially support Linux/MIPS. > I talked to whole bunch of SNI suits, in order of "importance": > the Director of Business Midrange Products Management, > the Midrange Systems Product Sales Manager, > the Director of the Sales Partner Support Department and > the Project Manager of the Telecommunication Services Department. Gosh ... I didn't even dare to talk to them 'cause I was almost shure that such a 'serious' company wouldn't be interested in Linux. Happy to see that my assumption is wrong. Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 20 11:11:40 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA23827 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:11:40 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01579; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:11:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05109 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:10:07 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510201010.LAA05109@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA14227; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:10:26 +0100 Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:10:26 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510200842.JAA18948@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 09:42:56 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 384 Lines: 12 Hi, > No, I cannot agree with that. If you really want to track down > problems you can't say that it's someone's choice to use either > this or that compiler. Or can you guarantee that the generated > code is 100% identical ? I would be a sad fact if it IS identical. The only thing that is shure is that 2.7.x has better MIPS support, better optimization and less bugs. Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 20 11:13:06 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA23867 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:13:06 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01625; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:13:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05238 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:11:30 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510201011.LAA05238@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA14235; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:11:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:11:48 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510200840.JAA18934@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 09:40:16 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 431 Lines: 13 Hi again, > > I just hope we can soon decide what compiler and kernel base should be > > used for further development. I can't excluse that when this will be > > settled i can spend some time into it :) > > 100% agreed. I also hate these hunting updates. Anyone able to > release a binary gcc/binutils distribution again? Or is this > my job again ? :-) Probably yes as I cannot compile a.out executables anymore. Ralf From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 20 11:16:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA23915 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:16:33 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01669; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:16:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05305 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:14:24 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510201014.LAA05305@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA14251; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:14:43 +0100 Subject: Binutils To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:14:42 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 307 Lines: 8 Hi all, good news about the shared library support for the GNU binutils: Someone in Japan who has also ported HURD to MIPS has a toolset that generates "SGI compatible" shared libraries. So the days of 200k ash-s are counted. The only problem is that the shared library image will have ~2mb ... Ralf From linux@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Fri Oct 20 11:24:56 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA24038 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:24:56 +0100 Received: from kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01920; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:25:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA26725 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:25:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199510201025.LAA26725@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:23:44 +0100." <199510200923.KAA19082@newton.soft-n-hard.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:25:24 +0100 From: Mister Linux Content-Length: 2049 Lines: 73 Hi, > > c) Silicon Graphics still denies any interest in Linux/MIPS. > However, the project is well-known. Guess who is SGI's German distributor: SNI ;-) > = > Now the good ones: > = = > e) Taataaaa!!! > = > SNI (Siemens/Nixdorf) will officially support Linux/MIPS. > I talked to whole bunch of SNI suits, in order of "importance": > the Director of Business Midrange Products Management, > the Midrange Systems Product Sales Manager, > the Director of the Sales Partner Support Department and > the Project Manager of the Telecommunication Services Department. > = > They are all highly interested in Linux/MIPS, although they never > heard about this port. Actually, they believed that /pub/Linux/ALPHA Maybe you should spread the word? Here are some suggestions: * Contact Linux International: = li@li.org * Contact The Linux Publicity Project: http://babar.mit.edu/LPP/forms/Mail_Form.html * Write an article for iX magazine: Harald Milz will most likely be glad to accept it (besides you will get= money for it as well ;-). > means DEC Alpha, not "less than beta". Perhaps Sunsite should rename > this directory :-) That's the reason why U-Mainz has all stuff in arch directories and the ALPHA/BETA stuff in a directory called devel. Maybe a common 'Linux FTP Archive Structure' should be discussed? > Anyway, they promised to provide us some hardware (at least a > RM200 box with ram and HD), full technical support via email and > telephone hotline and access to their ftp and web sites, where > we can place the Linux/MIPS archive too. > = > Well, isn't that good news? It is indeed! Seems like our RM400 Oracle server is idleing lately, maybe= i can find something to do for it :-)=3D) Cheers, Dominik +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'Mr. Linux' is responsible for the Linux area of the FTP-server of | | Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 12:05:18 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24511 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:17 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02905; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA26536 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:56 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA19303; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:03 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201105.MAA19303@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Binutils In-Reply-To: <199510201014.LAA05305@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 659 Lines: 19 Hi, > > good news about the shared library support for the GNU binutils: Someone > in Japan who has also ported HURD to MIPS has a toolset that generates > "SGI compatible" shared libraries. So the days of 200k ash-s are counted. > The only problem is that the shared library image will have ~2mb ... > Time to get the SCSI stuff working :-) Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From pefo@enea.se Fri Oct 20 12:09:13 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24589 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:09:12 +0100 Received: from outside.enea.se by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02985; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:09:53 +0100 (MET) Received: by outside.enea.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA19514; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:07:50 +0100 Received: by outside via smap (V1.3) id sma019510; Fri Oct 20 13:07:28 1995 Received: (from pefo@localhost) by gordon.enea.se (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA27555; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:14 +0100 (MET) From: Per Fogelstrom Message-Id: <199510201105.MAA27555@gordon.enea.se> Subject: Re: Binutils To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:05:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Bechle) In-Reply-To: <199510201014.LAA05305@infko.uni-koblenz.de> from "Systemkennung Linux" at Oct 20, 95 11:14:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 366 Lines: 10 > > Hi all, > > good news about the shared library support for the GNU binutils: Someone > in Japan who has also ported HURD to MIPS has a toolset that generates > "SGI compatible" shared libraries. So the days of 200k ash-s are counted. > The only problem is that the shared library image will have ~2mb ... > So where is it, where is it!!! gimme gimme ..... From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 12:12:18 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24657 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:12:16 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA03109; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:12:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA26836 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:12:59 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA19322; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:12:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:12:07 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201112.MAA19322@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: <199510201025.LAA26725@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1861 Lines: 66 Hi all, > > Guess who is SGI's German distributor: SNI ;-) > No, that's wrong. SGI has a german branch in Munich, and without the help of a friend of me at SGI Munich, Linux/MIPS would never had been possible. But that's nothing official :-) > > > They are all highly interested in Linux/MIPS, although they never > > heard about this port. Actually, they believed that /pub/Linux/ALPHA > > Maybe you should spread the word? Here are some suggestions: > > * Contact Linux International: = > > > li@li.org > > * Contact The Linux Publicity Project: > > http://babar.mit.edu/LPP/forms/Mail_Form.html > > * Write an article for iX magazine: > > Harald Milz will most likely be glad to accept it (besides you will get= > > money for it as well ;-). > > > means DEC Alpha, not "less than beta". Perhaps Sunsite should rename > > this directory :-) > > That's the reason why U-Mainz has all stuff in arch directories and > the ALPHA/BETA stuff in a directory called devel. > > Maybe a common 'Linux FTP Archive Structure' should be discussed? > I think so. The current structures are sometimes confusing, if not frustrating. But it's actually a bit beyond our scope to reorganize the whole world :-) Anyway, thanks for your suggestions. I'll contact the people you mentioned. > > It is indeed! Seems like our RM400 Oracle server is idleing lately, maybe= > > i can find something to do for it :-)=3D) > Is it a 1 or 2 cpu box? You know, Linux/MIPS has not very much SMP support :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 20 13:35:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25708 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:35:16 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04847; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:36:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id NAA13871; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:35:19 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id NAA21779; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:35:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199510201135.NAA21779@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Binutils In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:14:42 BST." <199510201014.LAA05305@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:34:56 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 497 Lines: 14 >>>>> "Ralf" == Systemkennung Linux writes: Ralf> Hi all, good news about the shared library support for the GNU Ralf> binutils: Someone in Japan who has also ported HURD to MIPS has Hurd for the MIPS, I want it, I want it !!!! :) Ralf> a toolset that generates "SGI compatible" shared libraries. So Ralf> the days of 200k ash-s are counted. The only problem is that Ralf> the shared library image will have ~2mb ... Time to put more RAM.... Cheers, Stoned. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 20 13:37:41 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25748 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:37:40 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04905; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:38:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id NAA13879; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:38:26 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id NAA21789; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:38:11 +0200 Message-Id: <199510201138.NAA21789@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:11:48 BST." <199510201011.LAA05238@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:38:05 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 354 Lines: 11 >>>>> "Ralf" == Systemkennung Linux writes: [SNIP] Ralf> Probably yes as I cannot compile a.out executables anymore. Hum, what about -b i386-linuxaout Ralf ?? Well I got an ELF gcc 2.7.0-2 and binutils 2.5.2-6 crossdev suite, perhaps I can make a compil in a.out.... Monday, it will be on ftp.fnet.fr Cheers, Stoned. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 20 13:40:53 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25837 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:40:53 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05007; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:41:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id NAA13890; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:41:33 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id NAA21808; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:41:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199510201141.NAA21808@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:23:44 BST." <199510200923.KAA19082@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:41:10 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 655 Lines: 14 >>>>> "Andy" == Andreas Busse writes: [SNIP] Andy> They are all highly interested in Linux/MIPS, although they Andy> never heard about this port. Actually, they believed that Andy> /pub/Linux/ALPHA means DEC Alpha, not "less than beta". Perhaps Andy> Sunsite should rename this directory :-) Anyway, they promised Andy> to provide us some hardware (at least a RM200 box with ram and Andy> HD), full technical support via email and telephone hotline and Andy> access to their ftp and web sites, where we can place the Andy> Linux/MIPS archive too. Hum,... you mean move the Linux/MIPS FTP reference site to SNI ??? Cheers, Stoned. From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 13:16:31 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25436 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:16:30 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04495; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:17:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA28847 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:17:02 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA19455; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:16:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:16:08 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201216.NAA19455@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: <199510201006.LAA04932@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1069 Lines: 36 > > How interesting - I talked to them, too. At least I got an email > address :-) Of course in Taiwan ... > Well, it always depends on the one with you talk with. Anyway, who is that in Taiwan? > > Even Linus agrees that Linux isn't to well known. > Seems he's wrong. Really, I never heard "No, sorry, what is Linux???". > > Gosh ... I didn't even dare to talk to them 'cause I was almost shure > that such a 'serious' company wouldn't be interested in Linux. Happy > to see that my assumption is wrong. > The important thing was that I met one of the SNI people while I was checking out of the hotel. We were both asking for a taxi to the show but then found that it would be better to share one. Well, that's the story :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From jens@jens1.whu-koblenz.de Fri Oct 20 13:33:49 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25671 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:33:44 +0100 Received: from obelix.WHU-Koblenz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA04825; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:33:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from jens1.whu-koblenz.de (jens@jens1.WHU-Koblenz.DE [193.141.48.51]) by obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA17273 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:33:55 +0100 Received: (from jens@localhost) by jens1.whu-koblenz.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA18078 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:30:19 +0100 From: Jens Hoffmann Message-Id: <199510201230.NAA18078@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:30:16 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510200923.KAA19082@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 10:23:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1301 Lines: 41 Hi Andy and all! > e) Taataaaa!!! > SNI (Siemens/Nixdorf) will officially support Linux/MIPS. > I talked to whole bunch of SNI suits, in order of "importance": > the Director of Business Midrange Products Management, > the Midrange Systems Product Sales Manager, > the Director of the Sales Partner Support Department and > the Project Manager of the Telecommunication Services Department. Great. I like the SNI-Suits :) > They are all highly interested in Linux/MIPS, although they never > heard about this port. Actually, they believed that /pub/Linux/ALPHA > means DEC Alpha, not "less than beta". Perhaps Sunsite should rename > this directory :-) > Anyway, they promised to provide us some hardware (at least a > RM200 box with ram and HD), full technical support via email and > telephone hotline and access to their ftp and web sites, where > we can place the Linux/MIPS archive too. Fantastic! Where will this baby be housed? (hint, hint) I am curretnly installing (wurg) WIN 95, cause I am supposed to write some ISDN-Stuff. Perhaps I can do a port of the Linux-ISDN systems (I have to look at them anyway :)) > Well, isn't that good news? It is fantastic news :) What was the main interest of the telecommunications-tie? Greetings, Jens (Yeah, I am still listening :)) From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 13:40:29 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25816 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:40:29 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05000; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:41:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA29632 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:41:09 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA19545; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:40:16 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:40:16 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201240.NAA19545@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: <199510201230.NAA18078@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1120 Lines: 32 Hi, > > Fantastic! Where will this baby be housed? (hint, hint) > I am curretnly installing (wurg) WIN 95, cause I am supposed to write > some ISDN-Stuff. Perhaps I can do a port of the Linux-ISDN systems > (I have to look at them anyway :)) Not sure yet. My time is very, very limited but at least I'll try to do the very first steps. That is, make Milo working, setup the TLB init stuff, hack a console driver and such things. After that I'll be glad if someone else could take care of that baby, but I must be sure that it's someone who's really hot on working on and for this box. > > What was the main interest of the telecommunications-tie? > I'm not sure. He asked several times if we're really using GCC... Perhaps they are not very satisfied with the Mips compiler. Don't know... Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 13:53:21 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25994 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:53:21 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA05309; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:54:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA00041 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:54:04 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA19578; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:53:12 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:53:12 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201253.NAA19578@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: <199510201141.NAA21808@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 433 Lines: 15 > > Hum,... you mean move the Linux/MIPS FTP reference site to SNI ??? > No, but they can mirror ftp.fnet.fr :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From linux@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Fri Oct 20 14:32:34 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA26459 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:32:33 +0100 Received: from kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06048; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:33:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA20290; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:33:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199510201333.OAA20290@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:12:07 +0100." <199510201112.MAA19322@newton.soft-n-hard.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:33:04 +0100 From: Mister Linux Content-Length: 1463 Lines: 48 > = > Hi all, > = > > = > > Guess who is SGI's German distributor: SNI ;-) > > = > = > No, that's wrong. SGI has a german branch in Munich, and > without the help of a friend of me at SGI Munich, Linux/MIPS > would never had been possible. But that's nothing official :-) Correct. But SNI is distributing SGI machines in Germany for them. We bought our Indigo's, Indy's and PowerChallenge thru SNI. > = > I think so. The current structures are sometimes confusing, if > not frustrating. But it's actually a bit beyond our scope to > reorganize the whole world :-) I will contact Ted and Erik and try to work something out. For Germany there is allready a mailing-list in place to coordinate FTP-Archives... (also it somehow has never worked, at least i haven't got any mail for over one year.) > = > Is it a 1 or 2 cpu box? You know, Linux/MIPS has not very much > SMP support :-) Even better: it is in fact a RM600 with 2 CPU's and 512 MB RAM ... But i don't think i will be able to get my hands on it ... SNIFF... But i promise you: one of our DECstations due to be replaced with AlphaPC's will be revived as Linux/MIPS if possible! Cheers, Dominik +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'Mr. Linux' is responsible for the Linux area of the FTP-server of | | Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 20 16:51:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA28130 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:51:33 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA09752; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:52:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id QAA14671; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:52:15 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id QAA22269; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:52:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199510201452.QAA22269@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:34:13 EDT." <9510201534.AA17051@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:51:53 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 749 Lines: 22 Hi, >>>>> "David" == David Kerry writes: [SNIP] David> I'm using only the binary releases at the moment, but I'm David> attempting to re-compile the 2.7.0 with the supplied patch, David> however it keeps bombing out when it tries to build what looks David> like a big-endian libsomething. I think the problem is that David> the binutils from fnet.fr do not support big-endian, so I'm David> going to re-compile the binutils first, then try gcc again. binaries on fnet.fr are mipsel-* so for little end of eggs :) David> When I configure gcc, should I be generating ELF output, or David> just leave it as the default? (ie: Should I be generating ELF David> Linux/MIPS executables?) Default, so Linux's a.out Cheers, Stoned. From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Oct 20 16:07:09 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27538 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:07:09 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA08232; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:07:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA30475 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:06:14 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201506.QAA30475@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Binutils To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:06:13 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201135.NAA21779@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 20, 95 01:34:56 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 550 Lines: 17 > > >>>>> "Ralf" == Systemkennung Linux writes: > > Ralf> Hi all, good news about the shared library support for the GNU > Ralf> binutils: Someone in Japan who has also ported HURD to MIPS has > > Hurd for the MIPS, I want it, I want it !!!! :) > > Ralf> a toolset that generates "SGI compatible" shared libraries. So > Ralf> the days of 200k ash-s are counted. The only problem is that > Ralf> the shared library image will have ~2mb ... > > Time to put more RAM.... Time to buy an ED disk drive ... Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Oct 20 16:12:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27625 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:12:59 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA08369; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:13:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA30490 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:08:31 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201508.QAA30490@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:08:31 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201138.NAA21789@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 20, 95 01:38:05 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 356 Lines: 11 Hi, > Ralf> Probably yes as I cannot compile a.out executables anymore. > > Hum, what about -b i386-linuxaout Ralf ?? Well I got an ELF gcc 2.7.0-2 > and binutils 2.5.2-6 crossdev suite, perhaps I can make a compil in > a.out.... Monday, it will be on ftp.fnet.fr No more a.out libs and headers installed ... OK, I'll brew these bits again .. Ralf From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 20 17:09:31 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA28366 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:09:30 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10255; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:10:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id RAA14691; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:09:30 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id RAA22330; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:09:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199510201509.RAA22330@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:51:53 +0200." <199510201452.QAA22269@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:09:12 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 379 Lines: 14 hi again, >>>>> "Stoned" == Stoned Elipot writes: [SNIP] Stoned> binaries on fnet.fr are mipsel-* so for little end of eggs :) BTW, the libc should be recompiled in big-endian, shouldn't it ? Stoned. --- PS/ Paul (paul@suite.sw.oz.au) told me that he got stuff for DEC but due to mailing list problems (Luc is working on it) he's unable to speak here.... :( From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Fri Oct 20 16:13:22 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27654 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:13:21 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA08376; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:14:01 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA30520 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:11:47 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201511.QAA30520@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:11:47 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201230.NAA18078@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> from "Jens Hoffmann" at Oct 20, 95 01:30:16 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 588 Lines: 16 Hi, > > Anyway, they promised to provide us some hardware (at least a > > RM200 box with ram and HD), full technical support via email and > > telephone hotline and access to their ftp and web sites, where > > we can place the Linux/MIPS archive too. > > Fantastic! Where will this baby be housed? (hint, hint) > I am curretnly installing (wurg) WIN 95, cause I am supposed to write > some ISDN-Stuff. Perhaps I can do a port of the Linux-ISDN systems > (I have to look at them anyway :)) Bad news for you: the ISDN stuff looks pretty portable; nothing to do but compile ... Ralf From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Fri Oct 20 16:25:28 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27803 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:25:28 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA08799; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:26:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <191992-2>; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:26:37 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA06310; Fri, 20 Oct 95 11:34:13 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA17051; Fri, 20 Oct 95 11:34:14 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510201534.AA17051@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:34:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510200838.JAA18929@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 09:38:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1308 Lines: 37 > > > > Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: > > > > - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) > > - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr > > - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) > > - Machine the compiler is running on > > is a Pentium-90 running various 1.3.x kernels. > > > > - Only machine enabled in kernel config is Magnum4000. > > - Compile runs fine and links fine, no warnings/errors. > > - Produced kernel boots fine, but has the known > > keyboard problem. > > > > The only difference is that I moved to gcc-2.7.0-2 and binutils > 2.5.2-6, but the keyboard worked also with previous cross compilers. > Did you build the compiler yourself, or are you using the binary > release? > > Cheers, > Andy I'm using only the binary releases at the moment, but I'm attempting to re-compile the 2.7.0 with the supplied patch, however it keeps bombing out when it tries to build what looks like a big-endian libsomething. I think the problem is that the binutils from fnet.fr do not support big-endian, so I'm going to re-compile the binutils first, then try gcc again. When I configure gcc, should I be generating ELF output, or just leave it as the default? (ie: Should I be generating ELF Linux/MIPS executables?) Thanks, David From jens@jens1.whu-koblenz.de Fri Oct 20 17:04:14 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA28291 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:04:13 +0100 Received: from obelix.WHU-Koblenz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10082; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:04:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from jens1.whu-koblenz.de (jens@jens1.WHU-Koblenz.DE [193.141.48.51]) by obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA01171 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:05:05 +0100 Received: (from jens@localhost) by jens1.whu-koblenz.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA18380 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:01:28 +0100 From: Jens Hoffmann Message-Id: <199510201601.RAA18380@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:01:24 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201511.QAA30520@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Oct 20, 95 04:11:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1088 Lines: 32 Hi, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > Fantastic! Where will this baby be housed? (hint, hint) > > I am curretnly installing (wurg) WIN 95, cause I am supposed to write > > some ISDN-Stuff. Perhaps I can do a port of the Linux-ISDN systems > > (I have to look at them anyway :)) > Bad news for you: the ISDN stuff looks pretty portable; nothing to do > but compile ... :) Partly. As I need a CAPI, the ISDN-Stuffcan only be a starting point. But you are right, programmers doin ISDN are really working portable. I had a look into the SDK for AVM-cards. I really was astonished. MS-DOG Sources which can compile without changes in DOS, WIN16 and WIN32 mode :) a handful of #defines (_far, __far, near ans some other funny keywordsw) and the right header-files will do, if I had a CAPI, there would be not much left todo :) Actually, besides ISDN. My impression is, that the point is approaching, where _normal_ development ain't far away. I hereby renew my statement of interest for this project :) I am still not very keen on kernel-hacking but you'll know, what I can do:) Bye, Jens From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 18:36:53 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA29388 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:36:52 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13139; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:36:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA07857 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:37:35 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA20178; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:36:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:36:41 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201736.SAA20178@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <9510201534.AA17051@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1094 Lines: 30 > > I'm using only the binary releases at the moment, but I'm attempting > to re-compile the 2.7.0 with the supplied patch, however it keeps bombing > out when it tries to build what looks like a big-endian libsomething. > I think the problem is that the binutils from fnet.fr do not support > big-endian, so I'm going to re-compile the binutils first, then > try gcc again. Right. You need binutils-2.5.2-6 to build gcc-2.7.0. I had the same trouble :-) > > When I configure gcc, should I be generating ELF output, or > just leave it as the default? (ie: Should I be generating ELF > Linux/MIPS executables?) Just configure it as --host=i486-linux --target=mipsel-linux and it will produce a.out binaries. ELF isn't known to be working yet, so better use a.out. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 18:40:20 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA29456 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:40:20 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13372; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:40:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA07973 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:41:06 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA20190; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:40:10 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:40:10 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201740.SAA20190@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich In-Reply-To: <199510201601.RAA18380@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 874 Lines: 24 > > My impression is, that the point is approaching, where _normal_ > development ain't far away. > > I hereby renew my statement of interest for this project :) > I am still not very keen on kernel-hacking but you'll know, what I can do:) > Well, the whole project lacks of documentation. Also (if you have a *real* computer now :-)) binary distributions of compilers, linkers etc. are always welcome. Ask Stefan if he plans to work on Linux/MIPS, otherwise there's a spare Olivetti box. BTW, Stefan unsubscribed, so you need to mail him directly. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 20 18:41:15 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA29493 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:41:15 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13439; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:41:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA07980 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:42:05 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA20198; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:41:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:41:09 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510201741.SAA20198@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <199510201509.RAA22330@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 449 Lines: 15 > > BTW, the libc should be recompiled in big-endian, shouldn't it ? > Yes, it's compiled for both endianesses. Good feature, I believe. Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Sat Oct 21 11:18:06 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12350 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:06 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01205; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:53 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA31725 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:17:00 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201917.UAA31725@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Binutils To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:16:59 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201105.MAA19303@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 12:05:03 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 424 Lines: 14 > Hi, > > > > > good news about the shared library support for the GNU binutils: Someone > > in Japan who has also ported HURD to MIPS has a toolset that generates > > "SGI compatible" shared libraries. So the days of 200k ash-s are counted. > > The only problem is that the shared library image will have ~2mb ... > > > > Time to get the SCSI stuff working :-) Wonderful! A victim^H^H^H^H^Holunteer! Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Sat Oct 21 11:18:10 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12377 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:10 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01208; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA31760 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:23:00 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201923.UAA31760@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:23:00 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201112.MAA19322@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 12:12:07 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 462 Lines: 16 Hi, > > It is indeed! Seems like our RM400 Oracle server is idleing lately, maybe= > > > > i can find something to do for it :-)=3D) > > > > Is it a 1 or 2 cpu box? You know, Linux/MIPS has not very much > SMP support :-) Guess which chapters in the R4000 manual I've read over and over again :-) Gimme a box and I'll teach that pig fly. (Famous last words ...) Ralf PS: Though I'd be even happier if I'd have a box on which my compiler'd fly ... From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Sat Oct 21 11:17:50 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12295 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:17:49 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01196; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA31791 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:30:26 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201930.UAA31791@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:30:25 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201509.RAA22330@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 20, 95 05:09:12 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 676 Lines: 17 Hi again, > > >>>>> "Stoned" == Stoned Elipot writes: > [SNIP] > Stoned> binaries on fnet.fr are mipsel-* so for little end of eggs :) > > BTW, the libc should be recompiled in big-endian, shouldn't it ? Basically you're right but I hope by the time when a big endian machine tries to run Linux these libc is really obsolete. I've got a port of HJ's libc 5.0.9 for ELF on my home machine and a two days old snapshot of the glibc which is known to be working on MIPS machines and on Linux/i386. So it's port will be very easy. Though I won't release them before I tested them much more. Oh, ... both support shared libs using the ELF format :-) Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Sat Oct 21 11:18:04 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12339 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:03 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01202; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA31804 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:36:50 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201936.UAA31804@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:36:49 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510201534.AA17051@silver.sni.CA> from "David Kerry" at Oct 20, 95 11:34:13 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1770 Lines: 46 > > > > > > > Alright, here's what I'm using to compile things: > > > > > > - gcc 2.6.3 crossdev set from ftp.fnet.fr (binaries) > > > - libc4.6.27 and include4.6.27 from ftp.fnet.fr > > > - kernel v1.2.11.2 (also from ftp.fnet.fr) > > > - Machine the compiler is running on > > > is a Pentium-90 running various 1.3.x kernels. > > > > > > - Only machine enabled in kernel config is Magnum4000. > > > - Compile runs fine and links fine, no warnings/errors. > > > - Produced kernel boots fine, but has the known > > > keyboard problem. > > > > > > > The only difference is that I moved to gcc-2.7.0-2 and binutils > > 2.5.2-6, but the keyboard worked also with previous cross compilers. > > Did you build the compiler yourself, or are you using the binary > > release? > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > I'm using only the binary releases at the moment, but I'm attempting > to re-compile the 2.7.0 with the supplied patch, however it keeps bombing > out when it tries to build what looks like a big-endian libsomething. > I think the problem is that the binutils from fnet.fr do not support > big-endian, so I'm going to re-compile the binutils first, then > try gcc again. > > When I configure gcc, should I be generating ELF output, or > just leave it as the default? (ie: Should I be generating ELF > Linux/MIPS executables?) Use a.out output in little endian byte order. This mean to configure it with something like mipsel-linux. Not having a big endian machine (Hint: think I'd have a nice use for that RM200 ...) I could only verify the big endian output of the binutils by reading hexdumps. Though I don't really believe there is a byte order bug. What version of binutils are you using? The latest should be fine. Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Sat Oct 21 11:17:58 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12314 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:17:57 +0100 Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA01199; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA31811 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:38:07 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510201938.UAA31811@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 20:38:07 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201601.RAA18380@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> from "Jens Hoffmann" at Oct 20, 95 05:01:24 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 933 Lines: 25 > Hi, > > Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > > Fantastic! Where will this baby be housed? (hint, hint) > > > I am curretnly installing (wurg) WIN 95, cause I am supposed to write > > > some ISDN-Stuff. Perhaps I can do a port of the Linux-ISDN systems > > > (I have to look at them anyway :)) > > > Bad news for you: the ISDN stuff looks pretty portable; nothing to do > > but compile ... > > :) Partly. As I need a CAPI, the ISDN-Stuffcan only be a starting point. > But you are right, programmers doin ISDN are really working portable. > I had a look into the SDK for AVM-cards. > I really was astonished. > MS-DOG Sources which can compile without changes in DOS, WIN16 and WIN32 > mode :) > a handful of #defines (_far, __far, near ans some other funny keywordsw) > and the right header-files will do, > if I had a CAPI, there would be not much left todo :) Aside of all that - there are two ISDN packages for Linux ... Ralf From jens@jens1.whu-koblenz.de Sat Oct 21 12:34:07 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA13269 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:34:07 +0100 Received: from obelix.WHU-Koblenz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02439; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:34:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from jens1.whu-koblenz.de (jens@jens1.WHU-Koblenz.DE [193.141.48.51]) by obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA15079 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:35:03 +0100 Received: (from jens@localhost) by jens1.whu-koblenz.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA19542 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:31:23 +0100 From: Jens Hoffmann Message-Id: <199510211131.MAA19542@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:31:18 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510201740.SAA20190@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 20, 95 06:40:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1271 Lines: 33 Hi, Andreas Busse wrote: > > I hereby renew my statement of interest for this project :) > > I am still not very keen on kernel-hacking but you'll know, > > what I can do:) > Well, the whole project lacks of documentation. Also (if you > have a *real* computer now :-)) binary distributions of compilers, > linkers etc. are always welcome. Ask Stefan if he plans to work > on Linux/MIPS, otherwise there's a spare Olivetti box. BTW, Stefan > unsubscribed, so you need to mail him directly. My sweet little teenie weenie working machine gets a major upgrade this weekend. It'll jump from 386sx/64k/4MB to 486DX33/256k/4MB :) The point approaches, from where I can generate a kernel in less than 7h. Documentation sounds good, to me. Also configuring releases of the different tools :) But you are right, for the latter part,a MIPS BOX would come in handy. I think, during my next visit in Waldorf, I'll talk with Stefan. Greetings, Jens (RAh, did you know, that MS delivers the Developer Network on 29 CDs and has no single Compiler in it, besides one for PowerPC? DID you know, that WIN95 sometimes can't detect Media-Changes in the CD-Drive? DID you know, that the master-installer is not able to install needed packages in the right sequence? ) From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Sat Oct 21 18:14:16 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA17134 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:14:16 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA06901; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:13:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA04071 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:13:31 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510211713.SAA04071@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA15439; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:13:39 +0100 Subject: Re: Systems 95 show in Munich To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:13:37 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510211131.MAA19542@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> from "Jens Hoffmann" at Oct 21, 95 12:31:18 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 656 Lines: 16 Hi, > (RAh, did you know, that MS delivers the Developer Network on 29 CDs > and has no single Compiler in it, besides one for PowerPC? > DID you know, that WIN95 sometimes can't detect Media-Changes in the > CD-Drive? > DID you know, that the master-installer is not able to install needed > packages in the right sequence? ) Did you know that Win95 crashed again live on stage during the Systems? Just as before on several other shows. Think of Microsoft doing magic shows ... (Just trying to image Billy cutting someone into pieces life on stage [Oh sorry, the trick failed - but there will be another release in half a year ...]) Ralf From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Sat Oct 21 19:00:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA17686 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 19:00:16 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA07462; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 19:01:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <191492-3>; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:01:28 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA27586; Sat, 21 Oct 95 14:09:14 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA07546; Sat, 21 Oct 95 14:09:12 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510211809.AA07546@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:09:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510201936.UAA31804@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Oct 20, 95 08:36:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1117 Lines: 24 Ok, folks, update on my keyboard/kernel/gcc saga :-) Got sources to binutils-2.5.2 and applied patch 2.5.2-6, compiled and installed. Got sources to gcc2.7.0, applied patch 2.7.0-3, which now compiles without problems. Re-compiled kernel 1.2.11.2 with the new gcc and binutils. Lo-and-behold, no more keyboard problems! So, it seems that there was some mysterious problem with my gcc2.6.3 and binutils2.5.2. Anyways, it works now, so I went on a compiling spree and made fileutils and the SysV Init package. I had some limited success with the fileutils things; "ls" and "sync" work, but "mkdir" blew up :-) On another note, I attempted to track down the problem where the kernel will not boot get past asking for the root floppy with the mouse plugged in. After many printk statements, I discovered that it hangs in schedule() somewhere when called by sleep_on() while waiting for a keypress. Putting printks into schedule() to see exactly where it was hanging didn't work. It seems that the printks slow it down it enough to prevent the hang, and the kernel mounts the root floppy :-/ David Kerry From andy@soft-n-hard.de Sat Oct 21 20:00:28 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by pactole.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA18400 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:00:28 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA08322; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:01:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA19963 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:01:21 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA00048; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:00:24 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:00:24 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510211900.UAA00048@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Magnum + Kernel 1.2.11 In-Reply-To: <9510211809.AA07546@silver.sni.CA> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1935 Lines: 46 Hi all! > Ok, folks, update on my keyboard/kernel/gcc saga :-) > > Got sources to binutils-2.5.2 and applied patch 2.5.2-6, compiled > and installed. Got sources to gcc2.7.0, applied patch 2.7.0-3, which now > compiles without problems. Re-compiled kernel 1.2.11.2 with the new gcc > and binutils. Lo-and-behold, no more keyboard problems! > Congrats! > So, it seems that there was some mysterious problem with > my gcc2.6.3 and binutils2.5.2. Anyways, it works now, so I went > on a compiling spree and made fileutils and the SysV Init package. > I had some limited success with the fileutils things; "ls" and "sync" > work, but "mkdir" blew up :-) Hey, that's good news! I was dreaming of 'ls' and 'sync' but had no time to compile them yet. Can you upload the binaries, please ? > > On another note, I attempted to track down the problem > where the kernel will not boot get past asking for the root floppy > with the mouse plugged in. After many printk statements, I discovered > that it hangs in schedule() somewhere when called by sleep_on() while waiting > for a keypress. Putting printks into schedule() to see exactly where it > was hanging didn't work. It seems that the printks slow it down it enough > to prevent the hang, and the kernel mounts the root floppy :-/ > Oh, I love these "features". Although I really don't have an idea what this has to do with the mouse. I did not take care about mice yet (they are useless anyway at the moment) so I guess there's a bug somewhere in the mouse driver. It might help if you simply comment out any critical stuff there. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Tue Oct 24 17:50:14 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA04114 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:50:13 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23173; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:49:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193249-3>; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:50:10 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA20609; Tue, 24 Oct 95 12:57:59 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA28571; Tue, 24 Oct 95 12:58:00 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510241658.AA28571@silver.sni.CA> Subject: New file To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:57:59 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 680 Lines: 26 Hello all, I've compiled a small subset of the GNU fileutils for Linux/MIPS. Currently, it includes ls,rm,sync,touch,dd,du and a couple of others. Note that not all of these have been tested and may blow up in mysterious ways, but I know that ls works, mostly. Doing an "ls -l" will cause a panic/fault/coredump?, but just "ls" works fine. The binaries can be found at fnet.fr in private/Incoming/fileutils.tar.gz. The binaries are rather large, but can be stripped to conserve some precious floppy space. have fun... -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From "stc::stevens"@ampakz.ENET.dec.com Tue Oct 24 21:21:52 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06631 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:21:51 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA27955; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:21:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA04791 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:20:53 +0100 Received: from us2rmc.zko.dec.com by mail2.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA01810; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 13:13:41 -0700 Received: from ampakz.enet by us2rmc.zko.dec.com (5.65/rmc-22feb94) id AA07398; Tue, 24 Oct 95 16:10:41 -0400 Message-Id: <9510242010.AA07398@us2rmc.zko.dec.com> Received: from ampakz.enet; by us2rmc.enet; Tue, 24 Oct 95 16:10:46 EDT Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 16:10:46 EDT From: "Time flies like an Arrow, Fruit flies like a banana. 24-Oct-1995 1610" <"stc::stevens"@ampakz.ENET.dec.com> To: us2rmc::"linux@waldorf-gmbh.de"@ampakz.ENET.dec.com Apparently-To: linux@waldorf-gmbh.de Subject: Linux for ARC compliant MIPS Content-Length: 398 Lines: 12 >>This is MILO V0.22 -- a bootstrap loader for Linux/MIPS on >>ARC compliant systems. Please send comments, bug reports >>and so on to . Could you please give me more information about what machines this can be installed on? I am typing this on a Decstation 3100, and I would love to install Linux on this thing. Thanks, Kurt Stevens stc::stevens@ampakz.enet.dec.com From marius@prilnari.com Tue Oct 24 21:36:08 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06816 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:36:07 +0100 Received: from yakko.prilnari.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28239; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:35:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marius@localhost) by yakko.prilnari.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA02970; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:35:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messier To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: "linux@waldorf-gmbh.de"@ampakz.ENET.dec.com Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIP In-Reply-To: <9510242010.AA07398@us2rmc.zko.dec.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 783 Lines: 19 On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Time flies like an Arrow, Fruit flies like a banana. 24-Oct-1995 1610 wrote: > >>This is MILO V0.22 -- a bootstrap loader for Linux/MIPS on > >>ARC compliant systems. Please send comments, bug reports > >>and so on to . > > Could you please give me more information about what machines this can be > installed on? I am typing this on a Decstation 3100, and I would love to > install Linux on this thing. DECstations are not ARC compliant. A Linux port is in progress for DS3100/5000 but it is presently stuck at the boot loader stage. I ahve been trying to find time to work on it, but haven't been very successful lately. I'm not sure if anyone else is working on said beast. Matt Messier The Prilnari Project Lincoln, RI, USA From imp@rover.village.org Tue Oct 24 21:44:08 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06928 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:44:07 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28444; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:43:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA22035 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 14:43:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199510242043.OAA22035@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIP In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:35:50 EDT Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 14:43:56 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 660 Lines: 14 : DECstations are not ARC compliant. A Linux port is in progress for DS3100/5000 : but it is presently stuck at the boot loader stage. I ahve been trying to find : time to work on it, but haven't been very successful lately. I'm not sure if : anyone else is working on said beast. You've likely already thought about this, but have you considered using the boot loader from NetBSD? If it understands ufs (aka ffs) only (which is likely), then you could either boot off of a ffs partition for now, or use libe2fs. Heck, even MIPS/Linux is booting off of a FAT partition only at this time. Maybe you already are doing this, and I've missed it.... Warner From tiv@vma.bme.hu Tue Oct 24 21:50:43 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA07023 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:50:42 +0100 Received: from nic.bme.hu by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28633; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:50:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from euromath.vma.bme.hu (euromath.vma.bme.hu [152.66.83.1]) by nic.bme.hu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA20891 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:50:22 +0100 Received: (from tiv@localhost) by euromath.vma.bme.hu (8.6.10/8.6.9) id VAA13085; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:50:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:50:19 +0100 (MET) From: Szemethy Tivadar X-Sender: tiv@euromath To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 382 Lines: 10 Hi, > but it is presently stuck at the boot loader stage. I ahve been trying to find > time to work on it, but haven't been very successful lately. I'm not sure if > anyone else is working on said beast. I'm still willing to do it... But one has to earn living... :( I'll do it as soon as I can. I'm really sorry to say this, but currenty I'm unable to 'find the time'. tivadar From pefo@enea.se Tue Oct 24 23:27:27 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA08140 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:27:27 +0100 Received: from outside.enea.se (gateway.enea.se) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00256; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:27:10 +0100 (MET) Received: by outside.enea.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA32054 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:28:27 +0100 Received: by outside via smap (V1.3) id sma032052; Wed Oct 25 00:28:18 1995 Received: (from pefo@localhost) by gordon.enea.se (8.7.1/8.7.1) id XAA27263 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:26:01 +0100 (MET) From: Per Fogelstrom Message-Id: <199510242226.XAA27263@gordon.enea.se> Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIP To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:26:00 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510242043.OAA22035@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 24, 95 02:43:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 875 Lines: 16 > > : DECstations are not ARC compliant. A Linux port is in progress for DS3100/5000 > : but it is presently stuck at the boot loader stage. I ahve been trying to find > : time to work on it, but haven't been very successful lately. I'm not sure if > : anyone else is working on said beast. > > You've likely already thought about this, but have you considered > using the boot loader from NetBSD? If it understands ufs (aka ffs) > only (which is likely), then you could either boot off of a ffs > partition for now, or use libe2fs. Heck, even MIPS/Linux is booting > off of a FAT partition only at this time. > hmm, decstations pulls in the first 8kb of the hd as the boot loader. how this works can be learned from either Mach3.0 or NetBSD. also there is a definition of the prom interface. i belive the magnum is very similar to the decstation in this respect.... From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 14:51:39 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA22257 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:51:38 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17213; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:50:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA10699 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:49:25 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510251349.OAA10699@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA03428; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:49:03 +0100 Subject: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:49:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510241658.AA28571@silver.sni.CA> from "David Kerry" at Oct 24, 95 12:57:59 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1153 Lines: 24 Hi all, it finally happened! I got my RAM for the Olli (only took 6 months Grrr). Now to try and do something with it. Hmm, Ralf only left/put ancient garbage into the crossdev account I gave him here. So I'll have to grab stuff from an ftp site. No problem, already started. While I'm waiting for it to get here, I thought I'd install NT to make sure the Olli is working OK (alright, I admit I wanted to play around with it a bit too). Heres the problem: how do I get NT to boot? I have a system pool 3.5 server CD. Theres a mips directory on it. In there are 6 or so .exe files. Of these only one, arcinst.exe, actually starts. The others just give "bad image file" or similar. Am I missing a boot disk or something here? I probably don't want to install NT anyway but I hate it when things don't work :( Hurry up ftp ... Ciao -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 25 15:00:31 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA22435 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:00:28 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17367; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:58:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA07135 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:57:53 +0100 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA15912 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:58:32 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510251358.OAA15912@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPSoot@scotty To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:58:31 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510242010.AA07398@us2rmc.zko.dec.com> from "Time flies like an Arrow, Fruit flies like a banana. 24-Oct-1995 1610" at Oct 24, 95 04:10:46 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 462 Lines: 18 > > >>This is MILO V0.22 -- a bootstrap loader for Linux/MIPS on > >>ARC compliant systems. Please send comments, bug reports > >>and so on to . > > Could you please give me more information about what machines this can be > installed on? I am typing this on a Decstation 3100, and I would love to > install Linux on this thing. > > Thanks, > Kurt Stevens > > stc::stevens@ampakz.enet.dec.com > -- MIME mail discarded UNREAD! From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Wed Oct 25 15:03:28 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA22516 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:03:27 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17491; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:03:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <44203-3>; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:03:33 -0400 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA07013; Wed, 25 Oct 95 10:11:18 -0400 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA06490; Wed, 25 Oct 95 10:11:15 -0400 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9510251411.AA06490@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:11:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199510251349.OAA10699@infko.uni-koblenz.de> from "Wayne Hodgen" at Oct 25, 95 02:49:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1501 Lines: 37 Hi, > Hi all, > > it finally happened! I got my RAM for the Olli (only took 6 months Grrr). > Now to try and do something with it. Hmm, Ralf only left/put ancient > garbage into the crossdev account I gave him here. So I'll have to grab > stuff from an ftp site. No problem, already started. While I'm waiting > for it to get here, I thought I'd install NT to make sure the Olli is > working OK (alright, I admit I wanted to play around with it a bit too). > > Heres the problem: how do I get NT to boot? I have a system pool 3.5 > server CD. Theres a mips directory on it. In there are 6 or so .exe > files. Of these only one, arcinst.exe, actually starts. The others > just give "bad image file" or similar. Am I missing a boot disk or > something here? I probably don't want to install NT anyway but I > hate it when things don't work :( > > Hurry up ftp ... > > Ciao > -- > Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include Uni Koblenz, | or Fight-o-net 2:2454/500.69 | legalesemumbojumbodisclaim > Rheinau 1, | Voice: +49 261 9119-645 | er||stupidasciipictureover > 56075 Koblenz. | Fax: +49 261 9119-499 | 20linestoannoythenet.cops> > To install NT, you have to run a program called "setupldr" within the MIPS directory. It took me a day or two to figure that one out :-/ -- David Kerry (davidk@sni.ca) Sietec Open Systems 1131a Leslie Street, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C-3L8, Canada Tel: (416) 449-9449, Fax: (416) 449-6232 From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 15:26:38 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA22888 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:26:37 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17997; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:22:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA13223 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:17:23 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10635; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:16:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:16:26 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251416.PAA10635@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPSoot@scotty In-Reply-To: <199510251358.OAA15912@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 384 Lines: 15 > -- > MIME mail discarded UNREAD! > Erm, what does this mean, please ? Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 15:23:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA22840 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:23:58 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17987; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:22:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA13255 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:19:00 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10640; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:18:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:18:02 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251418.PAA10640@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <199510251349.OAA10699@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1311 Lines: 35 Hi all, > > it finally happened! I got my RAM for the Olli (only took 6 months Grrr). > Now to try and do something with it. Hmm, Ralf only left/put ancient > garbage into the crossdev account I gave him here. So I'll have to grab > stuff from an ftp site. No problem, already started. While I'm waiting > for it to get here, I thought I'd install NT to make sure the Olli is > working OK (alright, I admit I wanted to play around with it a bit too). > Can't believe it !!! ;-> > Heres the problem: how do I get NT to boot? I have a system pool 3.5 > server CD. Theres a mips directory on it. In there are 6 or so .exe > files. Of these only one, arcinst.exe, actually starts. The others > just give "bad image file" or similar. Am I missing a boot disk or > something here? I probably don't want to install NT anyway but I > hate it when things don't work :( > > Hurry up ftp ... > I'm not sure, but you might need one of those setup disks. What happens if you run arcinst.exe ? Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From jens@jens1.whu-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 15:39:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA23105 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:39:16 +0100 Received: from obelix.WHU-Koblenz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA18380; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:38:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from jens1.whu-koblenz.de (jens@jens1.WHU-Koblenz.DE [193.141.48.51]) by obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA09075 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:39:05 +0100 Received: (from jens@localhost) by jens1.whu-koblenz.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01597 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:36:14 +0100 From: Jens Hoffmann Message-Id: <199510251436.PAA01597@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:36:12 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251349.OAA10699@infko.uni-koblenz.de> from "Wayne Hodgen" at Oct 25, 95 02:49:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 562 Lines: 22 Hi Wayne, Wayne Hodgen wrote: > Heres the problem: how do I get NT to boot? I have a system pool 3.5 > server CD. Theres a mips directory on it. In there are 6 or so .exe > files. Of these only one, arcinst.exe, actually starts. The others > just give "bad image file" or similar. Am I missing a boot disk or > something here? I probably don't want to install NT anyway but I > hate it when things don't work :( :) Have you tried to boot the CD? Should work immediately :) > Hurry up ftp ... :)) When will the Uni get their next 64k? Greetings, Jens From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Wed Oct 25 16:48:12 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA24346 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:48:11 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20376; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:47:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id QAA23028; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:47:51 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id QAA02828; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:47:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199510251447.QAA02828@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:49:02 BST." <199510251349.OAA10699@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:47:31 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 826 Lines: 19 >>>>> "Wayne" == Wayne Hodgen writes: [SNIP] Wayne> missing a boot disk or something here? I probably don't want to Wayne> install NT anyway but I hate it when things don't work :( As David says, setupldr is the right thing to launch, hum to install NT you shouldn't need the Oily disk, NT can do all it want to do, alone, there is also arcinst.exe in the mips directory to do disk partitions stuff.... Just a little question, how much RAM do you got, and *most* important, with what kind of SIMM (single, double, ....) ? I tried last night to downgrade to 16Mo from 32Mo (was trying to wrote RAM detection for Milo, currently for the Oily it's hard coded at 8Mo in Milo :( ), and I wasn't able to do it, there are very restrictive rules about SIMMs layout for the Oily... Cheers, Stoned. From pab@black.uni.net Wed Oct 25 16:09:12 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA23582 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:09:11 +0100 Received: from black.uni.net ([194.183.2.137]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19323; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:08:53 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pab@localhost) by black.uni.net (8.7/8.7) id QAA01467 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:13:15 +0100 (MET) From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <9510251613.ZM1464@black.uni.net> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:13:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: Ralf Baechle "Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPSoot@scotty" (Oct 25, 2:58pm) References: <199510251358.OAA15912@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPSoot@scotty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 144 Lines: 8 On Oct 25, 2:58pm, Ralf Baechle wrote: > ... > MIME mail discarded UNREAD! >-- End of excerpt from Ralf Baechle What's wrong with it ? /pab From pab@black.uni.net Wed Oct 25 16:24:32 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA23890 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:24:31 +0100 Received: from black.uni.net ([194.183.2.137]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19780; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:24:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pab@localhost) by black.uni.net (8.7/8.7) id QAA01477 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:28:39 +0100 (MET) From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <9510251628.ZM1474@black.uni.net> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:28:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: Jens Hoffmann "Re: Olli working, help?" (Oct 25, 3:36pm) References: <199510251436.PAA01597@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 234 Lines: 11 On Oct 25, 3:36pm, Jens Hoffmann wrote: > ... > :)) When will the Uni get their next 64k? > > Greetings, > Jens >-- End of excerpt from Jens Hoffmann We at UniNet buy a new 64K each month, is that you're asking, Jens ? :) /pab From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 16:40:58 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA24238 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:40:57 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20099; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:37:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA15646 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:37:18 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA10868; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:36:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:36:20 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251536.QAA10868@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <9510251628.ZM1474@black.uni.net> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 563 Lines: 18 > > We at UniNet buy a new 64K each month, is that you're asking, Jens ? :) > Buy me a second one too, please :-) My leased line gets saturated by web traffic soon. What a luck that I don't pay for it but get money to keep servers running ;-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From jens@jens1.whu-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 17:02:39 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA24668 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:02:37 +0100 Received: from obelix.WHU-Koblenz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20782; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:02:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from jens1.whu-koblenz.de (jens@jens1.WHU-Koblenz.DE [193.141.48.51]) by obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA12302 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:02:29 +0100 Received: (from jens@localhost) by jens1.whu-koblenz.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA01692 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:59:34 +0100 From: Jens Hoffmann Message-Id: <199510251559.QAA01692@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:59:32 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510251628.ZM1474@black.uni.net> from "Paolo Bevilacqua" at Oct 25, 95 04:28:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 238 Lines: 14 Hi, Paolo Bevilacqua wrote: > > :)) When will the Uni get their next 64k? > We at UniNet buy a new 64K each month, is that you're asking, Jens ? :) Not exactly, Paolo. uni-koblenz has a single 64k Link for all :) Greetings, Jens From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 17:07:04 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA24778 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:07:03 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20804; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:04:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA16353 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:03:34 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA10922; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:02:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:02:36 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251602.RAA10922@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Olli available X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 712 Lines: 19 Hi Jens, hi all! I talked to Stefan regarding his unused Olli. He would be lucky if someone could take care of his baby, ie. spend some time into Linux/MIPS hacking. Jens, if you wanna have it, let me know. But please be aware that Stefan wants it back at some time, probably as soon Linux/MIPS really runs. Also, please don't tell me about ISDN stuff -- that's really the last thing we need :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 17:20:49 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25006 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:20:48 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21134; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:19:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA16774 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:17:36 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA10963; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:16:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:16:38 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251616.RAA10963@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <199510251447.QAA02828@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1190 Lines: 28 > > Just a little question, how much RAM do you got, and *most* important, > with what kind of SIMM (single, double, ....) ? I tried last night to > downgrade to 16Mo from 32Mo (was trying to wrote RAM detection for > Milo, currently for the Oily it's hard coded at 8Mo in Milo :( ), and > I wasn't able to do it, there are very restrictive rules about SIMMs > layout for the Oily... > You always need to install 4 SIMMs. The original JAZZ design accesses the system memory 64 bit wide and two way interleaved. This has been changed on the PICA to allow low-cost setups. Ie, you can run the Olli with 8MB (4*2MB), 16MB (4*4 or 8*2), 32MB (4*8 or 8*4) and 64MB (4*16 or 8*8). More isn't recommended, at least not until you decrease system clock to 40 Mhz. This has been figured out by SGI Munich for a customer who insisted on 256 MB phys. memory. Didn't work :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 17:33:34 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25265 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:33:33 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21444; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:32:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18382 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:31:25 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510251631.RAA18382@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA03794; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:31:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:31:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510251411.AA06490@silver.sni.CA> from "David Kerry" at Oct 25, 95 10:11:14 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 773 Lines: 14 > To install NT, you have to run a program called "setupldr" within > the MIPS directory. It took me a day or two to figure that one out :-/ Thanks David, that worked. Except that NT crashes every time between 3 and 20% installed. I tried both German and English US CDs with the same result (NT version 3.5). Dunno what is going on. It would have been nice to see it do something but I'm not going to waste my time on some crappy M$ product. *sigh* -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 17:35:18 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25307 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:35:16 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21479; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:34:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18400 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:33:03 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510251633.RAA18400@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA03802; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:32:41 +0100 Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:32:40 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251418.PAA10640@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 25, 95 03:18:02 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 630 Lines: 12 > I'm not sure, but you might need one of those setup disks. > What happens if you run arcinst.exe ? Its just a quicky tool to let you create/delete partitions and boot menu items. Of course there's no option to see what partitions already exist but hey, thats M$ and such a thing would be way too useful :( -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 17:36:41 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25350 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:36:40 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21501; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:35:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18439 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:34:12 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510251634.RAA18439@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA03810; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:33:50 +0100 Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:33:49 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251436.PAA01597@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> from "Jens Hoffmann" at Oct 25, 95 03:36:12 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 480 Lines: 10 > :)) When will the Uni get their next 64k? Theoretically we already have it, practically telekom f*cked up and Arndt (who was on holiday) is now off sick... -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Wed Oct 25 17:38:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25412 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:38:58 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21528; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:37:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18537 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:36:00 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510251636.RAA18537@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA03818; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:35:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:35:37 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251447.QAA02828@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 25, 95 04:47:31 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1003 Lines: 21 > As David says, setupldr is the right thing to launch, hum to install > NT you shouldn't need the Oily disk, NT can do all it want to do, > alone, there is also arcinst.exe in the mips directory to do disk > partitions stuff.... Yep. I got that far. > Just a little question, how much RAM do you got, and *most* important, > with what kind of SIMM (single, double, ....) ? I tried last night to > downgrade to 16Mo from 32Mo (was trying to wrote RAM detection for > Milo, currently for the Oily it's hard coded at 8Mo in Milo :( ), and > I wasn't able to do it, there are very restrictive rules about SIMMs > layout for the Oily... I have 4x4MB (with parity) in giving me 16MB. -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Wed Oct 25 19:20:43 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA27522 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:20:42 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23667; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:20:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id TAA23311; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:01:41 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id TAA03048; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:01:30 +0200 Message-Id: <199510251701.TAA03048@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:16:28 BST." <9510251816.ZM1487@black.uni.net> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:01:24 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 406 Lines: 12 >>>>> "Paolo" == Paolo Bevilacqua writes: [SNIP] Paolo> Stoned, the olly docs states that you can read the amount and Paolo> type of installed RAM at a certain location... i would bet that Paolo> it works for Mags too ... Yes, but there is the NMI stuff :( And well the ARC BIOS memory reporting functions seems a little broken, I'll try to do a mix of this two ways (Luc's idea:) Stoned. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Wed Oct 25 19:20:48 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA27537 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:20:48 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23675; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:20:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id TAA23327; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:04:00 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id TAA03066; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:03:48 +0200 Message-Id: <199510251703.TAA03066@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:31:02 BST." <199510251631.RAA18382@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:03:42 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 604 Lines: 13 >>>>> "Wayne" == Wayne Hodgen writes: [SNIP] Wayne> Thanks David, that worked. Except that NT crashes every time Wayne> between 3 and 20% installed. I tried both German and English US Wayne> CDs with the same result (NT version 3.5). Dunno what is going Wayne> on. It would have been nice to see it do something but I'm not Wayne> going to waste my time on some crappy M$ product. *sigh* I had similar problems, compilation of WINNT number 845867 didn't work but 845868 did work,... this kind of stuff,... you have to get a good one ;) if such a beast exist :) Stoned. From pab@black.uni.net Wed Oct 25 18:12:31 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA26331 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:12:30 +0100 Received: from black.uni.net ([194.183.2.137]) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22316; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:12:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pab@localhost) by black.uni.net (8.7/8.7) id SAA01513 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:16:28 +0100 (MET) From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <9510251816.ZM1487@black.uni.net> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:16:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: Stoned Elipot "Re: Olli working, help?" (Oct 25, 4:47pm) References: <199510251447.QAA02828@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Ncc-Regid: it.uninet X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 592 Lines: 15 On Oct 25, 4:47pm, Stoned Elipot wrote: > ... > Just a little question, how much RAM do you got, and *most* important, > with what kind of SIMM (single, double, ....) ? I tried last night to > downgrade to 16Mo from 32Mo (was trying to wrote RAM detection for > Milo, currently for the Oily it's hard coded at 8Mo in Milo :( ), and > I wasn't able to do it, there are very restrictive rules about SIMMs > layout for the Oily... > Stoned, the olly docs states that you can read the amount and type of installed RAM at a certain location... i would bet that it works for Mags too ... /pab From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Wed Oct 25 19:22:57 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA27603 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:22:56 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23716; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:22:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id TAA23369; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:22:47 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id TAA03120; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:22:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199510251722.TAA03120@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:24:29 BST." <199510251724.SAA11298@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:22:29 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 535 Lines: 13 >>>>> "Andy" == Andreas Busse writes: [SNIP] Andy> Perhaps 3.1 will work better. I'm not sure, but M$ probably Andy> doesn't support the good old Magnum aka Olli anymore. If you Andy> need something, let me know. I know someone at a so-called M$ Andy> "solution provider" in Munich. Let's see if they can provide a Andy> solution . I had found the brand of the version that I succesfully installed on my Oily; it's named "Server Pool, Windows NT Server 3.5, release date: May 1995".... Cheers, Stoned. From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 18:28:58 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA26695 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:28:57 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22633; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:25:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA18736 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:25:27 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA11298; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:24:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:24:29 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251724.SAA11298@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <199510251631.RAA18382@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 909 Lines: 23 > > Thanks David, that worked. Except that NT crashes every time between > 3 and 20% installed. I tried both German and English US CDs with the > same result (NT version 3.5). Dunno what is going on. It would have > been nice to see it do something but I'm not going to waste my time > on some crappy M$ product. *sigh* > Perhaps 3.1 will work better. I'm not sure, but M$ probably doesn't support the good old Magnum aka Olli anymore. If you need something, let me know. I know someone at a so-called M$ "solution provider" in Munich. Let's see if they can provide a solution . Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From imp@rover.village.org Wed Oct 25 19:21:59 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA27576 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:21:58 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA23685; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:21:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA28282 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:21:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199510251821.MAA28282@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:24:29 BST Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:21:41 -0600 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 567 Lines: 14 : Perhaps 3.1 will work better. I'm not sure, but M$ probably : doesn't support the good old Magnum aka Olli anymore. : If you need something, let me know. I know someone at a : so-called M$ "solution provider" in Munich. Let's see if : they can provide a solution . I have the 3.1 NT CDROM, I believe. It is the english version only, however. I may be able to get another one, but I'm not 100% sure. If I was sure it would help, I'd be happy to send it to you, if you'd return it. No, I can't just upload it. My internet pipe isn't that fat :-). Warner From brothers@bb13c.mdd.comm.mot.com Wed Oct 25 19:59:45 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA28126 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:59:43 +0100 Received: from motgate.mot.com by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24411; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:59:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from mothost.mot.com (mothost.mot.com [129.188.137.101]) by motgate.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id NAA23063 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:59:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bb13c.mdd.comm.mot.com (bb13c.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.72.13]) by mothost.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id NAA03033 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:58:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from brothers@localhost) by bb13c.mdd.comm.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA03325 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Brothers Message-Id: <199510251858.LAA03325@bb13c.mdd.comm.mot.com> Subject: Before I go... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199510251722.TAA03120@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 25, 95 07:22:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 604 Lines: 15 Before I go... With regret, I will be leaving this forum. My workload has gone up so much that I resigned as Linux/PPC coordinator after Linux 1.2 booted on the MVME 1603. I no longer even have time to read you delightful and encouraging comments on the MIPS port. If someone will email me a copy of your FAQ, I will make good on my promise to go over its English, as a native speaker (well, I speak American, but it's close). I'll send the diffs back. -Joseph -- brothers@mdd.comm.mot.com Joseph L. Brothers "I am speaking solely for my self, not my employer." From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Wed Oct 25 21:12:43 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29427 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:12:42 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26099; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:12:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id VAA23655; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:12:34 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id VAA03502; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:12:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199510251912.VAA03502@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:59:25 BST." <199510251959.UAA11738@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:12:17 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 138 Lines: 7 >Hmmm. Is there a Bourbon version available too ? ;-> North Korean is available, but I don't think you can drink it ;) Cheers, Stoned. From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 25 20:43:37 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA28857 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:43:36 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25455; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:43:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA07881 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:42:32 +0100 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA17748 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:43:06 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510251943.UAA17748@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPSoot@scotty To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:43:05 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510251613.ZM1464@black.uni.net> from "Paolo Bevilacqua" at Oct 25, 95 04:13:15 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 545 Lines: 21 > > On Oct 25, 2:58pm, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > ... > > MIME mail discarded UNREAD! > >-- End of excerpt from Ralf Baechle > > What's wrong with it ? It's just that I'm finally fed up with non installed, badly installed or otherwise unusable MIME support on various sites that I'm using and where fixing these problems is outside of my priviledges so that I finally consider MIME email that makes my mailreader choke again 'shoot on sight'. But I don't think this is stuff for this mailing list ... Ralf -- MIME mail discarded UNREAD! From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 25 20:47:34 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA28913 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:47:33 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25530; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:47:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA07916 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:46:42 +0100 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA17780 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:47:15 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510251947.UAA17780@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:47:14 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251821.MAA28282@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Oct 25, 95 12:21:41 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 159 Lines: 8 Hi, > I have the 3.1 NT CDROM, I believe. It is the english version only, Wayne'd probably prefer the Scottish version ;-) -- MIME mail discarded UNREAD! From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 25 20:57:11 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA29073 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:57:10 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25719; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:56:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA07952 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:56:10 +0100 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA17819 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:56:44 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510251956.UAA17819@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:56:43 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510251816.ZM1487@black.uni.net> from "Paolo Bevilacqua" at Oct 25, 95 06:16:28 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 859 Lines: 21 Hi, > > Just a little question, how much RAM do you got, and *most* important, > > with what kind of SIMM (single, double, ....) ? I tried last night to > > downgrade to 16Mo from 32Mo (was trying to wrote RAM detection for > > Milo, currently for the Oily it's hard coded at 8Mo in Milo :( ), and > > I wasn't able to do it, there are very restrictive rules about SIMMs > > layout for the Oily... > > Stoned, the olly docs states that you can read the amount and type of installed > RAM at a certain location... i would bet that it works for Mags too ... There is just one problem - some SIMM types return the same type code in the register. So you have to try if the RAM really exists by accessing it. If you try to access non existing RAM you'll get a NMI exception which transfers control to the boot ROM ... Ralf -- MIME mail discarded UNREAD! From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 21:00:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29159 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:00:16 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25772; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:59:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA03289 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:59:27 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA11734; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:58:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:58:29 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251958.UAA11734@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPSoot@scotty In-Reply-To: <199510251943.UAA17748@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 958 Lines: 24 > > It's just that I'm finally fed up with non installed, badly installed > or otherwise unusable MIME support on various sites that I'm using > and where fixing these problems is outside of my priviledges so that I > finally consider MIME email that makes my mailreader choke again > 'shoot on sight'. > Did you, perhaps, mean a not or badly installed MIME support on scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de ? No ? :-) If you did, please notice that you're the only one with an account on this "system" asking for such bells and whissles :-) And there are quite a few accounts on this box -- it's still producing the traffic of a mid-size university! Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 21:00:30 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29182 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:00:29 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25800; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:00:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA03346 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:00:22 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA11738; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:59:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:59:25 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510251959.UAA11738@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <199510251947.UAA17780@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 428 Lines: 16 > > Wayne'd probably prefer the Scottish version ;-) > Hmmm. Is there a Bourbon version available too ? ;-> Cheers! Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Wed Oct 25 21:07:24 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29275 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:07:23 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25963; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:07:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA03512 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:07:18 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA11758; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:06:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:06:21 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510252006.VAA11758@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <199510251956.UAA17819@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1055 Lines: 25 > > There is just one problem - some SIMM types return the same type code in > the register. So you have to try if the RAM really exists by accessing it. > If you try to access non existing RAM you'll get a NMI exception which > transfers control to the boot ROM ... > Have you tried that? I doubt that it really works this way, since neither the hardware nor the BIOS can detect the difference between these SIMMs with identical IDs. The only way to find out what size of memory is installed is to access the last address of the expected memory area, and if a write-read-verify cycle fails, fall back to the smaller size. If the BIOS would get a NMI during this access, it couldn't determine the size either. Or have I missed something? Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 25 21:12:16 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29408 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:12:15 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26090; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:11:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA08003 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:11:15 +0100 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA17924 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:11:49 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510252011.VAA17924@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:11:43 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251959.UAA11738@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 25, 95 08:59:25 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 205 Lines: 11 Hi, > > Wayne'd probably prefer the Scottish version ;-) > Hmmm. Is there a Bourbon version available too ? ;-> Hmmm. I think I'll stick with some glasses of Pernod ... Greetings from Paris, Ralf From ralf@waldorf-gmbh.de Wed Oct 25 21:33:15 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29750 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:33:14 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA26468; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:32:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de [193.98.169.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA08046 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:31:59 +0100 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA18027 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:32:20 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199510252032.VAA18027@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:32:19 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510252006.VAA11758@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 25, 95 09:06:21 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 890 Lines: 20 Hi, > > There is just one problem - some SIMM types return the same type code in > > the register. So you have to try if the RAM really exists by accessing it. > > If you try to access non existing RAM you'll get a NMI exception which > > transfers control to the boot ROM ... > > Have you tried that? I doubt that it really works this way, > since neither the hardware nor the BIOS can detect the > difference between these SIMMs with identical IDs. The only > way to find out what size of memory is installed is to > access the last address of the expected memory area, and > if a write-read-verify cycle fails, fall back to the smaller > size. If the BIOS would get a NMI during this access, it > couldn't determine the size either. Or have I missed something? Yes, the BIOS recognises the NMI and use it to deciede if it has just tried out writing to nonexisting RAM. Ralf From andy@soft-n-hard.de Thu Oct 26 07:48:41 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA09971 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 07:48:41 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA07260; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 07:48:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA03259 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 07:48:38 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA15660; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 07:47:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 07:47:42 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510260647.HAA15660@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olli working, help? In-Reply-To: <199510252032.VAA18027@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 500 Lines: 17 > > Yes, the BIOS recognises the NMI and use it to deciede if it has > just tried out writing to nonexisting RAM. > And what is generating the NMI? Don't tell me it's the RAM :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Thu Oct 26 10:44:51 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA12564 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:44:50 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10549; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:44:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01798 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:43:32 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510260943.KAA01798@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA04468; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:43:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:43:04 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510251722.TAA03120@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 25, 95 07:22:29 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 995 Lines: 20 > Andy> Perhaps 3.1 will work better. I'm not sure, but M$ probably > Andy> doesn't support the good old Magnum aka Olli anymore. If you > Andy> need something, let me know. I know someone at a so-called M$ > Andy> "solution provider" in Munich. Let's see if they can provide a > Andy> solution . > > I had found the brand of the version that I succesfully installed on > my Oily; it's named "Server Pool, Windows NT Server 3.5, release date: > May 1995".... Hmmm, thats the version that crashes all the time for me. System Pool NT workstation 3.5, US English, May 1995, Part No: 288-056-081 A friend is bringing me 3.1 tomorrow but I wonder why yours works :-/ -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From jens@jens1.whu-koblenz.de Thu Oct 26 13:31:47 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA15167 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 13:31:46 +0100 Received: from obelix.WHU-Koblenz.DE by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13786; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 13:31:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from jens1.whu-koblenz.de (jens@jens1.WHU-Koblenz.DE [193.141.48.51]) by obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA01364 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 13:31:45 +0100 Received: (from jens@localhost) by jens1.whu-koblenz.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA02936 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 13:28:27 +0100 From: Jens Hoffmann Message-Id: <199510261228.NAA02936@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Olli working, help? To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 13:28:25 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510260943.KAA01798@infko.uni-koblenz.de> from "Wayne Hodgen" at Oct 26, 95 10:43:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 430 Lines: 14 Hi, > Hmmm, thats the version that crashes all the time for me. > System Pool NT workstation 3.5, US English, May 1995, Part No: 288-056-081 > A friend is bringing me 3.1 tomorrow but I wonder why yours works :-/ If that fails, I have the brand-new October developer pack. There are many versions of NT-Workstation 3.51 (including asean and some other strange versions :), but no scottish, nor gaelic :( ) Greetings, Jens From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 27 14:18:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08222 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:18:33 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11367; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:18:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA15321 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:17:23 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510271317.OAA15321@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA06428; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:16:47 +0100 Subject: More Olli help To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:16:46 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510261228.NAA02936@jens1.whu-koblenz.de> from "Jens Hoffmann" at Oct 26, 95 01:28:25 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 673 Lines: 14 Hi, I just tried my 1.2.11 image but the Olli doesn't want to load it. "bad image file". Soooooo, I just thought, what byte order does the MIPS/Linux kernel have to be? I compiled the binutils/gcc with mipsel, ie. Little endian. Since PCs are Big endian, does the MIPS kernel have to be too? Probably a stupid question but it's nearly the weekend... -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 27 14:27:12 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08375 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:27:10 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11912; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:26:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA15000 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:26:49 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA25976; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:25:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:25:53 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510271325.OAA25976@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: More Olli help In-Reply-To: <199510271317.OAA15321@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 690 Lines: 22 Hi, > > I just tried my 1.2.11 image but the Olli doesn't want to load it. "bad > image file". Soooooo, I just thought, what byte order does the MIPS/Linux > kernel have to be? I compiled the binutils/gcc with mipsel, ie. Little > endian. Since PCs are Big endian, does the MIPS kernel have to be too? Huh? a) PCs are little endian b) try Milo to boot the kernel :-) Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 27 15:34:04 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA09039 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:34:03 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15821; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:33:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19061 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:32:27 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510271432.PAA19061@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA10096; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:31:52 +0100 Subject: Re: More Olli help To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:31:51 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510271325.OAA25976@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 27, 95 02:25:53 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1068 Lines: 24 > > > > I just tried my 1.2.11 image but the Olli doesn't want to load it. "bad > > image file". Soooooo, I just thought, what byte order does the MIPS/Linux > > kernel have to be? I compiled the binutils/gcc with mipsel, ie. Little > > endian. Since PCs are Big endian, does the MIPS kernel have to be too? > > Huh? > > a) PCs are little endian > b) try Milo to boot the kernel :-) *sigh* That byte order rubbish always gets me :( I forgot Milo completely. Has anyone ever thought of writing a Mips howto? Or did I just volenteer? I still can't get NT to do anything except crash (but it's good at that :) Just now the Olli is doing all the diagnostics on the diskette. Strangely, it always crashes when doing the "audio" test... Ciao -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 27 15:38:35 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA09063 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:38:34 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15913; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:38:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA17299 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:38:20 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA26475; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:37:24 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:37:24 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510271437.PAA26475@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: More Olli help In-Reply-To: <199510271432.PAA19061@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 972 Lines: 26 Hi again, > *sigh* That byte order rubbish always gets me :( I forgot Milo completely. > Has anyone ever thought of writing a Mips howto? Or did I just volenteer? > You probably did :-) No, there's an online "howto" on http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/. Perhaps a bit outdated, but better than nothing. > I still can't get NT to do anything except crash (but it's good at that :) > Just now the Olli is doing all the diagnostics on the diskette. Strangely, > it always crashes when doing the "audio" test... Hmmm. Stefan's Olli passed the audio check. If your problems continue, let me know. Perhaps it's really a problem with the audio interface... Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 27 16:41:10 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA09584 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:41:09 +0100 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19013; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:41:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via EUnet-France id AA08250; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:40:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA21985 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:35:09 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510271535.QAA21985@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA11060; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:34:33 +0100 Subject: Re: More Olli help To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:34:32 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510271437.PAA26475@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 27, 95 03:37:24 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 954 Lines: 20 > > I still can't get NT to do anything except crash (but it's good at that :) > > Just now the Olli is doing all the diagnostics on the diskette. Strangely, > > it always crashes when doing the "audio" test... > > Hmmm. Stefan's Olli passed the audio check. If your problems continue, > let me know. Perhaps it's really a problem with the audio interface... Mine crashes very reliably on the "Tone test". Cache exception error and a register dump. BTW, is there a workingish Olli kernel source around? I tried the standard 1.2.11.2 on ftp.fnet.fr milo loads it but launching it does nothing except freeze up the machine. Ciao -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From andy@soft-n-hard.de Fri Oct 27 17:24:45 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA09846 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:24:32 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA20290; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:24:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA20347 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:24:05 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA27243; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:23:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:23:07 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510271623.RAA27243@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: More Olli help In-Reply-To: <199510271535.QAA21985@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 1344 Lines: 36 > > Mine crashes very reliably on the "Tone test". Cache exception error and > a register dump. Interesting... > > BTW, is there a workingish Olli kernel source around? I tried the standard > 1.2.11.2 on ftp.fnet.fr milo loads it but launching it does nothing except > freeze up the machine. Which "standard" 1.2.11.2 ? There's a binary somewhere on ftp.fnet.fr, I guess in linux-mips/private/Incoming, as well as a Milo binary. Both have been successfully tested on Magnum and Ollis. If it doesn't work on your Olli, there's either something wrong with the hardware, with the Ram or with its configuration. If you want to find out more, get the Milo source tree and compile it. The binary on ftp.fnet.fr has the verbose option turned off, so you'll don't see anything but a copyright and, after some time, the image size and "Launching kernel....". You may also run Pandora (actually the same as Milo, but with the debugger enabled by default) to check if things are working. Let me know if you need further help! Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From hodgen@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Fri Oct 27 19:11:21 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00360 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 19:11:19 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA21284; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:11:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA26223 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:10:55 +0100 From: Wayne Hodgen Message-Id: <199510271710.SAA26223@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA12252; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:10:18 +0100 Subject: Re: More Olli help To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:10:16 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510271623.RAA27243@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 27, 95 05:23:07 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1669 Lines: 38 > Interesting... No, not very. Annoying I'd say. > > > > BTW, is there a workingish Olli kernel source around? I tried the standard > > 1.2.11.2 on ftp.fnet.fr milo loads it but launching it does nothing except > > freeze up the machine. > > Which "standard" 1.2.11.2 ? There's a binary somewhere on ftp.fnet.fr, > I guess in linux-mips/private/Incoming, as well as a Milo binary. > Both have been successfully tested on Magnum and Ollis. If it doesn't > work on your Olli, there's either something wrong with the hardware, > with the Ram or with its configuration. I took the 1.2.0 source in mips/src/kernel/v1.2 and patched it up to 1.2.11.2. Milo I took 0.25. Compiled with DEBUG=1 and started with milo -v. I still get no more output than before :( > If you want to find out more, get the Milo source tree and compile > it. The binary on ftp.fnet.fr has the verbose option turned off, > so you'll don't see anything but a copyright and, after some time, > the image size and "Launching kernel....". > > You may also run Pandora (actually the same as Milo, but with > the debugger enabled by default) to check if things are working. > > Let me know if you need further help! I need more help. After I compile my vmlinux, do I have to do something to it? Or just copy it to the floppy? RALF! I WANT MY RALF! ;) Bye (going home now) -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de | #include From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Fri Oct 27 21:20:11 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA01123 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:20:10 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA25353; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:20:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id VAA28668; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:20:04 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id VAA05843; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:19:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199510271919.VAA05843@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: More Olli help In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:10:16 BST." <199510271710.SAA26223@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:19:47 +0200 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 207 Lines: 6 >I need more help. After I compile my vmlinux, do I have to do something to >it? Or just copy it to the floppy? RALF! I WANT MY RALF! ;) Hum,... he's here. Do you want my phone number ???? Cheers, Stoned. From andy@soft-n-hard.de Mon Oct 30 08:16:27 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA25954 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:16:26 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15518; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:16:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA15327 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:16:31 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA30789; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:15:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:15:33 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510300715.IAA30789@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Before i hit the hard ... In-Reply-To: <199510300142.CAA16471@malcolm.rmnet.it> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 872 Lines: 24 > > .. or before the hard INSTALL for GCC hits me, please give me some advice in > order to build the beast. I don't expect a step-by-step guide, just some tip. I > will then prepare a binary distribution for the FTP to be used by the next > dummy. Going to sleep now, may be RMS in person will illuminate me in my > dreams. > Before you configure it, apply the patches from ftp.fnet.fr. I believe it's gcc-2.7.0-3. You also need the latest binutils, binutils-2.5.2-6. Configure both with --host=i486-linux --target=mipsel-linux. That should do the job. Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM Mon Oct 30 09:49:25 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA26497 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:49:25 +0100 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17084; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:49:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from snail.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id AAA06793; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 00:49:17 -0800 Received: from France (isunfra) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27739; Mon, 30 Oct 95 00:48:59 PST Received: from elektra.France.Sun.COM by France (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21510; Mon, 30 Oct 95 09:48:43 +0100 Received: from tatooine.France.Sun.COM by elektra.France.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4 (1/24/94)) id AA14954; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:48:43 --100 Received: by tatooine.France.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00678; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:48:38 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:48:38 +0100 From: Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM (Gilles Gravier - ITC) Message-Id: <9510300848.AA00678@tatooine.France.Sun.COM> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: QC16q/65/AiJ5ya8npzSxA== Content-Length: 1195 Lines: 25 Hi! > hmm, decstations pulls in the first 8kb of the hd as the boot loader. > how this works can be learned from either Mach3.0 or NetBSD. also > there is a definition of the prom interface. i belive the magnum is > very similar to the decstation in this respect.... > I imagine the Magnum 3000 (or RC3X30) would be similar too... Where can I get my hands on NetBSD sources or Mach3.0 sources to look at how it's done? Cheers, Gilles. /----------------+-------------------------------------------\ | /\ | Gilles Gravier | | \\ \ | Pre-Sales Technical Support | | \ \\ / | Sun Microsystems France | | / \/ / / | 13 avenue Maurane Saulnier | | / / \//\ | B.P. 53 | | \//\ / / | 78142 Velizy CEDEX | | / / /\ / | FRANCE | | / \\ \ | Email: Gilles.Gravier@France.Sun.COM | | \ \\ | Phone: +33-1-30-67-52-81 | | \/ | Fax: +33-1-30-67-53-06 | \----------------+-------------------------------------------/ From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Mon Oct 30 11:45:06 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA27404 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:45:06 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA08222; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:44:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id LAA01190; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:44:53 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id KAA08451; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:44:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199510300944.KAA08451@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Olivetti and Magnum (I hope) RAM detection X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:44:36 +0100 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 946 Lines: 21 Hi all, you will find in ftp.fnet.fr:/linux-mips/private/Incoming two files named 'oilyram.c' and 'oilyram'. The second one is an ARC Bios executable, you can just launch it the same way as you launch Milo. If you want to compile it yourself, see the comments at the top of the source file,... Well this stuff will hopefully report the amount of physical RAM installed in an Olivetti Box, and I hope in a Magnum 4000 two (one more test to see if this two boxes are really tweens :). Please try it out and say to me if it had worked - as it was difficult for me to get a grip on various kind of SIMMs to test it on my box with various RAM configuration; at least it reports the correct amount for me ;) Well if this is ok, it will be integrated in my current Milo source tree - in fact it's already in ;) - and I will start working on the new argument passing scheme. Lots of patch on milo and kernel have to be expected... Cheers, Stoned. From imp@rover.village.org Mon Oct 30 15:45:00 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA29187 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 15:44:58 +0100 Received: from rover.village.org by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA16669; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 15:44:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA02491 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:44:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199510301444.HAA02491@rover.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIP In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 30 Oct 1995 09:48:38 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:44:48 -0700 From: Warner Losh Content-Length: 232 Lines: 6 : I imagine the Magnum 3000 (or RC3X30) would be similar too... Where can I get : my hands on NetBSD sources or Mach3.0 sources to look at how it's done? sup.netbsd.org if you have sup, or from ftp.netbsd.org under "pmax". Warner From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Mon Oct 30 17:16:52 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA29810 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:16:52 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA19072; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:17:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id RAA02201; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:17:24 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id QAA08928; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:17:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199510301517.QAA08928@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Oilyram In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:41:12 +0100." <199510301542.QAA29278@infko.uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:17:02 +0100 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 498 Lines: 19 Hi Ralf, gald to see you're at home :) >>>>> "Ralf" == Systemkennung Linux writes: Ralf> Hi, I got Wayne to try "Oilyram", it seems to work as what it Ralf> finds is what is in the machine. Great, thanks. Ralf> Following is the output: Ralf> DRAM configuration Ralf> global configuration register value: 00001511 Ralf> bank 0: 4 Mb single sided Ralf> Total RAM: 16 Hum,... it's exactly what I expected from a config like Wayne's one. Great. Cheers, Stoned. From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Mon Oct 30 16:44:12 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA29610 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:44:11 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA17956; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:43:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from ozzy (ozzy.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.8]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA29278 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:42:11 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510301542.QAA29278@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by ozzy (5.x/KO-2.0) id AA15881; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:41:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Oilyram To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:41:12 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 236 Lines: 11 Hi, I got Wayne to try "Oilyram", it seems to work as what it finds is what is in the machine. Following is the output: DRAM configuration global configuration register value: 00001511 bank 0: 4 Mb single sided Total RAM: 16 Ralf From grieg!bentson@celestial.com Mon Oct 30 21:08:46 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA01542 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:08:40 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA24767; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:09:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from camco.celestial.com (root@camco.celestial.com [192.136.111.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA00612 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:08:18 +0100 Received: from grieg by camco.celestial.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tA0Wx-00075aC; Mon, 30 Oct 95 12:10 PST Received: by grieg.seaslug.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0t9zr7-000aEwC; Mon, 30 Oct 95 11:26 PST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 11:26 PST From: bentson@grieg.seaslug.org (Randolph Bentson) To: linux@waldorf-gmbh.de Subject: latest Linux/MIPS FAQ Content-Length: 408 Lines: 15 I'm trying to locate the latest FAQ on the MIPS porting project. The one on my CD-ROM is over a year old and I cannot find anything on my nearest mirror site. Can you point me to something which describes the current state of this project? The URL doesn't appear to be accessable at this time. Thanks for your help, Randolph Bentson bentson@grieg.seaslug.org From grieg!bentson@celestial.com Tue Oct 31 00:10:17 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA02655 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:10:17 +0100 Received: from gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA28208; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:10:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from camco.celestial.com (root@camco.celestial.com [192.136.111.1]) by gatekeeper.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA01392 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:10:03 +0100 Received: from grieg by camco.celestial.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tA3O7-0007CRC; Mon, 30 Oct 95 15:13 PST Received: by grieg.seaslug.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0tA1LP-000aEwC; Mon, 30 Oct 95 13:02 PST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 13:02 PST From: bentson@grieg.seaslug.org (Randolph Bentson) To: linux@waldorf-gmbh.de Subject: info on MIPS port Content-Length: 85 Lines: 4 I've since found the FAQ dated 95/04/20. Randolph Bentson bentson@grieg.seaslug.org From pab@RMnet.IT Tue Oct 31 01:19:05 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA03065 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:19:04 +0100 Received: from malcolm.RMnet.it by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29689; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:19:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from pag (pag.RMnet.it [194.20.98.41]) by malcolm.rmnet.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA00146 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:21:29 +0100 From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <951031011641.ZM12182@pag> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:16:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: Stoned Elipot "Olivetti and Magnum (I hope) RAM detection" (Oct 30, 10:44) References: <199510300944.KAA08451@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olivetti and Magnum (I hope) RAM detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 426 Lines: 14 On Oct 30, 10:44, Stoned Elipot wrote: > Subject: Olivetti and Magnum (I hope) RAM detection > ... > > Please try it out and say to me if it had worked - as it was > difficult for me to get a grip on various kind of SIMMs to test it on > my box with various RAM configuration; at least it reports the correct > amount for me ;) > Unluckly on my Magnum it doesn't output anything, just exits back to the ARC bios. /pab From pab@RMnet.IT Tue Oct 31 01:25:46 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA03151 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:25:46 +0100 Received: from malcolm.RMnet.it by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA29793; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:26:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from pag (pag.RMnet.it [194.20.98.41]) by malcolm.rmnet.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA01215 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:28:11 +0100 From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <951031012322.ZM12182@pag> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:23:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: Andreas Busse "Re: Before i hit the hard ..." (Oct 30, 8:15) References: <199510300715.IAA30789@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Before i hit the hard ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 0 Lines: 0 From pab@RMnet.IT Tue Oct 31 01:36:49 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA03244 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:36:49 +0100 Received: from malcolm.RMnet.it by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA00102; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:37:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from pag (pag.RMnet.it [194.20.98.41]) by malcolm.rmnet.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA01315 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:39:11 +0100 From: "Paolo Bevilacqua" Message-Id: <951031013424.ZM12182@pag> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:34:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: Andreas Busse "Re: Before i hit the hard ..." (Oct 30, 8:15) References: <199510300715.IAA30789@newton.soft-n-hard.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Before i hit the hard ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 562 Lines: 23 (Sorry, i sent an unedited message too) On Oct 30, 8:15, Andreas Busse wrote: > ... > Before you configure it, apply the patches from ftp.fnet.fr. > I believe it's gcc-2.7.0-3. You also need the latest binutils, > binutils-2.5.2-6. > > Configure both with --host=i486-linux --target=mipsel-linux. > I did and maked with the same options from andy's README for 2.6.3, then i maked install, it copied executables to .../gcc-lib/2.7.0, but: ... _varargs _eprintf ./libgcc2.c:1394: stdio.h: No such file or directory I hope is no problem ?!? Tnx all! /pab From cayman!uupsi!ksala!silver!davidk%harvard.harvard.edu%cicerone.uunet.ca Wed Nov 1 02:32:32 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA14129 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 02:32:31 +0100 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA02088; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 02:33:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from sni.ca ([192.75.236.203]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <167844-2>; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:33:39 -0500 Received: from silver.sietec.com by sni.ca (5.61/smail2.5/07-11-92) id AA01166; Tue, 31 Oct 95 20:41:23 -0500 Received: by silver.sni.CA (5.61/smail2.5/02-09-92) id AA08647; Tue, 31 Oct 95 20:41:23 -0500 From: "David Kerry" Message-Id: <9511010141.AA08647@silver.sni.CA> Subject: Re: Olivetti and Magnum (I hope) RAM detection To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:41:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <199510300944.KAA08451@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> from "Stoned Elipot" at Oct 30, 95 10:44:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 793 Lines: 20 > > Hi all, > you will find in ftp.fnet.fr:/linux-mips/private/Incoming two files > named 'oilyram.c' and 'oilyram'. The second one is an ARC Bios > executable, you can just launch it the same way as you launch Milo. If > you want to compile it yourself, see the comments at the top of the > source file,... Well this stuff will hopefully report the amount of > physical RAM installed in an Olivetti Box, and I hope in a Magnum 4000 > two (one more test to see if this two boxes are really tweens > :). > > Cheers, Stoned. > I seem to have the problem as one of the other fellows here... Running oilyram from the ARC firmware on my Magnum 4000 doesn't seem to give the desired result. It seems to run, but then immediately goes back to the firmware screen with no output. David Kerry From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 31 15:33:02 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA10540 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:33:01 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15283; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:33:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA29081 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:24:18 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA11350; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:23:19 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:23:19 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510310723.IAA11350@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Before i hit the hard ... In-Reply-To: <951031013424.ZM12182@pag> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 983 Lines: 31 Hi, > > I did and maked with the same options from andy's README for 2.6.3, then > i maked install, it copied executables to .../gcc-lib/2.7.0, but: > > ... > _varargs > _eprintf > ./libgcc2.c:1394: stdio.h: No such file or directory > > I hope is no problem ?!? > This *is* a problem, but it should be no problem to solve it :-) Make sure that you've installed the latest include files from libc-4.6.27-2, I believe and that you also setup the links from .../include/linux and .../include/asm to the corresponding kernel source directories. Without the includes and the kernel sources you probably won't be able to compile anything. Hope this helps. Cheers, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From andy@soft-n-hard.de Tue Oct 31 15:35:24 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA10561 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:35:23 +0100 Received: from bnc.net by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA15322; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:35:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from newton.soft-n-hard.de (newton.soft-n-hard.de [194.163.66.33]) by bnc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA29172; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:29:56 +0100 Received: (from andy@localhost) by newton.soft-n-hard.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA11362; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:28:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:28:58 +0100 From: Andreas Busse Message-Id: <199510310728.IAA11362@newton.soft-n-hard.de> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, bentson@grieg.seaslug.org Subject: Re: latest Linux/MIPS FAQ In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Content-Length: 630 Lines: 19 [Sorry, something went wrong my mailer...] So, what I wanted to say is that you find the latest Linux/MIPS FAQ on http://www.fnet.fr/linux-mips/. The FAQ itself might be a bit outdated, that's true. Anyway, there's some progress on this project, and if you want to know more, please let me know. Thanks for your interest! Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Busse | andy@soft-n-hard.de Soft N Hard GbR | Phone: +49 2636-970105 Im Hufen Boden 16, D-53498 Waldorf | Fax: +49 2636-970106 ----------------------------------------------------------- From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Tue Oct 31 12:10:18 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA08393 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:10:16 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA11407; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:10:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id MAA03674; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:10:37 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id LAA09951; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:10:26 +0100 Message-Id: <199510311010.LAA09951@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Olivetti and Magnum (I hope) RAM detection In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Oct 1995 01:19:12 +0100." <951031011641.ZM12182@pag> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3, MH-E 5.0.1 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:10:20 +0100 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 327 Lines: 10 Hi Paolo, >>>>> "Paolo" == Paolo Bevilacqua writes: [SNIP] Paolo> Unluckly on my Magnum it doesn't output anything, just exits Paolo> back to the ARC bios. Hum,... too bad, not even a single output like 'DRAM configuration', how strange. Anyway, thanks for trying And what about other Magnum people ?? Stoned. From pefo@enea.se Tue Oct 31 11:28:42 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA08002 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:28:40 +0100 Received: from outside.enea.se (gateway.enea.se) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA10420; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:29:09 +0100 (MET) Received: by outside.enea.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA11196 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:30:19 +0100 Received: by outside via smap (V1.3) id sma011194; Tue Oct 31 12:30:07 1995 Received: (from pefo@localhost) by gordon.enea.se (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA00740 for linux-mips@fnet.fr; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:27:43 +0100 (MET) From: Per Fogelstrom Message-Id: <199510311027.LAA00740@gordon.enea.se> Subject: Re: Linux for ARC compliant MIPS To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:27:43 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9510300848.AA00678@tatooine.France.Sun.COM> from "Gilles Gravier - ITC" at Oct 30, 95 09:48:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 349 Lines: 7 > > I imagine the Magnum 3000 (or RC3X30) would be similar too... Where can I get > my hands on NetBSD sources or Mach3.0 sources to look at how it's done? > Take a look at any of the major archive sites, for example 'ftp.funet.fi' or what's the one in france now, hmmm irisa or something. It's pretty common that they stock both NetBSD and Mach. From Stoned.Elipot@univ-evry.fr Tue Oct 31 13:45:33 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA10157 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:45:32 +0100 Received: from amiante.univ-evry.fr by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA13096; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:46:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from bandsept.univ-evry.fr (bandsept.univ-evry.fr [192.93.214.19]) by amiante.univ-evry.fr with ESMTP (8.6.12/94.01.10); id NAA03945; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:46:03 +0100 Received: from localhost.univ-evry.fr (localhost.univ-evry.fr [127.0.0.1]) by bandsept.univ-evry.fr with SMTP (8.6.12/94.01.26); id MAA10086; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:45:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199510311145.MAA10086@bandsept.univ-evry.fr> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: DEC Station stuff [was: Paul Antoine: Any luck with the e-mail?] Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:45:45 +0100 From: Stoned Elipot Content-Length: 1788 Lines: 48 Hi all, Paul Antoine need some advices from DEC people. But as he's having trouble with the list, I forward here some material (he's able to read the list, so you can reply to the list). Thanks. Cheers, Stoned. ------- Forwarded Message From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) Message-Id: <199510311225.AA09968@suite.sw.oz.au> Subject: Any luck with the e-mail? To: Stoned.Elipot Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:25:53 +1100 (EST) Organization: Softway Pty Ltd X-Face: U)Kb/c%d9`JI>Y>s'evmMaR`z*WE$<,["^2)I8o?jkx/d^=dMa$GD(s6[p|npE}r0?)qQ7H *3S2vbK66POj?=%pCn?Bp}D/3A{`-.v0=%L9emS+|Pc91$EP0-;i\ON*p;Mwp$tt3wO~g1Z W.mIz'n~$U&uIM9ix=\1=~""=W?t$3b)>`foC8+3g$m2l;^D$?i}WI(Uxc@THJ9OBbk3g6 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1178 Hi Stoned, This is just to let you know that I've managed to get my environment set up to the point where I can now build kernels! I am now trying to decide between doing some of the R3000-specific code for TLB and exception handling, and doing some boot code for the DECStation. I know Matt Messier has done some work on the booting code, as has Tividar, but as I can't discuss things in the mailing list yet, and Matt is obviously very busy, I don't quite know what I should concentrate on. [Stoned: SNIP] Warm regards, Paul _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul M. Antoine, Net: paul@sw.oz.au Softway Pty Ltd WWW: www.softway.com.au PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia Tel: +61 2 698 2322 Level 2, 79 Myrtle St, Chippendale, NSW 2008, Australia Fax: +61 2 699 9174 "It is the lack of acceptance of diversity which threatens to destroy society, NOT the free expression of it." - Me. ------- End of Forwarded Message From linux@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Tue Oct 31 16:22:22 1995 Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by guadalquivir.fnet.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA10771 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:22:21 +0100 Received: from infko.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA18295; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:20:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from flake.uni-koblenz.de (linux@flake.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.37]) by infko.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA08950 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:19:53 +0100 From: Systemkennung Linux Message-Id: <199510311519.QAA08950@infko.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by flake.uni-koblenz.de (4.1/KO-2.0) id AA02120; Tue, 31 Oct 95 16:19:16 +0100 Subject: Re: Before i hit the hard ... To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:19:12 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510310723.IAA11350@newton.soft-n-hard.de> from "Andreas Busse" at Oct 31, 95 08:23:19 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1611 Lines: 45 Hi, > > I did and maked with the same options from andy's README for 2.6.3, then > > i maked install, it copied executables to .../gcc-lib/2.7.0, but: > > > > ... > > _varargs > > _eprintf > > ./libgcc2.c:1394: stdio.h: No such file or directory > > > > I hope is no problem ?!? > > > > This *is* a problem, but it should be no problem to solve it :-) > Make sure that you've installed the latest include files from > libc-4.6.27-2, I believe and that you also setup the links > from .../include/linux and .../include/asm to the corresponding > kernel source directories. Without the includes and the kernel > sources you probably won't be able to compile anything. > Hope this helps. Just some additional words - compiling the whole cross compiler stuff from the scratch is a bit wired if there aren't older binaries of the MIPS stuff installed. Installation in that order: - Install header files in /usr/mipsel-linux/include/ - configure, compile and install binutils for mipsel-linux as target. - configure and compile gcc as usual. The compile will break when it tries to link cross-test. Ignore that. - Install the cross compiler(s), gcc generated header files and libgcc.a by hand. - compile libc-4.6.26 and install binaries: - ./configure; answer all questions. - make STATIC=true - make install.static - move all files installed by the last step *.a and *.o files into /usr/mipsel-linux/lib/. - You can new try to recompile gcc. This time no problems should occur. (Probably an paragraph for the FAQ ...) Ralf