Jesse Brandeburg <email@example.com> writes:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Eric W. Biederman
> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> David Daney <email@example.com> writes:
>>> Certainly this is one mode of operation that should be supported, but I
>>> also like to be able to go for raw throughput and have as many cores as
>>> reading from a single queue (like I currently have).
>> I believe will detect false packet drops and ask for unnecessary
>> retransmits if you have multiple cores processing a single queue,
>> because you are processing the packets out of order.
> So, the way the default linux kernel configures today's many core
> server systems is to leave the affinity mask by default at 0xffffffff,
> and most current Intel hardware based on 5000 (older core cpus), or
> 5500 chipset (used with Core i7 processors) that I have seen will
> allow for round robin interrupts by default. This kind of sucks for
> the above unless you run irqbalance or set smp_affinity by hand.
On x86 if you have > 8 cores the hardware does not support any form of
irq balancing. You do have an interesting point.
How often and how much does irq balancing hurt us.
> Yes, I know Arjan and others will say you should always run
> irqbalance, but some people don't and some distros don't ship it
> enabled by default (or their version doesn't work for one reason or
irqbalance is actually more likely to move irqs than the hardware.
I have heard promises it won't move network irqs but I have seen
the opposite behavior.
> The question is should the kernel work better by default
> *without* irqbalance loaded, or does it not matter?
Good question. I would aim for the kernel to work better by default.
Ideally we should have a coupling between which sockets applications have
open, which cpus those applications run on, and which core the irqs arrive
> I don't believe we should re-enable the kernel irq balancer, but
> should we consider only setting a single bit in each new interrupt's
> irq affinity? Doing it with a random spread for the initial affinity
> would be better than setting them all to one.
Not a bad idea. The practical problem is that we usually have the irqs
setup before we have the additional cpus. But that isn't entirely true,
I'm thinking of mostly pre-acpi rules. With ACPI we do some kind of
on-demand setup of the gsi in the device initialization.
How irq threads interact also ways in here.