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Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH

To: Geert Uytterhoeven <>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
From: Rob Landley <>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:25:11 -0500
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On 08/21/2013 07:07:33 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Richard Weinberger <> wrote:
> This series is an attempt to remove the SUBARCH make parameter.
> It as introduced at the times of Linux 2.5 for UML to tell the UML
> build system what the real architecture is.
> But we actually don't need SUBARCH, we can store this information
> in the .config file.

Haha, now you have OS_ARCH (shouldn't that be called HOST_ARCH?) instead,
which is available only for UM?

> The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
> These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH != SUBARCH.
> Do really need that behavior?

This does remove functionality.
It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".

  make ARCH=m68k CROSS_COMPILE=m68k-
  make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=armv5l-
  make ARCH=sparc CROSS_COMPILE=sparc-
  make ARCH=ppc CROSS_COMPILE=powerpc-
  make ARCH=sh CROSS_COMPILE=sh4-
  make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-
  make ARCH=x86 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-
  make ARCH=alpha CROSS_COMPILE=alpha-

Works the same way on all the targets I've tried so far. You specify the architecture, you specify the cross compiler prefix, you feed it a config file, you build.

(If a target supplies its own default cross compiler prefix I just have to override it with what mine's called anyway...)

Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!) cross-toolchains
are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.

The linaro toolchain is arm-linux-gnueabihf- and the one on is arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi- and the one I build is armv5l- (because the FSF's $ARCH-unknown-gnu-format-tuple-all-hail-stallman-gnu-gnu-gnu-dammit-gcc is just nuts: why would I say -linux- in a linux-to-linux toolchain? Do windows toolchains say -windows-?)

Other toolchain sources use other prefixes (-unknown- is often -$VENDORNAME-), and then of course there's llvm... which is why you specify CROSS_COMPILE= on the make command line.

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