| To: | "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: [patch] linux 2.4.17: The second mb() rework (final) |
| From: | Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com> |
| Date: | Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:50:06 +0100 |
| Cc: | Atsushi Nemoto <nemoto@toshiba-tops.co.jp>, macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl, mdharm@momenco.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@oss.sgi.com |
| In-reply-to: | <006e01c1b606$27b1b060$0deca8c0@Ulysses>; from kevink@mips.com on Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:30:45AM +0100 |
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:30:45AM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > That is, I would say, a bug in the TX39 implementation of SYNC. > The specification is states that all stores prior to the SYNC must > complete before any memory ops after the sync, and that the > definition of a store completing is that all stored values be > "visible to every other processor in the system", which pretty > clearly implies that the write buffers must be flushed. In practice sync just isn't good enough. Most systems these days use an I/O bus like PCI which uses posted writes or have some other non-strongly ordered memory model. Which is why something wmb() or mb() aren't good enough in driver. I'm just having a nice discussion about this topic with SGI's IA64 people; we have to come up with a portable and efficient ABI. Ralf |
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